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I updated my FUZE to the new ROM. Before doing that I used Sprite to backup everything except for System Data (and my memory card).
After the update I used Sprite to restore everything. Among that was the contents of my imap email account. However when I went into the Inbox, there was no email account so I could not open or access of the old messages that I can scroll through on the email page. I tried to create an email account but it told me there was already an account with that name (it seems like there is, but I can't access it).
I did a master reboot to clear everything out and before I restored from Sprite, I created the email account again. But when I did the restore, the same thing happened as before.
I know I can deselect email in the restore options but doing that means that it doesn't restore any SMS/MMS messages which I want.
Where is the email account data? Somewhere in the registry? If so, where? After I do a restore, would it be safe for me to find that account data and delete it so I can create it for real? I don't want to keep any of that old email.
Thanks.
Well here's what you should do. Restore your Sprite backup.
Download and install "PIMBackup" and do a full backup with it.
Go into the registry and delete the email account from HKLM/Software/Microsoft/Inbox
Reboot
Check your Message app to see if the email account is gone. Set it back up.
Restore your stuff from PIMBackup. Ditch Sprite
Sprite backups are great but restore lots of stuff. Sprite has the ability to restore bugs and bad registry keys. PIMBackup JUST backs up the information therefore it is the best and even works across multiple flashes without screwing anything up. I actually set up an XML file to load on first boot using UC (most custom roms use this) that sets up my Email account automatically, then a simple PIMBackup restores everything back.
player911 said:
Ditch Sprite
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Maybe a little excessive! but Player is right, Sprite is no good for restoring after flashing a new rom (use pimbackup).
Sprite is great for backing everything up, hard reset, restore - exactly the same so its great for trying new settings, software etc etc.
I didn't want to confuse anything here but I actually did use PIM (I've used it for regular backups and migration for over a year). I used it before using Sprite. But after doing a restore, my device became EXTREMELY slow, to the point where it took roughly 5-10 seconds to open up a single txt msg. So I did a master reset and then did a restore from Sprite (which is what brought me here).
If I restore from Sprite again (and it will give me that phantom email again), think I can just delete the reg key? Would it delete the contents of this invisible Inbox? Should it have any negative effects?
Thanks.
Can you delete the reg key - yep!
will this remove the contents of the ghost account - i dont think so, but the account wont exist, so you shouldnt be able to get to these messages
Any negative effects? - almost certainly! but not from removing the spurious reg key. Using sprite to backup, then changing the rom, then restoring sprite will almost always leave some annoying, odd or unusual behaviour. Simply because when you changed the rom, you changed (a few) what reg keys are required and what they are called (mail accounts generate a unique guid when you create them, which is where the ghost account has probably come from)
Restoring a pim backup avoids this, as it simply puts the database info back on - leaving windows to worry about reg keys etc - i'm not sure why it was so slow before, maybe trying again & a couple of soft reboots could help - or maybe the pim backup is screwy, try making a new one.
Good luck!
FWIW, when I updated the ROM I did as the HTC website instructions say and did not choose to backup any system data in Sprite (they say this avoids copying the registry).
So anyway, what will delete the contents of the ghost account?
Or maybe I'm thinking about this the wrong way - maybe instead of deleting the contents of that ghost account, would I be able to create a new account through the registry? Or rename a (real/functional) account in the registry? (when I have the ghost account and try to create an account with the same name normally, it tells me the account exists...even though it kinda doesn't)
I think the problem I am having with PIM seems to be too many message. I say this because the number of messages goes up for a long time and that's when it takes forever to load messages. I found that it settles down after a few hours but even then it still takes about 2-3 seconds to open a single txt msg.
Thanks.
I'm noob and have TB Pro.
I'm starting this topic in hopes that people will submit their methods of use for employing this Powerful and Invaluable App..
I mainly use it to backup/reinstall apps and data. And remove bloat. It does so much more than that!
I think that MY restoring of certain data/system data from one ROM to another ROM has sometimes caused me problems.
I am trying to develop my own protocol for using TB Pro. I have gained much knowledge through trial, error and research but could really use the knowledge, experience and help of you people.
So how do YOU use TB PRO? What system data do you ALWAYS restore? What system data do you NEVER restore? Ect..
Thank you for your time, efforts energy and input.
I've found that generally the "Green" system settings can be restored, although sometimes if your ROM or Device is too different from the previous it won't work. For example from my Vibrant to the 4G it seemed the SMS storage is changed a bit and I had to manually pull the smsmms.db and transfer it.
My current system data I restore is generally:
Calendar
Bluetooth Pairings
SMS/MMS/APN Dialer Storage (this has the SMS)
Bookmarks
Wifi Access Points
User Dictionary
Calendar
Playlists
Wallpaper
Settings/bluetooth storage
Another thing I've found useful is the use of labels in TB. I have a "system" label for the above items, and "Apps with Data" which I put apps that have specific settings and such I don't feel like setting up after each flash. Handcent, Launchers, apps you have to 'sign in' to, alarms, etc.
Then I have multiple "restore" labels, I don't really like restoring everything at once usually, so I'll put my first 30 or so primary apps in a label, then the next 20-30, and restore them in batches. Usually my 1st restore point is the stuff I use daily, and the others are stuff I don't use as much. Sometimes I only restore the first one and reinstall individual apps as I need them.
I also have a dropbox label which I use to sync 'important' stuff to drop box.
These labels also help with the TB Schedules, I backup the "system" label more frequently then the others, etc.
If you do use labels, make sure you have "auto backup TB Data" option so your labels will restore when you wipe and reflash.
jalsing said:
I've found that generally the "Green" system settings can be restored, although sometimes if your ROM or Device is too different from the previous it won't work. For example from my Vibrant to the 4G it seemed the SMS storage is changed a bit and I had to manually pull the smsmms.db and transfer it.
My current system data I restore is generally:
Calendar
Bluetooth Pairings
SMS/MMS/APN Dialer Storage (this has the SMS)
Bookmarks
Wifi Access Points
User Dictionary
Calendar
Playlists
Wallpaper
Settings/bluetooth storage
Another thing I've found useful is the use of labels in TB. I have a "system" label for the above items, and "Apps with Data" which I put apps that have specific settings and such I don't feel like setting up after each flash. Handcent, Launchers, apps you have to 'sign in' to, alarms, etc.
Then I have multiple "restore" labels, I don't really like restoring everything at once usually, so I'll put my first 30 or so primary apps in a label, then the next 20-30, and restore them in batches. Usually my 1st restore point is the stuff I use daily, and the others are stuff I don't use as much. Sometimes I only restore the first one and reinstall individual apps as I need them.
I also have a dropbox label which I use to sync 'important' stuff to drop box.
These labels also help with the TB Schedules, I backup the "system" label more frequently then the others, etc.
If you do use labels, make sure you have "auto backup TB Data" option so your labels will restore when you wipe and reflash.
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This is a AWESOME reply! Exactly the kind of response I was hoping for.
It is informative, detailed, technical & the screen shot really helps put things into perspective for me.
Without getting into my TB details. I have done a cpl backups that you do and will now incorporate the ones you have given. I have never assigned any labels or schedules. I will start doing those things now.
The reason I posted this topic is because I'm noob. I have learned to flash properly and recover if I get into trouble.
Recently I have realized that the problems I have been having sometimes after flashing are a result of the things I DID after flashing and not that of the ROM, Mod, or Tweak that people work hard to develop and put together.
I want to minimize MY unnecessary (unwittingly) posts and in doing so the replies I get from the very helpful people in our Great Community.
If I can backup and restore my data properly after flashing then I will less likely believe I "found a bug" and will not have to seek help. That will benefit me by having my phone function at it's best and help the Community by keeping our threads shorter.
THANK YOU for your response
Restoring Settings with TiBu
jalsing said:
I've found that generally the "Green" system settings can be restored, although sometimes if your ROM or Device is too different from the previous it won't work. For example from my Vibrant to the 4G it seemed the SMS storage is changed a bit and I had to manually pull the smsmms.db and transfer it.
My current system data I restore is generally:
Calendar
Bluetooth Pairings
SMS/MMS/APN Dialer Storage (this has the SMS)
Bookmarks
Wifi Access Points
User Dictionary
Calendar
Playlists
Wallpaper
Settings/bluetooth storage
Another thing I've found useful is the use of labels in TB. I have a "system" label for the above items, and "Apps with Data" which I put apps that have specific settings and such I don't feel like setting up after each flash. Handcent, Launchers, apps you have to 'sign in' to, alarms, etc.
Then I have multiple "restore" labels, I don't really like restoring everything at once usually, so I'll put my first 30 or so primary apps in a label, then the next 20-30, and restore them in batches. Usually my 1st restore point is the stuff I use daily, and the others are stuff I don't use as much. Sometimes I only restore the first one and reinstall individual apps as I need them.
I also have a dropbox label which I use to sync 'important' stuff to drop box.
These labels also help with the TB Schedules, I backup the "system" label more frequently then the others, etc.
If you do use labels, make sure you have "auto backup TB Data" option so your labels will restore when you wipe and reflash.
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In my case I do exactly the same as above but also have a TWRP backup of my entire ROM with all my preferred apps installed (and TiBu included) to quickly reflash the phone with this TWRP backup in case I break something (e.g., I tweak something I shouldn't have in the kernel). The TiBu backups I mainly use to restore an earlier app version if a new release of that app breaks functionality I've come to depend on (it happens often!) The unique issue I run into is that if I update my TiBu labels, they won't carry through after the ROM flash unless I backup the entire ROM all over again. I sure wish I could backup the TiBu labels and restore them. I hear Delta Backup can backup TiBu and its labels. I'll give it a shot next time but if anyone has any better ideas I'm all ears.
Dear all,
Like you, I've been flashing roms a lot. Some roms, however, require or need full wipe. With Titanium backup, I could easily restore app+data. It is even easier now when Titanium Backup can restore from Nandroid (tar format).
By searchin and reading around, I now know that backing up [SMS/MMS/APN] item means I could restore "SMS logs". What about "call logs" and other system settings, such as home screen layout.
I saw a [Contacts/Calls] Contact Storage item, I wonder if it is the one for call logs? I once backed up contacts (with another app) and then re-synced with Google, ending up with doubled contact list.
Hi Gang,
Just looking for general advice and ideas regarding any solution to this puzzle!
Scenario:
Dell Streak 5, Android 2.2.2, GAUSB1A135100-EU
I've been using Titanium Backup Pro to keep regular backups of the data and apps on it.
Couple of weeks now Android Market was not allowing updates to run, giving the "101 error" etc that other people have posted. Most common solution to this seems to have been do a factory reset, to wipe off the linked gmail account, and recreate to get Market running again.
So I did a TB full backup, factory reset, and recreated my gmail account, and market is back up and running, and now updating the 20+ apps fine.
Problem: My Call Logs, Contacts and Messaging is still wiped, even after I have restore all my data and apps from Titanium Backup.
No, I did not have my contacts, etc synced to gmail, because I don't really use it that much and was concerned about privacy issues.
The question I have is this: Did the full data and app backup I performed on Titanium Backup backup my Contacts and SMS/MMS/Messages? If yes, then why will they not restore? If no, then is there any way to recover or locate them?
I'd like to recover my Messaging section most of all, if possible!
Many thanks, in advance.
WB
If I'm not mistaken, the SMS messages are under the TB entry named "[SMS/MMS/APN] Mobile Network Configuration" Try double checking you restored the backup for that.
WikedBlade said:
Hi Gang,
Just looking for general advice and ideas regarding any solution to this puzzle!
Scenario:
Dell Streak 5, Android 2.2.2, GAUSB1A135100-EU
I've been using Titanium Backup Pro to keep regular backups of the data and apps on it.
Couple of weeks now Android Market was not allowing updates to run, giving the "101 error" etc that other people have posted. Most common solution to this seems to have been do a factory reset, to wipe off the linked gmail account, and recreate to get Market running again.
So I did a TB full backup, factory reset, and recreated my gmail account, and market is back up and running, and now updating the 20+ apps fine.
Problem: My Call Logs, Contacts and Messaging is still wiped, even after I have restore all my data and apps from Titanium Backup.
No, I did not have my contacts, etc synced to gmail, because I don't really use it that much and was concerned about privacy issues.
The question I have is this: Did the full data and app backup I performed on Titanium Backup backup my Contacts and SMS/MMS/Messages? If yes, then why will they not restore? If no, then is there any way to recover or locate them?
I'd like to recover my Messaging section most of all, if possible!
Many thanks, in advance.
WB
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No the data and app backup did not back those up.
@JMC: Thanks for the reply; yeah I've tried doing a restore on any item relating to Contacts, Messaging, SMS/MMS that is coming up in the Restore list under TB, all of which appear as Green items and sometimes with the [] at the start as you indicated.
Unfortunately, none seem to be restoring the messages etc. I've even looked on the microSD card to see if the TB backup files are empty, and they appear to be healthy sizes, so there must be "something" backed up in them....
@Zelendel: Thanks; well if what you say is true, then that is a damn shame. I figured TB would do a more complete job of backing everything up like it promises... bad assumption on my part if you're sure of your information.
I guess I'll see if anyone has a contradicting opinion, and the move on.
I wonder if you have any recommendations on how to backup that stuff for future adventures? Thinking of syncing Outlook with Gmail and then syncing the Streak with Gmail from now on.... mind you that won't secure SMS/MMS correspondence, just my issue of Contacts!
Titanium Backup will backup everything, but you have to make sure you have it backing up system app data if too, because the messaging app for texting is a system app. Regular app and data backup does not backup any system apps. You just have to be careful when restoring system app data. I tried restoring gmail settings to a newer version of gmail and I caused syncing to completely stop working. I haven't had any problems restoring SMS/MMS though.
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WikedBlade said:
@Zelendel: Thanks; well if what you say is true, then that is a damn shame. I figured TB would do a more complete job of backing everything up like it promises... bad assumption on my part if you're sure of your information.
I guess I'll see if anyone has a contradicting opinion, and the move on.
I wonder if you have any recommendations on how to backup that stuff for future adventures? Thinking of syncing Outlook with Gmail and then syncing the Streak with Gmail from now on.... mind you that won't secure SMS/MMS correspondence, just my issue of Contacts!
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Yes as stated above. Messaging is a system app so it your backing up user apps and data then it will not back up your messages. Then you get into the issue that unless you flash the excat same rom it is never advised to restore system data of any kind as there could be big changes that restoring system data breaks. I would use a 3rd party app to back it up.
LAst time i backed up all my messages call logs and contacts, was using an app called super backup. Havent found anything wrong with it. Forgot which folder it stores the files in, but after i did factory reset and downloaded the app again, i was able to restore everything. Hope it helps
WikedBlade said:
Hi Gang,
The question I have is this: Did the full data and app backup I performed on Titanium Backup backup my Contacts and SMS/MMS/Messages? If yes, then why will they not restore? If no, then is there any way to recover or locate them?
I'd like to recover my Messaging section most of all, if possible!
Many thanks, in advance.
WB
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Hi @WikedBlade!
I realise its probably too late to b answering ur q. But perhaps this cud b of help to u in the future:
TB does backup cal logs, contacts, n msgs if u choose to backup sys data. And generally, after doing a restore u need to reboot ur fone for the data to b back again.
It's that simple . And do remember nvr to use backup n restore of sys data unless u r going to b using the exact same ROM b4 n after!
greatttt... thxxx totally helped me out in this matter
StygiAn TrepidAtioN said:
Hi @WikedBlade!
I realise its probably too late to b answering ur q. But perhaps this cud b of help to u in the future:
TB does backup cal logs, contacts, n msgs if u choose to backup sys data. And generally, after doing a restore u need to reboot ur fone for the data to b back again.
It's that simple . And do remember nvr to use backup n restore of sys data unless u r going to b using the exact same ROM b4 n after!
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And if i use a different rom?
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And if i use a different rom?
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Then it isn't advisable to restore system data from TB as
it can cause sync issues or even break certain system functionalities.
So, in the case that you're planning to use a different ROM, I'd recommend that you backup your call logs, messages on this app called SMS Backup & Restore by Carbonite. Thru this you can restore on any ROM thereafter.
What thing do you use Titanium Backup for? Tell me their whole names please so I can easily find them in the application. There are so many things I don't know what to backup. And I can't think of any and there might be so many useful stuff I've just missed. So please share what do you backup up with Titanium?
User apps and a few bits of system data like the Data Usage Allowance settings, Bluetooth Pairings.
The easy way to use Titanium is to click on Menú button, and there go to "Lotes" (sorry have it Spanish), which for me is the option top-right.
There you have the diferent quick options, one of them is to Copy your apps, and down you have the one to restore them
For me that's the menú! Just take care, ones you start copying things don't touch your screen, just leave the device do it's work... I don't know why but if I touch anything Titanium blocks and I have to kill the process to restart the copy (same with back up, not a big deal really, just let it do its job )
I backup my text history, app data, email account settings etc. Much easier to blaze through Titanium to be right where I left off before flashing.
I just use Titanium when I flash a new rom. I nandroid the previous ROM so I can have a complete backup in case the new ROM sucks. The cool part about TB is that it can restore from nandroid, so I kill two birds with one stone. As soon as I boot up the new ROM, I extract all the apps I want from nandroid with TB.
games. but im going to look into email account wifi passwords, that would be extra handy.
Drewstein said:
I backup my text history, app data, email account settings etc. Much easier to blaze through Titanium to be right where I left off before flashing.
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whats the name of the file that u backup for text messages?