My mother called me today to tell me her ATT Fuze (running completely stock rom and radio) commited touchscreen suicide. I acted up since the day she got it but it started freaking out badly this afternoon.
Symptoms:
> The phone would call random people in the middle of the night, usually whoever was the last called person during the day it will mysteriously redial at some insane hour of the morning leading to confused call-backs from people going "are you ok? you called but didn't say anything...."
> The phone didn't ring when someone called - people would call her house and say they just left a message on her phone because she didn't answer despite it was sitting there with full bars, never rang, and showed no new voicemail alert until several hours later.
> The Start menu would be stuck in the open position leaving her unable to navigate anywhere on the screen and when that occurred the navi-button would not respond to any directional movement - only clicks to the center.
> The contacts list and calendar randomly opened whenever they felt like it whether or not she touched them or was even near the phone (I've witnessed this happen when no one was within arms reach of the phone and it was just sitting on the kitchen table.
Her device was never dropped, abused, or handled harshly in any way. She took it to her local AT&T store who dismantled it (removed battery, sim, and memory chip) and blew it out with canned air before putting it back together only to have it do the same behaviors all over again with no improvement.
The guy at the counter said "we'll have your replacement tomorrow ma'am" - and that was BEFORE he called into AT&T Warranty Support to get the RMA setup. The Warranty Support person told her that AT&T would send her a brand new replacement unit (not a refurbished unit) via overnight FedEx at their expense, they are giving her 14 business days to get the data/programs/etc... off her current phone and into the new phone and then AT&T will cover FedEx overnight return shipping for the defective handset. They aren't charging her a penny.
Something tells me that some department at AT&T really wants to get their hands on her phone. Maybe there is something they know that they aren't telling us? We're thinking either they pushed some kind of OTA update that failed or they know something is wrong with some of these units that they haven't admitted to the public? I've never heard of them waving all of the replacement fees and providing a brand spanking new device instead of a refurb.... Something smells fishy about their level of urgency for this....
She's bringing her current phone and her laptop to me this coming Saturday so I can sync it one last time, try to install MyMobiler so I can remotely interact with it without futzing with the touch screen, and maybe get most of her stuff off it and into the new one so she can ship it back. I'm going to try and get a complete rom dump too to compare with mine and see if there is anything different between the two. I'll post an update as soon as her and I go over it.
yeah, they treat everyone that way. Unless it comes in a brand new box, then it's a refurb. So don't feel great haha. I'm on my 3rd refurb because ATT is a tool and won't send me a working refurb.
They swore to her that her replacement would be brand new, never opened, still sealed in the box. I'll see if their terminology definition is the same as mine when she brings it over to my place on Saturday for the great data-swap. I'll be sure to post detailed updates. Maybe somehow her problem could answer someone elses issues... we can only hope.
Thats strange man..if my phone started doing that I'd start thinking it was possessed..throw some holy water on it and pray it doesn't short out lol. This is one experience I've had with AT&T over a phone replacement...mind you this wasn't a TP but the process is in no doubt similar.
AT&T (Cingular then) told me over and over again once that a replacement RAZR would be brand spanking new. I ended up getting a refurbished phone twice, both of them weren't working correctly and I sent them both back until I received a brand new phone.
After receiving the refurbished phones and I called them back complaining, they said they "couldn't guarantee" a brand new phone...it was "whatever they had to send off" that they would send off to me. *cough BS cough* But the third time was a charm, working brand new phone. This may not be your case though.
AT&T has always paid for overnight phones with me and paid for return shipping on bad phones. I guess its just their policy or I'm just lucky lol.
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I have just shipped my Touch Cruise back to HTC America RMA for the 4th time! (at my expense!) It all started about a week before Thanksgiving. I could not get the microSD memory card to stay in. The said the "catch" was probably broken, to send it in. It took them a month to "find the part" and return it. I got it back (FedEx Ground) and they had replaced the main board to fix the catch that holds the memory in. The memory now stays in. I can read my eBooks off it. However, the RSS Hub software that comes with the Touch Cruise cannot "find the path" to the microSD memory card. (Options/storage/Move everything off Touch Cruise to Memory Card?) Also, most of the people I talk to on the Touch Cruise now say I sound "garbled". So, I call up a second time for an RMA. They say they will e-mail me a UPS Returns Delivery Label for UPS Ground. After waiting 5 days and several phone calls, still no UPS Returns Delivery Label, I send it back UP Priority Mail. 5 hours after they received my phone a second time, I received the UPS Returns Delivery Label.
They re-flashed the Firmware, made 3 calls , and said "it sounded ok to them". Never checked the RSS Hub software because 1) Does not come with the phone and therefore not their problem. 2) They do not have a microSD memory to test it with. Think about # 1 & 2. I got my phone back, checked it, and called back to HTC America RMA and got the abouve excuse. Sent it back a third time. They gave it a hard re-boot, made their 3 calls and returned it. I called back this time and asked for a supervisor. No luck although they made a note for the supervisor of the "RMA Phone Answering People" to call. Never did. No way to talk to the actual tech's supervisor. I got my 4th RMA # and after waiting for a day and half for the UPS Returns Delivery Label to come, shipped it back US Priority Mail. Any Ideas?
Too Late, The PrePaid RMA Label Comes
6 Days after requesting it, I finally received the PrePaid RMA Label. Unfortunately HTC has already had my Touch Cruise Back (for the 4th Time) for 2 Days and 4+ Hours before they bothered to send the PrePaid Return Label. After waiting a Day and a half, I shipped it back again for the 4th Time, at my expense. When I called yesterday, they did not know they had even gotten it yet and it had been there for more then a Day.
4th Time and they Got it Right (Finally)
I got my Touch Cruise back from HTC America Repair for the 4th time Friday and they finally got it Right. They replaced the mainboard that they had put in to fix "memory chip catch" with a working mainboard. I do not see where they have any type of complete testing or they would have caught the new problems before returning the unit the second time. So far, after 30 hrs of use, it works like new. I only hope they will upgrade things so it will not take 4 returns and 3 months to get it right. I also resent the fact that I had to pay for shipping back to them all 4 times.
Good luck with that... There's a policy (with O2 in the UK) that if the device shows the same problem within 2 weeks after the initial repair the device is replaced.
Reading all the deals that you boys get over the pond sounds like a hard pill to swallow.
They fixed my phone too, but I went through HELL to make it happen. Their customer service SUCKS, as it is almost non-existent.
I do not think HTC Corp trains HTC Am. on TouchCruise
When I spoke to almost anybody at HTC America about my phone they had never seen one in person. The said that NO HTC phones came with RSS Hub. And being that was not supplied from HTC. They were not responsible if it did not work. Even after they re-flashed my phone (one of the few things they did every time) They never noticed that RSS Hub kept coming back. Lucky for me that this second master board they put in fixed everything.
I had to send a broken Nexus One for repair, and they received my phone on June 22nd
On 23rd I received the quote for the cost of repair, and I paid it right away
But since then I have not received anything or any update from them. I have been calling customer service at least once a day to track the status, but all they can say is they are working on it
I mean come on, it's almost 2 weeks now and I don't even get updated once?
One representative told me the average turnaround time for repair is 5-7 business days, I call that BS
Anyone else experienced the same thing recently? Or is it always like that?
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I had to send a broken Nexus One for repair, and they received my phone on June 22nd
On 23rd I received the quote for the cost of repair, and I paid it right away
But since then I have not received anything or any update from them. I have been calling customer service at least once a day to track the status, but all they can say is they are working on it
I mean come on, it's almost 2 weeks now and I don't even get updated once?
One representative told me the average turnaround time for repair is 5-7 business days, I call that BS
Anyone else experienced the same thing recently? Or is it always like that?
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I sent a Blue Angel to them a couple of years ago and had it back in 4 days i guess it boils down to whats wrong and how much work they have and same as you i was not kept informed so thats still the same
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I sent a Blue Angel to them a couple of years ago and had it back in 4 days i guess it boils down to whats wrong and how much work they have and same as you i was not kept informed so thats still the same
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They told me that they need to replace the motherboard and that's it...I'm starting to wonder if anything happened to their system because they said they have been receiving lots of similar calls
I've had nothing but problems with HTC's repair center, I sent in my Kaiser due to several issues. They suggested I send it to them in the original box and needed to give them a credit card so they could charge a fee to diagnose the problem.
Weeks went by and they could not provide a status then one day I get a package delivered with the phone missing the original box and the phone wasn't even packaged for shipping, it was rattling around without even bubble wrap on it.
There wasn't a single note stating what work the performed or if they even charged me. I called and they couldn't tell me anything more than the phone was working within normal guidelines. The D pad was almost falling out the hinges wouldn't keep the phone closed and that was normal.
It's now the 3rd week and I still haven't received my phone
They escalated my case twice but the only thing they can tell me is that the phone is under testing...for the past 2 weeks
What the heck do they need to test for 2 weeks?
I'm going to ask for compensation if it doesn't arrive within this week.
I just got the new desire. The problem i got with the phone is that it discharges electricity and i keep getting zapped by it. So i called up the hotline and was told that i could get a 1 to 1 exchange because it was within 14 days of purchase. So i like a stupid fool brought the phone to the service centre expecting to get it replaced. But that was not the case upon arrival, i was told that it was up to them to decide if they would exchange it. So i had to go back and come again 4 days later as i did not have a spare phone with me. After sending the phone in and waiting for 6 days to get it backthe phone was still giving me problems. So i called up the hotline to find out what was done to the phone. But halfway through the call i had to hang up as i could not stand speaking to that person who could barely speak propper english. I next sent an email to htc. Their reply was that to fix the phone zapping me with electricity was to reflash th ROM. Why the heck would you reflash the ROM for a hardware problem? Now 1 week after getting my phone back i am still trading emails with htc and they can only reply 1 email a day! This is taking forever.
HTC really needs to improve its service centre, helpdesk and email support. This is the last time i am ever getting a htc phone. If you want to see the email conversation between me and htc let me know and i will copy and paste it here.
I don't have a lot of problem with the customer service quality, but I do have lots of problems with the way they communicate between departments
It is now the 20th day since I initiated the repair, and I still don't see the day I would actually get my phone back
I have called the customer service everyday, sometimes multiple times a day, but they have absolutely no way of getting a hold of my phone
Everytime I called, the status of my repair is always "the phone is under final testing". Final test my ass! What the hell are they testing? Some kind of stress test that takes 3 weeks?
They tried to escalate my case but that didn't do sh!t. I tried to contact the repair team directly but guess what they told me, they don't have a phone number!
So what they only do is send email to the repair center about the situation, and I highly doubt they actually check the email at all
I don't know how much I need to wait any longer. What other organization can I contact to help my situation?
Since u got you the google nexus one, have you tried contacting google? Its a long shot but it might work.
I guess you are from the US than if you are not getting **** customer service. I am from asia where english is not the first language of many countries. In singapore where i come from, htc hotline is outsourced to either china or taiwan. You get people who can hardly speak english even if their life depended on it. Mention a few key word and they would reply you like they are reading off a script. Its damn sad that the call centre sucks like this. I never had to deal with the call centre or service center when i was using the touch pro2. Now after this i think i am going to give up on htc and switch to motorola
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Since u got you the google nexus one, have you tried contacting google? Its a long shot but it might work.
I guess you are from the US than if you are not getting **** customer service. I am from asia where english is not the first language of many countries. In singapore where i come from, htc hotline is outsourced to either china or taiwan. You get people who can hardly speak english even if their life depended on it. Mention a few key word and they would reply you like they are reading off a script. Its damn sad that the call centre sucks like this. I never had to deal with the call centre or service center when i was using the touch pro2. Now after this i think i am going to give up on htc and switch to motorola
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yea I live in the US and the representatives on the line are all Americans...
I did try talking to Google...but unfortunately they are only responsible for the sales, so there is very little they can do about repairs
How much did they charge you for the repair. My girlfriend just drop her Droid Inc and the screen crack. I called there repair service to see how much a new screen would be but there closed
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How much did they charge you for the repair. My girlfriend just drop her Droid Inc and the screen crack. I called there repair service to see how much a new screen would be but there closed
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I'm not sure about that...my phone's screen seemed to be fine according to their diagnostic
I think a screen replacement is around USD90?
Things are getting even more ridiculous.
I called 2 days ago on Saturday, and to my surprised they told me that it was finally done with all testing stages and was ready to be shipped.
Delighted, I confirmed with them that I should either receive it on Monday or Tuesday.
This morning I called to obtain a tracking number, and guess what...
IT WENT BACK TO TESTING!
This is in no possible way acceptable. It is already the 4th week since I sent it back for repair, AND THEY ARE STILL TESTING IT! They even pulled it back from the package just to test it again!
WTF is wrong with them? Are they on crack or something? Do they just randomly pick a order, delay the order just to piss the customer off? Because there is absolutely no way to get a hold of them?
Please everyone, I need some advice here.
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Things are getting even more ridiculous.
I called 2 days ago on Saturday, and to my surprised they told me that it was finally done with all testing stages and was ready to be shipped.
Delighted, I confirmed with them that I should either receive it on Monday or Tuesday.
This morning I called to obtain a tracking number, and guess what...
IT WENT BACK TO TESTING!
This is in no possible way acceptable. It is already the 4th week since I sent it back for repair, AND THEY ARE STILL TESTING IT! They even pulled it back from the package just to test it again!
WTF is wrong with them? Are they on crack or something? Do they just randomly pick a order, delay the order just to piss the customer off? Because there is absolutely no way to get a hold of them?
Please everyone, I need some advice here.
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What i did was to go to htc website look for the feedback and ***** about them. After more than a week of trading email they are finally going to send someone to pick up my phone and deliver a loan phone to me. Not sure how this is going to workout this time.
If this is not an appropriate place to make a complaint about a carrier, I apologize and understand if this post is locked, moved, or removed.
I have a Tilt 2 which recently and suddenly began not sending or receiving on its USB port. The phone would charge, but no data would move. In fact, neither the computers nor the phone itself even made notice that a device had been connected. I also noticed the battery discharging abnormally fast. So fast that even with the phone off, the next day, it would not power on. I called AT&T to get the phone replaced as it's less than a year old.
I was put through the ringer, as expected on a first call. I was then forwarded to business tech support where I was met with a seemingly slightly more intelligent person, who obviously had no experience actually using a Windows Mobile device, but had no issue reading from a guided instruction on using a WM6.1 device, for a phone using a WM6.5.
This person then contacted HTC and put me in touch with them, where I got the most intelligent person I'd spoken to all that day (an I work in a call center myself). After software removal and resinstallation as well as option swapping, I was told to take the phone to a store to see if it was both my laptop running Device Center and my desktop running ActiveSync in conjunction with the 4 cables I used, including the stock one, were at fault... I was told if they were, that the phone needed replacement.
Fine.
The next day, I discover the aforementioned battery drain to the point of no power on. I take it to the store, where they are unable to test it as it won't stay on (due to complete discharge), and am instructed to call AT&T's warranty line. I spent the next 12 minutes on the phone with the warranty rep, who, through my description of the problem, decides the best thing to do is to REPLACE THE BATTERY... I asked the rep something to the tune of 'So, are you saying that a failed battery would cause the data port not to work, when the phone is receiving power through the same cable as the data would be going through?'
To which I am replied something like 'Well, sometimes...' at which point I pulled the phone away from my head to avoid screaming at this person. I do not like being treated like an idiot. I have been using WM devices since 2003, and HTC's since 2007. It would be obvious to anyone on these forums that what this phone is doing is a hardware failure. It's been reported multiple times in the Rhodium forum that this is occurring to all forms of the Rhodium.
Anyway, the rep confirmed my information and told me to expect this battery in 2 days. Upon checking the email confirmation, it's an extended battery. Adhesive bandages for broken necks.... Once I got home, I called again and laid out my contempt for this process and negation of the word of the manufacturer. This person connected me to the warranty line and I was greeted by someone who could actually comprehended the problem and did not attempt to point fingers after accusation had been made.
I will be receiving a replacement soon. But I must say, the 2.5 hours spent talking to the collective uninformed reps at AT&T makes me think twice before buying a new device ever again. On the other hand, the singularly knowledgeable rep at HTC was a pleasant surprise. In my line of work (appliances), the relative show of knowledge and comprehension skills far exceeds anything I've encounted in the whole of the company I work for.
Bravo, HTC. Shame on you, AT&T.
Er... could this all have been avoided if you had contacted HTC in the first place? Because that's what your post sounds like. (Just curious!) Or did your warranty only apply though AT&T?
The warranty was through AT&T, per the HTC rep. If there's a manufacturer's warranty as well, I would have much rather went with them.
As a side note to the fiasco, the replacement battery made it to me. I called and was told to keep it.
Here's the best part:
It's an extended battery. The downside? No replacement back cover, so it won't fit in the case... Way to go, AT&T...
Your story is one of the reasons I found myself moving to Big Red last year. My TP2 (RHOD500) has not seen any of the issues mentioned here.
If you want to read about my "adventure" in AT&T-land, check out this thread from my Tilt days.
I always want to know how are HTC's service in other country.
As a Taiwanese I know service in my country is very important for
any minor or major company to be able to survive in Taiwanese market.
Few days ago I have drop my HTC onto the floor and the screen was damage (Still
working but there were black dot on the screen) and I have phone HTC and they
arrange someone to pick it up from me and that same day in the afternoon the
Service center phone me and told me the screen was damage due to dropping the
phone onto the floor (At this point I was thinking them going to charge me for
replacing the screen and I was ready to accept any fees which them offer me)
and once them have explain the problem them told me the phone will be fix and
delivery to me the next day and I should expect the phone to arrive before afternoon. I was wondering when will them told me about the price for fixing the screen and they seems like not bother mentioned it so I ask the caller. Their respond was it's ok, we not going to charge you anything as long as you are happy about our product and service and that is the most important part. After I hang up the phone I still not sure is this true or not.
At that moment after the phone arrive. I believe what the repair center told me and kept on thinking of all those year living in South Africa. Never have any company who act so fast and fix the problem so quick with out charging you anything.
So I just want to know how many people also find their service good and how many people think it's rubbish and also from which country as well.
i had to wait for my device for 4 weeks, also a screen replacement...hmm
The camera on my Desire died so I ended up having to send it to HTC.
I had it back within 2 weeks, which was pretty fast I thought.
Had the dreaded random reboot on my Desire. Sent it to the repair centre in UK. Returned within 7 days with a new Mobo. Excellent service.
Much faster to do yourself easy replacement.
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i had to wait for my device for 4 weeks, also a screen replacement...hmm
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i had my device for screen replacement done by 2 week in Singapore..
I understand this is not the most appropriate place to post this, but I'm sure many of you have experienced the Samsung Repair Service Centre (I would post this in a Samsung sub-forum but I couldn't find one) and you will be able to give me some advice.
So, if you want the whole story of how my phone got broke, read this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...5#post28416155
In short, I completely broke my Samsung Galaxy Ace plus the day after I took it out of the box. It's seemingly 100% bricked (literally no sign of life, no lights no screen no sound, nothing).
I phoned Samsung up a couple days later (after nobody replied to my emails) and I organised it to be repaired.
It's been 11 days since I sent it back.
I phoned on the 7th day to ask if it had even got there because there were no updates on my samsung product repair status page since the day I first phoned them up. I also asked if the address I was given was right (Just put on envelope "FREEPOST SAMAN REP", that was it) because it sounded invalid.
I gave them the IMEI and was told that it had reached them. I said thank you and goodbye.
Yesterday, my product repair status had finally updated to : Cancelled by ASC Non Defect (Working properly)
I rang up again.
I was on the phone for 10 minutes with this guy and he told me that they had no record of my phone arriving. He handed me on to his supervisor who I spoke to for a further 20 minutes.
She confirmed that it had not reached them yet or it had been improperly logged or it was lost in the mail.
I sent her a copy of my proof of postage through email in case it was the latter, so they could "organize something for me if it comes to the worst case scenario"
Knowing their reply rate to my emails, I doubt they'll even see it.
So, I sent off my broken phone to them like they told me to, and now they've lost it... or the address they gave me was indeed wrong like I originally expected, however it has not been sent to the return address after 10 days. I doubt the Post Office is at any fault here.
I understand how at the beginning of this mess I was at fault. I made my phone faulty through my own carelessness...
However, since then I feel like there's been an awful lot more Samsung carelessness. And it sounds like if they don't find my phone they won't even replace it, otherwise the woman over the phone wouldn't have been so ambiguous. The way she said it I expected nothing more than book voucher in return for all my trouble and their incompetence.
It's very troubling to think that my £166 may have only bought me just 1 day of pleasure and many weeks of distress.
Anyway, I'm hoping I can make the best out of a bad situation.
I have very little respect for these types of companies, and I have no problem in wrangling out a few pounds from them when they have wronged me. If this doesn't get resolved soon, I'm very tempted to go to Samsung UK directly and ask politely but firmly for a little compensation for all this crap. Maybe one of those Galaxy S3s.
Me and my Dad have been able to get similar compensations for bad service through a letter and a phone call before.
Maybe I can do something similar here.
Does anybody have any helpful advice?
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I recently bricked my S3, I thought all was lost as it was my fault. I fond mobile tech videos, sent it to them back within 5 days of them getting it, updates as to status from them. I am very happy with their service.