**Alrite fellow members, so I tried samysam05's method on page3, worked flawlessly! follow his codes in ur terminal, and you will get your storage back. (I went from 37MB straight to 70MB) Round of applause for samysam05!**
So far I've known at least another person with the same issue, I wanna know if there's more.
This is what happened. I had JFv1.43Holiday, before flashing my phone with JF's cupcake.
Then I flashed the 1.5 radio from HTC, then JFv1.5 without doing a wipe. I used to have 51MB left (I do have apps2sd with data on phone), and after flashing only 30MB.
So I thought this might be caused by the fact I didn't wipe or I had data on my phone instead of SD card. I did a wipe, re-installed JFv1.5, supposedly I should have around 70MB left like others, but I only have 52MB, when I didn't install anything at all.
If anyone know why this is happening, please help! Greatly appreciated!
I've noticed the same thing.
same here...i am running the App to SD and i have been having only 32mb of "available space"...i dont know wats been going on with my available space ever since i left JFRC33 Mod to does roms nd nos 1.5.
Looks like im not the only one. hope someone can help us fix this.
happend to me also.
im down to like 28mb with only 10-15 apps installed =(
wonder whats wrong hmmm.
Do a wipe then follow the steps for apps to sd. Hopefully you have a partitioned card. I had about 30mb after wipe. Then followed Haykuro's app to sd tutorial and 63mb free now.
djdeviance said:
Do a wipe then follow the steps for apps to sd. Hopefully you have a partitioned card. I had about 30mb after wipe. Then followed Haykuro's app to sd tutorial and 63mb free now.
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So even if I already have app2sd i should still do it again with haykuro's method? (i do hv a partitioned card).
I also have this problem and *do not* and have never had apps on my SD card. I was on JF 1.42/RC33, did radio update, then JF 1.5. Didn't do a wipe before 1.5, but after root didn't work, did a wipe, then re-applied 1.5. No apps installed (straight from boot) and only 51mb free.
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I also have this problem and *do not* and have never had apps on my SD card. I was on JF 1.42/RC33, did radio update, then JF 1.5. Didn't do a wipe before 1.5, but after root didn't work, did a wipe, then re-applied 1.5. No apps installed (straight from boot) and only 51mb free.
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Yeah, i think we are on the same boat here, n more n more ppl r realizing this... hope we can get some attention on solving this, so far nth had worked.
Try this... Install the files as mentioned..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=494281
Install the files as mentioned...
File #1 from the terminal... and File #2 from the Boot screen Terminal.
u ll have 73 mb of memory on the phone.. and never crashes...
ramkt8 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=494281
Install the files as mentioned...
File #1 from the terminal... and File #2 from the Boot screen Terminal.
u ll have 73 mb of memory on the phone.. and never crashes...
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While that option is obviously available to everybody, some people may not want to go that route forever reason. The problem some are experiencing in this thread is obviously an issue of some sort. Personally, I've tried myself to get apps on the SD card, but not being very technical I was unable to get the SD card partitioned correctly. May try again as it appears SDSPLIT (which I attmpted to use) appears to have been updated.
ramkt8 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=494281
Install the files as mentioned...
File #1 from the terminal... and File #2 from the Boot screen Terminal.
u ll have 73 mb of memory on the phone.. and never crashes...
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Before i try this, I'm just somewhat curious: Even if i already got apps2sd, i should still do it again using this method? Sorry, Im not very technical...
Alrite guys, this is what i found out (ignore me if you already know).
I flashed Dude's 1.5, and official 1.5 by HTC, it appears that on any of those roms i still only get 51 or 52MB of space regardless. So it's not a problem with JF's rom. I didn't try Haykuro's, but I'm not gonna expect miracles.
I also tried flashing with a different SD card, which also didn't help. im suspecting that it's something weird with the 1.5 version itself, maybe all of us did something different to cause the loss is storage space.
I haven't tried alternative APPS2SD methods yet, just because it seems pretty painful... I will if i can't figure this out.
Maybe the 20 MB was used for the rom and system files itself... the cupcake-ish builds are a lot heaver than jfrc33 was. The same happens to me on jf1.5, H & G builds (Dudes and Hayruko) whether a2sd or not. Maybe a lot of dead files are left or something but probably just the extra weight such as vk, video rec., newer core, opengl, extra animations, ect. May be I am wrong and there is a fix... Dudes G build (heavily modded to be similar to H builds goodies) seems to give me the most free space for extra apps. Maybe that is a good alternative for some until the ota RC build is ripped and rooted by JF...
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Maybe the 20 MB was used for the rom and system files itself... the cupcake-ish builds are a lot heaver than jfrc33 was. The same happens to me on jf1.5, H & G builds (Dudes and Hayruko) whether a2sd or not. Maybe a lot of dead files are left or something but probably just the extra weight such as vk, video rec., newer core, opengl, extra animations, ect. May be I am wrong and there is a fix... Dudes G build (heavily modded to be similar to H builds goodies) seems to give me the most free space for extra apps. Maybe that is a good alternative for some until the ota RC build is ripped and rooted by JF...
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I'm thinking that's what it is. dalvik-cache is like 20mb on JF 1.5 (at least it was on the way my phone did it before I started the process I noted below). Just for ****s and giggles I deleted the directory and rebooted (had no idea what would happen) and it put it all back (same size).
I'm in the process of going back to RC29, will root the phone, will upgrade to JF 1.42 RC33 then to JF 1.5 from there and see what it shows.
It is the dalvik, when I checked right after install it was like 21meg after install and grew to 26meg fast.
I started from scratch:
Installed RC29 (reported 71mb free) Rooted the phone.
Wiped, then upgraded to JF 1.42 RC33 (reported 71mb free, dalvik-cache was like 1.2mb)
Updated radio.
Wiped, then upgraded to JF 1.5 (52mb free).
So, as sino8r's speculated above, either 1) JF 1.5 and other varients (Dude/Haykuro/Official HTC) are just larger, in which case, Google sucks for that, and it will just force those to move their apps to the SD card or 2) I'm a total ****ing idiot (quite possible)
jikei said:
I started from scratch:
Installed RC29 (reported 71mb free) Rooted the phone.
Wiped, then upgraded to JF 1.42 RC33 (reported 71mb free, dalvik-cache was like 1.2mb)
Updated radio.
Wiped, then upgraded to JF 1.5 (52mb free).
So, as sino8r's speculated above, either 1) JF 1.5 and other varients (Dude/Haykuro/Official HTC) are just larger, in which case, Google sucks for that, and it will just force those to move their apps to the SD card or 2) I'm a total ****ing idiot (quite possible)
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Well, right now I agree with ur (1), since i basically tried every build, same result all the way...
It must be the dalvik cache... have both apps and dalvik on my sd and have 61 free, regular caches are still in system... best I see with the new builds with both apps and dalvik on sd is 65 ish...
Got like 70 max in rc33... so id guess the firmware is slightly bigger but it also prob has something to do with the dalvik cuz I'm only down 5mb not 20mb
It IS the dalvik! When i was on jf 1.43 i had like 70ish free, when i upgraded i had 63 free! And to make sure i wouldnt run into trouble i went in the terminal and erased the stuff in system/sd to make sure i wouldnt have leftovers in there, then i did all the steps of app2sd EXCEPT dalvik, then i ended up with 64 mb free.
After a reboot, and then doing the last step with dalvik it was up at a swapping 71mb free!
Thats also why im now gonna use mybackup, followed with nandroids every 2nd month aprox, and put those 2 files on my laptop and a cd-rw, and then i will update both locations acordingly, and use dalvik on the sd.. I can afford to buy a new sd when its lifetime cycles of usages is over And then have a fast responding phone with a gazillion of apps on !!
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I'm stuck on the "T.Mobile G1" splash screen after trying to run apps from my sd card
i used This Thread to do my mod and now im scared!!!
can someone help me???
i was rooted on rc 33 jf 1.42
i prepared my Class 6 8G card on my MAC using disk utility then 2 partitions half (3.43G or whatever)on FAT 1st then second half (3.whatever) as ext2
i was trying to do the apps to sd card thing and after doin all of the terminal commands (i got to the point right after seeing how much space i have on my sd card and internal) this was my next step:
busybox cp -a /data/app /system/sd
rm -r /data/app
ln -s /system/sd/app /data/app
but after doin it it kept saying "no space on memory" or somethin so i went to internet cleared cache, forms, cookies, and history then restarted to make sure the terminal knew (noobish)
and it just froze at the G1 splash screen...HELP!!!!!
something like this happened to me when i downloaded a theme and i just reinstalled my original modded rc33 firm and it was fixed, but this time it did the same thing. i can still pull up the system recovery utility screen so im wondering if theres anything i can type in the log (alt+L) or console (alt+x)
CharonTheGreat said:
i used This Thread to do my mod and now im scared!!!
can someone help me???
i was rooted on rc 33 jf 1.42
i prepared my Class 6 8G card on my MAC using disk utility then 2 partitions half (3.43G or whatever)on FAT 1st then second half (3.whatever) as ext2
i was trying to do the apps to sd card thing and after doin all of the terminal commands (i got to the point right after seeing how much space i have on my sd card and internal) this was my next step:
busybox cp -a /data/app /system/sd
rm -r /data/app
ln -s /system/sd/app /data/app
but after doin it it kept saying "no space on memory" or somethin so i went to internet cleared cache, forms, cookies, and history then restarted to make sure the terminal knew (noobish)
and it just froze at the G1 splash screen...HELP!!!!!
something like this happened to me when i downloaded a theme and i just reinstalled my original modded rc33 firm and it was fixed, but this time it did the same thing. i can still pull up the system recovery utility screen so im wondering if theres anything i can type in the log (alt+L) or console (alt+x)
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Are you using one of the apps to sd ROM's? Without that all hell will break loose when you try apps to sd.
As for the poll, there's a reason why Google couldn't make apps run off the sd card. In order to do it they'd have to have the sd card be ext2 since you can't symlink to a FAT32 partition. Since windows computers won't recognize ext2 partitions that was a no-go, since, you know, 90% of people use windows. Also, look at what happens with the apps to sd hack when you take out the sd card. Suddenly apps that may or may not be running don't exist and, again, all hell breaks loose. Better to force people to hack their phones to get this working than to actually have the phone work that way when it can cause such severe problems.
EDIT: after looking briefly at the link, I see that the instructions you followed were for non-apps to sd ROMs. I see no reason why it didn't work but if you really don't feel that comfortable with it, you could always just flash one of the apps to sd ROMs and follow one of those(much easier) tutorials or even use my app to do it with the push of a button. Just remember, after moving them you MUST restart your phone for anything to work.
Whats the point of this poll?
[email protected] said:
Are you using one of the apps to sd ROM's? Without that all hell will break loose when you try apps to sd.
As for the poll, there's a reason why Google couldn't make apps run off the sd card. In order to do it they'd have to have the sd card be ext2 since you can't symlink to a FAT32 partition. Since windows computers won't recognize ext2 partitions that was a no-go, since, you know, 90% of people use windows. Also, look at what happens with the apps to sd hack when you take out the sd card. Suddenly apps that may or may not be running don't exist and, again, all hell breaks loose. Better to force people to hack their phones to get this working than to actually have the phone work that way when it can cause such severe problems.
EDIT: after looking briefly at the link, I see that the instructions you followed were for non-apps to sd ROMs. I see no reason why it didn't work but if you really don't feel that comfortable with it, you could always just flash one of the apps to sd ROMs and follow one of those(much easier) tutorials or even use my app to do it with the push of a button. Just remember, after moving them you MUST restart your phone for anything to work.
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that would be great to use your app. if i get my phoe fixed il try ur way (looks a LOT less likely to be screwed up by me). as you saw from the other thread it didn't call for a ROM and i followed the steps EXACTLY do you know of a way for me to fix this problem using the bootloader or power+home button screen? because those are the only two things i can use at the moment? I'm basically a virgin/rookie/n00b at this whole thing (horiible since was one of the earlist jailbreakers on the iphone.ipod touch) id LOOOOOVE your assistance with this and will completely listen to your steps/commands
speoples20 said:
Whats the point of this poll?
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there is no real point to this (or any for that matter) poll, except for the fact that i'm frustrated with what i did, and annoyed at t-mobile's **** in general (i've been with them since 97
CharonTheGreat said:
that would be great to use your app. if i get my phoe fixed il try ur way (looks a LOT less likely to be screwed up by me). as you saw from the other thread it didn't call for a ROM and i followed the steps EXACTLY do you know of a way for me to fix this problem using the bootloader or power+home button screen? because those are the only two things i can use at the moment? I'm basically a virgin/rookie/n00b at this whole thing (horiible since was one of the earlist jailbreakers on the iphone.ipod touch) id LOOOOOVE your assistance with this and will completely listen to your steps/commands
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'fraid I'm not sure how to do this without an apps to sd ROM(I tried to do this myself originally and ended up giving up). But flashing one of them(LucidREM's, Haykuro's apps to sd or The Dude's apps to sd) should fix whatever's going on I'd think. From your commands it looks like anything that would be fixed from the recovery terminal was already correct. You probably won't have your apps anymore but since it looks like setting jf's up for apps to sd is what failed, they're probably already gone. From there running my app should work. Also, it wont let you move the apps to sd if anything isn't set up right so this shouldn't happen again.
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'fraid I'm not sure how to do this without an apps to sd ROM(I tried to do this myself originally and ended up giving up). But flashing one of them(LucidREM's, Haykuro's apps to sd or The Dude's apps to sd) should fix whatever's going on I'd think. From your commands it looks like anything that would be fixed from the recovery terminal was already correct. You probably won't have your apps anymore but since it looks like setting jf's up for apps to sd is what failed, they're probably already gone. From there running my app should work. Also, it wont let you move the apps to sd if anything isn't set up right so this shouldn't happen again.
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how would i go about flashing your (or any1 else's) rom to my phone?
those commands i inputted were in the terminal emulator app. if there's anything in the recovery utility's console (alt+x) or log (Alt+L) id love to know (or is that what your saying your not sure about)?
CharonTheGreat said:
how would i go about flashing your (or any1 else's) rom to my phone?
those commands i inputted were in the terminal emulator app. if there's anything in the recovery utility's console (alt+x) or log (Alt+L) id love to know (or is that what your saying your not sure about)?
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For the ROMs, go to the Dream android development forum(what this thread is in) and go to LucidREM's sticky, or Haykuro's or The Dude of Life's thread. Haykuro's and The Dude's ROMs are for cupcake, Lucid's is a mod of the normal JF builds. Flashing the ROM is just a matter of putting the downloaded file from one of those posts, renaming it update.zip, placing it in the topmost directory on your sdcard, and pressing alt-w and then alt-s at the recovery screen. My app is called "apps to sd" and is available on this forum or as a donation version for $1 on the market.
by the way, anyone else think it's odd that the percentages in the poll add up to 125%?
EDIT: now 120%
So i managed to root and flash to JF 1.5 ADP then to lucidREMs 1.5 Apps2SD with my baseband version being 2.22.19.26I. It all booted up fine and everything is running fine, love cupcake btw. Then when i go to terminal and hit in the commands;
su
lucid app
lucid data
lucid dalvik
It does all of that but then if i get to the home screen or try to click home my phone just freezes and loops the "android" screen, the new one.
Anyone know a solution? Ive tried alt-w then alt-s a few times and still it freezes after apps to sd.
Thanks
Daf. said:
So i managed to root and flash to JF 1.5 ADP then to lucidREMs 1.5 Apps2SD with my baseband version being 2.22.19.26I. It all booted up fine and everything is running fine, love cupcake btw. Then when i go to terminal and hit in the commands;
su
lucid app
lucid data
lucid dalvik
It does all of that but then if i get to the home screen or try to click home my phone just freezes and loops the "android" screen, the new one.
Anyone know a solution? Ive tried alt-w then alt-s a few times and still it freezes after apps to sd.
Thanks
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Your SD Card is not formatted properly.
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I had the same type of problem last night with my apps to 2 sd. in order to get the phone to fully boot i had to do a wipe (ALT+W). I never could get the apps to SD to work correctly so if it works for you please let me know how you did it. I ensured the app and app-private folders were empty on my phone and sd cards EXT2 partition, now i see the apps in both places even though i didnt copy them. new apps appear to install in both places as well and my internal memory is still being used.
Daf. said:
So i managed to root and flash to JF 1.5 ADP then to lucidREMs 1.5 Apps2SD with my baseband version being 2.22.19.26I. It all booted up fine and everything is running fine, love cupcake btw. Then when i go to terminal and hit in the commands;
su
lucid app
lucid data
lucid dalvik
It does all of that but then if i get to the home screen or try to click home my phone just freezes and loops the "android" screen, the new one.
Anyone know a solution? Ive tried alt-w then alt-s a few times and still it freezes after apps to sd.
Thanks
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Having the exact same issue. I am coming from RC33 with Apps on SD. I wiped and installed 1.5 without issue. However, when I try to update the links (lucid app, lucid data, lucid dalvik) to pull my apps off my SD, I get the same thing as Daf. I considered that my card wasn't partitioned correctly but the apps used to run off my sd card just fine so is it possible the format changed merely by flashing 1.5? I am out of ideas
It's not my SD card as i know its partioned with EXT2 and FAT and worked perfect when i was running on RC9 with Lucids mod. Im glad im not the only one, i guess we'll have to wait until we can find a fix but for now stick with our internal memory
Yeah, it happened to me when I try to use any type of method that's out there with JF 1.5 ADP build when trying to move the caches. No one replied when I asked, so I assume there is no solution or people just don't like helping. I tried to search the forum also, but that's not much of a help when I searched last time.
Funny thing is my gf's phone has this issue as well but my phone does not. No matter which way I try to get the apps 2 sd it won't take. Although hers did work with lucids modified 1.5 but only for a short while (1 day) then went into boot loop. Maybe it's the phone, which I suspect might be the case with hers.
Ok Guys.
I created this thread cause in the JACHero thread on at least every page everyone asks how to install it, what am I doing wrong, and why is it broken.
So let me give you step by steps of what exactly I have done for me and others to run Hero with out a problem. I will also create a thread with step by step on how to use Ubuntu Linux Live distro to partition your card.
Things you will need to make this work.
Your Brain
G1 Phone
SD Card reader
And the files I included in this thread.
My phone right now is running.
JACHero 2.3
NEW SPL
cyanogens recovery 1.2
8gb class 6sd with Swapper(Swap file on ext2 sd)
setCPU slightly overclock.
Results.
Ever since I did my new Buttons, and the SPL I included in this write up, I have not had one problem flashing any hero rom at all on my phone, nor did I ever have problem actually running hero roms.
So here goes.
First before you partition your card or do anything make sure your card is at least portioned to fat32, don't worry about any other partitions yet.
OK once you do that go ahead and take the radio zip file I am including in this thread and flash it on your phone.
But first make sure you don't already have new radio installed which is 2.22.19.26I THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT. To check what radio you have, power off your phone, and power it on while holding the camera button.
If you do have new radio you can continue on to flashing the new SPL.
Flashing your SPL. (PLEASE MAKE SURE YOU HAVE THE NEW BUTTONS INSTALLED)
Ok this is where it might get a little tricky, and you might require a SD card reader I know I did and frankly I think this is the best way to do it and I recommend every time you do put a new update on your sd card to update your phone do it through a card reader.
Now after you flash your SPL you might or I should say more then likely will get stuck at the T-Mobile G1 screen, this also might happen after new radio flash in the previous step. If this is the case do not freak out it's normal and your phone is not bricked, but this is why having a sd card reader is important.
Ok so Here is what you do after you have flashed new Radio and SPL(Note:The steps on running Linux live distro and using it to partition your card is coming up). Boot up Live distro of Ubuntu, when its done booting, go ahead and go into the partitioning program while your sd card is hooked up in the computer.
Go ahead and set up two partitions at this time. One EXT3, and of course the other one Fat32. Your ext3 partition doesn't have to be all that big. I actually have mine set up to 512.
Once you are done creating partitions, go ahead and put the latest JACHero on the FAT32 portion and flash away (don't forget to rename to update.zip).
At this point if you follow all of these steps there is no way possible that your phone should not boot right into the system to run the initial setup.
These steps pretty much walk you through steps as if you were starting with a phone that has completly nothing on it.
Also the first boot up after flashing the new ROM, might take a few mins at the HTC screen.
Once your phone loads up and you go through the setup process go ahead and run swapper, it should be an APP that's already pre-installed.
Once you run swapper go into the setting and change the location of your swap file from /sdcard/swapfile.swp to /system/sd/swap.swp
Here is the reason why. The default location is your FAT32 partition. If you all of a sudden mount your phone to the computer with the swap file running on FAT32 you will corrupt your sd card, and then you will have to wipe and reinstall everything.
If you set the location of your swap file on /system/sd/ that's actually your ext2/3 partition and never gets mounted and you never have to turn swapper off.
Well I hope this helps some of you out. I will be writing the walk through on loading up live distro of Linux and partitioning your card sometime today.
I have used this method on a couple different phones and it has worked each time. Also I really recommend installing cyanogens recovery 1.2, as its an excellent way of making a back up of your phone and doing future flashing.
If there is anything anyone thinks that could be done better feel free to post in here.
Remember different people have different ways. I have posted this way cause it has worked for me on my phone and two other phones I setup, and each time there was no hicups.
FILES:
Radio 2_22_19_26I
NEW SPL
CM-Recovery-1.2
Ubuntu Linux Download
DISCLAIMER:
I am not responsible for anything that you might have done to your phone by following these directions. Like I mentioned before so far every time I have used this method, I have had nothing but success.
While I can appreciate this topic, I think you need to speak with less certainty that this will always work properly the first time.
For example - I'm coming from the Ramjet ROM, and the process that I have taken.
Freshly formatted 4gb sd card with a 700mb EXT3 partition, the rest is fat32.
Loaded JACHero 2.3 and renamed update.zip
Wiped twice
Installed ROM
Phone went into boot loop - allowed to run for 10 minutes
Removed battery
Attempted to install ROM a second time
Boot loop again - allowed to run 10 minutes
Wiped again
Installed ROM
Boot loop again - allowed to run 10 minutes
It seems strange, as going from a standard JAC build previously I was able to just wipe, wipe, install and had JACHero 2.1 working without a hitch. I found this strange, as people were complaining about that build, but it seems 2.3 is what's giving me the most headache.
/shrug. Guess I'll go back to Ramjet.
Great post, dude. I've rooted my phone, flashed a few ROMs, including Haykuro's Hero, moved Rosie back to run on the phone instead of the SD card, overclocked and run Swapper. I was still a bit confused and hesitant to flash the JAChero ROM. I'm feeling better about it now. Gonna flash when I get home from work today.
TooSlo said:
While I can appreciate this topic, I think you need to speak with less certainty that this will always work properly the first time.
For example - I'm coming from the Ramjet ROM, and the process that I have taken.
Freshly formatted 4gb sd card with a 700mb EXT3 partition, the rest is fat32.
Loaded JACHero 2.3 and renamed update.zip
Wiped twice
Installed ROM
Phone went into boot loop - allowed to run for 10 minutes
Removed battery
Attempted to install ROM a second time
Boot loop again - allowed to run 10 minutes
Wiped again
Installed ROM
Boot loop again - allowed to run 10 minutes
It seems strange, as going from a standard JAC build previously I was able to just wipe, wipe, install and had JACHero 2.1 working without a hitch. I found this strange, as people were complaining about that build, but it seems 2.3 is what's giving me the most headache.
/shrug. Guess I'll go back to Ramjet.
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I can completely see what you mean by that. But only reason I decided to make this, because two other phones that were having the exact same problems, started working after I did this.
They both had the same symptoms everyone else, and no one really knows where it came from.
So I made sure they had the right radio, then the right SPL, and every time I did something to the SD Card I killed the partitions completely not just format them.
But I destroyed the partition, recreated it and then formatted it to a file system of my choosing.
my g1 is fine ive flashed every rom here and never gotten stuck on boot loop, if anything the files youre downloading for recovery and spl must be corrupted try re downloading your radio file and spl's again.
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I like your post but here is something that I would add to your post.
Even though this has worked every time for you do not assume that it will work for every one, therefore make sure you put a disclaimer out there. As you may have seen before, there have been a lot of posters that have blamed others when their phones were either bricked or stuck in boot loops.
Remember....some people may do something wrong during a step and swear that they followed it perfectly and then blame you.
A detailed disclaimer could be of some help since a lot of people will be taking your post as LAW......
for somereason im not able to update my spl is it something u must do i keep gettin a veification faild message when im tryin to flash it wiht alt + s and i cant seem to update to jachero 2.3 im using a 1 g micro sd im really not sure whats going on i have the proper raido settings and everything. also im not really sure how to create 2 partitions on my memory card im running good ol windows vista
how fast is this running.
i tried it once without swapper and it was way to slow in my eyes in order to use at as an everyday phone.
hope you have something for me (is swapper this perfect solution?)
In my opinion the perfect solution is making a a linux swap partition on your sd card.
However last time I created a linux swap partition and created my swap file there after I rebooted my phone I got stuck at the G1 screen.
I think this might have been cause because of having three partitions on the card but I am not 100% sure.
So instead I just use swapper and make it mount the swap file on my ext3 partition which seems to make this rom run really freaking smooth.
Also I have noticed significant improvements of using ext3 vs ext2, but when research how the two different file systems work it makes sense why it would make a difference.
So to answer your question, is swapper the perfect solution? Im not sure if there is anyone perfect solution but I do know that this sure ass hell makes a huge difference in how your Hero rom runs.
for those having boot loops, how about help us help you, run ddms from sdktools and grab a log of whats going on, this way we can determine an issue, because those asking for help with bootloops and asking for help is like asking me to tell you whats wrong with your car over the phone. we cant tell if we cant see whats going on. so helps us, if you have adb and not the sdktools just type
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this way we can see what your phones trying to do.
Excellent post! I wish I this was available yesterday when I did my first Hero ROM ever. The JAC thread is huugggeeee.
Not to hijack your post, but I'll add my two cents and experiences from yesterday if you do not mind.
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Ok first time on Hero. Coming from DudesCupcake.
Pre
Formatted 1gb SD card 500mb Fat32, and the rest Ext3
hxxp://allshadow.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=5870
1. Flashed Radio 2.22.19.26I from (update.zip) successful (camera+power to check)
hxxp://code.google.com/p/sapphire-port-dream/
2. Flashed SPL 1.33.2005 from (renamed update.zip) successful (new three android skateboard logo on bottom)
hxxp://code.google.com/p/sapphire-port-dream/
3. Updated to JACHero r2.2.1 from Page 1
Now I have a boot loop, Hero -> HTC...
After installed 2.2.1 should I pop my SD card out and format it again on my computer?
Trying to do the 2.2.1 again.... Wish me luck!
**Update**
Updating to the 2.2.1 again worked.
Ok, everything works!! Much thanks to Luckenbach for the moral support, and thanks to JAC and all the other guides that I linked in my process. So if anyone else is a noob like me you can do exactly what I did (I provided links for each step where I got it from) you should be ok.
XDA rules!
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Quick questions for people with loop problems.
is your linux partition ext2 or ext3?
southeastbeast said:
Excellent post! I wish I this was available yesterday when I did my first Hero ROM ever. The JAC thread is huugggeeee.
Not to hijack your post, but I'll add my two cents and experiences from yesterday if you do not mind.
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Ok first time on Hero. Coming from DudesCupcake.
Pre
Formatted 1gb SD card 500mb Fat32, and the rest Ext3
hxxp://allshadow.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=5870
1. Flashed Radio 2.22.19.26I from (update.zip) successful (camera+power to check)
hxxp://code.google.com/p/sapphire-port-dream/
2. Flashed SPL 1.33.2005 from (renamed update.zip) successful (new three android skateboard logo on bottom)
hxxp://code.google.com/p/sapphire-port-dream/
3. Updated to JACHero r2.2.1 from Page 1
Now I have a boot loop, Hero -> HTC...
After installed 2.2.1 should I pop my SD card out and format it again on my computer?
Trying to do the 2.2.1 again.... Wish me luck!
**Update**
Updating to the 2.2.1 again worked.
Ok, everything works!! Much thanks to Luckenbach for the moral support, and thanks to JAC and all the other guides that I linked in my process. So if anyone else is a noob like me you can do exactly what I did (I provided links for each step where I got it from) you should be ok.
XDA rules!
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When you do the CAMERA+POWER boot, what exactly does the second line from the top say?
lol I wasn't requesting help, I was adding to your post! To hopefully help other people =)
Oh I know I'm just collecting data right now that's it.
DREAM PVT 32B ENG S-OFF
HBOOT-1.33.2005 (DREA10000)
CLPD-4
RADIO-2.22.19.26I
Apr 20 2009,15:30:43
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Edit: Also changing location of swapper from your info helped a lot! Thanks, I had the SD problem when I pulled out my SD card to put photos back on (instead of using adb) and I got stuck in a boot loop, I thought I was done for. Just rebooted it a few times and it was back up and running. Good tips =D
what do you mean by "new buttons"?
A quick question that ill ask here as to not clutter up JADs thread any more than it alreadsy is.
I have put on 3 of his roms in the last few days and where as they are stable they are dead slow at times for me. I am using a 2g class 2 sd card with an ext3 partition. How much more would a class 6 card speed swapper up? Is one worth getting?
Sorry to post up in this thread again, but I just wanted to provide some more of my experiences here.
I'd picked up Paragon Partition Manager and used that to format my SD card and create the ext3 partition on it as well. It seems something is wonky with how it created it, as every time I've created the partition, even with different sizes, I always get stuck in a boot loop when trying to install JACHero even though any other ROMs will install just fine.
I've put the update.zip onto my older 1gb card that came with my phone just to see if it would install, and though it took a while, it installed without any issues.
After going through the setup process, I attempted to put in my 4gb card with ext3 on it. Lo and behold, boot loop.
Seems something is funky with the way that Paragon Partition Manager creates an ext3 partition.
I'm now going to install an older ROM and go through the "creating an ext2 partition through the G1" method and then attempt to convert it to an ext3 through Cyan's instructions.
I'll try to keep up to date what's going on. I know this place isn't a blog, I'm just hoping someone will point out my idiocy if I'm making any huge mistakes somewhere.
TooSlo said:
While I can appreciate this topic, I think you need to speak with less certainty that this will always work properly the first time.
For example - I'm coming from the Ramjet ROM, and the process that I have taken.
Freshly formatted 4gb sd card with a 700mb EXT3 partition, the rest is fat32.
Loaded JACHero 2.3 and renamed update.zip
Wiped twice
Installed ROM
Phone went into boot loop - allowed to run for 10 minutes
Removed battery
Attempted to install ROM a second time
Boot loop again - allowed to run 10 minutes
Wiped again
Installed ROM
Boot loop again - allowed to run 10 minutes
It seems strange, as going from a standard JAC build previously I was able to just wipe, wipe, install and had JACHero 2.1 working without a hitch. I found this strange, as people were complaining about that build, but it seems 2.3 is what's giving me the most headache.
/shrug. Guess I'll go back to Ramjet.
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did you try going into recovery and then choosing fix file extensions... that happend to me, it might be because you have no ext 2
I have the 0.7 rom load with both patchs and the blue theme, I want to try out apps 2 SD i just didnt know the best route in doing so, for it to work correctly with your rom. If i use the format function in the recovery menue would it automatically save my apps on the SD and work properly or would i have to reinstall them?
BAttitude7689 said:
I have the 0.7 rom load with both patchs and the blue theme, I want to try out apps 2 SD i just didnt know the best route in doing so, for it to work correctly with your rom. If i use the format function in the recovery menue would it automatically save my apps on the SD and work properly or would i have to reinstall them?
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(I personally don't like apps2sd but if you really have that many apps...)
Yea. Backup your sd card (it will get wiped). Boot in to recovery and create swap+ext2+fat32 and then convert ext2 to ext3 (all are options in the recovery menu). It will move everything for you.
Why don't you like apps 2 sd? I just figure if you have that you won't have worry about internal memory if you wanted to have a lot o
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This is why he doesn't like it:
flipzmode said:
**My note about Apps2SD: I added support for it in this release of the rom because people who were using it in other roms that tried to install this rom were receiving errors. Here's my point of view on it.
I played with it for over 8 hours today between implementing it and then testing it to make sure this fix would work. I have personally come to not like apps2sd, but I am including it for those who use it.
The reason I don't like it is because it puts your phone at a huge risk of having problems once anything goes wrong. If you install a program that causes issues, a nandroid backup will not resolve the issue because the application is installed on your SD card not your phone. If your phone starts going crazy as reported here and here, then even just a restore possibly won't fix it. You might need to go as far as to wipe your SD card too. If you are lucky enough to have a restore fix your problems you will still need to reinstall every app, even if you didn't wipe your card. And on top of that when you try to reinstall any app it will think it's still installed, even though you restored your phone. But when you click "uninstall" it will just freeze half the time because there's nothing on the phone for it to actually install. I have also read many threads that say if you happen to boot the phone up without the SD card in then it will screw everything up.
So now maybe you are wondering why I would add Apps2SD support in this rom. In order for people who are currently using Apps2SD to upgrade to this rom I must support it or require them to do a hard reset before coming to fresh. Clearly I don't want you to have to reset so I have supported it. With that said: I personally recommend not using it. This rom will auto-use it if your SD card is formatted for it (fat32+ext2+swap partitions) but it won't use it if you are only partitioned as 1 fat32. My suggestion is to stick to the 1 partition and let your applications install on the phone. Linux is not like Windows in the sense that it will run the same whether you phone has 140 megs free of storage space or 10 megs free. So unless you plan on installing 100 apps, I don't see the practical purposes of using Apps2SD. But a lot of people like it.
Now with all of THAT said -- this rom officially has and supports Apps2SD. It is a program that I think has the possibility of being great, but has to work within the confines of the phone which means tricking Android in to thinking that the applications are installed on the phone when they aren't. That is what leads to all the problems mentioned above.
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If i have apps2sd already from the previous rom i don't have to re-do it for the new one correct?
no you dont.
using apps2sd2 problems
I followed all the instructions here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=5618439#post5618439 for apps2sd2 yet when I open the app, it STILL says Oops, you have to run through the tutorial to set it up. I've DONE THIS. I'm extermely frustrated. I have no idea what more to do. My sd card is partitioned correctly. I've run all the commands listed in that tutorial. PLS HELP! Also all my apps are showing in /system/sd/app AND data/app. Is this correct? Why won't Apps2sd2 work for me? I really need some troubleshooting help.
I have a rooted CMDA HTC Hero using the Fresh ROM. Also is there a way to still get Sprint TV using this ROM?
Fresh .7 doesn't support A2SD, only Fresh 1.0 & 1.1.
So i am planing on selling my G1 to a friend, now I told him I will root his phone, but heres the thing, I want to unlock it for him since he uses at&t, that I can already do
But I wish to root his phone but not have a custom build, Since most Iv tryed crash more then the phone should and he has a 2gb sd card so he can't do apps on sd
is it possible, and once again ill state it,
1)unlocked
2)root w/ superuser
3)No custom build or if I have to,do a good non apps on sd thats very very very stable
4)Donut (latest android version)
it is very possible to do app2sd on a 2g card. it's not the best, but it is extremely possible. i ran my phone with a2sd on a 2g card for several months and it worked perfectly fine.
I dunno if this will work, and I might be totally just talking crazy, but if you didn't partition your sd card, i don't think it should use a2sd, since i guess to run it, it looks for that second partition? So just like a regular stock sd card without any other partitions should let him use just the regular memory. And on that note, enomther's roms are pretty close to stock, and i'm sure your friend wouldn't mind those extra little additions. Just a suggestion. Hope it helps!
eessel said:
I dunno if this will work, and I might be totally just talking crazy, but if you didn't partition your sd card, i don't think it should use a2sd, since i guess to run it, it looks for that second partition? So just like a regular stock sd card without any other partitions should let him use just the regular memory. And on that note, enomther's roms are pretty close to stock, and i'm sure your friend wouldn't mind those extra little additions. Just a suggestion. Hope it helps!
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sounds about right to me. if there's no ext partition on the card, it can't use apps2sd.
doesn't enomther have just a base donut with just root? no fancy stuff?
grandomegabosses said:
sounds about right to me. if there's no ext partition on the card, it can't use apps2sd.
doesn't enomther have just a base donut with just root? no fancy stuff?
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well, I think there's under the hood stuff to make it run a bit faster, but apart from that, it's pretty close to stock. And like I said, his friend shouldn't complain about the extras, or else maybe he doesn't deserve it. lol.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=538456
These are standard OTA roms w/ root.
That should cover all you need.
tanner2007 said:
...he has a 2gb sd card so he can't do apps on sd
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And what is a problem to use app2sd on 2gb card? I use stock 1gb sd card for a2sd and everything is working fine.
Even if your friend only runs a 2gig card with just a 150meg ext partition still better than whats on the phone itself and is hardly a noticable loss.
As already mentioned on here Enomthers base rom and the 2.3.3 ext pack are pretty close to stock with a few improvements and I've been running it hard for over a month and never had any problems or issuse's and if you use Amon RA's 1.5.2 recovery image your blazing fella. I switch roms like my underwear at the moment and the nandroid + ext backup on the recovery image brings me back to exactly how is was before switching! Tis genius!
holysmokesbatty said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=538456
These are standard OTA roms w/ root.
That should cover all you need.
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I need root, not without =] unless w/ means with? lol can someone clarify?
shadowch31 said:
Even if your friend only runs a 2gig card with just a 150meg ext partition still better than whats on the phone itself and is hardly a noticable loss.
As already mentioned on here Enomthers base rom and the 2.3.3 ext pack are pretty close to stock with a few improvements and I've been running it hard for over a month and never had any problems or issuse's and if you use Amon RA's 1.5.2 recovery image your blazing fella. I switch roms like my underwear at the moment and the nandroid + ext backup on the recovery image brings me back to exactly how is was before switching! Tis genius!
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I dont care about features, if it has root, and no crashing, im good apps2sd is a plus so tell me more about this?
and lets say if i restarted my root process, how would i do it? the guides all have JF old roms in the tuts, idk what to install first after the guide
for everyone else. thanks much