Related
http://www.htcclub.net/en/shownews.php?ID=294
Nice show
hope this stuff will be available to kaiser...
pserbanp said:
http://www.htcclub.net/en/shownews.php?ID=294
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Hope so indeed - looks stunning!!!!!
jcespi2005 said:
Nice show
hope this stuff will be available to kaiser...
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For shure will be like WM6 was for all WM5 PDAPhones (TyTn,3600...etc)
to bad thats a smartphone OS shown there and not a ppc OS
WM7...
...will have nearly same features that iPhone showed last year...
To me looks to be the next zune device, as you can see one of the screenshots where the mp3 is playing. A copy cat of IPHONE definately but nicer feel of the OS we currently use on the kaiser.
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to bad thats a smartphone OS shown there and not a ppc OS
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Windows Mobile 7 will dramatically change the way we use mobile devices. It will emphasize the use of touch on the device, as well as motion gestures created by using the device. It is, absolutely, Microsoft’s effort to beat back the iPhone, and the iPhone is referenced several times in the document.
Windows Mobile 7 will use touch gestures, similar to how the iPhone does. You will be able to flick through lists, pan, swipe sideway, draw on the screen. A lot of emphasis has been put on making navigation easier and doing away with scrollbars, including a new scroll handle that allows for multiple ways of finding items extremely fast.
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Also, row 1 column 2 shows a SIP keyboard. I think this is the PPC version.
Well it certainly looks like more then just a skin face lift, looks pretty darn cool. I hope we can use it on our recently new devices, but when they say that gestures will be controlled by a camera looking up through the screen, i dont know if that applies to device hardware we have now?
Id on' really know how the biotouch stuff works right now
edit: ohh they must mean the actual camera on the back/front f your device that would do that sort of recognition I guess. I just remember seeing this youtube video of a microsoft screen witht hat "shock" technology where the guy said the screen had a a camera under it so it was able to follow all your gestures etc.. perhaps nto the same tech we are talkigna bout here I suppose.
It sure looks interesting. One thing though:
It will feature graphical transitions, subtle effects, and other things to make it more interesting to look at.
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My fears are that - as with Vista - it's a lot of window dressing with limited (added) functionality. And for all that window dressing, we need more power. More power means more battery power. Maybe I'm alone in this, but I'd rather have a dull looking tool than a great looking gadget.
At this moment, the Psion 5MX that I used to own, beats a WM6 device on functionality. Hands down.
Mike Philippens said:
My fears are that - as with Vista - it's a lot of window dressing with limited (added) functionality.
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I just have to say, if you read the tech docs, Vista added a LOT under the hood - it's not just an XP "skin." Truth is, I even see a lot of added functionality in plain view as well.
Club3d said:
To me looks to be the next zune device, as you can see one of the screenshots where the mp3 is playing. A copy cat of IPHONE definately but nicer feel of the OS we currently use on the kaiser.
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This really doesn't mean anything... just because it looks like a Zune doesn't mean it IS a Zune. As I posted in this thread a month ago (to VERY little fanfare ), MS has an entire department dedicated to giving WM the functionality of a Zune. It's called the "Pink and Purple Project."
The only thing that scares me is that they'll make it SO much like the Zune that I'll lose my Media Player functionality - I remember reading that Zunes have proprietary software and don't use WMP - they're not even "PlaysForSure!" Not sure if that's accurate.
However, can't Media Center convert saved shows to a low quality and sync up with a Zune automatically over WiFi? How sweet would that be for my Tilt!
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I thought the pictures show touch screen and Smartphone doesn't have touch screen does it? anyway, someone will make that keyboard available sooner than WM7 for sure
How can you work the gestures without a touchscreen? So it's for PPC.
Thanx for sharing the info
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to bad thats a smartphone OS shown there and not a ppc OS
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If you've read anything about Windows Mobile 7 you would know that Microsoft will not have different SKUs for SmartPhone or PocketPCs this time around.
It will be one size fits all. (Probably still in a few different flavors so OEMs can chose one with Office and one without etc, but the general functionality, look and core will be the same)
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How can you work the gestures without a touchscreen? So it's for PPC. Thanx for sharing the info
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Maybe I'm an idiot, but I think think this Smartphone vs. PPC argument is moot.
You see, the gestures and touch features (such as dual touch) described in that document can't be done with Smartphones OR PPCs yet. They require the new touch system that the iPhone has (using electricity from your body vs. pressure on the screen), and thus these features (and maybe WM7 entirely) will depend on an entirely new generation of devices.
As such, if WM7 is truly such a huge leap, I doubt we'll see the entire thing released for the Tilt - I'm sure some chefs will extract and add features to WM6, but looks like the Tilt and ANY WM6 devices at this point won't be able to handle that stuff.
(That's not even my $0.02 worth, because there's a distinct possibility that I have no idea what I'm talking about...)
I found this, SEXY
http://microsoft.blognewschannel.com/archives/2008/01/06/exclusive-windows-mobile-7-to-focus-on-touch-and-motion-gestures/
Citrap
Seeing as the kaiser has no accelerometer, that feature is useless...
And for all you noobs who are going to say GPS!!!, that is no where in hell as accurate as i needs to be to detect in/out in 2 or 3 inches (pulg.)
gabriel31337 said:
...will have nearly same features that iPhone showed last year...
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Friday I have the iphone..!! But I will always have my tytn 2 (however HTC scrude us with the drivers) I just dont know how to unlock it yet.
this is old news!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=357183
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=333211
and there are many more!
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I just have to say, if you read the tech docs, Vista added a LOT under the hood - it's not just an XP "skin." Truth is, I even see a lot of added functionality in plain view as well.
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Sure, but most of it is eye-candy and stuff that I don't care about. I want functionality, stuff I can use.
Just gave wm6.1 a spin.....and what can i say
PROS:
- threaded sms
- easier exchange server configuring (auto configures)
- quicker, and seems stable as of now
- solves the password screen locking the start menu bar bug
CONS:
- nothing new or different on the today screen
- nothing visually different
- same old applications, same old interface, same old same old
- its just the same old wm6 people, so, if you by chance felt like your life was coming to an end and you were waiting for wm6.1 to make it on your unis and once again get your juices flowing.....forget it.
- a2dp support seems like its missing!
- "Use High resolution" in internet explorer no longer there
- its highly frustrating to see MS drop in the "Task manager" application from their smartphone OS and market it as an "improvement".....grrr
- a sad "Getting Started" today plugin.....please, someone give me a break!
Anyway, life goes on, the same old sorry way......photon? android? hmph....
San
dreamtheater39 said:
Just gave wm6.1 a spin.....and what can i say
PROS:
- threaded sms
- easier exchange server configuring (auto configures)
- quicker, and seems stable as of now
- solves the password screen locking the start menu bar bug
CONS:
- nothing new or different on the today screen
- nothing visually different
- same old applications, same old interface, same old same old
- its just the same old wm6 people, so, if you by chance felt like your life was coming to an end and you were waiting for wm6.1 to make it on your unis and once again get your juices flowing.....forget it.
- a2dp support seems like its missing!
- "Use High resolution" in internet explorer no longer there
- its highly frustrating to see MS drop in the "Task manager" application from their smartphone OS and market it as an "improvement".....grrr
- a sad "Getting Started" today plugin.....please, someone give me a break!
Anyway, life goes on, the same old sorry way......photon? android? hmph....
San
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tbh what did you expect?
This of the change as akin to winxp vanilla and sp1 not winxp and vista.
no kidding.. even with less things.
i can confirm a2dp isnt working eother and internet explorer high resolution isnt even there ..
the wm5 latest tmobile rom has these!!
i give them one thing though, it is snappy and seems stable so far.
seems they increased the card cache size since when you start a song in media player it starts skipping and stuttering.. well that can always be fixed later.
Hmmmm, are we talking here about the real WM6.1 or the PDAViet build ported to Universal?
The cons/limitations are probably porting problems, at the moment the few who can confirm these are midget_1990 & mamaich. Besides, WM6.1 is not probably meant to be a version upgrade but a release update (i.e. SP2 in XP). I don't know too!
Where can I fing WM6.1?
6.1 is just an update not upgrade.
What I can say is this is a build ported from a QVGA device to a VGA device.
Now pls wait for our gurus to release a complete built.
I can run a2dp perfectly, it is just a matter of porting only.
We see here now lot's of build coming..just b patient for the same
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tbh what did you expect?
This of the change as akin to winxp vanilla and sp1 not winxp and vista.
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Well, as MS screwed up on Photon release which was to be somewhere during 2008....and because google gave them a freak-surprise with Android....MS suddenly commited for a WM6.1 release.
I thought WM6.1 will be atleast a few features intended to go into Photon to keep Windows Mobile alive against upcoming competition (Android based phones scheduled to hit somewhere in Q3).
But turns out that Wm6.1 is just the same stuff....like you said, an sp1 release!
The least i expected was a changed today screen with a new interface which i kept reading about on so many forums....turns out people mistook this from the smartphone version they saw....
Anyways, cheers guys, trying to be happy with what we've got!!
Cant wait for the **actual** roms to start coming out from all our rom gurus out here....
Cheers!
San
The rom circulating over the forum these hours is a fake.
fake or not?
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tbh what did you expect?
This of the change as akin to winxp vanilla and sp1 not winxp and vista.
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There is some people said this version is a fake what do you think Midget_1990 i know we can trust in you.
ranju and Mo3ulla verified that this rom is fake
I havent seen/used the one you speak of, i can assure you thought that i do ahve a copy of legit 6.1 made for vga and not ported.
waiting after you
hello Midget_1990
i wait a Midget_1990 ROM for the 6.1 it s more sure.
said us when you can make one ROM Mister Midget_1990 the first ROM with vga for the universal remeber me a good Remembrance.
sorry for my bad english
a little frenchi
Win_XP said:
ranju and Mo3ulla verified that this rom is fake
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Hi Win_XP, my take on the fake issue HERE!
Hopefully Midget will fix the situation with disconnecting SD cards.... I'm not the one who had this problem when usual SD card 2gb is disconnected on no reasons and you have to slide out/in to get it worked...
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Hi Win_XP, my take on the fake issue HERE!
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This ROM is the fastest and the only one that doesn't have problems in its functions, never freeze and the most reliable one. I'm using it with old 1.09 RADIO ROM and battery is the same like having WM5.
You can try to argue everything, but this is really example of complete ROM.
Thanks PDAVIET.
rilazi said:
This ROM is the fastest and the only one that doesn't have problems in its functions, never freeze and the most reliable one. I'm using it with old 1.09 RADIO ROM and battery is the same like having WM5.
You can try to argue everything, but this is really example of complete ROM.
Thanks PDAVIET.
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Have you read the link I've given? Did I say what you think I said? Can you read?
I was the one telling you guys that it's not fair to say that it is fake! Read first before you judge!
As the title says...
Which one do you prefer? Why?
Cheers...
6.1 because is more stable, uses less resources, does not include the SUPER HORRIBLE honeycomb.
Maybe later when 6.5 is more mature....
Or better wait to WM7
Just my 2 cents
I like WM 6.5 because it's the latest & greatest so far from MS. I'll move up to WM 7 when available. I do not like flashing backwards (downgrading)!
I've tried couple of 6.5 ROMs on my BA and Kaiser. I'm not too impressed. One 6.5 ROM was quite quick. However, after using it for a week, I still prefer WM6.1 with the HTC Home today screen.
The windows 6.5 widgets look great. I feel that windows is trying to copy the finger scrolling found on the I-Phone. The fact is, the I-Phone is not nearly as fast to find contact with etc. I can find things a lot faster using HTC Home with WM6.1. I don't even like WM6.1 with Touch Flo or whatever it's called.
I'd like to hear other user comments.
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6.1 because is more stable, uses less resources, does not include the SUPER HORRIBLE honeycomb.
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Did you mean the new Programs interface?
I saw some videos, and I don't like it so much... Any chance to replace it with anything else?
Been using WM 6.5 (miri's WM6.5 rom) for my Touch HD for a couple of months now. The latest builds are really fast and stable and I will never go back to WM6.1.
What about program compatibily?
In WM 6.1 (latest versions) there are some problem running TCPMP or other (old) apps....
Is it the same on WM 6.5?
And... Is it possible to have something similar to "M2D Messages Tab" to see our SMSes directly on our Today?
I used versions 11 and 13 of 6.5 but didn't work on my opal, freqvent crashes and slow. Then I installed version 14 of 6.1, so far it is working well.
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Is it possible to have something similar to "M2D Messages Tab" to see our SMSes directly on our Today?
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Anyone?
WM 6.5 is DEFINETELY better, there are lots of improvements and still some to come. I recently wrote a few emails with Loke Uei and I also participated in a discussion with the WinMo team on Facebook.
The new startmenu is maybe not everyones taste, but the new todayscreen is well done (espeically when doing some modding with the help of Xda-Devs ^^), MyPhone, Marketplace will be great and the overall fingerfriendlyness and speed has improved.
@orb3000: What you´re talking about ?!?!? The current version of 6.5 isn´t even an official one yet...so you can´t really compare. And on my TouchPro it is quite fast, responsive and bug-free. You better get a new device...
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Did you mean the new Programs interface?
I saw some videos, and I don't like it so much... Any chance to replace it with anything else?
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Yes.
I think it can be replaced
m.schmidler said:
WM 6.5 is DEFINETELY better, there are lots of improvements and still some to come. I recently wrote a few emails with Loke Uei and I also participated in a discussion with the WinMo team on Facebook.
The new startmenu is maybe not everyones taste, but the new todayscreen is well done (espeically when doing some modding with the help of Xda-Devs ^^), MyPhone, Marketplace will be great and the overall fingerfriendlyness and speed has improved.
@orb3000: What you´re talking about ?!?!? The current version of 6.5 isn´t even an official one yet...so you can´t really compare. And on my TouchPro it is quite fast, responsive and bug-free. You better get a new device...
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What¿
As said is just my opinion, I know it´s not official yet, but anyway honeycomb for me is horrible, so I won´t use it till final is out and a nice customization appears, I comprare it because is the question on this thread.
Get a new device? I´m on it believe me, but til now not convinced 100% about where to go... I think I´ll wait for 2010 HTC models with snapdragon and for that time hopefuly some better 6.5 will be out there, or even wm7
My Universal is much better than your Touch Pro!
m.schmidler said:
The new startmenu is maybe not everyones taste, but the new todayscreen is well done (espeically when doing some modding with the help of Xda-Devs ^^), MyPhone, Marketplace will be great and the overall fingerfriendlyness and speed has improved.
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I found a way to replace Start Menu with iLaunch or MortButton...
A lot better!
Anyway.. Does anyone here know if I can use a tab similar to M2D MEssages Tab?
Cheers...
6.5 is fine by now... xda-devs have stabled it in many ROMS and with the addition of many many mods it looks amazing and has great functionality. The thing is, that you need to differentiate WM6.5 from the Titanium interface.. Titanium is wonderful. WM6.5 is somewhere only a small small upgrade of by microsoft to 6.1. some menu changes.. some bar changes... things are mostly graphical and still do not match to the new behavior of rhodium manila and its additions (such as the start menu and pop up menus)
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The thing is, that you need to differentiate WM6.5 from the Titanium interface..
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yes, for sure...
The only thing I don't like on WM 6.5 is the Start Menu...
But I found out a way to change it with iLaunch...
Do you know any other program similar to iLaunch (free and maybe better!)?
Wm6.1 is better
WM6.5 is not a significant update. i feel only the looks and graphics has been updated no new revolutionary feature.
WM6.1 with touchflo2d/3d is fine...
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yes, for sure...
The only thing I don't like on WM 6.5 is the Start Menu...
But I found out a way to change it with iLaunch...
Do you know any other program similar to iLaunch (free and maybe better!)?
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Maybe this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=471861 can help you?
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Anyone?
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Yes! sbp diary.
flaviopac said:
Is it possible to have something similar to "M2D Messages Tab" to see our SMSes directly on our Today?
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mirchichamu said:
Yes! sbp diary.
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I guess I can't have anything similar in Tytanium WM 6.5 home screen, right?
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I guess I can't have anything similar in Tytanium WM 6.5 home screen, right?
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I don't think so. You have to go to e,g sbp pocket plus and the install sbp diary to see your sms on todays screen.
there are many many Titanium mods under development right now.. in the dev&hack section.. go check them out and see if it is either existant or possible to create such a thing.
Hey Guys,
I know that this has been discussed a hundred times .
But let me at first explain:
This goes out to all you chefs which are cooking the roms (I'm not capable to cook one by myself)
So what I would like to have is a Kaiser ROM with a working Touchflo3d.
I've read and searched for hours and hours and found the rom from L26, but I think this had been an really early state. Now the drivers have changed and improved.
So is there anyone out there who is able to cook a rom (no matter if 6.1 or 6.5) with working TF3D and drivers?
I found out that there is a working version in this tread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=465507
But it was not working with my rom (M-Opal 1.0) due to cooked M2D.
So it would give hmm a bounty of 35€ (€ not dollars) if anyone would prepare a working, fast rom with TF3D.
And I am also sure that there will be a lot of other useres who would love it.
Best regards,
Matthias
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And I am also sure that there will be a lot of other useres who would love it.
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Not me ...........................
That being said, here is the latest.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=458116
Maeffjus said:
Hey Guys,
I know that this has been discussed a hundred times .
But let me at first explain:
This goes out to all you chefs which are cooking the roms (I'm not capable to cook one by myself)
So what I would like to have is a Kaiser ROM with a working Touchflo3d.
I've read and searched for hours and hours and found the rom from L26, but I think this had been an really early state. Now the drivers have changed and improved.
So is there anyone out there who is able to cook a rom (no matter if 6.1 or 6.5) with working TF3D and drivers?
I found out that there is a working version in this tread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=465507
But it was not working with my rom (M-Opal 1.0) due to cooked M2D.
So it would give hmm a bounty of 35€ (€ not dollars) if anyone would prepare a working, fast rom with TF3D.
And I am also sure that there will be a lot of other useres who would love it.
Best regards,
Matthias
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there are already tf3d roms and if your looking for one that will work flawlessly on our kaisers, not gonna happen.
Leo (L26) made a decent rom L26_KaiserTouch_V4_M3D that actually encompasses TF3d. I have not tried the others but I do love his rom even though it is not as smooth.
I wonder how it will work with 6.5 drivers. I'm going to take a shot at cooking it into josh's rom for you. We'll see how this goes.
Why should there be no interest in TF3D on a Kaiser? (@denco)
Because I've seen a lot of videos on Youtube where it is running smooth and it also seems nearly bugless.
Like this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPf_gjMFBHs
or these one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDduRgWFweM&feature=related
What I want to fullfil my bounty should be:
1. Running TF3D
2. OpenGl-Drivers integrated in ROM (I think it is necessary to use TF3D)
3. The Standby bugfix should be integrated, which is located under the link in my first post.
4. Look and Feel like on the Videos (not any kind of "Tiger" or strange "Tribal" as system theme)
Optional but highly welcome: German Language
Or is it possible to install some kind of language pack? (I'm using WM since hmm 6 or 7 years but I've never seen such a thing)
I've tried the L26 ROM and it was not satifying to me because the speed was really low compared to the TF3D's on the youtube videos and it seemed very buggy.
If I'm not completely wrong, the version of TF3D from my first post is in an advanced state compared with the on from L26.
Thanks in Advance!
Would be nice to find some people who will help to increase the bounty!
Maeffjus said:
Why should there be no interest in TF3D on a Kaiser? (@denco)
Because I've seen a lot of videos on Youtube where it is running smooth and it also seems nearly bugless.
Like this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPf_gjMFBHs
or these one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDduRgWFweM&feature=related
What I want to fullfil my bounty should be:
1. Running TF3D
2. OpenGl-Drivers integrated in ROM (I think it is necessary to use TF3D)
3. The Standby bugfix should be integrated, which is located under the link in my first post.
4. Look and Feel like on the Videos (not any kind of "Tiger" or strange "Tribal" as system theme)
Optional but highly welcome: German Language
Or is it possible to install some kind of language pack? (I'm using WM since hmm 6 or 7 years but I've never seen such a thing)
I've tried the L26 ROM and it was not satifying to me because the speed was really low compared to the TF3D's on the youtube videos and it seemed very buggy.
If I'm not completely wrong, the version of TF3D from my first post is in an advanced state compared with the on from L26.
Thanks in Advance!
Would be nice to find some people who will help to increase the bounty!
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Yes it can run smoothely'ish the problem encountered is lack of driver to be able to sleep device in the correct manor.
But there is a patch to solve that kind of problem or am I wrong?
Q: Whenever I try and put the device into sleep mode, it powers off instead?
A: Try disabling the today time-out. Also, make sure you installed the standby CAB right.
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Taken from the Linked TF3D thread...
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But there is a patch to solve that kind of problem or am I wrong?
Taken from the Linked TF3D thread...
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No there are work arounds but no real fix
Im still TF3D fan, but after many bug and slow on my Kaiser, i have to move on.. if somebody create or develop ROM with it, i will give a try..
With that standby fix Touchflo3d is disabled automatically before sleep mode. Biggest problem for me was that when the device wakes up it needs to launch touchflo again and that process was kinda slow. Sometimes it just get stuck and needed softreset.
Still, I would be curious to see how smooth tf3d would be cooked in with newest builds and drivers...Also, if I remember right 3d drivers won't work if you have super ram hack in your rom.
Whatever ;-) ...
Also, if I remember right 3d drivers won't work if you have super ram hack in your rom.
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I don't mind if there is a super-ram-hack or what else, in my opinion it should WORK
Also I think that all of you shall take a look in your money-bag if there is a possibility to make it a little more lucrative to work on such a rom.
As I also stated out that I will pay my full bounty only if it is able to run on latetest state of development - that means not that the chef has to develop touchflo3d once again but without bugs ;-) it means only that it should be able to run as good as possible at the moment.
But as I read yesterday evening, I saw that there are maybe two possibilities to get rid of the standby bug, but - forgive me - if did not looked detailed at these solutions - so I don't know how these work but maybe one of them is working better?
And when I'm right - all the roms with TF3D cooked in are with an earlier driver-version. The younger versions of the driver have improved, if I understood the development news made in the dev. and hack. section.
The TF3D-cooked-in-rom-threads are nearly all dated arround december '08 - and I read a lot of them
Maeffjus said:
Why should there be no interest in TF3D on a Kaiser? (@denco)
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I am not saying that if you posted a working TF3d rom that no one would flash it, I would. But what is the effort /reward ?
What about it would make it better than my M2D rom ? Or anyone's 6.5 rom.
Enough great chefs put more than enough time into it, and could not get adequate drivers to make it smooth enough to keep as an everyday rom nor could they get by the stand by problem.
TF3D is M2D with some nice 3D touches that is all, am I missing something ? Is it head and shoulders above M2D or Neo Titanium, I don't think so. Which is why no one really cares to put in all the effort to make it work , nor is anyone really willing to spend any funds to make it work.
I am not being a contrarian or a nay sayer just for arguement sake, really With M$ coming out with cHome and Titanium, SPB out with MS 3, HTC coming out with Sense, there is a reason why people took porting TF3D as far as they could and then lost interest.
O.K. 0,5 Points for you
But I think that Sense is only for Andoid? Correct me if I'm doing wrong...
My problem is, that my Kaiser (and i think all others too) have not such a good touch screen accuracy... mine is terrible.
(yes, I cleaned out the frame and the edges...but on my bosses Kaiser the screen accuracy is also bad! - Compared to my - slow but accurate - P4350).
In my opinion the touchflo concept is one of the best solutions ever developed. But for me in person TF3D would be a nice looking (and little improved) upgrade. I'm already using M2D and I like it, but what I also like very much is for example the animated weather and the improved look and feel.
I have also tried 6.5 but with the terrible accuracy of my screen it is not so funny to use.. also it is not running such smooth as M2D and I in person think titanium is not everyones favourite choice. What i also do not like is the Honeycomb-Style... looks nice, but thats all.. O.k. the kinetic scrolling is good and thats one thing I like . But thats the only improvement I could see at WM6.5.
So whats your opinion: Is a rom with newest drivers and so on not for everydays use capable due to a lot of buggy functions? (I dont't know - I never used one ).
If I remember right, all the legendary cooks have tired TF3D and it doesnt work as it is supposed in Kaiser. Kaiser is just not made for TF3D. TF3D is more resource hungry, and our device just cant handle it.
I do believe there is a cab for TF3D available! Take a good lite 6.5 ROM with memory hack, and load it with TF3D, you will see if it will be able to handle it or not.
I had it working kinda decent with 6.5...just kept throwing drivers at it until i found a decent setup. But i was just wanting to see how it would be like you. When i get home i will look if i still have the file and send it to you. I cant even remember what all i had with it though lol. But like everyone has said its still slow with the newest drivers and such.
I cant find the file....but i will work on it this weekend.
Here is one that I had downloaded when the TF3D thread was alive. This does not have standby in it. So if you want to turn off your phone, then you need to find a stanby fix by somebody!
Hmm in my first post is another source for the TF3D, which has bigger files - there you'll find also the Audio Manager etc.
Has this thread died ?
Request a ROM - What would you like in a ROM? (Idea by Mr. Ill)
Have you been using the ROM's on XDA frequently, but you think everyone could benefit from an application or setting cooked into a ROM? Well, the cooks will be reading this thread, and if a cook likes the idea, they will pick it up, and either feature it in their next ROM release, or create a new ROM with it.
Instead of flooding ROM threads with requests, lets just centralize them all here! Feel free to ask for anything. If you don't get a response, then maybe the cooks didn't like the idea. If you think it's a brilliant idea, and you still didn't get a response, you could ask for it again, because a cook might have missed it.
For a list of existing ROM's, visit The Wingster.
Now, if none of the ROM's fit your needs, please, go ahead and make some suggestions below!
Current Requests
Sambalbij - Extendir to be cooked into ROM, because it's supposed to make Windows Mobile 12x faster! (3 cooks have failed at this)
daniel costa rj - Brazilian and Portuguese ROM's! WM6.5 and WM6.1 versions, with Opera Mini, Bluetooth and WiFi working, and finger friendly!
donaspl - A Windows Mobile 6.1 ROM in the Polish language.
In-Progress Requests
DumpyDooby - Remote Tracker to be cooked into ROM's from now on. (Mr. Ill is working on it)
TonyC0642 - A superclean ROM with Manila 2D cooked in. Only programs would be the base WinMo apps, and Network Wizard. Bluetooth apps, Internet Sharing, Windows Media Player, Games, and Lockscreen can be removed. (Mr. Ill has built it, and is testing it with TonyC)
HolyLove02 - Newest build of WM6.5.1 and Latest version of Manila 2D. Also themed to Super Mario Bros. Needs Bluetooth, Internet Sharing, NetCF, MMS, MS Office, and other basics. Likes the "fatty" ROM's. Also including a hefty list of apps. Donating a lot!!! (Mr. Ill is working on it)
Ideas
Rim1Flex - Photoshop Mobile to be cooked in. It's a nice program.
CheeseDave - A quite complete ROM, with various things!
I use Remote Tracker on all of my phones. So my suggestion is to compile the Remote Tracker DLL into ROMs. This would be a neat addition to SJK, actually.
While there is an obvious security issue with everyone having the same Remote Tracker password, this is easily resolved by simply advising everyone to change their password immediately upon first boot. The chef could even keep the password private and only disclose it to people who PM them for it. The neat thing about doing this is it will prevent a thief from doing a hard reset on the phone to disable Remote Tracker.
(by the way, I'm well aware that the Herald doesn't have GPS, but there are other ways of tracking a phone down with Remote Tracker. You can have it forward the thief's SIM info, make it delete all of your contacts, lock access to the MicroSD, and accomplish many other things with the program that would be useful for anyone who had their phone stolen)
I was thinking about putting in Photoshop Mobile in my Roms. It's a nice program.
http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/photoshopmobile/
I was trying to get extendir to work, but i'm not experienced so it wouldn't work. A stripped rom with extendir would be great (if extendir makes its expectations come true).
"Extendir is a file system filter driver that significantly increases the performance of your phone, in specific situations even up to 12 times as fast and faster…"
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I was trying to get extendir to work, but i'm not experienced so it wouldn't work. A stripped rom with extendir would be great (if extendir makes its expectations come true).
"Extendir is a file system filter driver that significantly increases the performance of your phone, in specific situations even up to 12 times as fast and faster…"
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Yeah, I was toying around with that one too. Couldn't figure it out. I didn't spend too much time with it.
I just want a superclean rom with M2D(preferrably 2.0 or better) and that's it. The only thing I would add is Network Wizard. No google maps, no apps of any sort aside from what's there already. In fact, some things could be stripped. Like BT_SAP/BT explorer, internet sharing, WMP(Audio Mgr is better imo), games, Lock(I use s2u2). This may be my first rom, if I can ever figure out how to add packages from other roms to SJK.
i got you covered on that one Tonyc i made it last night. M2D 2.0 with audiomanager and bluetooth. 67 storage and 21 ram. the ram is lower than i want but ya lol
illconcepts said:
i got you covered on that one Tonyc i made it last night. M2D 2.0 with audiomanager and bluetooth. 67 storage and 21 ram. the ram is lower than i want but ya lol
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Oh yeah lol I forgot, been a wierd week so far. Hit me up on IM if you need any more tests before you release it.
sambalbij said:
I was trying to get extendir to work, but i'm not experienced so it wouldn't work. A stripped rom with extendir would be great (if extendir makes its expectations come true).
"Extendir is a file system filter driver that significantly increases the performance of your phone, in specific situations even up to 12 times as fast and faster…"
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Couldn't figure it out either. I tried doing Extendir on my first ROM. No luck. It'd be cool though, lol.
Please Help ME get custom.
I would love a ROM that has the newest version of 6.5, and the latest version of Manila Touch Flo.I've been look'n for a Super Mario Bros. Theme for Manila TouchFlo forever!
I've googled it, found one for 3d, but not 2d. I'd love this as a all around theme intergraded throughout the UI.
As far as the nuts and bolts go, I need bluetooth, internet share, Net.CF, MMS, and internet good to go out of the box, MS Office, the basics. I'm also into some of the more "fatty" ROMS. Including:
Microsoft Facebook
Flash Player
Microsoft My Phone
Oxios Memory
My Light (or some other program that is finger friendly back light control.)
HTC Streaming Media
cichy 3000 Link Creator
Twikini (or similar twitter app.)
Evernote
Pandora
Chi-Tai Dang Second Today
Chi-Tai Dang Home Screen PlusPlus (with both, can overclock 6.5 to 299)
Smart Lock
Joel Illgen Phoney Call
Coo Tek Cooperation TouchPal
Pocket MSN
Brins0.net Tonality
SDK CommManager (or just a newer comm manager interface)
Google Maps
To anyone willing to help me get this ROM, I'll DEFINATELY DONATE A GOOD AMOUNT!
Thanks for making this thread. I'm not sure if this is the kind of response/request you're wanting, if not, I apologize, and understand if it's moved.
If anyone needs the cab files for any of these programs, I'll gladly send them to you.
God Bless.
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I would love a ROM that has the newest version of 6.5, and the latest version of Manila Touch Flo......
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Sounds like Mr. Ill's ROM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=553269
Now, it doesn't have all of the apps you asked, but I bet he could modify it pretty quickly to include those.
ace10134 said:
Sounds like Mr. Ill's ROM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=553269
Now, it doesn't have all of the apps you asked, but I bet he could modify it pretty quickly to include those.
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Thanks Man! I appriciate it. I sadly don't know the creator of the program, but I think by far the most used program was forgotten, The XDA Shutdown program. Thank you to whoever made it! It is a God send! lol!
As for the remote tracker, i can't seem to get it to flash over. It "flashes" fine but nothing on the other end. I tried installing the cab on top of it and it won't let me (Probably because its there somewhere). This work on 6.5 right?
holylove02 said:
I would love a ROM that has the newest version of 6.5, and the latest version of Manila Touch Flo.I've been look'n for a Super Mario Bros. Theme for Manila TouchFlo forever!
I've googled it, found one for 3d, but not 2d. I'd love this as a all around theme intergraded throughout the UI.
As far as the nuts and bolts go, I need bluetooth, internet share, Net.CF, MMS, and internet good to go out of the box, MS Office, the basics. I'm also into some of the more "fatty" ROMS. Including:
Microsoft Facebook
Flash Player
Microsoft My Phone
Oxios Memory
My Light (or some other program that is finger friendly back light control.)
HTC Streaming Media
cichy 3000 Link Creator
Twikini (or similar twitter app.)
Evernote
Pandora
Chi-Tai Dang Second Today
Chi-Tai Dang Home Screen PlusPlus (with both, can overclock 6.5 to 299)
Smart Lock
Joel Illgen Phoney Call
Coo Tek Cooperation TouchPal
Pocket MSN
Brins0.net Tonality
SDK CommManager (or just a newer comm manager interface)
Google Maps
To anyone willing to help me get this ROM, I'll DEFINATELY DONATE A GOOD AMOUNT!
Thanks for making this thread. I'm not sure if this is the kind of response/request you're wanting, if not, I apologize, and understand if it's moved.
If anyone needs the cab files for any of these programs, I'll gladly send them to you.
God Bless.
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Yeah wow, good luck with that. That's so bloated I don't think it could physically fit on your phone. And even if it does, good luck multitasking. When it comes to custom ROMs you can't have everything, that's what cab files and a storage card are for.
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Yeah wow, good luck with that. That's so bloated I don't think it could physically fit on your phone. When it comes to custom ROMs you can't have everything, that's what cab files are for.
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I think it totaled to 58 MBs. That's reasonable. I've seen bigger NBH's than that.
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I think it totaled to 58 MBs. That's reasonable. I've seen bigger NBH's than that.
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Yeah but like I said, even if it does fit, good luck multitasking. Pointless imo.
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Yeah but like I said, even if it does fit, good luck multitasking. Pointless imo.
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Not all of it is running at once. Just because something's installed, it's not taking up RAM, unless it's a background proccess app.
Anyways, this is a thread where users can request ROM's! To one person, it's useless, to another, it's amazingly awesome!
You lean toward the slim ROM's, while he leans toward the fatty ROM's. Nothing wrong with that. I personally perfer a strong set of apps to be cooked in. It's very nice having those usefull apps already there, so that you don't have to think about installing them yourself.
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Not all of it is running at once. Just because something's installed, it's not taking up RAM, unless it's a background proccess app.
Anyways, this is a thread where users can request ROM's! To one person, it's useless, to another, it's amazingly awesome!
You lean toward the slim ROM's, while he leans toward the fatty ROM's. Nothing wrong with that. I personally perfer a strong set of apps to be cooked in. It's very nice having those usefull apps already there, so that you don't have to think about installing them yourself.
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I realize that ace, I'm just saying these devices can only do so much, and just because its not running does not mean it isn't taking up space. I would be willing to bet if you built that rom it would have on average less than 15mb of free program memory. And as soon as you open something like skyfire, which is a notorious memory hog, the phone will come to a screeching halt. Storage memory means NOTHING if you don't have the program memory to back it up.
Just to clarify, that's cool if that's what he's into, to each his own. Just know the limitations of your device before demanding so much from it.
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I realize that ace, I'm just saying these devices can only do so much, and just because its not running does not mean it isn't taking up space. I would be willing to bet if you built that rom it would have on average less than 15mb of free program memory. And as soon as you open something like skyfire, which is a notorious memory hog, the phone will come to a screeching halt. Storage memory means NOTHING if you don't have the program memory to back it up.
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Then install CleanRAM on the phone, and schedule it. Problem solved.
It's his ROM, he can deal with the RAM consuption as he wants. I bet he already has all of those apps installed, and you know what, he's was apparently happy enough to have them all installed! He has probably been using that similar setup for a while, and guess what, it seem to work perfectly fine.
thanks man. I like havn the major used apps in the rom so when I have to hard reset my wing (weekly) the time it takes to reinstall everyting is minimal. (normally, apx. 2hrs.)
BIG UPS to ILL!!! the dude did almost exactly what I wanted!!! playn with it now!!!