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WM6 vs WM5 Memory Management

I'm about to buy my first WM phone. I have had several WM PDAs, my current one being the HP 4705 running WM5. Can anyone tell me if the memory management in WM6 has been improved over WM5? I find my PDA grinding to a near halt almost every day and am forced to do a soft reset. I also notice my memory meter slowly dropping throughout the day (memory leaks), even if I don't get one of those irritating slowdowns. I'm guessing in a typical day I do a soft reset 3-4 times. Has this issue been fixed/improved with WM6?
Thanks.
-Bob-

I think it depends on what ROM you burn into your phone. Some have more memory leaks then others.

Memory management under WM5 and 6 seems the same to me. I see little differences, if any, on my Wizard running WM 5 or WM6 (memory wise), except that I'm running a build of WM6 (Business Edition) that leaves about 29 MB free with the MiniSD in place (vs only 24 MB on official ROM). This makes a big difference for me, as during normal use memory will go down, but there's more free, so usually I only need to reset once a week (sometimes twice).
That being said, the HX4700 wasn't designed for WM 5 and it doesn't run under WM 5 as well as new devices designed with permanent storage in mind. The compaction process that slowed down the HX4700 shows no performance impact on native WM 5 devices (not at least on my Wizard or F-S Loox N560). So no slowdowns.
But if you're a power user, my recomendation is to look for a device with 128 MB RAM, to avoid soft-resetting your PocketPC when too much memory is in use and cannot be recovered simply terminating running programs.

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igalan said:
Memory management under WM5 and 6 seems the same to me. I see little differences, if any, on my Wizard running WM 5 or WM6 (memory wise), except that I'm running a build of WM6 (Business Edition) that leaves about 29 MB free with the MiniSD in place (vs only 24 MB on official ROM). This makes a big difference for me, as during normal use memory will go down, but there's more free, so usually I only need to reset once a week (sometimes twice).
That being said, the HX4700 wasn't designed for WM 5 and it doesn't run under WM 5 as well as new devices designed with permanent storage in mind. The compaction process that slowed down the HX4700 shows no performance impact on native WM 5 devices (not at least on my Wizard or F-S Loox N560). So no slowdowns.
But if you're a power user, my recomendation is to look for a device with 128 MB RAM, to avoid soft-resetting your PocketPC when too much memory is in use and cannot be recovered simply terminating running programs.
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Thanks for your reply. It was very helpful.
I used a T-Mobile MDA for 3 weeks, testing it for my kind of usage. It had WM5 and TWO major flaws that made me decide that I'd wait for WM6:
1. With 64MB RAM it could not run several programs at the same time. Before any additional apps were installed to a memory card it only had 28MB of available space. After installation of my software (all to a memory card), I was down to just over 18MB, as compared to 29MB on my 4705. It required many more soft resets than my 4705!
2. It's Wi-Fi antenna was very weak. It would drop the signal at just 20 feet of clear path to the box (half the distance of the 4705).
Your suggestion about 128MB of RAM confirms my experience with the MDA.
Thanks again.
-Bob-

Sadly, though, the selection of current devices with 128MB of RAM has become very small and if they do have 128MB of RAM they usually have other features that may deter you. Of course, the 128MB RAM upgrade by PPCTechs for the hx4700 looks nice (although expensive).

rebecker said:
2. It's Wi-Fi antenna was very weak. It would drop the signal at just 20 feet of clear path to the box (half the distance of the 4705).
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What I found with my MDA was that it wasnt the antenna as much as it was the radio rom. When I upgraded I noticed a huge performance gain especially in distance.
It does have a weaker antenna than some things though, and there are people that have made external add ons, although they dont talk about tuning it, so those addons may give a bad SWR, but meh.
The moral of this post is dont always blame hardware when its a software problem

Matt Graham said:
Sadly, though, the selection of current devices with 128MB of RAM has become very small and if they do have 128MB of RAM they usually have other features that may deter you. Of course, the 128MB RAM upgrade by PPCTechs for the hx4700 looks nice (although expensive).
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Actually, I'm in the process of evaluating cell phone replacements for my hx4700. I've narrowed the field to three right now, I-Mate Ultimate 5150, Softbank X01T, and Toshiba Portege G900. I like the Toshiba the best, but am concerned (as with the X01T) about the 480x800 screen size not being compatible with much of my software.
The criteria I'm using is GSM, WM6, WiFi, at least 128MB RAM, and at least 480x640 screen. Since my hx4700 is still working great, I'm not in a rush to buy the new phone, so I can wait for their release.
Thanks for your response.
-Bob-

rebecker said:
Actually, I'm in the process of evaluating cell phone replacements for my hx4700. I've narrowed the field to three right now, I-Mate Ultimate 5150, Softbank X01T, and Toshiba Portege G900. I like the Toshiba the best, but am concerned (as with the X01T) about the 480x800 screen size not being compatible with much of my software.
The criteria I'm using is GSM, WM6, WiFi, at least 128MB RAM, and at least 480x640 screen. Since my hx4700 is still working great, I'm not in a rush to buy the new phone, so I can wait for their release.
Thanks for your response.
-Bob-
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Buy a wizard, splash-flash my bootscreens, and you will want to restart it a few times a day....

Increase/Decrease memory
I was using wm3 previously and this version had a memory management tool. when i upgraded to wm5 this tool was finished. and now with wm5 in my pocket pc. i face an issue that when i install a heavy software i get an error that thier is no space in memory and the allocated memory for the device is too low. so i need a software that can support memory management. i downloaded one from the dreamesoft.com but it was for wm3 not for wm5. so guys i need this urgently.if some one has any idea u can tell me at [email protected].
thanks.

WM 6.1 Makes the Jump
While I didn't see an improvement in the memory management or charging from WM5 to WM6, I've found WM 6.1 to be faster, hold a charge, and generally be more stable than anything prior. And they added zoom to PIE.
Might be worth it!
Cheers,
theregoesdave.com

WM5/6 as OS on PC

Hi everyone!
I was wondering if there by any chance is possible to run windows mobile as an os on a notebook(for example my asus eee 900)?

The only 'netbook' that will run windows mobile is redfly, and at that it needs to be plugged into the phone to make it work still.
Also on the front of it on a regular netbook i somehow doubt it as the processor architecture is x86 in the asus whereas all of the wimo phones run on arm processors which have very different (and better, in some ways) architecture.
Also the resolution of the asus would not be supported as the biggest wimo supports is 800x480 and i somehow beleive that your asus is greater than this.
So at the end of the day in a long way, no you cant, to my knowledge

WinCE 6.0 is running fine on PC, but it need to be compiled for x86 first

There are some netbooks out there based on windows ce as far as I know. But getting it to run on a normal pc would at least require a lot of tweaking.
On that note, I've been using a redfly since last fall and absolutely love it (even though quite a few people find it an unnecessary thing). The thing is, it's in fact just like a bluetooth keyboard bundled with a bigger screen and usb host functionality. So it still uses the phones processor - and the processor architecture would be the real problem...
Concerning resolutions: It seems that Windows ce does indeed support resolutions at least up to 1024x768.

dell axim x50(low) dead. no bootloader whit batery pack

just turn on my Axim bootloader mode if the switch connected to cable, but without making the battery, this happened after trying to upgrade to the WM5 ROM A01 and A05 had wm2k3 Please help me or if anyone knows how to recover using the JTAG and what are their points.
axim x50 low QVGA
intel xcale 450mhz

juanseti said:
just turn on my Axim bootloader mode if the switch connected to cable, but without making the battery, this happened after trying to upgrade to the WM5 ROM A01 and A05 had wm2k3 Please help me or if anyone knows how to recover using the JTAG and what are their points.
axim x50 low QVGA
intel xcale 450mhz
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Welcome to the forum
Not sure if your device is made by HTC, as this is an HTC devices only forum
However perhaps another member can point you into the right direction
Good luck,

For the ignorant (or just plain don't know), the axim (both X50 series and X51 series) were both made by HTC under the codename HTC Colorado. Anyway, you were trying to upgrade from WM2003 SE A05 rom to the WM5 A01 rom and you bricked your axim, right?

whether it is right from WM2003 A05 to WM5 A01 rom was that my Axim is dead. I apologize for the delay but is walking without internet

[Q] Im totally lost, m799ca,m7206,m009f,m010f....etc

i took in my hands this tablet, (a gift from a friend but maybe was a curse :crying and after a while finally turned on.
i install some apps for know the specs, then search, then investigate models, then i get crazy.
well, now what?, in my research, i get to this tablet, maybe is a clone. the names are freaking me out. there is no stick or anything to named the tablet, only in behind say, "infotmic, android 2.3, DDRII 512MB, Hard Disk 4GB"
how can i know if mi tablet is original or fake?, there are a several numbers, models and names, flytouch, superpad, eken, infotmic
this is what i have.
in the tablet, 1 headpones, 2 usb (not miniusb), 1 tfcard, 1 hdmi, 1 network and 1 for dc. 1 reset (this dont work at all)
in settings/about device:
Model Number: P001 RTL8188-20111206
Android Version: 2.3.3
Baseband Version: Unknown
Kernel version: 2.6.35.7-infoTM, [email protected]#79
Buid Number: GRI40
whit some apps i found this:
model-m799ca
brand-infotmic
cpu hardware: infotmic imapx200 800mhz
tablet tipe: mid / apad m7206 (m799ca)
cpu model-armv6 compatible processor rev 5 (v6l)
cpu frequency-791,34
CPU implementer : 0x41
CPU architecture: 6TEJ
CPU variant : 0x1
CPU part : 0xb36
CPU revision : 5
screen resolution-1024x600
screen size: in here say 7, but physically is 10 inches
gpu vendor-Vivante corporation
gpu renderer-GC600 graphics engine
3d graphics engine 40nm, 315mhz, ScalarMorphic (TM) architecture, Vertex Rate: 157.5 vert/s
ram size-437,9 mb of 512mb
sd cart size-2638,6 mb
sd card ext.-14972 mb
android version-2.3.3
build number-GRI40
Imei-xxxxxxxxxxxx
kernel [email protected] (gcc version 4.4.0)#79 tue dec 27 20011
im almost secure, is just like almost the same of the page chinaphonehouse (dot) org.... under the name: Flytouch3 / Superpad III version 2012
led is green when is turned on, and red when is charging. 9 volts.
so, what i have?, an original,? o fake? what firmware i need?
i really, really sorry if all of you can´t understand me, thats because im a spanish user, and all of this was writte with google translator and my understand of english.
i feel in several ways full pleased, if someone can get me the link of a firmware for my tablet.
thanks for everyone, even if you can help me or not.

JustUP
hi, everybody.....
for my question, any hep?
thanks.

radamantis2707 said:
hi, everybody.....
for my question, any hep?
thanks.
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hi i got the jay tech 799 tablet, but it hangs on ANDROID_ boot-screen
do u have any firmware for it ???

In the tablet are two buttons together
If you click the power of button and click the button (H)
repeatly it goona send you to recovery mode from there reset the tablet

HELP PLEASE:Windows 7 BSOD on Usb plug-in

Yo, XDA,
Those who deal with the foolishness of Windows everyday, I need your help. I recently upgraded to Win 7 from Vista and need to upgrade another computer to 7 from XP, but that's besides the point. Every time I plug in something to my laptop, I get a BSoD with the same error almost every time. I have a few shots here (sorry they're blurry; my laptop dumps to disk and reboots frustratingly fast): https://plus.google.com/u/0/103259074847580013585/posts
I have a Dell Inspiron 1545 with Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1. These are the rest of the stats:
Intel Pentium Dual-core CPU [email protected] 2.00GHz each and integrated Intel "HD" graphics
4 GB of memory
I seem to be getting errors SYSTEM_SERVICE_EXCEPTION and ***STOP: 0x0000003B (0x00000000C000001D, 0xFFFFF88000000000, 0xFFFFF88007F5F150, 0x0000000000000000)
If anyone can help me I would so appreciate it, bro.
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