WM 6.1 vs WM 6.5 ...What are the advantages and disadvantages of both these OS? - General Questions and Answers

As the title says...
Which one do you prefer? Why?
Cheers...

6.1 because is more stable, uses less resources, does not include the SUPER HORRIBLE honeycomb.
Maybe later when 6.5 is more mature....
Or better wait to WM7
Just my 2 cents

I like WM 6.5 because it's the latest & greatest so far from MS. I'll move up to WM 7 when available. I do not like flashing backwards (downgrading)!

I've tried couple of 6.5 ROMs on my BA and Kaiser. I'm not too impressed. One 6.5 ROM was quite quick. However, after using it for a week, I still prefer WM6.1 with the HTC Home today screen.
The windows 6.5 widgets look great. I feel that windows is trying to copy the finger scrolling found on the I-Phone. The fact is, the I-Phone is not nearly as fast to find contact with etc. I can find things a lot faster using HTC Home with WM6.1. I don't even like WM6.1 with Touch Flo or whatever it's called.
I'd like to hear other user comments.

orb3000 said:
6.1 because is more stable, uses less resources, does not include the SUPER HORRIBLE honeycomb.
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Did you mean the new Programs interface?
I saw some videos, and I don't like it so much... Any chance to replace it with anything else?

Been using WM 6.5 (miri's WM6.5 rom) for my Touch HD for a couple of months now. The latest builds are really fast and stable and I will never go back to WM6.1.

What about program compatibily?
In WM 6.1 (latest versions) there are some problem running TCPMP or other (old) apps....
Is it the same on WM 6.5?
And... Is it possible to have something similar to "M2D Messages Tab" to see our SMSes directly on our Today?

I used versions 11 and 13 of 6.5 but didn't work on my opal, freqvent crashes and slow. Then I installed version 14 of 6.1, so far it is working well.

flaviopac said:
Is it possible to have something similar to "M2D Messages Tab" to see our SMSes directly on our Today?
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Anyone?

WM 6.5 is DEFINETELY better, there are lots of improvements and still some to come. I recently wrote a few emails with Loke Uei and I also participated in a discussion with the WinMo team on Facebook.
The new startmenu is maybe not everyones taste, but the new todayscreen is well done (espeically when doing some modding with the help of Xda-Devs ^^), MyPhone, Marketplace will be great and the overall fingerfriendlyness and speed has improved.
@orb3000: What you´re talking about ?!?!? The current version of 6.5 isn´t even an official one yet...so you can´t really compare. And on my TouchPro it is quite fast, responsive and bug-free. You better get a new device...

flaviopac said:
Did you mean the new Programs interface?
I saw some videos, and I don't like it so much... Any chance to replace it with anything else?
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Yes.
I think it can be replaced
m.schmidler said:
WM 6.5 is DEFINETELY better, there are lots of improvements and still some to come. I recently wrote a few emails with Loke Uei and I also participated in a discussion with the WinMo team on Facebook.
The new startmenu is maybe not everyones taste, but the new todayscreen is well done (espeically when doing some modding with the help of Xda-Devs ^^), MyPhone, Marketplace will be great and the overall fingerfriendlyness and speed has improved.
@orb3000: What you´re talking about ?!?!? The current version of 6.5 isn´t even an official one yet...so you can´t really compare. And on my TouchPro it is quite fast, responsive and bug-free. You better get a new device...
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What¿
As said is just my opinion, I know it´s not official yet, but anyway honeycomb for me is horrible, so I won´t use it till final is out and a nice customization appears, I comprare it because is the question on this thread.
Get a new device? I´m on it believe me, but til now not convinced 100% about where to go... I think I´ll wait for 2010 HTC models with snapdragon and for that time hopefuly some better 6.5 will be out there, or even wm7
My Universal is much better than your Touch Pro!

m.schmidler said:
The new startmenu is maybe not everyones taste, but the new todayscreen is well done (espeically when doing some modding with the help of Xda-Devs ^^), MyPhone, Marketplace will be great and the overall fingerfriendlyness and speed has improved.
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I found a way to replace Start Menu with iLaunch or MortButton...
A lot better!
Anyway.. Does anyone here know if I can use a tab similar to M2D MEssages Tab?
Cheers...

6.5 is fine by now... xda-devs have stabled it in many ROMS and with the addition of many many mods it looks amazing and has great functionality. The thing is, that you need to differentiate WM6.5 from the Titanium interface.. Titanium is wonderful. WM6.5 is somewhere only a small small upgrade of by microsoft to 6.1. some menu changes.. some bar changes... things are mostly graphical and still do not match to the new behavior of rhodium manila and its additions (such as the start menu and pop up menus)

nir36 said:
The thing is, that you need to differentiate WM6.5 from the Titanium interface..
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yes, for sure...
The only thing I don't like on WM 6.5 is the Start Menu...
But I found out a way to change it with iLaunch...
Do you know any other program similar to iLaunch (free and maybe better!)?

Wm6.1 is better
WM6.5 is not a significant update. i feel only the looks and graphics has been updated no new revolutionary feature.
WM6.1 with touchflo2d/3d is fine...

flaviopac said:
yes, for sure...
The only thing I don't like on WM 6.5 is the Start Menu...
But I found out a way to change it with iLaunch...
Do you know any other program similar to iLaunch (free and maybe better!)?
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Maybe this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=471861 can help you?

flaviopac said:
Anyone?
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Yes! sbp diary.

flaviopac said:
Is it possible to have something similar to "M2D Messages Tab" to see our SMSes directly on our Today?
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mirchichamu said:
Yes! sbp diary.
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I guess I can't have anything similar in Tytanium WM 6.5 home screen, right?

flaviopac said:
I guess I can't have anything similar in Tytanium WM 6.5 home screen, right?
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I don't think so. You have to go to e,g sbp pocket plus and the install sbp diary to see your sms on todays screen.

there are many many Titanium mods under development right now.. in the dev&hack section.. go check them out and see if it is either existant or possible to create such a thing.

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WM6.1 nothing great.....a big disappointment :(

Just gave wm6.1 a spin.....and what can i say
PROS:
- threaded sms
- easier exchange server configuring (auto configures)
- quicker, and seems stable as of now
- solves the password screen locking the start menu bar bug
CONS:
- nothing new or different on the today screen
- nothing visually different
- same old applications, same old interface, same old same old
- its just the same old wm6 people, so, if you by chance felt like your life was coming to an end and you were waiting for wm6.1 to make it on your unis and once again get your juices flowing.....forget it.
- a2dp support seems like its missing!
- "Use High resolution" in internet explorer no longer there
- its highly frustrating to see MS drop in the "Task manager" application from their smartphone OS and market it as an "improvement".....grrr
- a sad "Getting Started" today plugin.....please, someone give me a break!
Anyway, life goes on, the same old sorry way......photon? android? hmph....
San
dreamtheater39 said:
Just gave wm6.1 a spin.....and what can i say
PROS:
- threaded sms
- easier exchange server configuring (auto configures)
- quicker, and seems stable as of now
- solves the password screen locking the start menu bar bug
CONS:
- nothing new or different on the today screen
- nothing visually different
- same old applications, same old interface, same old same old
- its just the same old wm6 people, so, if you by chance felt like your life was coming to an end and you were waiting for wm6.1 to make it on your unis and once again get your juices flowing.....forget it.
- a2dp support seems like its missing!
- "Use High resolution" in internet explorer no longer there
- its highly frustrating to see MS drop in the "Task manager" application from their smartphone OS and market it as an "improvement".....grrr
- a sad "Getting Started" today plugin.....please, someone give me a break!
Anyway, life goes on, the same old sorry way......photon? android? hmph....
San
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tbh what did you expect?
This of the change as akin to winxp vanilla and sp1 not winxp and vista.
no kidding.. even with less things.
i can confirm a2dp isnt working eother and internet explorer high resolution isnt even there ..
the wm5 latest tmobile rom has these!!
i give them one thing though, it is snappy and seems stable so far.
seems they increased the card cache size since when you start a song in media player it starts skipping and stuttering.. well that can always be fixed later.
Hmmmm, are we talking here about the real WM6.1 or the PDAViet build ported to Universal?
The cons/limitations are probably porting problems, at the moment the few who can confirm these are midget_1990 & mamaich. Besides, WM6.1 is not probably meant to be a version upgrade but a release update (i.e. SP2 in XP). I don't know too!
Where can I fing WM6.1?
6.1 is just an update not upgrade.
What I can say is this is a build ported from a QVGA device to a VGA device.
Now pls wait for our gurus to release a complete built.
I can run a2dp perfectly, it is just a matter of porting only.
We see here now lot's of build coming..just b patient for the same
Midget_1990 said:
tbh what did you expect?
This of the change as akin to winxp vanilla and sp1 not winxp and vista.
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Well, as MS screwed up on Photon release which was to be somewhere during 2008....and because google gave them a freak-surprise with Android....MS suddenly commited for a WM6.1 release.
I thought WM6.1 will be atleast a few features intended to go into Photon to keep Windows Mobile alive against upcoming competition (Android based phones scheduled to hit somewhere in Q3).
But turns out that Wm6.1 is just the same stuff....like you said, an sp1 release!
The least i expected was a changed today screen with a new interface which i kept reading about on so many forums....turns out people mistook this from the smartphone version they saw....
Anyways, cheers guys, trying to be happy with what we've got!!
Cant wait for the **actual** roms to start coming out from all our rom gurus out here....
Cheers!
San
The rom circulating over the forum these hours is a fake.
fake or not?
Midget_1990 said:
tbh what did you expect?
This of the change as akin to winxp vanilla and sp1 not winxp and vista.
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There is some people said this version is a fake what do you think Midget_1990 i know we can trust in you.
ranju and Mo3ulla verified that this rom is fake
I havent seen/used the one you speak of, i can assure you thought that i do ahve a copy of legit 6.1 made for vga and not ported.
waiting after you
hello Midget_1990
i wait a Midget_1990 ROM for the 6.1 it s more sure.
said us when you can make one ROM Mister Midget_1990 the first ROM with vga for the universal remeber me a good Remembrance.
sorry for my bad english
a little frenchi
Win_XP said:
ranju and Mo3ulla verified that this rom is fake
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Hi Win_XP, my take on the fake issue HERE!
Hopefully Midget will fix the situation with disconnecting SD cards.... I'm not the one who had this problem when usual SD card 2gb is disconnected on no reasons and you have to slide out/in to get it worked...
catch-22 said:
Hi Win_XP, my take on the fake issue HERE!
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This ROM is the fastest and the only one that doesn't have problems in its functions, never freeze and the most reliable one. I'm using it with old 1.09 RADIO ROM and battery is the same like having WM5.
You can try to argue everything, but this is really example of complete ROM.
Thanks PDAVIET.
rilazi said:
This ROM is the fastest and the only one that doesn't have problems in its functions, never freeze and the most reliable one. I'm using it with old 1.09 RADIO ROM and battery is the same like having WM5.
You can try to argue everything, but this is really example of complete ROM.
Thanks PDAVIET.
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Have you read the link I've given? Did I say what you think I said? Can you read?
I was the one telling you guys that it's not fair to say that it is fake! Read first before you judge!

wm 6.1

Which WM 6.1 rom does have the best perfomance and runs without errors ?
Pls give your opinions....
Thanks
myrin
peter7 said:
Which WM 6.1 rom does have the best perfomance and runs without errors ?
Pls give your opinions....
Thanks
myrin
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I guess searching would be out of the question. Do know how many times this has been asked? Come on now. With 124 post I would think you would know that or at least do a search first.
...you are generally right but the search doesn`t brings up a real result !
A performance comparison (benchmark) for WM 6 has given a lot of evidence but on 6.1 I didn`t find it ...
What works best for you ?
Since you donate to the forum, I guess people will be nicer to you. There is really no clear answer to this since the cleaner roms have better speeds, but less functionality. The ones bulky with a lot of apps tend to be slower, but they become like swiss army knives. There are lots of extra tweaks you can do such as change page pool or change cache sizes to improve performance. With less errors? All the roms have few incompatabilities with certain softwares such as TCPMP, IM+, and many others. There are trade offs from using certain roms and its all in your preference in what you want (buggy rom with speed or lots of apps, but slow). Dutty's has been clear favorite, but many cooks out there make roms just as good.
thomassster - I`m very happy with Quentin`s but it is "only" a WM 6.0 - would you say it is worth the effort to change to a WM 6.1 ?
peter
hello peter the only big differences that i found are the thredded sms and some minor changes regarding wifi managing found in settings - connections (faster turning on and off...) regarding speed, i find wm 6.0 slight faster. so, my opinion is you could give wm 6.1 a go.
So although WM 6 ist faster you prefer 6.1 ???
peter7 said:
So although WM 6 ist faster you prefer 6.1 ???
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yes, i find it more functional. try dutty's wm6.1s they simply rock! you won't be dissapointed
If you read some of the WM6.1 threads, the only addition is newer radios, threaded SMS, and very minor options added. I won't be able to say if it's worth upgrading since threaded SMS is a big improvement, but I can't seem to find a way to backup my SMS the way I want. Instead of chat style, PIM backup restores the sent, and then mine.
There's not too many improvements, but it wouldn't be bad experimenting. I can't determine whether flashing will be best for you, but sometimes you gotta do things to find out whats all the fuss about. Most of the cooks are cooking up the newest roms, which happens to be WM6.1 so you might as well get use to what is in a WM6.1 rom.
OK understand...which progs do not run with Dutty`s ?
thomassster said:
If you read some of the WM6.1 threads, the only addition is newer radios, threaded SMS, and very minor options added. I won't be able to say if it's worth upgrading since threaded SMS is a big improvement, but I can't seem to find a way to backup my SMS the way I want. Instead of chat style, PIM backup restores the sent, and then mine.
There's not too many improvements, but it wouldn't be bad experimenting. I can't determine whether flashing will be best for you, but sometimes you gotta do things to find out whats all the fuss about.
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yup, but the threaded sms can be disabled via registry anyway, i have the same problem when backuping my sms.
like all wm 6.1's i have sometimes problems when trying to run igo or miomap. but with the homeplugin partially disabled ( all tabs except the clock) and a proper radio it works fine! i haven't tried yet skype to see if it works. but other programs work great. i have installed on my kaiser resco explorer, ab button plus, coreplayer.. etc and all work fine..
peter7 said:
OK understand...which progs do not run with Dutty`s ?
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That specific question really belongs in the Rom thread.
This thread has no further usefulness so it is closed.

Is there any windows mobile 6.5 for herald yet ...???

Too soon, maybe in a couple month, I guess!
Microsoft already asked the main cook to remove the WM6.5 image. The ROM is still floating around minus all the cool 6.5 gui which makes it just a useless buggy build. So: patience, my young grasshopper, patience.
ivanmmj said:
Microsoft already asked the main cook to remove the WM6.5 image. The ROM is still floating around minus all the cool 6.5 gui which makes it just a useless buggy build. So: patience, my young grasshopper, patience.
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Okay thanks. I was getting a bit worried and starting to think that the Wing gets no love. Everyone's busy building stuff for the Kaiser HD Diamond etc but nothing for the Wing..
undying1983 said:
Too soon, maybe in a couple month, I guess!
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thanks all .....i will wait ....and i hope it will be so soon ,,,
Here is a video of the new wm6.5
http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=US&...ideo-feature-tour-hits-youtube/&v=RAq5lFQFyMI
It's a beta yet, but it shows a lot of of improvements hoping for a better performance.
I hope we will see it really soon on our herald!
I don't know... but after watching that video wm6.5 don't seem to impress at all, except the start menu that is laid-out differently.
Well we can say something about PIE but there are many better options out there. Also the scrolling is easily achieved by TouchFlo (which is default in all the roms posted here), and the large menu buttons can be achieved simply by using a larger font (through advance configurator).
Where is the novelty? Same old apps, and the screen that shows the list of documents when opening the pocket word program still reveals the fundamental finger-unfriendly side of wm6.x.
Wm7 then it's be more attractive IMHO. Just my 2 cents.
wearefree said:
I don't know... but after watching that video wm6.5 don't seem to impress at all, except the start menu that is laid-out differently.
Well we can say something about PIE but there are many better options out there. Also the scrolling is easily achieved by TouchFlo (which is default in all the roms posted here), and the large menu buttons can be achieved simply by using a larger font (through advance configurator).
Where is the novelty? Same old apps, and the screen that shows the list of documents when opening the pocket word program still reveals the fundamental finger-unfriendly side of wm6.x.
Wm7 then it's be more attractive IMHO. Just my 2 cents.
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I agree but if it performs better like WM6.1 did for me I will happily upgrade. But the main thing I am looking forward to is the Today Plugin. I sure hope someone puts it out there in cab form. But right now most of the roms here are fast and put together so well our expectations will be high for any official release from M$.
hey ivanmmj !!! i am a great fan of your roms... i just wana ask dat is there any way through which i can expand my ram and rom through hard-spl.... my herald doesnot support flashing through storage card....
hemans said:
hey ivanmmj !!! i am a great fan of your roms... i just wana ask dat is there any way through which i can expand my ram and rom through hard-spl.... my herald doesnot support flashing through storage card....
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cmonex is currently working on making us a new HardSPL that allows flashing of my ROMs and other lite ROMs.
http://m.pcw.com.cn/thread-5029632-1-1.html
here is 6.5 chinese build
xufeng said:
http://m.pcw.com.cn/thread-5029632-1-1.html
here is 6.5 chinese build
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You sure this is for the Wing/Herald? Does it have English language support? Can you post some screenshots?

The Windows Mobile 6.5 leaks keep coming

Just found this and want it to share it here:
http://www.wmexperts.com/windows-mobile-65-leaks-keep-coming
Nice pictures
P.D. Look at the phone icon!!
Mods, if this was already published please delete thread
Good day to all,
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Just found this and want it to share it here:
http://www.wmexperts.com/windows-mobile-65-leaks-keep-coming
Nice pictures
P.D. Look at the phone icon!!
Mods, if this was already published please delete thread
Good day to all,
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thanks for sharing this
wow windows 6.5 is improving honey comb is cool now
Check out Uto's ROM for Kaiser. He got lot similar work done on Kaiser. Lets see how it comes in the end.
soon we will be looking for windows 7 screen shots
Meh, I think those honeycomb items are incredibly ugly! Can't really see an improvement, at least not over TF3D. The only thing I want is that all menu's / settings are thumb-friendly.
Thanks for sharing
i like the honeycomb i think you just have to get used to it
wm 2003 and 2003se and wn5 and wm6 and 6.1 where all based around the same so will windows 7 have the honeycomb

H3r2 Alpha 1 WWE [21042.1.6.1]

Hi.
H3r2 Alpha 1.
WM6.1 [build 21042.1.6.1]
Please test & report ANY bug!
This is very very alpha release, useless, only for TEST.
http://www.4shared.com/dir/19508987/1551c8a4/H3r2_WWE.html
Pass: Ham3r
I don't recommend for beginners, iPhone and Nokia users.
Thank you ! This Rom very fast ! Good Look !
Review: Another excellent Ham3r ROM
This is a very nice ROM. Windows Mobile 6.1. It has no home screen programs, and very few apps. It has the Microsoft Office apps, Quickmenu, and an unusual collection of tools. Lots of free space, lots of RAM, good speed.
Questions I did not answer are:
What kind of files will AlReader read?
What is "Glossy Black Bars"?
Does WM5NewMenu offer any features not found in QuickMenu?
I noticed TCPMP but did not try it. Are all of the CODECs present?
The only problem I have is that Outlook won't sync to my work's Exchange server. However, they have been messing with the security settings there this week, so that might not be a ROM issue.
I have tried this ROM with Manila 2D (V1 and V2), SPB Mobile Shell 3, and HTC Home. All perform well, although Manila2D V2 needed some more apps, as usual.
One program had Polish (not English) help files.. I wish I could remember which.
The ROM does not have any touch-friendly scrolling. Of course it does not have the WM6.5 touch features, and it also lacks the TouchFlo touch features which work well on the "Final Angel" ROM.
I will not continue to use this ROM: I like the "Neat" flavor of Final Angel best of all ROMs I have tried. Nevertheless, I would encourage the cook to put out more Wizard ROMs. This one and the recent Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM are both very good, even though labeled as ALPHA. I can't wait to see what he would call a release version.
Thanks for reply.
Sorry for my english..
n2rjt said:
What kind of files will AlReader read?
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html, txt, rtf, fb2 and pdb/prc(i dont know whats this...)
n2rjt said:
What is "Glossy Black Bars"?
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Is it a small NETCF app for change basehue color to black for taskbar and softkey bar.
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Does WM5NewMenu offer any features not found in QuickMenu?
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WM5NewMenu is a configurable laucher..you can set it to eg. left softey
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I noticed TCPMP but did not try it. Are all of the CODECs present?
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I dont know..FLV and DIVIX works good..This version of TCPMP is with subtitle support. TXT, without conversion!
n2rjt said:
The only problem I have is that Outlook won't sync to my work's Exchange server. However, they have been messing with the security settings there this week, so that might not be a ROM issue.
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Sorry, i dont can test this.
n2rjt said:
One program had Polish (not English) help files.. I wish I could remember which.
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What a app?
n2rjt said:
The ROM does not have any touch-friendly scrolling. Of course it does not have the WM6.5 touch features, and it also lacks the TouchFlo touch features which work well on the "Final Angel" ROM.
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ROM constains M$ scrolling feature, but this is disabled by me. For turn ON this, run total commander, tap 2x on adress bar and select "gestures". Change "disabled" value to 0 & after few seconds make soft reset.
n2rjt said:
I will not continue to use this ROM: I like the "Neat" flavor of Final Angel best of all ROMs I have tried. Nevertheless, I would encourage the cook to put out more Wizard ROMs. This one and the recent Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM are both very good, even though labeled as ALPHA. I can't wait to see what he would call a release version.
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Thanks.. i working with BASE ROM for wizard.. but my wizard have a dead battery (on wifi, turns off after 2 minutes). and i dont have time for rommaking...ehh.
Thank you, turning on gestures worked.
I cannot find the program that had the Polish. Maybe it was an error message.
Thank you again, I would recommend this ROM for those who want a fast WM6.1 ROM.
pdb are ebooks
I have not been able to get this ROM to synchronize with an Exchange Server. The Ham3r WM6.5 ROM works, but this one does not.
For me, Exchange is very important.
If it is not important to you, this is still a very good ROM.
Good job Hamer
"Poland Power"
A nice ROM, I like very much the ROMs with huge free RAM. I remember for Nothin's ROMs, I used them for a long time.
I tried this ROM, it is fast, stable. My only problem was, that the Large_Start_Menu.cab does not run it, or at least for me did not run.
Could you check that?
Thanks you for your hard work.

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