Choosing A SD Card To Put Apps On - G1 Android Development

I have chosen the most best sdhc cards all class 6 to buy so I can do the guide to put apps on them
problem is I dont know if theres any factors or anything that might be on one of these cards that might cuase it not to work so if you guys can help me pick which ones here will work
8gb class-6:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820211342
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820208453
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820211341

i just picked up the sandisk ultra 8gb because ive had problems in the past with cheaper brands not meeting my expectations and reported speeds, im very happy with it so far.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820171389

I have the first one on that list (adata) and it works great with apps on sd.

I have the second one (Transcend) and it works great so far.

I have the A-data 8gb Class 6, and it works perfectly with apps migrated to it.

Hi,
I spent a little more to get the SanDisk Ultra Mobile and man the speeds on it are AMAZING!!
I thought my phone would run a lot slower with all of the apps on SD, but it actually runs noticeably faster!
Here's a link to the one I got, it's still under $20
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0017T2HWC
I couldn't find this one on Newegg.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820211341
I have this one and it works flawlessly

My phones speed increased a lot when I started using apps on sd with the adata 8g class 6. Seems these cards are a lot faster than the internal flash.

I'm running the apps off a partitioned Class 4 card and I'm not having any problems yet.

blackknightavalon said:
I'm running the apps off a partitioned Class 4 card and I'm not having any problems yet.
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I tried that, and it was super laggy on a Kingston 8GB Class 4.
I tried just moving a few non-I/O heavy apps and still was running into problems.
So I just manned up and paid the $15 for a class 6 card. Moved everything over to SD on Friday and am reasonably happy.....reasonably.
I still find a few things here and there that won't work from the SD card.

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The best 16gb class 6 to buy?

Looking to purchase a class 6 16gb microsd for my N1 today but which is the best one on amazon.com to purchase? I see a couple of different brands, any recommendations?
I bought a TOPRAM 16 GB Class 6 card and so far it has worked. I don't have much experience with SD/Micro SD cards so I can't say anything about it's performance, but it's worked good for me so far.
Please mention prices too..
ruineraz said:
I bought a TOPRAM 16 GB Class 6 card and so far it has worked. I don't have much experience with SD/Micro SD cards so I can't say anything about it's performance, but it's worked good for me so far.
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I bought a Topram 16 GiB Class 6 from Amazon for about $35, and it has worked beautifully. Sadly, though, transfer speeds via USB are still the same as the stock Class 2 (maybe a hair faster), so the limit is the interface itself. If I use the card in a reader, it's much faster, so it's not the card. This makes me think that the phone can't even utilize a faster card, as some others have insinuated on this forum.
willverduzco said:
I bought a Topram 16 GiB Class 6 from Amazon for about $35, and it has worked beautifully. Sadly, though, transfer speeds via USB are still the same as the stock Class 2 (maybe a hair faster), so the limit is the interface itself. If I use the card in a reader, it's much faster, so it's not the card. This makes me think that the phone can't even utilize a faster card, as some others have insinuated on this forum.
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My class 6 card gets over 4mb/s write speeds... but in my G1 it wouldn't get over 2mb/s. I thought this was resolved on the N1...
I've never heard of Topram...is it a reliable company?

Kingston SD cards

Has anyone here had any experience with kingston sd cards? Just bought a class 4 16g card from newegg for 35 including shipping.. The reviews were pretty good and I know theyre a pretty big company so I think i'll be ok but wanted to see if anyone here could confirm or deny this
*I'm just sayin...
ive got a pny 16 gig, and it works great. i know kingston makes good ram, so id imagine that a kingston sd card would be worth its money, and i cant see a big brand memory product being garbage, especially in 2011. that price is a win no matter what though.
How much was the card? I would love a bigger card. And what did y'all do to transfer memory from one card to the next?
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If you have the moola, get this from Newegg, it's Class 10 so faster speed
WINTEC 32GB Micro SDHC FileMate Mobile Professional SDHC Model 3FMUSD32GBC10-R
It's around $82.49 with free shipping.
I've read a few reviews on Wintec cards, and not a lot of them are good. They work fine at first, then start to degrade quickly. To top it off, people say that when they try to get it replaced through Wintec, Wintec claims that its user error or abuse.
PatrickHuey said:
How much was the card? I would love a bigger card. And what did y'all do to transfer memory from one card to the next?
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He said in the OP that its $35 and free shipping.
I have 16GB for two years already and now i bought 32 gb ... both are working well so far.
16gb are going from $22-$35 shipped right now - class 10 speeds. Pick one up if you are using the stock 8gb. I just ordered one myself.
I've used two different Kingston SD Cards. They worked well for me without any issues. My previous was an 8gb Kingston class 4 and I currently have a Kingston 16gb Class 4 card.
The 8GB is nearly 2 years old and is working just fine. Have used it in multiple cell phones and currently serves as a flash drive for work using an adapter. The 16gb works just as well with some added space.
icce007 said:
If you have the moola, get this from Newegg, it's Class 10 so faster speed
WINTEC 32GB Micro SDHC FileMate Mobile Professional SDHC Model 3FMUSD32GBC10-R
It's around $82.49 with free shipping.
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I heard to many horror stories about wintecs... I wanted somethin reliable
*I'm just sayin...
gbarayah said:
I've used two different Kingston SD Cards. They worked well for me without any issues. My previous was an 8gb Kingston class 4 and I currently have a Kingston 16gb Class 4 card.
The 8GB is nearly 2 years old and is working just fine. Have used it in multiple cell phones and currently serves as a flash drive for work using an adapter. The 16gb works just as well with some added space.
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Yea I went with the class 4 as from whhat I've heard anything higher doesn't yield much results (at least in a cell phone) but its working nice so far
*I'm just sayin...
I've also heard bad reviews about the wintec cards too. Let us know what you think about the Kingston.
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I bought a Kingston 8GB Class 4 MicroSDHC for my previous phone, the Nexus One, a year ago and I was very satisfied with it. It's way cheaper than the Sandisks and it works great so yeah, highly recommended!
ctraywick1 said:
Yea I went with the class 4 as from whhat I've heard anything higher doesn't yield much results (at least in a cell phone) but its working nice so far
*I'm just sayin...
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From my experience I would have to agree on the class. To be honest, I think even a quality class 2 card would do just fine on a mobile device.
The class is an indication of the minimum Write Speed (class 4 = 4mb/s class 6 = 6mb/s, etc) The Read speed is generally much higher than that, so even if you are running applications from the SD card, performance shouldn't be hindered by a lower class card.
The only instance I can think of that performance would be affected is if you record a lot of 720P video with your phone. In that case, a faster write speed *Should* help with stuttering issues.
Now if we were talking about a high end SLR camera, then hell yes, speed makes a huge difference. I run a Kingston Class 6 in my SLR and it handles everything just fine, including HD video.
Just my 2 cents...
Well,
What it really comes down to is how fast the SD card adapter is in our phones, which I haven't figured out yet. If it'll fully utilize a class 10 card in terms of max write speed, then I would totally go for a class 10 card.
Can anyone verify the max speed our phones could support? (No guesses, please)
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I like Samsung cards personally. The performance has always been well above it's rated speed, and I've never had one corrupt/fail on me.
When you have a spare 10mins then give this a read:
http://www.bunniestudios.com/blog/?p=918
Newegg says shipping is $9.99
convolution said:
Newegg says shipping is $9.99
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Must have been a promotion. My shipping was free. ANd to update everyone else it works like a charm. Dont really notice anything as far as normal phone function because I dont store apps on SD but My Titanium, Nandroid, and Just general SD backups to the PC are noticably faster.
Kingston is dead to me...
So, used to be a big proponent of Kingston, but they've seriously slipped over the last couple years (and not just flash, I've had major problems with their desktop memory, too, but that's a story for another forum). I bought the SDC4/32GB from Newegg. Supposed to be 32GB class 4 card. Wow. First one they sent wrote at 2MBps, read at 3MBps. Sent it in for a replacement, and I got one that wrote at 3MBps and read at 3.5MBps. Tried formatting it with my phone, with the official sdformatter utility, with Windows, with Linux, nothing helped. Third replacement was back down to 2/3MBps. Hardly class 4. And no, it wasn't my device or anything like that. I've got an actual class 4 8GB Sandisk card that came stock with my phone, and it does 5/7MBps on the same devices on which I tested the Kingston. And the Sandisk can record 720p without stuttering. Recordings from the Kingston were like watching a slideshow.
Very much done with that. Sent it back (again), got a refund, and now I've ordered that class 10 Wintec 32GB. Curious to see how it performs, and I'll stress it right away to see how it handles in the long run (do a bunch of writes and reads the first week to make sure it won't crap out right away). I'll report back here with my results, but they can't be worse than the Kingston. And from what I've read, it may be hit or miss, but when I get a hit, it'll be a class 10!

32GB SD cards

Anyone using a 32GB SDHC card in their Fascinate? Just asking because there's one on sale on the Newegg Shell Shocker later today (check at 10AM pacific time). Wondering about speeds and such, and whether Class 10 is worth it (seems like if you want to fill such a big card, it'd be nice to have the faster write speeds of Class 10 but I've seen some reports of incompatibilities/problems with C10 devices).
I was just benchmarking the card that came in my Fascinate (which is supposedly Class 2) with SD Tools and I get 5-8MB/s writes and 16-18MB/s reads which is way better than the Class 2 minimums. The one on the shell shocker is a Class 4 so I'm just wondering whether it'll be a downgrade in terms of speed (just because it's rated for significantly lower speeds than what I'm getting with the internal one). I'll probably end up getting it anyway because I've got ~1GB free on my current one and I want to play with an Ubuntu chroot install.
i got the sandisk 32g class 10 it was worth it. Seems to R/W faster but that maybe due to the SD card boost read ahead cache hack. I think mine is set to 512K. Whether its faster or not the extra space is always a plus
Guess ill find out the hard way with ya, bought one as well. Was also wandering about the speed difference. Noticed the one that came with was class 2 and the 32 was class 4, hoped it at least wouldn't be any worse as i am content with the speed of the included sd. Was really surprised to see that it was a class 2.
Oh well just have to wait until it gets here and see.
DO NOT BUY THE Patriot LX Class 10 32GB CARD!!!
After a few months of light usage (i hardly ever connected it to transfer anything, just had HD seasons of breaking bad, chuck, human target and sparta that I never had time to finish watching) I finally hooked it up for maybe the 6th time since i purchased it, and after transferring some music and more shows, i got a "Damaged SD Card" error. For the last month since that occurrence, I have had to reformat the card at least once a week, and set up my music and just a few episodes at a time (because whats the point of putting seasons on if i'll just have to transfer them over again in a few days) consistently. Sure, it moves along at 12MB/s, but certainly not worth the hassle.
This is not an issue that I have heard of with Class 2 or Class 4 32GB micro SDHC cards, and Patriot says they are working with Microsoft and Google to determine the cause of the issue, but Newegg reviews indicate that this is not an isolated incident.
Good luck with the SanDisk card!!!
Mhm, I got the A-Data 32GB class 4 from Newegg. I benchmarked it and it's not as amazing as the built in card (around 5-6MB/s write and 12MB/s read) but it's not super slow. Yeah, I ended up avoiding the Class 10 cards for that reason actually. It's nice to have so much free space now; I think I'm going to try installing Ubuntu in a chroot jail again.
The new PNY class 10 for tablets is now in stock at Newegg, just ordered one with free shipping.
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I got this exact card -- Just arrived yesterday.. I am getting AWFUL performance from it. I mean it performed like 3MB/s write and 8MB/s read.. It only fluxuated by about +-1MB with various SD read_ahead changes.. So disappointed. The worst thing is my phone is NOTICEABLY worse-off with the card in (weird stutters, etc).
Which leads me to something else altogether -- Has anyone noticed that with no SD card in the phone it just flies? I mean even the old SD card which didn't SEEM to give me any stutters was a matter of night and day with it in our out.
jt's CM7 Test Build 10 / EC09 radio / OBT .13 kernel @1400mhz
Old radio was EB01.
_______Update________
So I hadn't tried the card today with the EC09 radio (why should it make any difference?). It seems to have made a difference. Below are my results (with SD Booster app to change Read Ahead value, and AnTuTu benchmark just doing SD Card IO).
PNY 16GB MicroSDHC P-SDU16G10TEFS2
Read Ahead, AVG Write, AVG Read
4096, 6.4MB/s, 15.4MB/s
2048, 6.5MB/s, 15.4MB/s
1024, 6.5MB/s, 15.5MB/s
512, 6.0MB/s, 16.1MB/s
256, 7.4MB/s, 16.3MB/s
256 (2nd pass to verify), 7.4MB/s, 15.9MB/s
128, 6.9MB/s, 14.8MB/s
FAT32 / 16GB Partition
I hope this helps someone. Still not sure why my write speeds are so slow on Android when I've seen them hanging around 12MB/s in Windows (When using FAT32).
Patriot has a lifetime manufacturer warranty on most of their memory. You should contact them about getting a replacement. I run their RAM on my custom built personal pc. It is super stable. Just hoping to help.
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My 32 gig card doesn't even work in the fascinate at all
It works in my thunderbolt my transformer and my laptop... but no fascinate!!
Its so annyoing and I can't fins the problem
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I've used both the Patriot class 10 32gb card and the wintec 32gb class 10 card. Both have corrupted my data after a few days. Heard the sandisk and the lexar cards are good, so you may want to give them a shot.
Got the scandisk class 4 32gb and it's satisfactory
i was just about to buy a larger card when stumbling onto this post.
Does the read/write speed slow down as the card gets bigger in size?
cyonsinn said:
i was just about to buy a larger card when stumbling onto this post.
Does the read/write speed slow down as the card gets bigger in size?
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No, but I have found that cheaper/nonbranded cards tend to be slower. Read reviews before buying.
I've got a lexar 32gb class 10. It's absolutely terrible. It takes so long for pictures from the gallery to load after you take a picture for example. Anything using hte SD card is slow as molasses. Oddly every benchmark I throw at it shows high speeds, so I have no idea what is going on with it.
may be could try this (get rid the lba) could help the perfomance and compatibility ?
try read this thread (hope help), I'm not try it my self on my fasci, since my class 10 msd still on it's way send to me.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1010228
the author test it on motorola defy

Best 32GB Micro SD for Infuse

Hello...
What do I need to look for when purchasing a 32GB Micro SD card for the Infuse? A specific "class"? Speed? Etc?
Thanks...
Brian
I've read good things on sandisk 32 class 2 & 4. Im using a 16gb class 6 that I got from bb for 35 bucks. Works great.
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Anything not sold over ebay or amazon 3rd parties!
Does class really matter for a phone like the Infuse? I've read conflicting reviews, saying that anything over class 2 doesn't provide any benefit to the Infuse, and others who swear that anything below Class 6 is terrible for the Infuse. Are there any official stances on this?
I purchased the SanDisk 32GB Micro SDHC Flash Card Model SDSDQM-032G-B35N
and it is a class 2.
I copied the contents of my 16GB card to it and rebooted the phone. I'd say for the next 12-18 hours, it was very slow and choppy. But after that, and to this moment, it is working just fine.
Wonder what the slow down was after the initial install of it?
garak0410 said:
I purchased the SanDisk 32GB Micro SDHC Flash Card Model SDSDQM-032G-B35N
and it is a class 2.
I copied the contents of my 16GB card to it and rebooted the phone. I'd say for the next 12-18 hours, it was very slow and choppy. But after that, and to this moment, it is working just fine.
Wonder what the slow down was after the initial install of it?
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I'm looking to get the SanDisk class 2 32gb. Is it still acting fine for you? I also seen PNY class 10's "for tablets" for about $10 cheaper than the sandisk is. Wondering if I should go for that or stick with the SanDisk.
Happy with my class 2 32G SanDisk for the last two years
I've used it in a BB Bold, then the Captivate when it came out, and now on the Infuse.
It has always worked great, I manly use it for music storage, but also have about 6G of maps ( for using the GPS outside cell reception).
I'm very happy with it.
terra-starr said:
I've used it in a BB Bold, then the Captivate when it came out, and now on the Infuse.
It has always worked great, I manly use it for music storage, but also have about 6G of maps ( for using the GPS outside cell reception).
I'm very happy with it.
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Awesome. I think what I would use it for mostly is music and movies...The internal space should be plenty for apps/pics.
Dang, I didn't know of any 32 gb sd. I picked up a 16 a few weeks ago...thought it was the biggest.
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bella92108 said:
Does class really matter for a phone like the Infuse? I've read conflicting reviews, saying that anything over class 2 doesn't provide any benefit to the Infuse, and others who swear that anything below Class 6 is terrible for the Infuse. Are there any official stances on this?
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not sure how fast the infuse can read but i can tell you in actual benchmarks it is posible to have a class 2 read as fast as a class 6, many cheaper cards are faster than they are rated. also im pretty sure android is designed to minimize i/o. i guess it all depends on the complexity and size of the apps you run off of it and how fast the phone is. when someone says a class4 is good they are basically saying dont waist your money. i tend to agree with that.
I highly doubt the controller in the Infuse has a maximum transfer rate that even comes close to class 6 or maybe not even class 4. The only advantage to the high speed cards is if you put the card in your PC and copy files to it (assuming your SD reader can even handle the higher rates).
That being said I bought the A-Data class 10 16GIG because it was only $20 after coupon a couple weeks ago from Meritline but I have no doubt a class 4 or even 2 would be just fine with no noticeable performance difference.
It's no different that putting a SATA3 drive on a SATA2 controller.
MisterEdF said:
I highly doubt the controller in the Infuse has a maximum transfer rate that even comes close to class 6 or maybe not even class 4. The only advantage to the high speed cards is if you put the card in your PC and copy files to it (assuming your SD reader can even handle the higher rates).
That being said I bought the A-Data class 10 16GIG because it was only $20 after coupon a couple weeks ago from Meritline but I have no doubt a class 4 or even 2 would be just fine with no noticeable performance difference.
It's no different that putting a SATA3 drive on a SATA2 controller.
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yeah I may just go with the Sandisk 32gb class 2. It's about $12 more expensive than the Adata 32GB class 10's but those are sold out at the moment and Sandisk is a better company IMO anyway.
I've been using a Transcend 32GB Class4 Micro SDHC from newegg. It's amazing! It works great! Fast, large and just straight up works with the phone. Formatted memory for me is 31.6 gigs. Highly recommend it.
Adata 32GB Class 10 in my GS2, Infuse and Berry, no complains here. Transfer speeds much better than Class 2 card that came with phone...at least for my Berry that i regularly use transferring files for work.
MisterEdF said:
I highly doubt the controller in the Infuse has a maximum transfer rate that even comes close to class 6 or maybe not even class 4. The only advantage to the high speed cards is if you put the card in your PC and copy files to it (assuming your SD reader can even handle the higher rates).
That being said I bought the A-Data class 10 16GIG because it was only $20 after coupon a couple weeks ago from Meritline but I have no doubt a class 4 or even 2 would be just fine with no noticeable performance difference.
It's no different that putting a SATA3 drive on a SATA2 controller.
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Exactly this. Someone over in the HD2 section ran several VERY thorough tests confirming that there's very little difference in a class 2 or class 10 card unless you put the card in an adapter directly.
Fee454 said:
I'm looking to get the SanDisk class 2 32gb. Is it still acting fine for you? I also seen PNY class 10's "for tablets" for about $10 cheaper than the sandisk is. Wondering if I should go for that or stick with the SanDisk.
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Working fine? Depends...on a reboot, it can take 5-15 minutes for my apparently to appear. Manage Applications can take the same amount of time. And Market apparently are suddenly getting stuck in perpetual downloading.
But the apps launch and run fine. I have no idea if it is the card or not.
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Hi don't bump dead threads. Thanks.

class 4 microsd good enough for sensation?

Coming from HD2 with class 10 microsd. I had class 10 because android was installed in the sdcard (before the nand hack).
Now, since the sensation is running from internal, is a class 4 32GB good enough?
Coz I won one for $29 bux free shipping lol...
I think the phone comes with a stock 16gb class 2 card.
Edit. Found a thread that asks that question Lol.... Looks like it comes with a class 2.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=651438
bangsters said:
Coming from HD2 with class 10 microsd. I had class 10 because android was installed in the sdcard (before the nand hack).
Now, since the sensation is running from internal, is a class 4 32GB good enough?
Coz I won one for $29 bux free shipping lol...
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Depending on the usage your Class 4 may actually be better than a Class 10. The SD card class speeds were developed with a narrow focus on sequential write speed because that is that cameras/video cameras need in order to write the information to the card as it is being created by the camera. But when used in a phone you don't really use it in sequential read/write it is more often than not used with random read/write, and often lower class cards perform better in these tasks than higher class cards.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1150369
I have a 32gb class 4 card in my phone and its giving me no problems at all.
So in my experience its good to go
As someone who regularly likes to move giant files over, I appreciate the Class 10. If you're just moving music and stuff occasionally...you'll be fine.
Thanks. I was initially looking for a class 10. But since it was a steal at $29 bux with a minute left, I went ahead with the bid. didn't expect to win but I did, so might as well use it with the sensation
Very good programs for testing your memory are:
h2testw_1.4 in order to verify that the XXGB card you bought is actually XXGB
CrystalDiskMark3_0_1b in order to do a benchmark to see what is the real speed of your card. The apps on android are not reliable for these tests.
Once I get the card I'll post my feedback. Coming from a 16GB class10 hopefully I won't notice the difference.
I have a sandisk Micro SD 32Gb class4 for my HTC Sensation. So far so good, I have not found any problem with it . Also I bought it from HTC Showroom in Vietnam with a great deal (about $42 only)

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