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Hello, I have read many threads here over past month re various ROMS people here have developed to upgrade various mobile devices. I have the MDA from T-Mobile (HTC wizard). As all of you know, t-mobile would not support this device for windows6. But I read the various pinned threads re: step by step instructions for how a user would prep his phone then flash rom. Despite the clarity of the steps, I am not at all confident I can handle this stuff.
Newbies make many mistakes at specialized forums like this one, and one of them may be what I am asking: But, is there a place on this forum where one can engage an XDA pro to do the flash rom upgrade and install a few upgrade apps like slide2unlock?
If so, please point me to the correct place. If this is not officially supported here, then if someone can do this, could you PM me?
I would like to ask publically, in the event this kind of service is allowed here, what is a fair & reasonable price for doing this?
Also, I understand the risks -- and though it has become very unlikely, i understand it is possible that a flash rom procedure could brick my phone. Thus, I am just guessing that anyone who would undertake the task of doing this for me would have me first sign a release form which states that I understand the risks and that I accept that should there be a glitch which ends up bricking my phone, I am 100% liable for that risk, and that the person performing the upgrade work would be in no way liable for any malfunctions that would arise.
I am at the point where I would accept losing the value of my phone -- with the high probablility that the upgrade would work just fine, thus improving my productivity and capabilities in using my phone.
For example, I just installed skype for PocketPC on my phone, and it works. A year ago I had tried this and it didn't. So I know that though my processor and ram are fixed and are inherent limitations, but that with the new OS (wM 6) plus other mods, the overall performance capability of the phone is increased by large measure.
It's funny but I tried a friend's iphone the other day and he, without prompting, asked me to type an email. I did, using the multi-touch keyboard. Still, with its recognition capabiities, I made errors every 3rd or 4th letter entered. Conversely, when I use the stylus on my MDA, I have much better success. Sure, training would improve -- maybe -- but I for one don;t accept the basic premise that the stylus is inferior, and that finger touch is the only way to go. When it comes to scrolling, absolutely the finger brushing seems 100 times better than any stylus. But I guess my point is, I think there is still quite a bit of good life remianing in my MDA.
And I absolutely use the handwriting note taker everyday... and would want to retain the abilityt to use the "transcriber" app on windows, because i find it pretty reliable to me, with the only downside being the non-smart Windows OS that fails to auto-toggle to KEYBOARD whenever i have to enter a user name or password, thus requiring manual switch to keyboard, then back again to transcriber.
Sorry for the length. I'm been delaying for months getting this addressed, and so I wnated to just ask: can someone do this for me? If so, how much will it cost? And what would be the shipping & payment arrangements.
Thank you much,
Richard in SF
hey man everything you need is for free, don't pay a cent unless your donating to someones work or if wrose comes to wrose you have to ship the process is very simple, I would link but I can't even use my computer my motherboard ****ted out so the links have been in my sig you'll read the unlocking for dumbys fallow that to the T then you can use mine or any other wm6 rom on the forum then search the slide to unlock here and I'm sure you'll find some threads with it..
if you still don't want to unlock your phone I would do it for if you cover shipping once my computer is fixed if it every is..it was my first custom build computer didn't expect it to last this long LOL
its free, just follow the threads, unlocking and flashing a new rom, just follow it to the letter you will not be misled, i did it on my own as well as the others before me, i dont have much knowledge in the computer or pocket pc either, slide to unlock you just have to download the latest version, copy it to your pocket pc and install from there, then go to start/programs/slidetounlock click it and its done
if you commit a mistake just post your problem a lot of people will help you, its better to do it on your own rather than having others do it, because there are a lot of new stuffs for the wizard
1st see check the forum to see if you have a G3 or G4
This is VERY important
I don't have a G4 so i don't know there steps but with a G3
Look for the button rom. Flash to that 1st. It will unlock your phone.
Flash back to your carrier's rom (tmobile in your case)
Flash to new Wm6 rom. So far Octavio's 5.7 is the best for me. There are a lot of choices. If you decide to flash to another WM6 rom after that, 1st flash back to your carriers. It helps to have a stable base and i find i don't get bad flashes that way.
The new slide 2 unlock is a cab file. just copy it to your phone and double click it to install. There is a setting program you will find under programs on your phone.
Radio 2.19 gets rid of almost all missed call issues should you experience them.
and SPL 3.08 will speed up your boot process (mine boots with Octavios in 7 seconds)
Hope this helps you. If you have a G4 though don't follow the above.
If someone could post here how to tell the difference as i forget how nowadays, we can start him out right without bricking his phone.
its best to look up this topic about rom flashing..
it is a nice tutorial and will help you a great deal with flashing
the device as it should be done..
There is no reason to pay anyone for this. There is a very detailed wiki that will detail everything you need to know about how to go about upgrading your Wizard. It is surprisingly easy once you get going. You just have to be patient and have a tough gut. The link to the wiki I'm talking about is in my signature titled How to upgrade to Windows Mobile 6 For Newbies!!
Just read that whole wiki and make sure you understand everything and once you feel confident that you understand what you've read, begin the preparation stage and download EVERYTHING you will need to finalize the process in advance before ever starting. This will make the upgrading process go more smoothly.
Good luck.
P.S. I am available for chat on AIM or Windows Live Messenger if you would like me to walk you through it. I will NOT, however, accept any payment or do it for you. Everyone needs to learn on their own because hypothetically, what happens if you tell me what ROM you want and then I do it all for you and then you decide you don't like the ROM or it is too buggy, then you have to either send to someone else again and pay for it to be changed, or learn how to do it yourself. My addresses are at the top of every one of my posts.
Okay, everyone who replied, thank you. I will get focused and do it
It reminds of when I was a kid and climbed up the high dive for the very first time, and looked down at the pool. Low dive had not been a prob... but high dive seemed a certain disaster!
But I am here to tell the story, so, okay I guess I can manage.
I will go back to the threads and wiki and print out instructions first, then determine what kind of phone I have, then go download everything I will need, as suggested, and proceed.
but here's my User 101 question: Part of what makes me nervous is the nomenclature itself" What does it mean to "flash a ROM"? I don't even get that. I know that ROMS are read-only-memory, and are the thing that one updates when new firmware is released for a device. But as silly as it sounds, I don't know what flash ROM means. Similarly, I am looking for a replacement video card for my Mac, and forums recommend that the fastest cards for the Mac are ones that are PC cards that are flashed.
I am sure once I hear what it means, technically, I will "get it", by right now it seems like sending a jolt of electricity to some printed circuit and that's what makes me nervous.
Thank you all very much.
status: I determined i have a G4 device: ipl: 2.26.0001
Sir...24 hours ago I barely knew how to take pics off my phone and put them on my computer. After reading most all the stuff posted here for about a good hour, I attempted it and got everything to work (just like they said) in about 70 minutes. I took my time, read everything twice (sometimes three times) and went for it. Don't be scared to break a few eggs to make the omelet.
It's kinda like that scene from The Matrix where there is a blue pill and red.
One road takes you right back to where you were before and you never knew the difference and the other "frees your mind."
You won't regret it.
-Ivan
quicksite said:
status: I determined i have a G4 device: ipl: 2.26.0001
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Ahh ignore my instructions then... and when you flash a WM6 rom make sure it is G4 safe... ask the maker of the rom. Most will tell you.
Let me see if I understand the HardSPL vs Soft SPL choice:
Thanks Ivan... I just read the instuctions several times. I can just say right off that distilling this down to a single wiki entry has removed a great deal of the anxiety -- and hats off to those who constructed this - as well as those whose prior work formed the basis for the underlying info. Many months before, when Windows6 had just come out, and carriers like T-Mobile opted to not support it on their Wizard device (MDA), the inital reverse engineering that took place here to first successfully create a windows6 rom was fascinating... but the steps back then to try it yourself were filled with warnings about bricking phones... Then later, when then iphone first came out, it seemed to me that the windows6 upgrade for a Wizard/MDA was then scripted and reliable -- but everyone's expectations were rasied with the introductuin oif some very cool functionality of the iphone, including the sldie2unlock function, as well as the scroll with a finger brush movement.
At that time, there were people on YouTube who within 2 days had emulated the slide2unlock functions onma Windows Mobile device, and for me the question then was "how much of that iphone functionalituy can be replicated for these windows based devices?". This is part of why I held up digging in. Then lo and behold the HTC Touch appeared, and I read people here requesting owners to publish the ROM - and amazingly now that has been all cracked and merged into (apparently) some of these Windows6 ROMS.
I am in awe of the enterprising abilities of the pros here. And now am ready to follow the process. Seems to me I am going to get a far greater phone as a result than many which T-Mobile is selling as their new state of the art.
The one thing I would like to parrot back to see if I digested fully:
As for whether to use HardSPL or SoftSPL, this is what I understood:
(1) USING HARD SPL:
Pros: Once installed, you can then try ROM/upgrade after ROM/upgrade without intermediate steps of needing a separate loader. Useful if you want to try various ROMS til you find the one that best meets your needs. This is possible because HardSPL tricks your device into thinking it hads CID permanently unlocked,
Cons: If you have to return the phone to carrier for warranty work or replacement, in order to not void your warranty you must first return the ROM to be the carrier's official version, and you must then uninstall HardSPL, so there are no traces of "tampering".
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(2) USING SOFT SPL:
Pros: If you have to retunr the phone to carrier, your warranty is preserved by simply restoring the Carrier's official ROM first.. and since HardSPL to not overwrite any CID information, there is nothing to uninstall.
Cons: If you want to try various ROM versions XDA developers have created and shared here, there are extra steps required each time you want to try a new ROM... whereas if you'd installed HardSPL, there would be no intermediate steps.
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Do I have this correct? If so, what am I missing -- because it seems like a simple choice and that HARD SPL provides much greater ease and flexibility. And as for restoring the phone to Carrier's warranty compliance, as I understand, you STILL have to prep the phone before returning it to carrier. In case of using Soft SPL, you simply have to restore the official ROM, then done. Whereas, if used HARD SPL, you have to do that as well, AND uninstall HARD SPL. have I got this right?
if so, from what I read, the one additional step required is to run Start-sSPL.exe, whiuch sounds to me like it is automated - such that as long as you follow directions, HARD SPL uninstalls.
I *do* see the language "Removing HardSPL - USE AT YOUR OWN RISK!" -- and I saw also "If your SPL is still 2.21.olip then you did something wrong and are prob staring at a pretty expensive paperweight."
But what I did NOT see is: "Running Start-s-SPL.exe is buggy and not reliable, so to play it safe, we recommend using SoftSPL."
So I just would like to get a reply to this before I proceed. (thanks!)
And thank you ROCOAFZ for giving me the shortand steps if I had had a G3 model. All the help here is phenomenal.
Ok i wanna root my g1 BAD. I want to be able to move the cache and install the development version of cupcake. but 1 BIIIIIG problem. I DO NOT have a data plan. I have read and it seems that when you root it factory resets your g1 which that means your sim card must have the data plan on it.
Is their any possible way for me to root in my circumstance?
Thanks
If you install the adp1.1 version, you can skip the login, enable wifi, then login through that.
ok umm im a mega newb to rooting and stuff lol. so can you or someone provide a COMPLETE step by step tutorial on what to do from block one? and to make sure I dont root it wrong and so i'll be able to login with wifi?
thanks lol
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ok umm im a mega newb to rooting and stuff lol. so can you or someone provide a COMPLETE step by step tutorial on what to do from block one? and to make sure I dont root it wrong and so i'll be able to login with wifi?
thanks lol
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Sam, this forum is full of tutorials -- all you have to do is find the right one and read through it, THEN ask questions. There's a pretty steep learning curve involved, and few people have the time to hold your hand all the way, especially if you don't invest the minimal effort.
best,
the step by step is written in the sticky on how to root your g1. why would someone re write it for you? silly. go do some learning, then think about rooting your g1.
Sticky: Rooting, Hacking, and Flashing your G1/Dream
says it right in the title.
While it is possible to do what you want as far as I can see it's a considerable amount of hassle, and for it's functionality the g1 without a dataplan is like a computer minus the psu, even with wifi... so you may want to reconsider.... but as I said it can be done! Firstly what firmware do you have, are you uk or us based? The us phone let's you install a modified version of rc29 whichs you can easily bypass the registration screen (jesusfreke) has left a very helpful no dataplan sticky). The uk version has additional steps to simply roll back and install mod rc29, as it can only roll back to an earlier uk model, be rooted and then get a us image.
Give us a little more information, and don't worry I was there only a month ago, now I've installed fastboot, jf1.4, run my apps off sdcard and have replaced that stupid g1 tmobile screen. There really is a learning curve but you'll get there
well i am on US rc30 atm.
well no dataplan is fine for me really. but the memory is KILLING me. id LOVE LOVE to have root.
There have been multiple step by steps written Sam...
Like another poster stated, if your not willing to even read the introductory material on rooting your phone, it's unlikely someone will want to even help you initially.
That said, there are both numerous tutorials on how to root your phone, and how to activate the phone without a data plan so just search the forum/read the stickies for them and start on the first step yourself rather then waiting around.
Meeker
That said, the Dataplan is not necessarily a killer, but definately a cool benefit if your willing to pay the associated costs =) But personally for me, I'm a cheap bastard...
samrozzi said:
Ok i wanna root my g1 BAD.
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Judging from the three or four other threads he started here saying "Ack! Help!!" and the threads saying the same over on the AC, I'd say his plan to "root my g1 BAD[ly]" has succeeded.
Soo should we start waiting for the
Ack! Help! I've Br1cked my g1 BADly
Posts soon?
Sorry couldn't help myself....
Over on the AC he posted that he's thinking about "installing cupcake".
IT BURNS!!!!
Meeker said:
Soo should we start waiting for the
Ack! Help! I've Br1cked my g1 BADly
Posts soon?
Sorry couldn't help myself....
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You know, I lurked around and didn't want to post for a long time because I know I'm totally inept at this and I know I'm an outside/intruder here. I only posted my own question to a problem when I was unable to find a solution via search/google and puzzle the rest out myself. I wish others would do that as well to preserve the usefulness of the boards (because they are incredibly helpful!). And ultimately I hope the next person to run into my same error can find my thread via search & fix it themselves.
Sorry for being off topic, but the thread will probably be locked down anyway.
Xeroproject said:
You know, I lurked around and didn't want to post for a long time because I know I'm totally inept at this and I know I'm an outside/intruder here. I only posted my own question to a problem when I was unable to find a solution via search/google and puzzle the rest out myself. I wish others would do that as well to preserve the usefulness of the boards (because they are incredibly helpful!). And ultimately I hope the next person to run into my same error can find my thread via search & fix it themselves.
Sorry for being off topic, but the thread will probably be locked down anyway.
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I know, I totally got baited on this one... but I think the inherent frustration for the bulk of us who got baited on this one was the fact that if you looked at the top 5 stickies on the forum.... the answers where right there... it's only the fact that the original poster never wanted to read them....
No more replies? Lets let this one die the way it deserves to?
samrozzi: You should really start using the search, but pretty much all of the information you need is in stickys. But here you go
Start with rooting your device.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=442480
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When ever you need to have to log in to the google accounts use this:
"to enable and configure wifi, so that the registration process can connect to the google servers. In an adb shell session, type the following command:
am start -a android.intent.action.MAIN -n com.android.settings/.Settings
This doesn't have to have root access to work. It works fine with the "shell" user that adb on non-modded phones runs as.
That command will bring up the settings page on your phone. From there, you can enable wifi and connect to your wifi network, and then proceed with registration as per normal "
Taken from: JesusFreke at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=452316
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In the end use JF RC30, or ADP V1.41
From http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=475381
As the link from the original/first post are V1.31 and i tried them earlier and the links do not work.
Hope that helps.
Hey guys
Just thought i would share a tutorial i made about flashing ROMs
If this helps anyone in any way then i will be happy, i know there is already a few Flash guides out there but i wanted to have a go at my own.
Anyways if you find it helpful please leave a comment on the tutorial or if you have anything i could add leave a comment saying what it is.
http://96edwy.wordpress.com/2010/08/06/the-ultimate-guide-to-flashing-a-rom-windows-mobile/
Thanks a lot!
Very useful for newbies
If this comes out strong, I apologize in advanced, but you said that you want feedback on it, so here it is:
Title: The Ultimate Guide to Flashing a ROM (Windows Mobile)
This title suggest that you will provide a guide to flash many (if not all) WM devices, when in fact, you are only talking about the HD2 the whole time.
HSPL: You barely touch this subject and it should be up in bold red letters as without it, you cannot flash anything, at least not without semi-bricking your device in the process (fixable by flashing back to stock).
Build numbers: You may want to look at some stuff from Da_G, some other in PPCKitchen.org, and PPCGeeks as well before writing what you did in there. There are many more changes than just the UI from COM2 to COM3,4,5 and WMD. Also, the screenshot for 21911 that you used for the Start Menu, that is a screenshot of one of the first 6.5 leaks to ever hit the internet, and it is about 2 years old (you can tell because of the honeycomb pattern around the icons).
Lastly, but most important of all. Towards the beginning of the guide, you make it apparent that you will be talking about flashing your HD2, which is fine. What you are not touching in here, and will fully brick people's device if not done properly, is to tell the difference between European version of the Leo (512 MB) and the US version (1024 MB). Flashing a rom or a radio of one version onto the other will fully brick the device... no questions asked.
Again, I apologize if I came out a little strong, but you really have to correct your guide or you will end up making a lot of people brick a lot of devices.
One last note: make sure to give credit to the people that made this possible. Cotulla and DFT for the HSPL and NRG for the rom (as you refer to his rom in your guide) as well as many others who have worked hard to get us where we are at.
egzthunder1 said:
If this comes out strong, I apologize in advanced, but you said that you want feedback on it, so here it is:
Title: The Ultimate Guide to Flashing a ROM (Windows Mobile)
This title suggest that you will provide a guide to flash many (if not all) WM devices, when in fact, you are only talking about the HD2 the whole time.
HSPL: You barely touch this subject and it should be up in bold red letters as without it, you cannot flash anything, at least not without semi-bricking your device in the process (fixable by flashing back to stock).
Build numbers: You may want to look at some stuff from Da_G, some other in PPCKitchen.org, and PPCGeeks as well before writing what you did in there. There are many more changes than just the UI from COM2 to COM3,4,5 and WMD. Also, the screenshot for 21911 that you used for the Start Menu, that is a screenshot of one of the first 6.5 leaks to ever hit the internet, and it is about 2 years old (you can tell because of the honeycomb pattern around the icons).
Lastly, but most important of all. Towards the beginning of the guide, you make it apparent that you will be talking about flashing your HD2, which is fine. What you are not touching in here, and will fully brick people's device if not done properly, is to tell the difference between European version of the Leo (512 MB) and the US version (1024 MB). Flashing a rom or a radio of one version onto the other will fully brick the device... no questions asked.
Again, I apologize if I came out a little strong, but you really have to correct your guide or you will end up making a lot of people brick a lot of devices.
One last note: make sure to give credit to the people that made this possible. Cotulla and DFT for the HSPL and NRG for the rom (as you refer to his rom in your guide) as well as many others who have worked hard to get us where we are at.
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thanks a bunch mate, you didn't come across strong, i appreciate your help to be honest as i did ask if there was anything i needed to add.
i know that its only really for the HD2 but i assumed it was fairly similar to flash other devices using the RU utility? (obviously you have to have the right RU for your phone) and i named it the ultimate guide so it looks interesting to read.
i know that the 6.5.3 build has other new stuff and not just a small ui change but i was assuming that if your a newby to it all then the techy stuff should be left out cus the only noticable difference to a newb is really the UI change.
i will change everything you stated ASAP
96edwy said:
thanks a bunch mate, you didn't come across strong, i appreciate your help to be honest as i did ask if there was anything i needed to add.
i know that its only really for the HD2 but i assumed it was fairly similar to flash other devices using the RU utility? (obviously you have to have the right RU for your phone) and i named it the ultimate guide so it looks interesting to read.
i know that the 6.5.3 build has other new stuff and not just a small ui change but i was assuming that if your a newby to it all then the techy stuff should be left out cus the only noticable difference to a newb is really the UI change.
i will change everything you stated ASAP
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Make sure you focus primarily on HSPL and on the different versions of the HD2 and the radios as well. These are the key and most important areas in the flashing guide.
Not all devices require HSPL, and while running the RUU may seem standard, sometimes you need to do things before this step (for instance, in the Blue Angel, you have to put the device in bootloader prior to flashing.)
Cheers
egzthunder1 said:
Make sure you focus primarily on HSPL and on the different versions of the HD2 and the radios as well. These are the key and most important areas in the flashing guide.
Not all devices require HSPL, and while running the RUU may seem standard, sometimes you need to do things before this step (for instance, in the Blue Angel, you have to put the device in bootloader prior to flashing.)
Cheers
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have added warnings about radio and hd2 versions. also added wiki links to build versions and explained more about differences between 6.5 and 6.5.x
added section at the top stating this guide is based on the hd2 and while it may work the same on other devices flashing processes can vary
again thank you for your feedback
so i just loaded froyo 2.2 and the A853_Telus_Upgrade_SHOLS_U2_03.11.0_USASHLSMR2TLSB1B2B506D.0R_Service1FF.sbf for the boot load, everythin works, but i have no signal. help would be greatly appreciated, thanks
Tonka, no offense intended, but why do we need four new threads from you, all pretty much relating to the same issue?
furthermore, if you had read the guide posted with the ROM, you would've known to back up your radio files BEFORE flashing...
after flashing and restoring them, if it's still not working, there are posts in the ROM's thread that include links to the radio files to various popular carriers, almost all of which work.
I got my radio files from someone on the forum here, you can too.
btw, RTFM. honestly.
im sorry, its jus i kept encountering other problems along the way, but would u please give me the link to these radio files, an tell me where id have to place them. thanks
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im sorry, its jus i kept encountering other problems along the way, but would u please give me the link to these radio files, an tell me where id have to place them. thanks
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sure, here's a great link for you to get started with...
http://www.google.com
ur an asshole
TONKAFORCE said:
ur an asshole
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thanks for the compliment.
to be totally frank, I had many of the same issues you did. From this forum alone, I'm up and running full time on the MotoFrenzy 2.2 build.
I only got working because there's plenty of other people who have had the same problem who have ALREADY documented the fixes.
If you look hard enough, I bet you'll find them too.
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this reminds me of the old addage about teaching a man to fish... just in this case, it's about teaching a man to search.
well it would save me a lot of time if you could just help me, like i just have one question,i got the working radio files from system/etc/motorola/bp_nvm_default/
an copied:
File_Audio
File_Audio2
File_GSM
File_Seem_Flex_Tables
generic_pds_init
now i jus dont know how to replace them witht eh froyo 2.2 ones. could u help me?
I really can't. I already spent a significant amount of time searching for answers in the loins of this forum for myself... I don't have time to do it for you too.
To be honest its quite the selfish request you're making there... hmmm... and you call me an asshole then expect me to help. Ha. No thanks.
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just check out the first couple of pages of dexter's post, it's all in there
not to interfere with the debate,
but an honest answer is also, if you cannot understand the steps explained, i would not recommend trying to install any mods for openrecovery and messing with the files in the system..
you can easily corrupt the image, and you will spend even more time on trying to figure out why A is not working , while B,C,D problem suddenly occur causing A not to function..
I know HTC made it easy for all modders to make custom firmwares using almost identical radio's and only in some cases, it goes really bad for some regions, but in our case Motrola decided to make the baseband a huge part of the drivers and way to resolve communication and even make it provider locked or complex in a way i cannot even explain. (preferred providers over others as example, custom mobile services as another)
many HTC mods, includes support for like 12-15 countries in one image, looking at "locale" supported, where motorola pushes 12 different firmwares out..i personally only mess with a UK as it worked fine for me, trying to make the other 11 work, would require much more support and engagement in the technical aspects of the mod..we are lucky a few document and write feedback on how they accomplished to make it work (telus as example)
I couldn't agree more.
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got it all working
Hello everyone. I want to thank you all for this site, I have learned a great deal here and appreciate all your efforts. I have a question that many new comers have asked and they have been told to go read, so thats what I will do. I want you to know tho that its very hard when you have a baby, and very little time. I also want you to know that the only times I am really productive getting somewhere with my phone is staying up till like 4 am because everyone is asleep and I have the time needed to dedicate to all this reading, trying and learning.
I am not complaining, in fact I am grateful because I am getting somewhere thanks to your help, which has been more valuable than all the help Samsung and Rogers have given me washing their hands clean and leaving me with a defective phone. My problem has not been solved just yet, but I think a 2.2.1 rom will fix my problem. Ill keep reading and trying, ill get there.
I suggest you guys have a wikipage with a table with all the roms, what versions of android they are, what kernels, modems, etc they work with ( or not work with ), bugs, features, something all in 1 page for easy access. This would make it easier for people to access information. The easier it is the more people will use them and come here, the more ideas you will have, the more testers, its a win win situation!
I have been to the pages for all the roms, some of them tell you the bluetooh voice dialing is not working, most don't, id have to go looking for my answer. I have learned that for instance it seems people do not have an issue with it with froyo 2.2.1 but again, some roms tell you in the main page its 2.2.1, others don't.
I can't grasp all the information staying up at night till 4 am. Its the only time I have. I almost had a heat attack when I thought I bricked my phone, I can't afford another one. If all the important information is right there on 1 page, like links to the usb drivers, tools, roms, kernels, everything. Have the instructions to flash. Have a table with all the roms, their versions, what versions of kernels, modems, etc, they do ( or dont ) work with. maybe even some of the table cells are clickable, for instance bugs, click on it and a window pops up with a list of them.
I know all this information is in here somewhere. Thanks to everyone for it, but it needs to be on 1 page. Please make it easier for people who are new to this. You will benefit as well as them. Looking forward to being able to use voice dialing. I think it will be working by tomorrow or after tomorrow thanks to you guys. I could have done it in a day if all the information was right there .
Thanks for reading.
Try searching.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=Samsung_Galaxy_S/SGH-I897
I have that bookmarked. It is also a sticky in this section.
But it doesn't say for instance which ones are 2.2.1, or which ones have the terrible voice dialing over bluetooth..
I do search and end up with over 15 tabs...
I am getting by, I am just saying it could be organized better for everyones benefit. It could be made so someone who has never done this before can get it done in a couple of hours if even, without keeping asking you the same questions here. I understand why people keep asking to recommend a ROM. It is not they they do not search, not all of them anyway. Things can be better organized.
I hear what you're saying, I think it's just that within the course of a month, about 20 ROM's have been released, if not more. And no one has had time to update the wiki.
vunuts said:
I hear what you're saying, I think it's just that within the course of a month, about 20 ROM's have been released, if not more. And no one has had time to update the wiki.
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The thing is that its not just the number of ROMs, but also the number of versions that are released. It would be a real pain and an added overhead for anyone maintaining it.
Also note that most devs are working too, and doing this in their free time. The little time they have to spare is taken up for making improvements. But they do release changelogs to look into.
If anyone has time, I would suggest they take it up to create a wiki and maintain it, rather than relying or asking the devs to do it.
Try capfaq.com it has a ROM table section, and I've used it alot.
Same issues with being 100% up to date, but it's the best Rom table format I've seen.
i897 running Cognition 3.02
Madtowndave said:
Try capfaq.com it has a ROM table section, and I've used it alot.
Same issues with being 100% up to date, but it's the best Rom table format I've seen.
i897 running Cognition 3.02
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http://www.capfaq.com/w/ROM_Table
Looks like they have updated it!
Thanks guys, I will check that table out tomorrow.
It'd be nice if there was a modem chart as well. I know there are modems in the modem thread
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=835272
...but near as I can tell it's not up to date, or at least the first page is not up to date (ie base Cognition runs on JL1 and Andromeda on JL2, but aren't on the first page).
If anyone knows a good and current modem reference guide, please let me know.
I can't complain too much because obviously things change all the time and it's a PITA to constantly update info...I'd volunteer but I got a 2 year old and baby 2.0 due in April.
Madtowndave said:
baby 2.0 due in April
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made me lol at the versioning of baby
diablo009 said:
made me lol at the versioning of baby
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Yeah it's like Richter Scale difference at least 0 to 1, and 1 to 2 kids...people that have more than 2 are either really bad at birth control, Catholic, or gluttons for punishment.
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I want you to know tho that its very hard when you have a baby, and very little time. I also want you to know that the only times I am really productive getting somewhere with my phone is staying up till like 4 am because everyone is asleep and I have the time needed to dedicate to all this reading, trying and learning.
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And I thought I was the only one!
Thanks pal for making my day...
Sent from my SGH-I897 using XDA App
I bricked my phone
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I bricked my phone
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How? What happened?
I have no Idea what I did wrong, my goal before I started was getting voice dial over bluetooth working for me, its essential to me. It started with trying to install paragon, as per http://www.capfaq.com/w/ROM_Table mentioned above.
I was stock rogers 2.2 so I wiped it clean, and tried the update thing, it didnt work. The only step I skipped was flash to stock and the master clear since it was 2.2 recently and I did the factory wipe. It did not work but I did not brick anything just yet. I figured most people tell you to flash with the one click odin which puts stock at&t on it. I did that and the phone stopped going into download and recovery, it did not stop completely i have gone into download and recovery a few times after that but it was a battle with my phone, since it was booting, I used adt instead which worked like a charm. at&t rom was not happy on my phone, it was going into at&t reboot loops where it would just reboot the bios over and over. after trying and trying it would boot android, i was trying to fix it but each time it restarted the reboot loop would kick off. I could not go to recovery or download mode till i finally got back into the OS and used adt to tell it to go to download mode where i reflashed my stock rogers.
My phone now had at&t logo on boot before rogers, which is not that bad but i had read you can get rid of it, i tried going into download mode with the buttons but didnt try too hard, adt was easier.
I was following these instructions :
http://www.mmacleod.ca/blog/2011/01/removing-the-att-boot-screen-from-a-samsung-captivate/
it wanted me to use odin to flash a file. I used my oden 1.3, i think he says oden 1.0, I didn't think it would make a difference.
Odin started to flash and said fail. I got the screen with "android ! computer", I have been there before when I first ever tried using odin and had to fight with my phone to get to download mode at the time ( this was before at&t ever came close to the phone, i never used odin before so i probably had trouble because of inexperience ).
anyway, this time no matter what I do I cannot go to download mode, I plan on making a jig today if i find someone who sells resistors in this little town.
any help would be appreciated. I dont want to put any more roms on my phone, i just want it to work. I am worried. Ill wait till samsung releases 2.2.1 I just want my phone back to the way it was when I bought it
As the person who write most of the documentation for Team Komin (the developers who make Andromeda), I would say this would be an immense pain. copying all of our information from the website, formatting it into wiki form and then posting it would be very time consuming.
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As the person who write most of the documentation for Team Komin (the developers who make Andromeda), I would say this would be an immense pain. copying all of our information from the website, formatting it into wiki form and then posting it would be very time consuming.
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True, but once done, it would be much easier to maintain and navigate. There is going to be a lot of crossposting and people asking for insight and advice.
I'm sure we all understand the search feature in the forum, but to be honest things change topic within a thread, and where someone asks a question that is somewhat unrelated and gets a very good answer, it is not always apparent by poking through page after page of posts to find that nugget of gold. I mean, searching for 'kernel' will give literally thousands of hits. A wiki would be much better in terms of 1. Where you are starting out from 2. what you need to do what you want 3. where to find these things, and 4. maintaining updates and version revisions.
I really appreciate all the work people do here, and I have had to find everything I wanted to know the 'hard' way, but as Android grows in popularity and market percentage, more and more people are going to come here looking for this information. Pobably better to do it sooner than later.