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New polaris, not that impressed (ex wizard)

Hi , got my new orbit 2 (polaris) the other day and im not that impressed by it as yet.
I came from using my trusty vario(wizard) and it doesnt seem (as yet) much quicker than that.
I know it has built in gps, radio etc. But i cant put me finger on it why it hasnt impressed me much. i played a bit of video on it and it was a bit jumpy, also scroll is a bit iffy.
Can anyone enlighten me as to what it can do and do better than my old phone?
Or what to use to make it a pleasure to use.
Thanks.

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Stu308 said:
Hi , got my new orbit 2 (polaris) the other day and im not that impressed by it as yet.
I came from using my trusty vario(wizard) and it doesnt seem (as yet) much quicker than that.
I know it has built in gps, radio etc. But i cant put me finger on it why it hasnt impressed me much. i played a bit of video on it and it was a bit jumpy, also scroll is a bit iffy.
Can anyone enlighten me as to what it can do and do better than my old phone?
Or what to use to make it a pleasure to use.
Thanks.
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Believe me..it could be one of most impressif pocketphone's out there..but the only problem with this device is that HTC didn't do there homework that good and put this device to soon on the market.
But when the new firmware (with drivers) come's online it will be one of the finest pocketphone's out there at the moment.
The only think for us is to pray that HTC will make the firmware with the drivers, otherwise it will go into be books as a slow and bad preforming device 4-ever and HTC will loose a lot of trusty customers!
But like the other also said..it's being sad in a lot off topics now..so lets use the other threads for the complenning

i agree. i bought mine a week ago. the touch cruise and i am not that impress coming from a tmobile mda aka wizard. i still use my wizard. love it but cruise slow. internet is slow. features are wack. the only good thing is the radio but i dnt listen to radio and tomtom navigation. i live in nyc i use the subway so not that usefull to me. htc better come good or its apple for me.

dortyboy said:
htc better come good or its apple for me.
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This is exactly what I'm thinking...HTC really messed this wicked phone up....Gonna wait for the Xperia or Samsung i900.

You aren't getting drivers for it. You are getting a software patch that helps fix a few things like scrolling and some basic touch screen functionality, nothing to do with video.
unfortunately, if you want to watch movies you have to convert them yourself and spend the time doing it, then you can have some fun with high quality movies or shows.
i will think twice before I buy my next handset. I don't expect the most amazing device in the world, but I don't like to be mislead in advertising.

Funny, I find my Cruise does everything I ask of it. I find it an improvement in almost every way over the KJAM (OC'ed to 247mhz), and the Treo 750.

Can someone give me some links to help please? Thanks.

JNGold said:
Funny, I find my Cruise does everything I ask of it. I find it an improvement in almost every way over the KJAM (OC'ed to 247mhz), and the Treo 750.
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How is your cruise setup?
I've just installed Coreplayer .....runs pathetic....picture hardly moves when running a 480MB avi.
Camera...you can forget that....never seen such rubbish...I'm sure the image quality is good...nobody should have to wait that long to take a picture.
I have a UK O2 Orbit 2....got rid of the O2 taskbar icon (after reading it was a memory hogger).
Installed :
HTC Home Screen...
HTC Theme (black) tsk file 102KB vs 200+KB for the 02 Theme.
Skype
Core Player 1.1.1
Opera 9.33
OTO
Calculator skin
WMP Skin
Advanced Configuration
PocketCM Keyboard (one of the best touch apps....never knew I could touch type that fast)
I for one am willing help in what it takes to have this phone running to at least 2/3 of its potential. Compared to my friend's Hermes...thats faster....got suckered into touch and WM6 Pro....
Where as touch v1 is a decent attempt (O2 just messed it up) I'm sure V2 only get better...Microsoft really need to integrate touch into the OS..(whats with the small up arrow next to keyboard selection on the taskbar...with so much empty space around it?....saving on real estate ?).
To me this OS looks/feels the same as the one I had on my SPV C500 years ago...(have you seen the WM6 original calculator !) 3rd party can only do so much.
Well I think HTC better watch out....to sell an expensive phone half finished...well what you say...advertising SOLD IT. But theres a few phones coming out soon and if they utilize the hardware and have half decent software then HTC will have to up the ante...should be interesting.
At the moment we will have to wait for what improvements HTC brings to this COOL LOOKING phone.
Sorry...I'm just a bit disapointed.

pistonripper said:
How is your cruise setup?
I've just installed Coreplayer .....runs pathetic....picture hardly moves when running a 480MB avi.
Camera...you can forget that....never seen such rubbish...I'm sure the image quality is good...nobody should have to wait that long to take a picture.
I have a UK O2 Orbit 2....got rid of the O2 taskbar icon (after reading it was a memory hogger).
Installed :
HTC Home Screen...
HTC Theme (black) tsk file 102KB vs 200+KB for the 02 Theme.
Skype
Core Player 1.1.1
Opera 9.33
OTO
Calculator skin
WMP Skin
Advanced Configuration
PocketCM Keyboard (one of the best touch apps....never knew I could touch type that fast)
I for one am willing help in what it takes to have this phone running to at least 2/3 of its potential. Compared to my friend's Hermes...thats faster....got suckered into touch and WM6 Pro....
Where as touch v1 is a decent attempt (O2 just messed it up) I'm sure V2 only get better...Microsoft really need to integrate touch into the OS..(whats with the small up arrow next to keyboard selection on the taskbar...with so much empty space around it?....saving on real estate ?).
To me this OS looks/feels the same as the one I had on my SPV C500 years ago...(have you seen the WM6 original calculator !) 3rd party can only do so much.
Well I think HTC better watch out....to sell an expensive phone half finished...well what you say...advertising SOLD IT. But theres a few phones coming out soon and if they utilize the hardware and have half decent software then HTC will have to up the ante...should be interesting.
At the moment we will have to wait for what improvements HTC brings to this COOL LOOKING phone.
Sorry...I'm just a bit disapointed.
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we have 2 differents polaris , mine is the all time better pocketpc (I owned all the precedent)

Aww, no one being much help to me here. Come on guys give us a clue.
Don't know whether to swap it for a Kaiser/stellar instead????

pistonripper said:
How is your cruise setup?
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Mine is setup like everyone else. I have done all the performance hacks I know of (WM Cache, GlypheCache set to 64K, etc). I have over 25 applications installed.
I've just installed Coreplayer .....runs pathetic....picture hardly moves when running a 480MB avi.
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Coreplayer just released 1.2 which performs much better on the TC. Also, I have encoded many of my vids for PPC viewing since I have owned nothing but WM devices for many years now.
Camera...you can forget that....never seen such rubbish...I'm sure the image quality is good...nobody should have to wait that long to take a picture.
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Disable the shutter sound, it helps.
I for one am willing help in what it takes to have this phone running to at least 2/3 of its To me this OS looks/feels the same as the one I had on my SPV C500 years ago.
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Welcome to the world of Windows Mobile. However, the inclusion of Touch Flo is probably the most unique WM experience offered by a WM device.
..(have you seen the WM6 original calculator !) 3rd party can only do so much.
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Install the HTC Calculator.
Well I think HTC better watch out....to sell an expensive phone half finished...well what you say...advertising SOLD IT. But theres a few phones coming out soon and if they utilize the hardware and have half decent software then HTC will have to up the ante...should be interesting.
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Aside from the video driver issues (which BTW hasn't bothered me that much), what software do expect HTC to ship with the device? HTC has done a good job integrating TouchFlo and HTC today into WM. It sounds to me like your complaints software-wise are more directed to MS rather than HTC.

Stu308 said:
Aww, no one being much help to me here. Come on guys give us a clue.
Don't know whether to swap it for a Kaiser/stellar instead????
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Since both devices are the same performance and feature-wise your only decision is whether you require a physical keyboard on the Tytn II.

pistonripper said:
I've just installed Coreplayer .....runs pathetic....picture hardly moves when running a 480MB avi.
Camera...you can forget that....never seen such rubbish...I'm sure the image quality is good...nobody should have to wait that long to take a picture.
I have a UK O2 Orbit 2....got rid of the O2 taskbar icon (after reading it was a memory hogger).
Installed :
HTC Home Screen...
HTC Theme (black) tsk file 102KB vs 200+KB for the 02 Theme.
Skype
Core Player 1.1.1
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I would suggest you installing Core Player 1.2.0

Thanks all...going to install Coreplayer 1.2.0....I did the tweaks, glyph and sound on the shutter..no effect really...maybe I've got a dud....warms up too in my hand....
Also if anyone is running the HTC home screen...which one is it ?...there so many to choose from...
Is there one specifically for the Polaris ?...I've seached and found many versions and variations.

but why does it seem as slow as my wizard? I thought the processor was supposed to be much faster? And the scrolling is finnicky to say the least.

i just downloaded coreplayer 1.3.0. whats so special about core player?

it's the player which supports most formats

I have the Orbit 2, and when I first tried using Internet Explorer I was very disappointed with the extremely slow and jerky scroll, if you could call it 'scroll'. Now that I have managed to install SPB Pocket Plus with the 'Smart Scroll' feature enabled, I'm now happy with that aspect. I haven’t tried video on it yet, but my thoughts now are that I do like the device, especially because of its form factor and looks. Before the Orbit 2 I had the SPV M3100 (Hermes), prior to this I had the SPV C500, and prior to that I had the original windows Smartphone, the Orange SPV.
For me, the Orbit is a step in the right direction, but I will be a little disappointed if video is unusable.

Overall I am happy with my Cruise (I have gotten a sim-free version). Apparently a number of people complain about speed, and I have noticed that this is also related to owners of Cruise who are on the O2 network. My guess is O2 loaded their version with useless software which reduces performance.
Regarding the video issue, I user Coreplayer 1.2 (coreplayer is a must), I encode my videos in QVGA resolution and they seem fine to me. True, you won't be able to take an existing DVD quality rip and expect Cruise to show it well, even in Coreplayer.
Performance-wise, Cruise could probably do a little better given its specs, but overall, I still think it is a very good and practival device.
Hopefully video issue will be addressed, I am not 100% confident it will be fully resolved though. Though the device works fine for me, it is quite upsetting to know that its hardware is not fully utilised...
As my closing statement have a look at the text below, from
gizmodo. com/gadgets/what.s-wrong-with-windows-mobile/whats-wrong-with-windows-mobile-and-how-wm7-and-wm8-are-going-to-fix-it-333536.php
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Microsoft is working to fix the whole WM platform. Here's how:
Even when using a super sluggish WinMo phone, it's less an example of a manufacturer not meeting the minimum requirements for RAM, ROM and CPU power, and more a problem of software which has not been optimized to run on it. This is often the service provider's fault. For example, two phones with the same 400MHz processor can be totally different depending on how much optimization the provider decides to do. When you're using a slow phone, blame the provider.
On the same token, the Windows Mobile OS team actually does set a minimum hardware requirement for the "core" features of the OS to make sure the user experience is a good one, but the minimum-requirement bar may be set too low. When companies add apps on top of the core, things start to wobble. Product manager Derek Snyder told me that Microsoft will raise the bar for minimum requirements to a level where phones can be loaded with more software without slowing down the most basic of tasks (e.g. sliding open the AT&T Tilt from portrait to landscape mode).
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HTC Diamond anyone?

Anyone here going to switch to the HTC Diamond?
http://www.htc.com/europe/product.aspx?id=46638
-The way i see it, the VGA screen is a big plus.
-I'm not at all sold on HTC touch interface..it blows.
-I would miss my keyboard big time.
I probably would not do it. What about you guys?

ummmm wrong forum...and no cuz theres no hardware qwerty

eventually someone here will port the UI to the Kaiser
did it with the cube and touchflo...
learn how to spell KAISER

No memory card slot is a pain to me even though I like the tilt sensor.

I am waiting to see the 8 or 16G memory verion, so far only 4G looks like from stone age )

Ill dump my Kaiser depending on the pricing !!!

Depends on the price.

I'm so sure that one of the ROM-Gurus is gonna make the diamond-GUI available for the KAISER so I don't have to change the phone, I love my TYTN!

i am madly in love with my kaiser and i can't let it go ..

shanetheclassic said:
eventually someone here will port the UI to the Kaiser
did it with the cube and touchflo...
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And that's the only thing I'll pull from the Diamond. I enjoy the qwerty keyboard too much to go with this phone.

not for the diamond but for the Raphel, my Kaiser goes bye bye when the Raphel comes out. Also manilla may not be portable to the kaiser (may not have enough graphical horsepower).

GSM Band
You have to look for USA version,because this phone it will not work in USA network,
check it out..
Europe/Asia: 900/2100 MHz
Up to 384 kbps up-link and 7.2 Mbps down-link speeds
Tri-band GSM/GPRS/EDGE:
Europe/Asia: 900/1800/1900 MHz

I'm just happy there is a poll! What happened to the SE X1? Can someone start a thread about the Diamond and X1 comparisons and add a poll on which one do you want...
O HTC Diamond
O Sony Erickson Xperia X1

I never use the keyboard.
I bought the wrong phone (My Shift already got a keyboard)
The touch cruise came a few weeks after I got my kaiser...
So, at the end of this year... I guess the Diamond is the way to go for me...
I hope there is a 8GB or 16GB version by then.
greetz,
Pfeffa-rah

Put a keyboard on it , and it becomes the Sony Xperia X1.
I'd much rather get the Sony Xperia X1. Although with HTCs current situation with the Kaiser , I am not sure I would go with another HTC product.

aaronsmckee said:
not for the diamond but for the Raphel, my Kaiser goes bye bye when the Raphel comes out. Also manilla may not be portable to the kaiser (may not have enough graphical horsepower).
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Raphael and Diamond are the same phone just another name for it. Raphael is the branded T-Mobile name for it.
korakesion said:
You have to look for USA version,because this phone it will not work in USA network,
check it out..
Europe/Asia: 900/2100 MHz
Up to 384 kbps up-link and 7.2 Mbps down-link speeds
Tri-band GSM/GPRS/EDGE:
Europe/Asia: 900/1800/1900 MHz
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Actually it is coming to the US. Check this out
http://msmobiles.com/news.php/7344.html
FCC documentation about HTC Touch Diamond

I personally need to have expansion memory and i am overly surprised HTC did not include that with their latest innovation. The phone looks nice but without a sliding keyboard for text messaging, or writing word and excel documents is just another drawback from myself purchasing one.
My Tilt is an eye catcher on its own. I always get compliments, even by iPhone users. XDA and the great community within has allowed me to completely understand the software that is on my device and customize my phone with great applications.

donate me one and I will help porting linux. looks nice but only plus vs kaiser is vga imo.

u think anyones gonna make a rom that looks like the hTC diamond?
i have high hopes for dutty

AllTheWay said:
Raphael and Diamond are the same phone just another name for it. Raphael is the branded T-Mobile name for it.
Actually it is coming to the US. Check this out
http://msmobiles.com/news.php/7344.html
FCC documentation about HTC Touch Diamond
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I believe the rapheal has a slideout keyboard with a similar form factor to the diamond, could be wrong

New Touch Pro, no iGO8 :S

Got a HTC Touch Pro, still too new? No threads here yet...
Can't get iGO8 to work, also not with instructions from the iGO8 thread for the Diamond. It seems Touch Pro again is different from Diamond enough to not make that work? Anyone any ideas?

Did you install it?
Sort out the grammar because your post doesnt make much sense.

I believe the Touch Pro is also know as Raphael in which case there is a full section here

MikLSP said:
I believe the Touch Pro is also know as Raphael in which case there is a full section
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You are correct...all touch pro info is in the raphael forum section!

Question before Upgrade ???

Hi Guys, currently using Artemis the now and due to upgrade with O2 next week. Really like the TouchPro, looks cool and want the slide out QWERTY keyboard this time ( only thing i miss on artemis ) Anyway, does it perform well and have good battery life AND one final question, is it better than the xperia because O2 say i can have that instead of Serra(TouchPro).
Thanks guys for any help you can give me.
Cheers,D.

droy68 said:
Hi Guys, currently using Artemis the now and due to upgrade with O2 next week. Really like the TouchPro, looks cool and want the slide out QWERTY keyboard this time ( only thing i miss on artemis ) Anyway, does it perform well and have good battery life AND one final question, is it better than the xperia because O2 say i can have that instead of Serra(TouchPro).
Thanks guys for any help you can give me.
Cheers,D.
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I have not had the pleasure of playing with a Xperia but I love my Fuze (Touch Pro). I went from an 8525 ot a Tilt and now a Fuze and I absolutely love it! It has so much storage memory that I no longer have to install my programs on my storage card.

I have two friends that went for the Xperia. Both never had a WM before.
They like it.
I have TP, I've played quite some time with their Xperias... I am keeping my TP.

Thanks guys, sticking to the TouchPro i think, The xperia has a mixed variety of reviews.
Cheers, D

Depend on which provider you are going for, I have the Sprint varient and I love it much more over my old Titan. But since you are taking about the Xperia X1, I would think you want GSM. The Fuze shouldn't be that bad, but make sure IF you decide to go with the X1, go for the US varient from Sony if you reside in the US, I have head about a lot of compatibility issues with the X1. The Fuze on the other hand is not widescreen, but still quite beautiful in its own glossy way and is cheaper. The Sony ericsson too is sexy in a distinct way. It'll all up to personal preference, whether you want a full 5 row qwerty keyboard, or a wide screen with brushed metal as the extra perk when you get the phone. Either way it is a good choice, and there are tons of people on this site who can help you with both phones.
Read some reviews, and youtube videos, or check them out in person. The only one who knows what phone you want is you... Good luck!

Many thanks u8myfoood, Network will be O2 as i reside in Scotland in the UK, had a look at the 2 of them and the TouchPro(Serra) is winning hands down at the moment, was just wondering if it was fast and stable as they make out ??
Cheers, D

Well ther might be different views that you'll see people has about both phone, but just to say, touch pro has g-sensor which x1 don't have. well i have touch pro as you might have seen on my signature and avatar well im very sattisfied.. all is working really great and smooth..the touch pro have 3d accelerator (do x1 has that?).. well i'm a gamer too and touch pro is perfect for that, (i play cod2 without any problems hehe and tony hawk pro skater 2 ) well another thing is that touch pro has a 5 row qwert keyboard which x1 doesn't have.. you have to use the function key on x1 to get to the numbers.. well x1 has larger screen i guess..

Many thanks you guys, this is certainly made my mind up, New TouchPro for me is on its way. Just out of curiosity, when using the artemis with manilla 2D i can change themes etc using M2DC, is it the same or do i need software for TouchPro 3D ???
Cheers, D

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=317070 Advanced Configuration Tool 3.3 rulez
edit: I'm wrong TF3D Config

search the forum for Diamond TF3d Config and you'll be able to change themes using that..

Cheers Guys, very helpful indeed. You'll all probably hear from me when i receive it just to keep me right on things, been used to my artemis for so long now so i guess it's a bit antiquated.
Many Thanks, D

Ok just had the chance to play around with a Xperia X1. I am really disappointed in Sony. This device looked very promising but to me was not acceptable. The Sony was very unresponsive and sloooow. Even with a cooked ROM and tweaked out it was very unimpressive. My Fuze absolutely screams with [WWE]RRE HTC Fuze ROM Ver 4.4.5 Special Edition on it. My buddy who bought the X1 is not a happy camper. I told him to go for the Fuze.

droy68, I hope you like your Pro when it arrives : )
A week ago my friend gave me his Artemis to upgrade the ROM to one with Manila 2D. I was amazed how quickly the interface worked. It's actually a bit more responsive than TouchFlo 3D is on my Pro's standard ROM.
Also, I loved the the scroll wheel, it's brilliant! As you may miss this, it may be worth pointing out that you can enable the touch scroll on the Pro to be active in more programs than it is by default. You need to add entries for each application in the registry under HKLM\Software\HTC\SmartTouch... See this thread for more info http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=406206. Alternatively, I think both Diamond Tweak and Schap's advanced config 3.3 can do it for you. I prefer to add things manaully so I can see what's going on : )
Finallly, if you miss the finger friendly contact page of Touch Flo 2D. You can always install a VGA version of Manila 2D instead of using TouchFlo 3D. I haven't tried this myself yet....

tf3d of touch pro2 on raphael

Hello everyone, I was wondering if there wil be a release (ROM or APP) either from HTC or from xda devs that will contain the new touch flo 3D from touch pro2 for the raphael. Is this possible? I believe that the screen difference is a great issue, however the new tf3D is great i think. I know there are some apps from the new diamond but some don't work well and they don;t create the same tf3D environment with touch pro2. Thanks for the answers.

XBmod and his group have been working on it for a month, they are almost done. ENRGZ28 has a rom with it now, it is in beta. Look in the rom development section and you will find plenty of threads to read and enjoy. It is awesome.