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Camera App for WM5 on Himalaya?

Now that we have a working implementation of ArcSoft MMS for the Himalaya, is there any chance of bringing the camera application over from a Universal? I understand that the camera hardware is different, but I presume the application works through some sort of device driver, which we obviously already have on the Himalaya WM5.
Alternatively, has anyone managed to get the camera app from WM2003SE working under WM5?
Now the MMS issue has been solved, this is the only other major reason remaining for my not upgrading. I already upgraded once, but the lack of support from the major software I use and these other two issues meant that the upgrade effectively crippled my device. Now software support is starting to trickle through, it's just these core applications which need solving.
WARNING! DO NOT INSTALL THE 'Camera2K5.cab' FILE POSTED BELOW BY johnney ON HIMALAYA DEVICES. IT WILL LOCK UP YOUR DEVICE! THE POSTER OF THIS FILE MISUNDERSTOOD THE QUESTION!

well if it's not a general device driver then you cant use it
much like if you have a ati graphic card on your pc you cant use a nvidia driver

If you re-read my post, I wasn't suggesting the use of another driver for the camera, but rather the use of the one which is already there. I said the camera software probably interfaced with the camera through a device driver, so theoretically the software should be hardware independant.

grayhaze said:
If you re-read my post, I wasn't suggesting the use of another driver for the camera, but rather the use of the one which is already there. I said the camera software probably interfaced with the camera through a device driver, so theoretically the software should be hardware independant.
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Thry this patch!

Can anyone confirm that this patch works on a Himalaya? I thought it was intended for a BlueAngel...?

WARNING............
DO NOT INSTALL THE CAMERA PATCH....
It just locked up my device completely....
had to hard reset it

I hate you sooooo much dude!!!!!!!
3 hours of my life wasted starting now
SICK SICK SICK!!!!
All my data lost, holy crap
:evil:
San

Johnney you are a savior! My BlueAngel's cam is working on WM5!!!!!
Excellent Job! Thanks m8

Can someone please remove that file from download before other Himalaya users mess up their devices? I was quite clear in my original post, and this guy obviously didn't test the file himself before urging others to use it. :x

This file works with Blue Angel! So let the file there for other BA users to get it! Just change the title to BA Camera Patch

As the original question related to a fix for the camera on Himalaya devices, I don't really see the point in changing the thread to a BlueAngel one, other than to further confuse people.
By all means start another thread with this information for BlueAngel owners, but in the meantime we're still looking for a fix for the Himalaya.

...???...
Few minutes ago I've tried this patch(I was ready for hard reset). This are my experiences:
-it DIDN'T lock my device!
-it disables the camera totally. That means no capturing interface,only album available.
...that means: It is for Himalaya with BuzzROM 1.60a unuseful.
Any ideas about camera in Himalaya yet?

Buzz can fix the camera issue, I assume he doesnt have time to do it at the moment

Himalaya Camera Patch
Hey guys, I used the following Patch and now my Himalaya under 1.60c.00WWE ROM has a better video camera.
It records great even at the awsome size of 240x180!!! :roll:
Here it is...
Best regards,
Rayan

Re: Himalaya Camera Patch
Rayan said:
Hey guys, I used the following Patch and now my Himalaya under 1.60c.00WWE ROM has a better video camera.
It records great even at the awsome size of 240x180!!! :roll:
Here it is...
Best regards,
Rayan
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@ Rayan,
It's better quality, at least we know what object we were recording at, lol.. i mean it has clearer output now, but I notice when saving it seems slower. Btw, what did you change, did you increase or decrease some of the value. thanks
regards,
ferioz

@ferioz
First of all, let me say that this patch was not created by me, I found it over at Buzz_Lightyear's website (www.buzzdev.net ).
Yeah, the saving part of the process takes much longer to complete, but (correct me if I'm wrong) I think it's because now we are saving the clip to ROM, not RAM. That is, when recording it caches the video to RAM and then transfers it to ROM or SD which is also slower than normal RAM.
Conclussion, better this than nothing right? :wink:
Peace!
Rayan

Portable Media Center PMC interface for PPC?

does anyone know if a interface like the PMC interface exists for the pocket pc device? i reckon someone could hack or mock the interface on a new media player but its damn impressive if there was one.
heres a video of it in action:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3428996358728158914
it anoys me why microsoft doesnt release this for the ppc. some of us like to listen to our music n videos on our devices too..
the new ZUne device will have this same interface. albeit probably upgraded. imagine if we could have that n transfer our songs via bluetooth/wifi before the zune even comes out haha.

The O2 atom has something fairly similar to that, it's called O2 media plus. Details here. http://www.seeo2.com/product/XdaAtom/template/XdaAtomApplications.vm/n/exclusive
I use it daily and while it is basic enough, it does the job.

cool. can you send that over this way? ftp or megaupload? thnx
whats taht diagnostic thing? if u could upload too that'd be great.

eminem213486 said:
cool. can you send that over this way? ftp or megaupload? thnx
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Erm, I'm a newbie around here. How does one do that exactly?
eminem213486 said:
whats taht diagnostic thing? if u could upload too that'd be great.
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Exactly as it says It runs a whole load of diagnostics on the various bits and bobs on the Atom. I doubt it very much that this would work on non-Atom hardware.

It may not be that easy to port these software to non-Atom unit. As it has been done for O2 Plus and SMS Plus, some sort of hacking are required such that these software can be installed into non-Atom units. Further, as I've noticed on the media-center-interface thing, it has the radio option there, of which a lot of the phones here do not have, of which the interface program may go wanky.
Anyway, it is still feasible, just don't put your hope too high

I'd realy lova a Media Center kind of app...
anything similair on the web somewhere?
couldn't google it.
thnxZ

Keyboard evolution

Guys it's just me or it is a fact that the progress of windows mobile is really slow?
I mean there are several versions of windows mobile, 6.0 got our before 5.0 was even running well enough (not to mention several bugs in 5.0 that were barely fixed) and I wonder: wouldn't it be better to stick to an OS version for a longer period of time and make it run really good?
I won't go into a debate mac vs pc or anything of this kind, but isn't the standard windows mobile interface a bit boring? I like the iPhone for the innovative interface and design only, or another model I've seen m8 from meizu.
Something should change, not just a fancy gradient in the titlebar and the menubar!!!!!
I have a problem with the keyboards too. The MS sip is the same since 2002 pocket pcs!!! And that is really a lot of time of using the same cra.ppy system, and forgive me for overreacting but I think entering texts is a main concern, we all use these devices mainly as communicators or for various information storage that needs to be edited, moved from a location to another an all these actions require user input...
I know there are lots of experienced users on this forum, so this is a call to all of them , I need their suggestions in what would be the best choice for a text-input software for Pocket PCs?
I was using the SPB keyboard for about 2 years now I really like it, it's just that it covers all my text (yeah, I know it's fulscreen ), and I would like to try some similar variants: concern #1 : it must have big keys or it's useless to me.
Thanks for your time, everyone!

I'm using ZTA4 SIP, it's mainly for Chinese input but also can be used for English typing.
Cheers,
Vibranze

thanks, any link for that?

xda-addict said:
Guys it's just me or it is a fact that the progress of windows mobile is really slow?
I mean there are several versions of windows mobile, 6.0 got our before 5.0 was even running well enough (not to mention several bugs in 5.0 that were barely fixed) and I wonder: wouldn't it be better to stick to an OS version for a longer period of time and make it run really good?
I won't go into a debate mac vs pc or anything of this kind, but isn't the standard windows mobile interface a bit boring? I like the iPhone for the innovative interface and design only, or another model I've seen m8 from meizu.
Something should change, not just a fancy gradient in the titlebar and the menubar!!!!!
I have a problem with the keyboards too. The MS sip is the same since 2002 pocket pcs!!! And that is really a lot of time of using the same cra.ppy system, and forgive me for overreacting but I think entering texts is a main concern, we all use these devices mainly as communicators or for various information storage that needs to be edited, moved from a location to another an all these actions require user input...
I know there are lots of experienced users on this forum, so this is a call to all of them , I need their suggestions in what would be the best choice for a text-input software for Pocket PCs?
I was using the SPB keyboard for about 2 years now I really like it, it's just that it covers all my text (yeah, I know it's fulscreen ), and I would like to try some similar variants: concern #1 : it must have big keys or it's useless to me.
Thanks for your time, everyone!
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Try the skinnable Resco keyboard, several options available. See screenshot and download link below.

xda-addict said:
thanks, any link for that?
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I attached here, try it yourself
Instead of choosing the unknown chinese character, you can choose Abc so you will be able to type in English.
Cheers,
Vibranze

hotdog53 said:
Try the skinnable Resco keyboard, several options available. See screenshot and download link below.
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Something happened to screen shot. Here's another one.

hotdog53 said:
Something happened to screen shot. Here's another one.
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Thanks for the post!
Unfortunatelly Resco has too small keys, almost like the default SIP, I can't use it
vibranze I'm gonna try it asap!

vibranze said:
I attached here, try it yourself
Instead of choosing the unknown chinese character, you can choose Abc so you will be able to type in English.
Cheers,
Vibranze
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Vibranze thanks for the efforts but the ZTA4 SIP DOESN'T WORK ON MY DEVICE.
I have attached a screenshot, it loads, but it is unusable. Still it seems to have pretty small keys, but I'm not sure as it doesn't load properly, what could I do?

wow Guys, check this out:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=322441
now this is a keyboard!

xda-addict said:
Vibranze thanks for the efforts but the ZTA4 SIP DOESN'T WORK ON MY DEVICE.
I have attached a screenshot, it loads, but it is unusable. Still it seems to have pretty small keys, but I'm not sure as it doesn't load properly, what could I do?
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Hi,
Attached is the screenshot taken from my device. Altough it's a bit small but if you use stylus it's far far better than the normal keyboard, and some more it's also support keypad typing
Cheers,
Vibranze

A few questions and requests

Hi,
I am quite new to Win Mobile Smartphones, but however I managed to get to a certain point where I started to build my application collection. Unfortunately there are a lot of questions of mine, to which I am not able to find answers, and since this is the biggest community of that kind, which i was able to find (not very easy) i think that it is proper to ask you for your kind assistance , I hope that i would not annoy you. I would try to organize my questions and request as neat as possible. I guess that they would be useful for all HTC Tornado Noobies
1. Please link me to the best Office Suit for the Tornado.
2. I may find quite useful the full version of SK Tools - currently i use a version of the software meant for Pockect PC, it is working, but it actually lacks the feature which arranges the menu in list not a grind ...
3. Skype - I use Fring, but there are too many bugs, unfortunately i did not find a straight forward instruction on how to install skype. I think that IM+ for Skype would do the job, but it is paid .... I need skype for chat only no VoIP intentions.
4. I use Opera Mobile, but if you have came across any better browsing solution - please share it
5. How could i remove anything except the clock, the date and the recently used programs from the home screen, the appointments, messages etc. are quite useless for me.
6. Could i use 4GB SanDisk with the Qtek 8310, and if so would i face any problems.
7.Please share any build quality issues and opinions, which you have experienced, I guess that the weak spots are the Joystics and the screen (it seems so weak to scratches). I am also get quite annoyed by the dust under the screen so please tell would it appear.
Many thanks for the help in advanace!

dddnnnggg said:
Hi,
I am quite new to Win Mobile Smartphones, but however I managed to get to a certain point where I started to build my application collection. Unfortunately there are a lot of questions of mine, to which I am not able to find answers, and since this is the biggest community of that kind, which i was able to find (not very easy) i think that it is proper to ask you for your kind assistance , I hope that i would not annoy you. I would try to organize my questions and request as neat as possible. I guess that they would be useful for all HTC Tornado Noobies
1. Please link me to the best Office Suit for the Tornado.
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>> Microsoft Office Mobile 6.1: http://rapidshare.com/users/6BF82Y
2. I may find quite useful the full version of SK Tools - currently i use a version of the software meant for Pockect PC, it is working, but it actually lacks the feature which arranges the menu in list not a grind ...
3. Skype - I use Fring, but there are too many bugs, unfortunately i did not find a straight forward instruction on how to install skype. I think that IM+ for Skype would do the job, but it is paid .... I need skype for chat only no VoIP intentions.
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>> BUNDLED APPLICATIONS Skype is there
>> I USE PALRINGO FOR CHAT, CHECK OUT THEIR SITE.
4. I use Opera Mobile, but if you have came across any better browsing solution - please share it
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>> I use SKYFIRE sign up, download and try it.
5. How could i remove anything except the clock, the date and the recently used programs from the home screen, the appointments, messages etc. are quite useless for me.
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>> Search for HOME_SCREEN_EDITOR_SMP, you can remove/add/move any standard home screen.(need to play with it)
6. Could i use 4GB SanDisk with the Qtek 8310, and if so would i face any problems.
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>> BIG [[[[[ NO ]]]]] 2GB MAX ON TORNADO'S
7.Please share any build quality issues and opinions, which you have experienced, I guess that the weak spots are the Joystics and the screen (it seems so weak to scratches). I am also get quite annoyed by the dust under the screen so please tell would it appear.
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>> There are many ROMS, each to suit everyones taste. You need to read the threads and pick the one that you feel will work for you.
Many thanks for the help in advanace!
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Best advice, you need to take your time and read the threads. You'll find many answers to your concerns. I've added some options for you. Check above >>

Thank you for the detailed answer to my questions!!!
I would surely try your suggestions, and today i started reading the threads in the Tornado section, but from page 71 towards the present moment... it will take some time
I would highly appreciate some more opinions, i would post mine for the newly downloaded applications, suggested by @markanthonypr. Many thanks once again.

markanthonypr said:
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6. Could i use 4GB SanDisk with the Qtek 8310, and if so would i face any problems.
>> BIG [[[[[ NO ]]]]] 2GB MAX ON TORNADO'S
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I am using a 4GB on my tornado and some people on this forum are also using 4GB. But it should be normal miniSD (non-HCSD).

Make from your pda a webcam

Recentely I was wondering if it was possible to use your windows mobile pda as a webcam. During business trips I always have my mobile with a camera with me. Why buying a webcam...
This is in short how it works (and it is free):
Download mymobiler: http://www.mymobiler.com
Download VH screen capture driver: http://www.hmelyoff.com/index.php?section=8
Start mymobiler and activate your mobile camera
Grab the part of the screen you want with VH screen capture
Now you have a webcam stream which you can use in any program like skype, msn etc..
Look at this video as example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wveANUBUIJM
Instead of using the microsoft remote tool use mymobiler. It is much faster.
PS: You need active sync to communicate with mymobiler

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Thanks for the new thread!!

first time i have seen this method. ty.

I did't find it
orb3000 said:
Old news mate...
there is a thread with this info and more about it
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Could you point out where ? I didn't find it......

thread since 21st July 2008, 06:12 AM
pafke said:
Could you point out where ? I didn't find it......
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Of course:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=410057
And here
http://www.google.com/cse?cx=000825...biler&sa=Search&cof=FORID:0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8
Next time do a search so you can post on that thread instead creating a new one with same topic

pafke said:
Recentely I was wondering if it was possible to use your windows mobile pda as a webcam. During business trips I always have my mobile with a camera with me. Why buying a webcam...
This is in short how it works (and it is free):
Download mymobiler: http://www.mymobiler.com
Download VH screen capture driver: http://www.hmelyoff.com/index.php?section=8
Start mymobiler and activate your mobile camera
Grab the part of the screen you want with VH screen capture
Now you have a webcam stream which you can use in any program like skype, msn etc..
Look at this video as example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wveANUBUIJM
Instead of using the microsoft remote tool use mymobiler. It is much faster.
PS: You need active sync to communicate with mymobiler
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thanks for this thread. this was always something i wanted to do, but was never a big enough of deal for me to remember to search for it. seeing your thread and reading the other linked threads reminded me how cool of an idea this is.

It is easy to say it is old news if one has time to sit around all day long just monitoring what's going on in a website with nothing else to do besides familiarizing oneself with every single item published, every single pda/phone launched on earth.
It is never straightforward to find the right content when one searches. The amount of rubbish one finds is overwhelming. Internet/seach/google, all this is great but it is never that easy to find the right words/sentences to put in a search mechanism, even more so when English is not your first language and the gobbledegook that passes for speech nowadays. It starts for example when you type in dolls in a search because you have girls and want to find gifts and what you get is porn, porn and more porn! Get my meaning. One gets fed up with searching and getting nothing useful.
Besides, other people may have other needs, families to care for, and just a few minutes in hand to spend looking at this great community. Some people may have a life!
Is it that difficult to understand the word solidarity? Or maybe I am in the wrong community? Maybe so! I was hoping not and the big egos could be shelved once in a while. Ou maybe this community is only for, only wants and deserves to be for developers to developers, nothing else.
I too get fed up with people that don't do a bit of leg work first but sometimes, just sometimes somebody can bring something new to the discussion even when cases are old, without reinventing the wheel.
End of rant!

how do you get the camera to show up over mymobiler? I've used mymobiler for a while now but when I turn on the camera (Fuze/Touch Pro) it just shows a blank screen (all black) and same is true with the MS app. It shows me the settings in the camera and the rest of the dialogues but the actually camera image does not show. Any advice is appreciated. Thanks

Screen setting
bugsykoosh said:
how do you get the camera to show up over mymobiler? I've used mymobiler for a while now but when I turn on the camera (Fuze/Touch Pro) it just shows a blank screen (all black) and same is true with the MS app. It shows me the settings in the camera and the rest of the dialogues but the actually camera image does not show. Any advice is appreciated. Thanks
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I realy think it has something to do with the interpretation between your pda screen resolution and the windows screen resolution.
The first thing what comes up is te change your windows screen resolution to for example 16 bit color with 800*600 pixels and see what happends.
You can change your setting in windows by hitting the right mouse button on your desktop. Then choose properties -> Setting.
Pressing F5 in mymobiler could help as well.
This may help as well:
http://www.celiocorp.com/viewer
They can handle more screen resolutions

Hmm, on one mentioned about WebCameraPlus?
http://www.ateksoft.com/webcamplus.html

karhoe said:
Hmm, on one mentioned about WebCameraPlus?
http://www.ateksoft.com/webcamplus.html
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Yes I know this application. It seems to work ok.
I just wanted to share something on this site which is free....
But I think if someone is willing to pay for this software it is a good alternative.

karhoe said:
Hmm, on one mentioned about WebCameraPlus?
http://www.ateksoft.com/webcamplus.html
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yup, it's a much better solution.

orb3000 said:
Of course:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=410057
And here
http://www.google.com/cse?cx=000825...biler&sa=Search&cof=FORID:0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8
Next time do a search so you can post on that thread instead creating a new one with same topic
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Thanks for the link

You can also try VZOmobile application. It can turn your phone into portable camera and video can be recorded remotelly to PC during video call. Unfortunately only Windows Mobile based phones supported for now.

pafke said:
I realy think it has something to do with the interpretation between your pda screen resolution and the windows screen resolution.
The first thing what comes up is te change your windows screen resolution to for example 16 bit color with 800*600 pixels and see what happends.
You can change your setting in windows by hitting the right mouse button on your desktop. Then choose properties -> Setting.
Pressing F5 in mymobiler could help as well.
This may help as well:
http://www.celiocorp.com/viewer
They can handle more screen resolutions
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Not worked on my 838Pro (HTC Hermes, WinMobile5).

You can also try SmartCam http : // sourceforge . net / projects / smartcam
works for WinMo 6.x: bluetooth, Wifi, USB (active sync and ppp_peer as server name).
Enjoy