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Looking for buying an HTC handset but which one???

Hi,
I am a previous user of an HTC Blueangel and a SPV C500 when I was in France then I moved to UK where I choose a Blackberry 8700g but I am not feeling really happy with it.
I mean the Blackberry is a great handset in term of reliability and it is doing what it is supposed to. But it is not really a flexible. In fact, I found that the software range is really narrow and expensive. Also, I am missing the use of a stylus. However, the jog dial is really great.
Since I can use the MS Push mail with my company email, I am really thinking to switch back to a Pocket PC phone.
By the past, I really liked my SPV C500 but I don't think I can go for a Smartphone now, I think it won't be practical for writing email and so on.
To summarize I would be happy to have some people point of view of which handset would be the best for the following requirements (MS Push Email, I am not playing game, I am not using a GPS, I am using a Samsung bluetooth headset, listen to some music sometimes and watch some video sometimes, WIFI, sliding keyboard would be appreciated, possibility to use Skype or other VOIP system if possible.....).
Any help is much appreciated.
Finally, I have some newbie question:
- Is anybody using his Pocket PC with T-Mobile Web n walk in UK?
- If the device is not AKU is it possible to upgrade it to have this functionality (maybe flash firmware)?
- Does web n walk allow the use of MSN on T-Mobile UK Web n walk?
- For the MS Push Mail is it enough to have a data plan (like Web n Walk)?
Sorry for the long post. But I am a bit lost.
Thank you very much for your help.
Julien

I think the new TyTn / Hermes will be perfect for you.
Sliding keyboard, AKU 3.0 with all it's goodies, WIFI G, BT 2.0 400MHZ processor and 2MP camera as a bonus (+ VGA camera for video calls).
I am not on T-MBILE but I can answer a couple of your questions:
1) All WM5 devices manufactured today come with at least AKU 2.0 newer devices come with AKU 3.0 and up. Some older devices get updates from the manufacturer but not all.
2) All you need for push mail is internet access (GPRS / UMTS / WIFI) and an Exchange server on the other side.

levenum said:
AKU 3.0
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2.6 at the best for now.

Lurker0 said:
2.6 at the best for now.
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Oops. My mistake, somehow I remembered seeing it with the green windows screen.
Still I liked it from the brief experience I had with it.
How is it working out for you?

The T-Mobile version of the Hermes is the MDA Vario II
Just in case you didn't know...

Thank you guys for the information.
Indeed I think I will go for the Hermes. The only problem might be the budget.
What about he MDA Vario (i.e. Qtek 9100) is it good? I am a bit worried since the processor is only 200Mhz.
I will try to see if I can trade my blackberry against a Hermes or another one (with complement maybe).
Julien

jchoco said:
What about he MDA Vario (i.e. Qtek 9100) is it good? I am a bit worried since the processor is only 200Mhz.
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It's pretty good - see for example my game reviews, where I also elaborate on the given title's playability on the Wizard.

hi julien
check ebay and see what price you can get for your old phones.better than trading in !

jchoco said:
Thank you guys for the information.
Indeed I think I will go for the Hermes. The only problem might be the budget.
What about he MDA Vario (i.e. Qtek 9100) is it good? I am a bit worried since the processor is only 200Mhz.
I will try to see if I can trade my blackberry against a Hermes or another one (with complement maybe).
Julien
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Get the Vario II (Not the Vario)
Vario = Wizard = 200MHz
Vario II = Hermes = 400MHz

I am MAD T-Mobile has upgrade to WM6.0

T-Mobile website has the WM 6.0 update for the DASH but not the MDA.

ok and ur mad.. why?

So please - lock in, download and share.
lol

i went to the site and the only update is for tmobile dash. thats all i saw. so please let me know if i am wrong

Thats correct. Windows mobile 6 will only be offered for upgrade for the T-mobile dash.
As we all know, the MDA has been discontinued and will be replaced with "the wing"
The wing will come with wm6 preinstalled. In my opinion, its a worthless phone. It's the SAME processor speed, and there are no tactile buttons on front for messaging or internet. instead, the messaging button on the side and there is no more browser button.
Sure it has a 2MP camera... but NO flash!
One of the "perks" is that it has a spring loaded slide out keyboard.... another opporunity for something to break if u ask me.
But does it really matter if t-mobile doesn't have wm6? All the great chefs will be able to get their hands on the official wm6 and tweak it for us anyway. Standard roms are horrid. And the unofficial wm6 roms by the very talented ichefs in these forums are working close to flawless

marscandybars said:
Thats correct. Windows mobile 6 will only be offered for upgrade for the T-mobile dash.
As we all know, the MDA has been discontinued and will be replaced with "the wing"
The wing will come with wm6 preinstalled. In my opinion, its a worthless phone. It's the SAME processor speed, and there are no tactile buttons on front for messaging or internet. instead, the messaging button on the side and there is no more browser button.
Sure it has a 2MP camera... but NO flash!
One of the "perks" is that it has a spring loaded slide out keyboard.... another opporunity for something to break if u ask me.
But does it really matter if t-mobile doesn't have wm6? All the great chefs will be able to get their hands on the official wm6 and tweak it for us anyway. Standard roms are horrid. And the unofficial wm6 roms by the very talented ichefs in these forums are working close to flawless
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what roms should i take then? and are they build on a wm6 base of an wm5 with wm6 looks?

no the ROMs are are legit WM6, not WM5 with WM6 looks. the MDA has been discontinued. HTC, nor t-mobile will be giving a WM6 upgrade. I've been running WM6 on my MDA for a month though. Just do that.

RADIO NEEDED for MDA WM6, t-mob, WM6 needed
WDS Josh said:
no the ROMs are are legit WM6, not WM5 with WM6 looks. the MDA has been discontinued. HTC, nor t-mobile will be giving a WM6 upgrade. I've been running WM6 on my MDA for a month though. Just do that.
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The MOST SERIOUS problem with all of WM6's posted here is the phone radio driver.
It would be *REALLY* great if someone is able to adapt the radio in this to the wizard wm6. It seems that the biggest weakness in the WM6 hacks posted here is the "radio." Thus far, only 2.19 is reported to be at all reliable (all others tested are reported to miss calls). I confirmed missed calls on 2.40 yesterday (SF Bay Area, t-mob, NTS vanilla).
But 2.19 has nasty problems with signal acquisition, especially when the signal is weak.
If this new phone has the same processor (OMAP), then maybe the radio will work, or could be hacked to work, on MDA hardware??

perm said:
The MOST SERIOUS problem with all of WM6's posted here is the phone radio driver.
It would be *REALLY* great if someone is able to adapt the radio in this to the wizard wm6. It seems that the biggest weakness in the WM6 hacks posted here is the "radio." Thus far, only 2.19 is reported to be at all reliable (all others tested are reported to miss calls). I confirmed missed calls on 2.40 yesterday (SF Bay Area, t-mob, NTS vanilla).
But 2.19 has nasty problems with signal acquisition, especially when the signal is weak.
If this new phone has the same processor (OMAP), then maybe the radio will work, or could be hacked to work, on MDA hardware??
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On XDA terra there is Radio 2.85 BUT i wasn´t able to dump it till now.
ANy help and I will dump - but with awizard it isn´t possible. And with pdocread also.

marscandybars said:
...As we all know, the MDA has been discontinued and will be replaced with "the wing"
The wing will come with wm6 preinstalled. In my opinion, its a worthless phone. It's the SAME processor speed, and there are no tactile buttons on front for messaging or internet. instead, the messaging button on the side and there is no more browser button.
Sure it has a 2MP camera... but NO flash!...
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http://www.itechnews.net/2007/03/05/htc-wing-s730-wm6-pda-phone/
Quote from link - The HTC Wing S730 is powered by a Samsung SC32442 400Mhz processor, 128MB ROM, 64MB, and has a QVGA LCD screen, 3G and HSDPA support. There is also a secondary camera for video calls.
It seems to have a 200% faster 32-bit processor...
Are you sure it doesn't have tactile buttons? All I've seen is artist renderings and those are never exactly perfect.
Are you sure that it doesn't have a flash? I've yet to see even an artist rendering of the back side of the phone.
Where are you getting this information?

mmain said:
http://www.itechnews.net/2007/03/05/htc-wing-s730-wm6-pda-phone/
Quote from link - The HTC Wing S730 is powered by a Samsung SC32442 400Mhz processor, 128MB ROM, 64MB, and has a QVGA LCD screen, 3G and HSDPA support. There is also a secondary camera for video calls.
It seems to have a 200% faster 32-bit processor...
Are you sure it doesn't have tactile buttons? All I've seen is artist renderings and those are never exactly perfect.
Are you sure that it doesn't have a flash? I've yet to see even an artist rendering of the back side of the phone.
Where are you getting this information?
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NOT wings - but Wing aka HTC Herald aka HTC P4350 aka XDA terra
http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/24/t-mobile-wing-htc-herald-shows-up-in-fcc/

perm said:
The MOST SERIOUS problem with all of WM6's posted here is the phone radio driver.
It would be *REALLY* great if someone is able to adapt the radio in this to the wizard wm6. It seems that the biggest weakness in the WM6 hacks posted here is the "radio." Thus far, only 2.19 is reported to be at all reliable (all others tested are reported to miss calls). I confirmed missed calls on 2.40 yesterday (SF Bay Area, t-mob, NTS vanilla).
But 2.19 has nasty problems with signal acquisition, especially when the signal is weak.
If this new phone has the same processor (OMAP), then maybe the radio will work, or could be hacked to work, on MDA hardware??
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hmm I haven't had that issue as my calls seem to be coming through fine. Once the Wing is released, since it has roughly the same hardware as the MDA, it should be easy to "port" the t-mobile WM6 ROM for the MDA or at least the radio.

mmain said:
http://www.itechnews.net/2007/03/05/htc-wing-s730-wm6-pda-phone/
Quote from link - The HTC Wing S730 is powered by a Samsung SC32442 400Mhz processor, 128MB ROM, 64MB, and has a QVGA LCD screen, 3G and HSDPA support. There is also a secondary camera for video calls.
It seems to have a 200% faster 32-bit processor...
Are you sure it doesn't have tactile buttons? All I've seen is artist renderings and those are never exactly perfect.
Are you sure that it doesn't have a flash? I've yet to see even an artist rendering of the back side of the phone.
Where are you getting this information?
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LOL.......

mmain said:
http://www.itechnews.net/2007/03/05/htc-wing-s730-wm6-pda-phone/
Quote from link - The HTC Wing S730 is powered by a Samsung SC32442 400Mhz processor, 128MB ROM, 64MB, and has a QVGA LCD screen, 3G and HSDPA support. There is also a secondary camera for video calls.
It seems to have a 200% faster 32-bit processor...
Are you sure it doesn't have tactile buttons? All I've seen is artist renderings and those are never exactly perfect.
Are you sure that it doesn't have a flash? I've yet to see even an artist rendering of the back side of the phone.
Where are you getting this information?
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Yes im sure i've tested it. Im not impressed at all....
screen shots and info: http://www.phonearena.com/htmls/T-Mobile-Wing-replaces-the-MDA-article-a_1863.html
And like i said... NO flash... ONLY 200 mhz processor ... messaging button is placed on the side and no tactile buttons above the screen. Below the screen there is the ok and windows button (worthless)
The link you gave is not the phone we are talking about...

papamopps said:
On XDA terra there is Radio 2.85 BUT i wasn´t able to dump it till now.
ANy help and I will dump - but with awizard it isn´t possible. And with pdocread also.
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Wish I could help, but I don't have the expertise with these to extract a radio. Hope someone else can give you a hand. "Nottoosmart" in the US has done a great job in cleaning things up and providing a reliable wm6. I don't believe he has expertise in the internals, but he appears to be very knowledgeable in putting a system together and removing troublesome "extras." Perhaps if you can get him a copy of the new radio he might be able to extract and test it.
Right now the RADIO is a huge problem. All of the hacks and "cooked" roms are worthless if the phone doesn't answer or work right.

perm said:
Wish I could help, but I don't have the expertise with these to extract a radio. Hope someone else can give you a hand. "Nottoosmart" in the US has done a great job in cleaning things up and providing a reliable wm6. I don't believe he has expertise in the internals, but he appears to be very knowledgeable in putting a system together and removing troublesome "extras." Perhaps if you can get him a copy of the new radio he might be able to extract and test it.
Right now the RADIO is a huge problem. All of the hacks and "cooked" roms are worthless if the phone doesn't answer or work right.
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The radio is inside my Device - i don´t have an .nbh or something like this. It is still INSIDE and i want to dump it from there - but no sucess till now.
lol

What's the best WinMo phone of 2008?

This website says HTC Touch Diamond will be the best phone of 2008: http://www.mytouch-diamond-phone.com
Anyone feel the same way? I know the new iPhone has 3G but the Diamond also touts 3G speed...

The iPhone is not a WinMo phone.
Why even bring it up if you're asking what the best WinMo phone is?

My candidates for the best WinMo phone of 2008 are:
Super number 1.- Htc Advantage x7510!!
1.- Touch Pro Raphael
2.- Samsung Omnia
3.- Toshiba protegé g910
4.- Diamond
Iphone is not WinMo and can not compare with any of the ones above
Iphone sucks in several aspects.... so let´s not talk about it!
Cheers

thanx for spamming us with your site.

tom108 said:
thanx for spamming us with your site.
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Yeah, all 5 of his posts are basically cut-and-paste.

Currently I would say the HTC Touch Diamond.
Either the HTC Touch Pro or the SE Expreria might surpass it when they become available.

orb3000 said:
My candidates for the best WinMo phone of 2008 are:
Super number 1.- Htc Advantage x7510!!
1.- Touch Pro Raphael
2.- Samsung Omnia
3.- Toshiba protegé g910
4.- Diamond
Cheers
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Hahaha you're joking, right? I presume yo;ve never actually used any of the above, especially the G910...
My vote would be the i780, possibly followed by the i900 if you don't want a keyboard (too early for real user reviews yet). Forget the eye-candy and go for something that works better than any other PPC out there - at a bargain price. Not just my opinion:-
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=411053

hello from italy
i had samsung 780,and now i have diamond and omnia, i beleve omnia is the best or will be the best, it have a good battery, superb cam, big display (alas with bad resolution), good touchscreen, write on it is easy without stylus, problem with navigators, tomtom7 needs of gps gate, garmin is free (why always this problem?), the fix is good,
some little problem with installations of some programs and games, with diamond no problems, for me however omnia is the best for NOW

THE BEST PDA IN 2008 (in your opinion)

as in the topic.. what was the best pda in 2008 for you?
i think its Xperia X1

kamilanglia17 said:
as in the topic.. what was the best pda in 2008 for you?
i think its Xperia X1
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Welcome to the forum!
My vote goes for HD

I agree with orb that it's HD for 2008!
bty, there are already many threads on this "best" subject...

all i see anywahere is alk about the HTC touch. never used one but i guess it has to be a great phone

I think it should be the HTC Touch Diamond, because it's internet memory of 4gb

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as in the topic.. what was the best pda in 2008 for you?
i think its Xperia X1
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why X1?
Fuze/raphael/HD does everything X1 does, minus the $1000 price tag and pkus better performance.
Fuze and G1 get my vote

......sneaks in....
iPhone?
.....runs VERY fast and very far away......

asbestos said:
......sneaks in....
iPhone?
.....runs VERY fast and very far away......
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LMAO.... if it was "best overrated toy of 2008"
if best pda means best specs, features, and style... touch pro all the way
but i vote for the Titan for the sole reason that its over a year old and has gone through it all and still up to date with current models. from locked to unlocked gps, crappy internet speeds to evdo rev-a upgrade, wm6.0 to wm6.1, from standard wm today to htc home to manila2d etc. etc.
unlike the iphone who needed to release a 2nd gen model just to get 3g speeds

TOUCH PRO! ...with an extended battery.

kamilanglia17 said:
as in the topic.. what was the best pda in 2008 for you?
i think its Xperia X1
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Hmmm, you should have added a vote with the most common devices listed!
However, 'BEST PDA' is really a personal opinion - it all depends what you use it for! There are certain criterias, so, if you ask me about the keyboard, I most likely would say: Tytn II. If you ask me about the performance and features, I would say: OMnia. If you ask me about the design, well, I can't help it: X1!!!

Samsung i780...

A701 rules
I'm still using the A701 and I think it's a good allround device.

Charevian said:
I think it should be the HTC Touch Diamond, because it's internet memory of 4gb
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By that criteria it should be the Nokia N97 since it has 32 GB of ROM.
Gundem said:
why X1?
Fuze/raphael/HD does everything X1 does, minus the $1000 price tag and pkus better performance.
Fuze and G1 get my vote
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The X1 has more RAM than any of the phones you listed and a higher resolution screen than all but the HD.

..and xperia looks way better than others, also got keybord and xpanels which are more useful than touchflo3d also better battery, and camera(pictures are looking better on screen on x1 than on others, only hd got more MPX) and LED

Touch Diamond.
Small and sexy with sharp display, only negative about the device is the poor battery.

thats why there is an comm-menager to switch on/off the data and wifi and bluetooth on this device?
and thats why u get an charger in your box with it

AND THE WINNER IS......
SONY ERICSSON XPERIA X1 [SEX1] !!!
(IMHO)
Why ?? Well, matter of choices really, I won't argue; just speak out my oppinions:
Sony has done a cool blend of high tech and art here. A real "convergence device". HTC is GREAT, but HTC+SONY=SYNERGY !!!
I've had the tytn, diamond, blackstone... none of them gathered what Sony put in here:
1- beutiful WVGA screen
2- handsome and sexy metal case
3- cool LEDs
4- "bunny-forever" big battery
5- biggest RAM in the market
6- hardware keyboard
7- Sony's "panels" interface with the neat Sony media panel
8- etc etc etc

LOL, I just don't see that this thread is going anywhere ... evry1 has a different opinion anyway, so, what is the point ???

Agree
Perhaps if all can vote here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=446362 (Only devices made by HTC and supported on this site)
We could get concrete results

I seen this topic before but i made this one because some people may put here pda's like Asus or something... i didnt meant only HTC devices and only made in 2008

next phone ?

hero - magic - tattoo ?
They all are on android ? Which one to choose ?
I'm opting for magic - with one exception, no real qwerty keyboard.
Tia,
m32

I've had a Tattoo. I sent it back. I'm gonna get a Nokia of all phones next. Decided I'll get a n97 mini. I like them, they look solid.
The Tattoo was very good. But I was disappointed by the processer. I don't think it would last a 24 month contract before I smashed it up. For example, they bundled 2 games on the phone, and neither were smooth. They were both jerky and nasty.
Android does look the way forward though.

Well they all don't have a hardware keyboard
Go for Hero or Magic, they have the same hardware, the Tattoo has a worse screen.
You can easily get Sense on the Magic, so that's not a reason for the Hero (unless you don't want to flash )

is sgh-i780
an option?
i myself would like to upgrade to this as its quite fast 624mhz
and has wm6.5(cooked) gps wlan umts qwertz touchscreen (2,2")
would someone recommend me this phone?
i want one that is quite dureable so the buildquality should be good!
as i use it very often and long everyday!

hashtowent said:
is sgh-i780
an option?
i myself would like to upgrade to this as its quite fast 624mhz
and has wm6.5(cooked) gps wlan umts qwertz touchscreen (2,2")
would someone recommend me this phone?
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No use i7500 - Galaxy, but as HTC Phones - it has no real keyboard, but hast better AMOLED touch-screen, and more memory for start 8GB (flash)
m32