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I use jabra and if I have the phone in my pocket, the sound gets tons of static, my a2dp headset tends to skip when the phone is in my pocket, out of the pocket it works perfectly, if I put the phone behind me, thus my body is in between the headset and the phone, i also get tons of static even though the distance is 20 inches.
I tested my 3125 smartphone against the Touch cruise and the 3125 range was three times farther then the touch cruse. Back to mobileplanet this heap of **** goes.
Tupac_Shakur said:
I use jabra and if I have the phone in my pocket, the sound gets tons of static, my a2dp headset tends to skip when the phone is in my pocket, out of the pocket it works perfectly, if I put the phone behind me, thus my body is in between the headset and the phone, i also get tons of static even though the distance is 20 inches.
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The radio stack on the test ROM makes a HUGE difference
I have the same issue even with the new radio--bluetooth strength much weaker than my old trinity. Wonder if there is a registry setting to boost the signal?
this phone is brutal, with 3g and bluetooth on, I drop calls like no tommorrow,it seems when driving it is even worse. I seen it where it has perfect signal and for no apparent reason, it drops the call. It just gives me three faint beeps when it disconnects. I don't know what it means, also these phones are not assembled well. this sucks for 700 dollar phone, I did try the new radio also, it didn't make no difference other then I didn't get disconnected on 3g as much but bluetooth still sucked, my 3125 I measured again has 3 times the range,just having your hand in between the phone and the headset gets you lot of static on the headset. I sent mine back today. Bluetooth is critical to me,I figure HTC would at least get the bluetooth right but I guess they are a mess right now with all their issues. Hoping to get hp 614 instead.
I am using the Jabra BT3030, works like a charm. This is with the default rom.
Plantronics Explorer 510 here. Absolutely perfect sound.
Parrot MK6100 car HF set. Crap, thin sound reported on the other side. Low volume.
To be more specific- both sony ds200 and itech r35 have good sound, no static but the range is very poor and easily blocked by a human body. The sony sound is much better probably because its bluetooth 2 with a better data rate. The a2dp (only with the sony) needs the "a2dp fix" and a fresh reboot before using in order not to have the drop outs. All told, not much different than with my trinity but with less range. Very disappointing considering price and another year to perfect the system. HTC really does need to work on the drivers and software before selling the device. The average user is not going to go to all this trouble and will be very letdown.
I just got a brand new crusie and I love this thing. I had a Tilt, then the origianl 3450 Touch and now the crusie.
I've got it all set up and it seems to be working great on my AT&T network. modded someof my setting with cabs/ htc customiser.
The only problem that is KILLING me is the bluetooth performance is HORRIBLE. Both with my Motorola stereo S9 headset and my Jabra XJ10. The stereo moto set break in and out if I move a little or put the phone in my pocket. If it's right next to me not moving it's ok. If i run with it in my pocket, NO chance!
The regular jabra works ok with the TC right next to me as well, but if I walk even 15 feet away it just breaks up.
Both of these worked GREAT on my touch?
I remember when I had my Tilt there was a reg edit and an option in the Kaiser tweak for bluetooth performance. Has anyone had any problems with BT performance?? Any way I can Fix this????
Also, I'm either in E, G or H. Att here in chicago has a huge 3G network that supports HSPDA. I assume E is edge. Is G 3G or GPRS?? When my TC is in H is that the 3G or HSPDA? I don't see a 3G symbol?
I really an very impressed with the crusie, but REALLY need to figure out the BT issue as I use my jabra and moto S9 EVERYDAY...
Any help would be highly appreciated!!
You have installed the bluetooth hot fixes from htc.com?
I installed both the BT hot fix cabs.. The problems in the hot fixes (when the device goes into sleep mode) etc is not what I am experiencing but I tried them anyhow.
If I remember in the kaiser tweak there was some setting for bluetooth band width for performance?? Can we use the kaiser tweak with the TC? I assume not.
Is there a value in the reg that can be editing for this???
thanks again
FYI -- I have the same issue with my S9's. They worked great with my Touch, my Shadow, and my Dash but they work awful with the Touch Cruise. You pretty much have to hold the device up, near your head, to get a constant connection. My Plantronic 855's work fine though. Given that it's S9-specific, I don't think you'll find a registry tweak to fix it, though I could be wrong. If I had to guess, I'd say it's something that needs fixing with the S9's, not the Cruise -- wish they'd made them firmware upgradeable
Fixing Polaris choppy bluetooth stereo
I am using an O2 XDA Orbit 2 which is the UK O2 networks variant of the Polaris/Touch Cruise. I experienced the exact same problem with choppy stereo bluetooth sound on a pair of Sony Ericsson HBH-DS970 headphones (which performed perfectly with my original HTC Touch). I performed the following registry tweaks and this seemed to improve performance significantly:
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Bluetooth\A2DP\Settings :
Name: UseJointStereo
Value (DWORD): 1
Delete these two key/values
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Bluetooth\A2DP\Settings:
- BitPool
- MaxSupportedBitPool
I will give that a shot and I'll let you know.. What is the bit pool and the max??
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Under my settings, the use jointstereo DWORD value is already 1? what was yours?
should I still delete maxsupported and bitpool completely? any idea of what those do??
You want to turn joint stereo off, and that would be changing the number from a 1 to a 0. That won't help with distance, but it will improve the sound quality considerably. It's pretty much the same with any WinMo device -- for some reason joint stereo is turned on as a default. I returned a lot of stereo bluetooth headphones before I found this setting. I thought they were all crap, turned out to be the setting. If you Google 'bluetooth' 'joint stereo' you'll find info on how the setting degrades sound quality.
It's a shame this is turned on by default, the average user will never be poking around in their registries and wouldn't have a clue as to why stereo bluetooth on their WinMo device sounds so bad.
I've not changed the other settings the post mentioned though, if you do let us know how it worked out. Personally, I've switched to wired earbuds -- the best sound quality of all
Choppy stereo bluetooth fix
miked112007 said:
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Under my settings, the use jointstereo DWORD value is already 1? what was yours?
should I still delete maxsupported and bitpool completely? any idea of what those do??
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UseJointStereo is set to 1 (this was the default setting); I don't actually know what the other two key/value pairs function is. I did some google research on choppy bluetooth stereo sound a while back after purchasing my XDA Orbit 2 and experiencing the terrible bluetooth performance. Apparently, the effect of making the changes I suggested is to improve the overall quality of the audio and reduce the 'choppiness' (intermittent signal connection/disconnections).
Both BitPool and MaxSupportedBitPool should be deleted (i.e. both key name and value) for the full effect of this tweak.
For more information on these registry keys just google BitPool, MaxSupportedBitPool, usejointstereo and polaris (all in the same search query).
I use sony bluetooth dr-bt21g stereo headphone. Installed hotfix and done reg tweaks. If i put my phone in my pocket it breaks up really bad. If i have my phone next me; amazing sound.
i think moral of the story, if ur on a plane or in the house then bluetooth headphones are good. If ur out washing the car, jogging or even walking they are crap so i have to revert back to wired ones
But I'm searching high and low to see if there is a fix for this. I cant believe that the Athena had very decent bluetooth connection. No problems at all. But switching over to Polars, I have to consider giving up my bluetooth headset. That aint good.
Is it an hardware problem? Is it possible the device is to small? I dont know
I hope they fix this!!!!
i dont know! it is bloody annoying when i paid over 50£ for my headphones. I tested in on my imate jamin (now with a2dp) and its the same so i dont think its the cruise. I just think bluetooth has not evolved enough yet, just a thought tho and i will test, wonder if the wifi conection interferes with bluetooth signal?
OOOOOHH.. Good insight timmymarsh. I havent even test thoroughly the wifi.
Good thinking buddy, I'm going to try that...turning off wifi and turning on and see if there is any difference!!!
BTW...thats good to know that it might not be the TC. I read somewhere on the Polaris thread that the bluetooth setting on this phone were suppose to be set up for newer bluetooth earpieces.....I dont know how true that is!!!!
I have never had an issue with bluetooth or wifi on my TC But I never have both on at once, If I am using bluetooth, wifi is turned off and vice versa. In the past I have had really big issues using lets say ericcson phones with moto headsets but if I upgraded the headset to the latest firmware they worked fine. I really do think that the issue is the headset and not the phone.
mm i really should learn not to post after drinking wine hence removed
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timmymarsh said:
Bizzare test....
I havent tested properly turning wifi off when bluetooth headset on yet, but yesterday i was washing my car in trousers that had no pockets, so i stuck my phone down my pants against my ass (ha ha). Reception was brilliant when i was moving around; previously when i had put my device in my trouser pocket the reception was terrible. I guess my body was acting as an ariel extending or improving the bluetooth signal hence the good reception.
Extreme i know, but at least you next have a valid excuse when someone says "is that something in your pocket or are you just pleased to see me......."
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I did eventually test the bluetooth signal and quality with both wifi on and off and both my polaris and prophet.
With wifi on the signal was terrible when deivce was in my pocket, with wifi switched off the signal was good. The signal only started breaking up when with wifi was swtiched on and searching for an access point.
I now only use a2dp with wifi switched off. Im a happy bunny. btw my prophet never signal never broke once when jigging around the room, my polaris did a lil bit even with the wifi off, but there was a marked difference!!
Glad that worked out for you. For me, WiFi had no effect at all, on or off, the signal with S9's are just as bad and the Plantronic 855's just as good.
timmymarsh said:
I did eventually test the bluetooth signal and quality with both wifi on and off and both my polaris and prophet.
With wifi on the signal was terrible when deivce was in my pocket, with wifi switched off the signal was good. The signal only started breaking up when with wifi was swtiched on and searching for an access point.
I now only use a2dp with wifi switched off. Im a happy bunny. btw my prophet never signal never broke once when jigging around the room, my polaris did a lil bit even with the wifi off, but there was a marked difference!!
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Hi,
Finally I've managed to get one of those phones - as a replacement for my Exec (best phone EVER! IMHO) and here I am!
I really want to change ROM ASAP but I might have a problem with hardware so want to check that first before doing HardSPL
- is your speaker really quiet? To the point that you can't hear TT/hands free?
- while playing teeter does your back cover gets hot? (in area of the speaker, battery is cold)
- sometimes no sound while playing teeter (possibly other games but haven't tested that yet)
- can you hear "gsm noise" every so often from that speaker? (don't know how to describe it, basically same noise as from other speakers when phone is connecting to the GSM BTS)
I'm still using Official UK O2 rom
many thanks for your help!
Cheers
Chris
XDA Serra
Hello!
columb, I have had my XDA Serra for just over a month now, with changing of the ROM, I'm not sure if its entirely necessary unless you need the standard one for a particular reason! I do recommend downloading the youtube App and quick gps patch from o2 if you want to use gps. I use copilot live 7 and its really good, fab phone! I upgraded from a XDA II so quite a jump, similar to the exec not quite as good tho!
With regard to your problems, I'v checked these with my friend who has a HTC Touch Diamond, (the non o2 keyboard-less version) and his is the same.
- My speaker is not the loudest in the world but still very audible
- The phone gets warm on the back when doing anything intensive, not to surprising considering the processing power/graphics of the phone, and after combing the manual found that o2 say that it is completely normal, just warm not hot.
- I always get sound with teeter unless system volume turned down ( obviously) so not sure about that one (be aware system volume is still separate to ring volume as on previous windows mobile)
- I don't get any GSM interference with the phones internal audio on any channel, not sure about that one again. There may be problem with your internal speaker.
The O2 rom isn't that bad, I'v compared it with the HTC rom seems to be just as responsive, if perhaps not quite as good looking.
Hope thats been some help!
Regards
Ed
Compaq Ipaq
XDA II
XDA Serra
I am also using Serra.
speaker is not loud but it is acceptable for TT with voice.
try search "audioparam3.csv" in the forum you may get louder volume.
And I saw a thread in the forum cut backcover of the phone to make it louder and sweeter.
EXEC has two (or three?) speakers and it is very chunky so it has excellent stereo sound quality. However I couldn't imagine how to use it as a phone. It looks like a laptop or a brick.
I feel that most customized ROMs here are better than O2 one and you can always burn it back to original ROM anyway.
backcover does hot sometimes. I guess that is RF Radio module near tweeter area
Same problem
not sure if it helps but i have exactly the same ploblem with my phone.
the digitiser stopped being reponsive so i took mine in for repair. o2 took a month to fix it they did a half asses job and put in a new digitiser bur left the glass laminate which is coming un laminated and has a washing up liquid effect in the middle of the screen.
anyway when they repaired it they also upgraded the software' last night i had to make a call in the car' not having paired it yet with the bluetooth stereo i used the loud speaker. after 10 seconds or so it all went quite. i toggled loud speaker off and on again. it came back for a few seconds and went again.
i also get pops from the speaker occasionally and can here the same gsm noises at the end of calls.
the phone never did it before the rma and software upgrade so its going back.
just thought i would let you know its not just you.
i think some of the earlier hardware has an issue with the latest O2 rom.
Well my pair of fuzes should be arriving on Monday or Tuesday so I'm beginning to wonder about some of the other hardware parts. I keep reading that the FM Radio uses the headset as an Antenna. I have a Hermes and the included abysmal headset that came with that, and I have so little intention of using the one that I'm about to get it might make small children cry, so heres the question of the day:
Does the FM Radio work acceptably without the headset? If not, does it work with an adapter and *REAL* headphones?
Not a deal breaker either way, but it would be cool to know.
Hi, I've a Touch Pro on Vodafone UK flashed with ROMeOS² Italian Rom (just to let you know ). I'm using on it the headset controller that i had with my previous phone, an O2 Stellar (Tytn2) and a Sennheiser CX300. Absolutely no problem, and the sound looking great!
Now on your other questions.FM Radio is not working without headset, so you have to put them in the plug, and then FM Radio program will start. Otherwise, if for you is a problem having headset inserted in the phone, you can buy an headset controller (on ebay have a really low price!).
About the headset quality, I had before of Touch Pro, a tytn and a tytn2, and can confirm that the quality is the same, so I never used those!
PS: sorry for my english, I hope you undertand what I'm saying!
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Hi, I've a Touch Pro on Vodafone UK flashed with ROMeOS² Italian Rom (just to let you know ). I'm using on it the headset controller that i had with my previous phone, an O2 Stellar (Tytn2) and a Sennheiser CX300. Absolutely no problem, and the sound looking great!
Now on your other questions.FM Radio is not working without headset, so you have to put them in the plug, and then FM Radio program will start. Otherwise, if for you is a problem having headset inserted in the phone, you can buy an headset controller (on ebay have a really low price!).
About the headset quality, I had before of Touch Pro, a tytn and a tytn2, and can confirm that the quality is the same, so I never used those!
PS: sorry for my english, I hope you undertand what I'm saying!
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Thanks alot! that actually answers everything.
Dont worry, I've read my fair share of very broken english, you're miles ahead of many people.
I've had trouble getting stations in clearly using a variety of headphones, but it does work.
kgbeezr1 said:
I've had trouble getting stations in clearly using a variety of headphones, but it does work.
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I live fairly close to New York City, so this may in fact be a YMMV. How far off are most of your radio stations?
better then the diamonds radio
Radio program works great for me. It just depends on what kind of area you are in like the poster said a few above me with buildings in NYC. Headphones are ok that I got with my Hermes.
The other route to take of course is streaming radio but that will probably take more battery life than FM.
i DL the one for the fuse and my headset doesnt work as an antenna..... i wonder if i used another phone headset if i could pick up any other radio stations????
is there a cab file for the fm radio?
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is there a cab file for the fm radio?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=116132&d=1222374257
I recently was passing by Phoenix AZ and picked up an FM station when I was about 150 miles away and held it until I was 150 mile past Phoenix. Maybe the conditions were just perfect, maybe my headphones are a very effective antenna but whatever the reason, I was impressed with the performance.
Pat
It works great, you need a adapter for your headphone though. It comes with the phone.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykBhbiOg1mY
Here's how it look, my fuze
Patrick Reily said:
I recently was passing by Phoenix AZ and picked up an FM station when I was about 150 miles away and held it until I was 150 mile past Phoenix. Maybe the conditions were just perfect, maybe my headphones are a very effective antenna but whatever the reason, I was impressed with the performance.
Pat
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same thing here. i live on the outer edge of houston and can barely get my 2 favorite stations with my car but with my fuze its loud and clear full signal. ive been thinking of ways of hooking my phone into my car just for fm radio. poor iphone users dont know what they are missing.
Got my Fuze, Loving the hell out of this thing but the FM Radio isnt quite what I had hoped. Its not awful, its just not great either. Oh well.
dieKatze88 said:
Got my Fuze, Loving the hell out of this thing but the FM Radio isnt quite what I had hoped. Its not awful, its just not great either. Oh well.
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whats wrong with it? fm radio isnt the most expansive tool. i use musicid with it and make lists of music i want to download. ^_^
gezzy said:
...FM Radio is not working without headset...
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Strictly speaking that's not true - mine works fine on 'speaker mode' with just one of these in it.
I use some retractable ear buds (also from ebay) & it works fine. I get a good signal on most UK stations of note.
I also stream world radio from the links posted here here, which is fine for talk radio even at GPRS "2 bar" speeds using Windows Media Player and in comparison of course, the FM player is much better.
Hello all,
I've been searching around a bit, but didn't find any helpful threads. so I'll start a new one.
I noticed a few days back that people have trouble hearing me when I'm calling them. I sound very far away. I think it has to do with the noise cancellation on the back, because when i take of the back of the cellphone, the microphone works normal, or at least much better... very weird.
I already checked for dirt or dust in the little holes in the back .. but found nothing. Already tried pulling out the battery 30 sec, Hard-reset, latest updates, ... but nothing seems to work. is it possible to turn off the noise cancellation? Any suggestions?
oh btw, i don't do Wifi calling, so i use the normal gsm network.
oh yeah, one more thing, The mic seems to work fine if i use it to record a video with the camera.