Hey,
I want to try WM6 out, but don't want to lose my warranty.
I've bought the wizard (KJAM) from my operator, that has its own boot screen and extended rom, but the rom is the regular IMATE WWE that i've downloaded from the IMATE website.
Now a few questions:
1. Will I be able to install the official ROM from IMATE directly over the WM6 one?
2. If I install the official IMATE ROM, and copy the extended rom of my operator (that i can copy using Total Commander), will it bring back everything like it was before?
3. Searching around here turned up very complicated ways to backup and reinstall original (ROMS +Extended), and not 100% reliable.
Is there any easy, straight-forward and reliable way to backup and restore everything (and I mean everything, even restore the CID lock), so I won't lose my warranty?
Thanks A lot, sorry if answered before and I couldn't find it.
Welcome to the forums...
First off, understand that most everything being done here will violate your warranty. So remember that before you proceed with anything else if thats a real concern. I can tell you that a friend of mine CID Unlocked his phone upgraded to WM6 and then had an issue. He just flashed back to the default Cingular rom, and there was no problem with the warranty exchange... BUT YMMV...
First step is you need to determine if you have a G3 or G4. But really either way, if you don't want to CID Unlock, then you can check out the sticky in the G4 and the Wizard Upgrading boards on how to flash without CID Unlocking.
I'd suggest you start reading here as this will help you figure out which type of Wizard you have and how to proceed.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=298613
3. Searching around here turned up very complicated ways to backup and reinstall original (ROMS +Extended), and not 100% reliable.
Is there any easy, straight-forward and reliable way to backup and restore everything (and I mean everything, even restore the CID lock), so I won't lose my warranty?
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If you are talking about for a warranty exchange you just have to reflash your carrier's official rom and you are back to that. You can use spb backup (or similar) to take a full backup before you start flashing new roms, and then restore to that backup when you go back to WM5 (but don't use that backup on a WM6 rom and don't use spb backup to restore from one rom to another one).
As for putting back the CID Lock (on a G3), just flash back to the Button ROM, and then flash your carrier rom. As I understand it, you will be CID Locked when you move from 1.xx to 2.xx (at least I know you have to do lokiwiz again if you go back to 1.xx so I assume that means the CID lock is back).
Thanks, I know that my phone is G3, and I've read many times how to flash a ROM. My problem is how to backup my current ROM with all the operator's customizations....
I'm confused with my new G1. It's unlocked, with code from operator but don't have data plan and sim card. Phone isn't touched yet with custom roms, hspls etc...
I don't know what to do first: register the G1 without a sim or data plan OR Root, Hack, and Flashing your G1/Dream
And at the end need to flash this Updated 3-3-09 - JFv1.43 for UK RC9 firmware! or will loose root access ?
Please somebody explain me
Root, Hack, and Flashing your G1/Dream
if you still need to register after you root, then follow that.
can i take a CDMA hero for GCI Wireless / Alaska Digitel and use the RUU to make it work on sprint? i just want to make sure before i get it that it works
i think the bootloader is different. pretty sure you will get an error running the ruu
thedudejdog said:
i think the bootloader is different. pretty sure you will get an error running the ruu
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is there a way to reprovision to make it work?
thedudejdog said:
i think the bootloader is different. pretty sure you will get an error running the ruu
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You could have them check the bootloader version from fastboot (hold vol down when turning the phone on).
Version 1.41.0000 is the one that works with the 1.56 RUU.
afaik this is the reason they don't have root yet.
all they would have to do is flash a sprint ruu, root, flash recovery, and then flash whatever rom they wanted. but the Alaskan Digital guys got root-patched. the bootloader is newer than ours. a few months ago they were trying to root and most all of the non-sprint hero's are rooted. all but alaskan digital.
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read this... it says on the first post it will mess with the pri i think it may turn it into a sprint phone. (the 2.1 ruu)
Sprint 2.1 RUU - Supposedly a Sprint 2.1 RUU has been floating around. Until we hear otherwise, DO NOT APPLY IT. Specifically, problems have been reported with GCI Wireless / Alaska DigiTel: "it can break roaming, possibly cause data connection issues, and of course it could adversely affect the bill." and "If someone updates with an RUU we currently have no way to fix their phone." Even if you're with Cellular South or someone else, I suggest not applying it.
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i have found that and looked it over. i just dont want to make it a paper weight and not have a phone
then your best bet will be to get it and run the 2.1 ruu and hope for the best.. lol.
(almost) anything that you do can be recovered. except a gsm radio flash. so don't flash any of those and you'll be fine.
You need to have a goldcard setup but flashing Sprint's 2.1 RUU over any other carriers Hero will work so long as the bootloader is not newer. Currently, the Sprint 2.1 RUU that's floating around has the newest bootloader I know of so it will flash over anything at this point.
Just a warning though, you can't go back to another RUU after because everything else has an older bootloader. Which doesn't matter so much because the Sprint 2.1 RUU floating around is a dev rom and rooted so you can flash the custom recovery and go to whatever ROM you want.
EDIT: If you are not on Sprint and you use a Sprint RUU you DO have to program your carriers PRL after using QPST or CDMA Workshop
@curtis8523 I know I sent this to you via email already but I wanted to make sure it's searchable on XDA.
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Just a warning though, you can't go back to another RUU after because everything else has an older bootloader. Which doesn't matter so much because the Sprint 2.1 RUU floating around is a dev rom and rooted so you can flash the custom recovery and go to whatever ROM you want.
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This is a good point. You could flash the 2.1 test RUU to get it to Sprint. If you want to run the 1.56 ruu you can flash everything 1.5 except the hboot by following the instructions here >> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=657086
The only reason I am talking about myself that i want to root my device is because i want to delete all the crap that it had pre-installed.Is it possible by using this method http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...light=zergrush to gain temproot then go delete the crap and go back to the original state without them or i MUST flash a new official rom without the crap? Phone info:HBOOT 2.00.0002 and software version 2.10.163.5
Guys is this possible? http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1245334 ?? I just found it and it might be helpful to others as well!
Right now i have 2.10.163.5 software version..If i download a newer software version (newer RUU) and instal it will it debrand the phone?(Without using rooting tools and stuff).Because that's what the second link i posted says...
Temp root doesn't work. Whatever you do under temp root, won't stick - because /system is protected by security.
LEARN TO READ. Reading answers all your questions. If it doesn't - you have no business doing anything with your phone.
I'm having reception issues and would like to try the 5.18 update (with its included 1.35a.32.45.27_10.144.32.34a radio) but I require root (I read the thread here that says the WeakSauce Root works on the AT&T ONE X but am not sure about using an exploit that has to reroot on every boot, albeit automatic). Searching for rooting information for the latest AT&T 5.18 update, I came across this Chinese thread: Translated Chinese forum link. The OP includes the AT&T ROM, Chinese language pack file, Chinese APN file, and a root file. I can't read Chinese and there is much lost in the Google translation but from what I can tell this is the American AT&T 5.18 ROM, and at least one poster said the rooting worked.
My current setup is:
Ver: 4.1.1
ROM: 3.18.502.6.71ORD
HBOOT-2.14.0000
RADIO-0.24p.32.09.06
Bootloader unlocked, Super CID, S-OFF, rooted
Faked locked and S-ON status
1. My first and most important question is, being S-OFF with Super CID, If I update to 5.18 and I can't root it, can I still reflash with something else?
2. The root package (which I am attaching) is a zip. I assume after flashing 5.18 I'll have to flash a custom recovery by this means, "fastboot flash recovery recoveryfilename.img," correct?
3. I also assume the bootloader will be relocked and will need to be unlocked again. Can this be done by the normal method?
4. Will I need to Super CID again?
Thanks!
You're over thinking it. Since you are s-off, you can do almost anything, and not worry about having to root, SuperCID, unlock the bootloader, etc. again.
You also have several options:
a) Yes, you can run the 5.18 RUU if you like. I don't even think you have to relock the bootloader, since you are s-off. You will still be SuperCID and S-off after RUU. Although since RUU re-installs stock recovery, you will need to install TWRP again. At that point, you can always flash SU to root, and/or install custom ROMs.
b) If its just the radio you want to try, you can just install the 2.18 firmware: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2651052
This will keep your current ROM intact, but it might be your desire to update that anyway.
c) Just because a radio is newer, does not necessarily mean it will be "better" in your particular area. The "best" radio is often a trial and error exercise. Since you are s-off, you can flash any of the radios here to see if they yield any improvement: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1694012
Also, while a different radio may give some improvement, I won't expect any miracles. Might even find reception is worse.
@redpoint73
Thanks for the response, just what I was wanting to know... and yes, I often over think things. I"ll give 5.18 a try.
Also, the answers to your questions in blue font:
1. My first and most important question is, being S-OFF with Super CID, If I update to 5.18 and I can't root it, can I still reflash with something else?
Since you are s-off, you can still flash custom recovery, install custom ROMs, run older RUUs, etc. So there would be a variety of ways to revert, if you wanted to.
2. The root package (which I am attaching) is a zip. I assume after flashing 5.18 I'll have to flash a custom recovery by this means, "fastboot flash recovery recoveryfilename.img," correct?
If the intent of the method is to root a phone that was never bootloader unlocked (which is also the only reason you would ever need a new root exploit) then NO that doesn't make any sense. If the bootloader is locked, you can't flash custom recovery.
3. I also assume the bootloader will be relocked and will need to be unlocked again. Can this be done by the normal method?
With S-off, I don't believe you need to relock the bootloader to run the RUU.
4. Will I need to Super CID again?
No, you will still have SuperCID. This only gets changed if you do so deliberately. Same with S-off.
The above options are very good, but if you are interested in the weaksauce root method I can assure you it is very simple and hassle free. You won't even know its a "temp root" because it reroots on reboot instantly. The only downside, is that no custom roms or recoverys may be flashed to my knowledge. If this is a problem then I suggest using redpoint73's answer.
Also if you have luck, please let me know I would be interested and greatly thankful.
He doesn't need to root his device, he's already rooted. Did you not read the thread?
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I did indeed read the thread, he was asking about the weaksauce root method so i was explaining it to him. Also, if he updates to 5.18 he will need to root (that is of course if he chooses RUU). Bringing me to my next question, did you in fact not read the thread?
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I did indeed read the thread, he was asking about the weaksauce root method so i was explaining it to him. Also, if he updates to 5.18 he will need to root (that is of course if he chooses RUU). Bringing me to my next question, did you in fact not read the thread?
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He's already S-OFF, he does not need any root exploits -_- he can just flash su.
I flashed the 5.18 RUU without issue and was still bootloarder unlocked. S-OFF, and Super CID but did lose my faked locked and S-ON status. I then flashed TWRP then booted to recovery and when I went to reboot, TWRP asked if I wanted to root so I selected, yes. Upon booting into the system it went straight to Google Play and downloaded and installed SuperSU as TWRP said it would--rooted.
I still had the same signal issue with 5.18 ROM so I tried flashing several older radios but still had the same problem. When I got the phone (used) it had 2.20 ROM. Signal was not as good as my SGS3 or Lumia 920 but at least I could get a couple of bars sitting 12' from my repeater ( 3-4 bars on the other phones, no signal in my house without the repeater). After flashing up to 3.18 ROM I could no longer get a signal in my chair, only if I set the phone inches from the repeater. Since the initial flashing to 3.18 if I step inside my local Walmart (before the registers) I will have 3 bars LTE but when I dial after a few seconds it will lose all signal and the call will fail. Outside with 3 bars it works fine. I'm at a loss.
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I did indeed read the thread, he was asking about the weaksauce root method so i was explaining it to him. Also, if he updates to 5.18 he will need to root (that is of course if he chooses RUU). Bringing me to my next question, did you in fact not read the thread?
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Even if he updates to 5.18 he will not need any root exploits. He is s-off so he can run any RUU he likes without having to relock his bootloader. This means all he needs to do is flash a custom recovery afterwards, and flash SuperSU or Superuser.
If you're going to give advice here on the forums, bring your knowledge up a bit so that you are able to give advice that is accurate and relevant. Giving the wrong advice will at the very least send another user on a wild goose chase doing things that are irrelevant (like weaksauce), and worst case scenario you could end up bricking someone's phone. I doubt you want that on your conscience.
Sent from my Evita
Pop45398 said:
I flashed the 5.18 RUU without issue and was still bootloarder unlocked. S-OFF, and Super CID but did lose my faked locked and S-ON status.
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That makes sense. I believe the spoofed BL lock and S-on are hacked hboot. The RUU replaces (overwrites) hboot.
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I still had the same signal issue with 5.18 ROM so I tried flashing several older radios but still had the same problem. When I got the phone (used) it had 2.20 ROM. Signal was not as good as my SGS3 or Lumia 920 but at least I could get a couple of bars sitting 12' from my repeater ( 3-4 bars on the other phones, no signal in my house without the repeater). After flashing up to 3.18 ROM I could no longer get a signal in my chair, only if I set the phone inches from the repeater. Since the initial flashing to 3.18 if I step inside my local Walmart (before the registers) I will have 3 bars LTE but when I dial after a few seconds it will lose all signal and the call will fail. Outside with 3 bars it works fine. I'm at a loss.
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Keep in mind that comparing signal "bars" between different phones means nothing. There is no standard to what the bars even represent. You can read the signal strength (dBm) in Settings>About>Network.
But if I understand properly, its not just a matter of the "bars" but actual reception (dropped calls, etc.). If it worked fine on the 2.20 setup, did you try the radio associated with 2.20 (radio 0.19as.32.09.11_2_10.105.32.25)?
Also keep in mind that certain buildings do not play well with phones at all. Big box stores can be particularly notorious for this. Not sure what combination of concrete, steel, etc. interferes with cell signal, but I often get zero signal in Target, IKEA, etc. At the climbing gym where I go every week (not a huge building, but steel beams with concrete face) none of my friends get any signal regardless of phone (my HOX, iPhones, all on AT&T) when we are inside. Then we will get a flood of SMS messages the minute we walk out the building!
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Even if he updates to 5.18 he will not need any root exploits. He is s-off so he can run any RUU he likes without having to relock his bootloader. This means all he needs to do is flash a custom recovery afterwards, and flash SuperSU or Superuser.
If you're going to give advice here on the forums, bring your knowledge up a bit so that you are able to give advice that is accurate and relevant. Giving the wrong advice will at the very least send another user on a wild goose chase doing things that are irrelevant (like weaksauce), and worst case scenario you could end up bricking someone's phone. I doubt you want that on your conscience.
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He was the one who was looking for the root method, I just delivered. He was looking for a way to root, I gave it to him. You can the rest to him.
Yes, that's correct. But as respoint had said prior to you first responding he didn't need a root method. Plus, it's our responsibility as people giving advice here to firstly know what we're talking about, and secondly to steer someone in the right direction if they're on the wrong track. Not to just provide incorrect information because that's what they think they need to do.
My statement from earlier still stands, if you want to help people on here you need to bring your knowledge up a bit first. I'm not trying to be harsh, the fact is that accuracy and relevancy are absolutely paramount on XDA, providing incorrect information is dangerous. Please don't take that the wrong way! You're new here so welcome to our forum
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He was the one who was looking for the root method, I just delivered. He was looking for a way to root, I gave it to him. You can the rest to him.
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I agree with timmaaa on this. Its just my own opinion (but many others will likely agree) that any temp root solution (even one that re-temp roots with every boot) is inferior to a true permanent root. Especially when the temp root requires an app to be installed.
For the OPs particular case, WeakSauce looks to be more complicated (or at least more contrived) and less comprehensive solution than the s-off status and unlocked bootloader he already has. It probably would have made more sense to present the issue in a way such as: Yes, WeakSauce will work for temp root, but the other provided options are probably better choices.