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From their homepage:
4SmartPhone is experiencing technical difficulties. This is causing inflated loads on some of the machines, as a result making our website unresponsive.
Our technical personnel are diligently working towards resolving this issue. Due to these issues, the 4SmartPhone website will be temporarily unavailable.
We are well aware of the situation and so we ask you to not send an email to support. We sincerely apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused. We will keep all of you updated as often as we can.
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Both the Outlook Web Service, the normal Exchange Service, and the Push Mail Service have all been unavailable for over 48 hours and I'm starting to wonder if they're going to be coming back at all.
AND --- this is the second time this has happened within 2 months.
Drat.
Dwimmerlaik said:
From their homepage:
Both the Outlook Web Service, the normal Exchange Service, and the Push Mail Service have all been unavailable for over 48 hours and I'm starting to wonder if they're going to be coming back at all.
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I stupidly thought that my device was having problems so I removed the 4smarphone settings (which removed all my email/contacts/tasks/calendar entries from my PDA)... Got home and found out OWA and Outlook sync didn't work either. So I'm stuck!
This is pretty bad... they haven't answered my support email and the website notice - simply stating only the 'website' only is down - is highly unprofessional.
I wonder whether it has anything to do with their recent upgrade to Exchange 2007?
It looks like the service is back online as of 5:00 PM Pacific. I received the following in an email message:
Dear 4SmartPhone Customer,
Over the past two days we have experienced a rather serious crash on one of our Exchange Servers.
We are very sorry for any inconvenience this problem has caused you, but we are pleased to report that we have fixed the problem and taken all steps to ensure it will not happen again. Here are some things you will notice in the next few days:
1) Although it is now possible to connect to your mailbox again, it will only contain your new emails.
2) You can now send and receive emails.
3) Within the next few days, we will bring all original emails back on the Server.
4) Pro & Enterprise Clients can use their local copy in Offline Mode, and you must switch to connected mode to send & receive email. We will send a link to help you understand in a following email.
5) In addition, we are taking the following steps concerning the current Exchange 2003 servers: 4SmartPhone is rolling out more reliable Exchange 2007 on a brand new architecture; The fact that Exchange 2007 is more robust and combined with the new architecture, any failure are less likely, simpler and faster to recover from should we have to.
4SmartPhone sincerely appreciates your business. To demontrate our appreciation, your patronage, patience and trust in our service, we would like to extend a free month's service to you. We will automatically add the free month onto your contract. If you have any additional questions, please email us at [email protected] ,
Thank you.
4SmartPhone IT staff.
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I've been able to access new mail in my mailbox since around 5:00 PM Pacific, but all of my old mail is missing (as they indicated in thier message). I suspect it'll get populated from backups over the next day or so.
Not only is all the old mail missing, EVERYTHING is missing, CONTACTS, CALENDAR, MAIL.
EVERYTHING!
Anyone got there data back already? I still haven't and I am starting to get worried.
I haven't either.
If you access your accout via Outlook, then you probably already have a backup of your data in your OST file (file used by Outlook to store a local "cached" copy of your mailbox). I've been considering just exporting all of the data from my OST file into a PST file and then importing it into the new mailbox; however, I'm concerned that doing so may complicate the data migration 4Smartphone already has planned since the current mailbox is really only a "temporary" one.
Any Exchange experts want to comment??
Oh my gosh that sound horrible! 48 hours plus down! I have given 4smartphone.net a couple of trials in the past but always ended up going with other services, mainly due to the lack of a control panel with some extra user settings at 4smartphone.
Thank goodness I did not sign up!
Although I have used a fair few Exchange services I am definitely not an expert. This is critical stuff and I would not want to give incorrect advice. But to attempt a little reassurance, 4smartphone state in their FAQ that they run a full real-time "mirror" back-up of all data, plus an additional daily tape backup for long term protection.
It is almost certain that ALL data will be restored to your accounts, but they are a big company and with a lot of data. If they were down for 2 days this could take several more (at least) to fix and fully restore everything.
Also, most email servers keep attempting delivery for about 2 days, so messages that could not get through should still arrive... hopefully. Worst case they will bounce back to the sender with a message saying they couldn't be delivered so people know there was a outage and will hopefully resend.
Once you have data back I would suggest looking at other services... and I would try and pick one that specifies they have co-location if possible i.e Datacenter 1 is in Phoenix, Datacenter 2 mirrors everything in Norway or where ever.
I have used 1 and 1. I would not call them "good" and customer support is extremely weak. But they do have servers in the US, the UK and Germany. It would be quite hard for them to lose all their systems as they are just so huge. But I am sure there are much better services. I guess another reason I might pick 1 and 1 over 4smartphone is 1 and 1 let you have Outlook right away and it doesn't interfere with your right to cancel if you are dissatisfied. They also bill in just 3 month blocks. 4smartphone make you pay for the full year before you get Outlook. Many handhelds still only come with Outlook 2002 so many people really need at least the 03 version or it is not possible to check out the account properly (You have to have 03 at least to fully use the features of Exchange)
Take this is a reminder to have your own independent back up stategies. For example, I do not have my various domains registered with the same companies that do my hosting... I have an account with a domain reg company seperately. That way, if the hosting crashes, I can quickly set up another account elsewhere and point my DNS records at the new nameservers.
I also do not use Exhange as my primary account. My email accounts are hosted elsewhere and forward to Exchange for Direct Push. So I just have it for Push and as an archive. I have everything on my PC too.
Actually, I go one step further, I don't actually use Outlook for email (other than Push. It is probably a great email client at this point, but it has not always had a stellar history. I prefer Thunderbird. That's just me.
I also always retain offline data on my local PC and back it up every day or so (if only by dragging a copy of outlook.ost to another folder and dating it).
I also use a back up program on my handheld and use it daily.
If my Exchange hosting crashed with a total loss, all I would lose is the ability to use direct push temporarily. I would not lose a grain of data.
End of the day, there is only one person who really truly cares about your data and can take charge of protecting it.. YOU! Don't leave that solely to anyone else!
Sound like hell. Sympathies to all involved. Hope it is fully resolved very soon.
Edit: Here is the link to the list of MS Hosted Exchange Partners on their website. Might be useful to anyone considering looking at other providers:
http://www.microsoft.com/serviceproviders/solutions/catalog.aspx
Thanks for you detailed answer.
Actually, I DO have a backup. A REAL backup, not just the OST file. The last few days will be missing tho. I guess I will survive.
4smartphone ain't half bad WHEN it works. And even this crash would not have been so bad, if they just had kept us informed. They have not responded to 3 mails I sent. I understand they will have been inundated with mail, but then they should just post some kind of LATEST NEWS or UPDATE or whatever on their site.
Anyway, they just sent me a mail stating that all data WILL be restored, but that it could take another 48 hours.
Thanks again.
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It is almost certain that ALL data will be restored to your accounts, but they are a big company and with a lot of data. If they were down for 2 days this could take several more (at least) to fix and fully restore everything.
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Take this is a reminder to have your own independent back up stategies. For example, I do not have my various domains registered with the same companies that do my hosting... I have an account with a domain reg company seperately. That way, if the hosting crashes, I can quickly set up another account elsewhere and point my DNS records at the new nameservers.
I also do not use Exhange as my primary account. My email accounts are hosted elsewhere and forward to Exchange for Direct Push. So I just have it for Push and as an archive. I have everything on my PC too.
I also always retain offline data on my local PC and back it up every day or so (if only by dragging a copy of outlook.ost to another folder and dating it).
I also use a back up program on my handheld and use it daily.
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Mail2web also down!?!?!
Last night mail2web was also down. I had experienced huge delays (of hours!!!) and some message skipping.
Something weird is going on in the mail service providers kingdom!
mail2web down as well??!! That is freaky. Is this a 2007 upgrade induced horror that is going to bite us all? Hopefully I am just being paranoid (I do tend to be!).
nispen, I do apologize if it sounded like I was wagging my finger like you didn't know to back up your stuff! Of course you do - and that wasn't what I meant. I was sincerely symphathesing and that was about the only half-constructive thing I could throw in
I completely agree that communication from the company is key. ANY service, can have a crisis, no matter how good their continency plans. If they do a really good job keeping customers in the loop when it happens it could even leave me feeling positive about them. It would be more like, "wow this is bad, but these guys do care and I can see they are really breaking a sweat to fix this and it makes me trust them to resolve a crisis... which will inevitably happen to every company sometime".
But the generic "sorry for any inconvenience " notices would tick me off. I would want to hear regular updates with more specifics. Wouldn't even matter if I didn't understand the tech jargon involved. I just want to know that hour by hour they know what they are doing and are making specific progress.
Good to hear your data is going come back. Best of luck
No worries, no fingerwagging detected!
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nispen, I do apologize if it sounded like I was wagging my finger like you didn't know to back up your stuff! Of course you do - and that wasn't what I meant. I was sincerely symphathesing and that was about the only half-constructive thing I could throw in
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mail2web has been down since last Thur, and the outage continues, just got a reply from [email protected] saying they are still "trying" to fix the problem. So if 4smartphone is down and mail2web is down at around the same time, may be both of them have upgraded to MS Exchange 2007 at around the same time. If so, that say so much about Ex 2007 and WM5 push email, it is far from a mature and stable product.
Blackberry then has nothing to fear for the rest of this year.
For the non-Blackberry folks, IMAP IDLE is the way to go, it is fast and reliable, and almost free.
And for the less time discerning/sensitive folks, POP is the way to go. Just set the auto retrieval to every 5 min or 10 min.
Mail2web/4Smartphone vs. Blackberry vs. Idle vs...
I am also here strugling with mail2web. After my subscription, the first two weeks were ok, but then last week (or maybe in the end of the week before) it all started to fail.
The service is intermitent now. And delays of up to 3 hours are common.
I've used BB Connect but could not make it work in WM6 roms (I now there is a how-to-hack available, but I could not handle it alright). Also, I do not like much that BB Connect steals my GPRS connection and that whenever I want to use other network applications I have to disconnect from blackberry.net APN and connect to my operators'.
So I prefer to make a redirection of my work emails to another account.
That account could be an IMAP idle capable I have, but the problem is that poutlook does not handle idle and I didn't like much to have poutlook AND another client such as the good flexmail (which is a complete but also heavy app).
So I am now stuck here with not many options, except hoping that mail2web staff manages to overcome the difficulties they currently have. If the service works alright, I believe I would certainly upgrade my free subscription and begin using only mail2web as my 2nd email address...
Some very valid points being raised here which are worthy of more discussion. May I suggest we maybe think about breaking this up into separate threads though for clarity? This thread is essentially an immediate check in as to which Exchange servers are giving people grief (and it sounds like a rough ride, many sympathies to those affected).
Blackberry does seem robust, but I am not clear about it's full capabilties when used on WM devices. Be gr8 to discuss it more so I can learn!
Exchange has has some very powerful features (if it is working) but there is just as much I dislike about it! Only being able to send from one email address and frequent false positives for Spam when it's mail is received by some Linux based mail servers are among my gripes!
IMAP IDLE is cool. My experience is limited to vgsmail/ppc and Webis Flexmail. vgsmail is still sold I believe but not longer developed and I have found it very incomapatible with my more recent devices. I also bought Flexmail but found it very buggy at the time. To be fair it is being actively developed still further and supported and is sure to get better - may have done so already. I have also found that there seems to be slightly different deployments of IMAP IDLE and not all servers appear to give equal results... that is all way beyond my technical grasp though.
Then again there are also Exchange alternatives (not sure how they do on push) like - I might have these names wrong, Zimbra, Open X-change (or something like that. Plus there is SyncML and Funambol ( I know I have that spelled wrong.. someone please help me!).
What do you good people think! Should we maybe split this into threads (or even make use of existing ones and share the links around so we all know where to look?). I would really like to be able to review the options, but it would also be good to keep this forum fasirly organized and readable!
I'm looking for a client that's as good as the iPhone mail client. I'd like it to support multiple exchange accounts as well as render html based email properly. Also an email client that will render all emails proportionally so I don't have to scroll left and right on an email unless I zoom in. Also supporting pinch to zoom would be great. I've tried K9 but was left unsatisfied on it's implementation... what are the better clients on Android?
I'm in the same conundrum(though not for exchange accounts, mostly IMAP).
Tried k9, which fails quite bad and maildroid, which is just slow. Finalyl just settled on the Samsung Mail app that came with my Galaxy S. I'm sure you can find an APK for it around somewhere if you have a different phone.
It's as close to the iPhone mail prgram as I can find on Android
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I'm in the same conundrum(though not for exchange accounts, mostly IMAP).
Tried k9, which fails quite bad and maildroid, which is just slow. Finalyl just settled on the Samsung Mail app that came with my Galaxy S. I'm sure you can find an APK for it around somewhere if you have a different phone.
It's as close to the iPhone mail prgram as I can find on Android
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I don't understand how any could could be disappointed in K9 Mail, it works flawlessly for me. The GUI is simple yet intuitive and presents the right information at the right time, it ALWAYS works, it's fast, it uses VERY little battery, it supports a great deal of functionality.
The GUI between 2 and 3 got even better adding "Move to Archive" and such type buttons, making common actions easier to do.
One more big plus; Tasker supports it, so you can act on incoming emails, send email, etc via K9.
Only two things it's missing IMO..
Per-folder alerts (I combine all emails (forwarded) into one, and most of them go into specific folders) would be nice, but I've done this in Tasker now so no biggie here.
Second, if you move mail to a folder you don't sync, it stays local and doesn't clean up. IE: If you move Trash mail to the server Trash folder, it moves on the server and on the mail client. However it never gets purged in K9 after X days or after the server deletes it if you don't sync that folder. So what I've done is I sync a few such folders once a day.
FYI, I use Dovecot for my IMAP server, one mailbox IDLE, 4-5 sync once a day. I use Tasker to turn off Syncing at night and have K9 set to not sync when it's disabled so at night K9 doesn't receive mails, turns back on in the morning for me. And when I get certain emails in (based on subject, sender, etc) Tasker alerts me in special ways.
I don't really use the encryption/signing functionality, but it also works quite well paired with APG.
I just don't see why anyone wouldn't like it if they use IMAP. I assume POP would be a similar experience. Exchange can DIAF.
I swear by K9 Mail. Best email app I've ever used. Bonus for being open-source and updated frequently too.
If you are not satisfied with the market release version of K-9 you can always DL a newer version from the development web site.
You can view changes by clicking on the source tab and then the changes sub-tab.
I used K9 as my default email client on the Mytouch 3G. It is a really good, strong, and full of features application. I highly recommend it. Right now I'm using the default that came with the Mytouch 4G because it fits my needs.
Theres always Touchdown and this another one that I can't recall name of if you want to go paid route , K9 does everything and more for me so i've no complaints, The iphone mail app is PATHETIC! look for samsung mail (social mail app) if you want but so far the best is K9 and touchdown for exchange
The stock mail app on my Captivate can't access Yahoo!mail on WIFI and when I tried K9, it slowed my phone down to a crawl. Everything lagged so badly I had to uninstall after less than an hour. And yeah, lag disappeared right after I uninstalled K9.
SO yeah, I, too, am looking for a good mail app.
Try Seven.....it's been working great for me.
seven.com
A non-working link (you forgot the www) is a bad way to promote an app
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A non-working link (you forgot the www) is a bad way to promote an app
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yeah, so, seven.com works by itself, and any website that REQUIRES www. is super lame anyway.
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A non-working link (you forgot the www) is a bad way to promote an app
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He wasn't promoting an app. He was trying to help by suggesting a program he likes.
If you are to lazy to cut and paste or type it in, then just hi on using the email program you use now.
try seven... it's the default mail client that comes on all of the galaxy phones.
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He wasn't promoting an app. He was trying to help by suggesting a program he likes.
If you are to lazy to cut and paste or type it in, then just hi on using the email program you use now.
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Thanks dude...I figured smart people could figure out that I left the "WWW" out being I can't post links yet.
Again Seven works great for me. Try it.....
K-9 for sure.
K9 works good but not with Exchange 2010
Or there's always my app! Link is in my sig. I'm constantly working on it so new stuff is being added all the time.
For me without doubt Maildroid
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.maildroid&feature=search_result
Does seven work with any phone
I use Kaiten Mail. Its made by the same developers as K9 I believe but its more intuitive
Tapatalkin' it from my Epic 3g
Okay,
I traded my iPhone yesterday for the Captivate as soon as I saw I could flash to Froyo 2.2.
I configured my hosted exchange (sherweb.com) and it was pretty sluggish (unbearable to be blunt). I knew I was going to upgrade to 2.2 as I want/need tethering and mobile hot spot so I used one-click Odin and did the upgrade. It went very smoothly.
After reconfiguring for hosted exchange server access, the thing is still unbearable to use on my exchange account. In my task manager, every time I look, the process is using:
45+ MB RAM
80-90% CPU usage
Any ideas what the problem is? FYI, I'm a total newby. This is my first Android device after 2 years on the iPhone. I don't want to go back to the iPhone but this issue is a dealbreaker for me. Ugh.
Thanks!
Well I can tell you that I am using 2.2 with exchange 2003 and when in the mail App I show 1% cpu and 10 mb memory.
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Okay,
I traded my iPhone yesterday for the Captivate as soon as I saw I could flash to Froyo 2.2.
I configured my hosted exchange (sherweb.com) and it was pretty sluggish (unbearable to be blunt). I knew I was going to upgrade to 2.2 as I want/need tethering and mobile hot spot so I used one-click Odin and did the upgrade. It went very smoothly.
After reconfiguring for hosted exchange server access, the thing is still unbearable to use on my exchange account. In my task manager, every time I look, the process is using:
45+ MB RAM
80-90% CPU usage
Any ideas what the problem is? FYI, I'm a total newby. This is my first Android device after 2 years on the iPhone. I don't want to go back to the iPhone but this issue is a dealbreaker for me. Ugh.
Thanks!
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Not sure what the particular problem is in your case but it's obviously not right. Keep in mind this Froyo ROM is a leak and it has a number of issues, exchange support being one of them. There is a replacement Email.apk from an I9000 Froyo ROM that I am using in place of the app that was in our leaked ROM. It seems to work pretty well so far. Check the threads on exchange issues with JI6 Froyo and you should find the thread on replacing the Email client.
I have mine syncing mail, contacts and calendar, I have it set to 30 days, and it is pointing to Exchange 2003... it is only using 13 MB memory.
I am not sure what is going on with yours. Are you still in the initial sync?
I'm using Exchange 2007. My mailbox is about 2.5GB and I was syncing 2 weeks (10kb, but even tried headers only). I had the same issue before I flashed to Froyo.
Interesting question about the initial sync. Not sure how to tell if/when the initial sync is done. It was running at high CPU usage for several hours and overnight. It is basically unusable like this.
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I'm using Exchange 2007. My mailbox is about 2.5GB and I was syncing 2 weeks (10kb, but even tried headers only). I had the same issue before I flashed to Froyo.
Interesting question about the initial sync. Not sure how to tell if/when the initial sync is done. It was running at high CPU usage for several hours and overnight. It is basically unusable like this.
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The email app Samsung picks (not sure who develops it) is very slow on sync emails. If you have a lot of emails to sync, that's what you probably going to get. I never sync beyond 3 days. And I delete a lot of the emails in inbox as much as possible.
The beauty of Android is that you can try different email apps. For exchange sync, the best option is Touch Down (the UI maybe a little bit old style). There is also K9 for email only.
Okay, so far I've tried just about every mail app I know. I wonder if I've missed any...
In-built app:
- Basic functionality
Moxier:
- Doesn't send any emails! (useless error msg and no help from web)
- No decent widgets
- Clunky interface
RoadSync/Touchdown:
- Horrible interface
- Cannot select multiple recipients!
Surely there must be a client out there like the HTC Desire client that actually works well and gives proper functionality.
Or am I missing something??
Ferg.
code.google.com/p/k9mail/ has always worked for me with MSN, AOL and Yahoo.
Seven is the best one I have tried so far...
http://community.seven.com/main.php
Touchdown allows multiple recipients.
The interface is clunky though, especially in dual-pane mode. Still, I always end up going back to Touchdown for my corp email. It just works.
I am using K-9 mail and its running like charm.
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fergusstrachan said:
Surely there must be a client out there like the HTC Desire client that actually works well and gives proper functionality.
Or am I missing something??
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Please define "proper functionality".
Ah, I guess by proper functionality I mean:
- Easy to access buttons for manipulating emails
- Can sync more than 1 month worth of email
- Can set periods for syncing (Push during the day, off at night)
- Doesn't show email text incredibly small (seemingly at random) and then not word-wrap properly
- Actually moves/deletes objects when you ask it to, not when it manages to contact the Exchange server again
etc.
There are a lot of shortcomings with the in-built app, I think.
I forgot to mention I'm using Activesync, not Gmail/Hotmail or POP3 etc.
Thanks for the suggestions everyone; I'll check them out.
Ferg.
ZoinksS2k said:
Touchdown allows multiple recipients.
The interface is clunky though, especially in dual-pane mode. Still, I always end up going back to Touchdown for my corp email. It just works.
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Yeah, the interface is very clunky, and annoying that when you first start it it wastes most of the screen with the preview pane (which I don't think you can switch off permanently).
Multiple recipient - if I remember correctly, you can't multi-select from the address book. Am I mistaken?
If you can use IMAP with your Exchange server (and I doubt that'd be an issue at most companies), K-9 mail probably fits most of what you're looking for. I use it with Push for my Exchange account, and it's pretty much instant and doesn't waste battery polling for mail. You can enable larger buttons for multi-select and starring mail, and I find it to be pretty decent. Now I wish it would do the landscape view that the Samsung app does, but otherwise, I love it.
Is there any way to copy and paste in the standard email app?
BuglessFan said:
If you can use IMAP with your Exchange server (and I doubt that'd be an issue at most companies), K-9 mail probably fits most of what you're looking for. I use it with Push for my Exchange account, and it's pretty much instant and doesn't waste battery polling for mail.
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TBH, it's unlikely IMAP will use less battery than ActiveSync. AS sends only a small amount of data every 15mins or so to keep the session open; IMAP's the one that needs to poll constantly. Unless it's IMAP Idle, which Exch doesn't do.
Not sure I can/would want to use IMAP on my hosted Exchange account but I guess it's an option. Just a bit married to AS, what with it being my job. ;-)
Geletis said:
Is there any way to copy and paste in the standard email app?
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If you long-press in the body, it gives you a kind of select thing, but it's hit and miss. Sometimes seems to select a whole line, in which case you touch it again and it copies it; sometimes gives you the nice select tool that you can expand etc but no way I can see of copying the text!
i use k9 and i like it. except strangely on the tab when i reply to all, i also get the reply (which annoys me a bit). yet on my N1 k9 doesn't behave this way.
The IMAP is done through PUSH, not PULL, so it's not sending anything until the server tells it it has something for it (well, technically I think it's set to every 60 minutes send a small ping to keep things alive, but only if it hasn't gotten any messages for 60 minutes). AS is great when it's set up. I actually run my own Exchange server at home (actually 2000 still running on an old dual P3 box that keeps chugging away), and it's a lot easier in a small environment to configure/maintain IMAP over AS there. I love AS when IT has to maintain it for me though, and when I have a device. Maybe I'll have a big ARM tablet running Windows Next using AS
dahuzi said:
I am using K-9 mail and its running like charm.
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+1. I've always liked the K9 client.
Cool to see I am not the only one complaining...
I come from a TP2 and a great Exchange 2010 setup. The terrible email client of the Tab makes me regret my efficient TP with pocket outlook from WM6.5
Honestly pOutlook is an incredibly good email client. I never realized until I got my tab...
Then we need a serious calendar app and a serious contact app
Disappointing software on Android so far... (It's my first Android device)
Aye, I think all of the Android mail apps are comparatively poor except the Desire one.
But I don't regret swapping WM for Android in a million years. Battery life, rebooted to keepit going,buggy **** software...
Bugless - okay, so I guess it's IMAP idle you're using. I don't have that option, although standard IMAP would work it's not ideal.
Poo. Just have to put IP with the native client or Touchdown.
ZoinksS2k said:
Touchdown allows multiple recipients.
The interface is clunky though, especially in dual-pane mode. Still, I always end up going back to Touchdown for my corp email. It just works.
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Zoinks, I can ENTER multiple recipients, but cannot SELECT multiple recipients from any address book.
Am I missing something, or is this the case? If that's the way it's meant, that makes it useless. :-(
Try "Seven". Only available as a beta at the moment I think, but you can get it from:
http://www.seven.com/howtoget.html
Seems like a good app. Will sync contacts & calendar to the local device too, also works as an IM app for GTalk and MSN.
knightnz said:
Try "Seven". Only available as a beta at the moment I think, but you can get it from:
http://www.seven.com/howtoget.html
Seems like a good app. Will sync contacts & calendar to the local device too, also works as an IM app for GTalk and MSN.
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May be, but it says it only works through OWA..! Seems a weird way to access Exchange in this day and age. Must have been to stingey to pay for the ActiveSync licence.
Which one would drain less battery on this phone? I know Beejive and Trillian use push services to send you messages... what does Talk use? Just trying to save the most battery I can...
Thanks
Funny... i was about to post a similar question.. Trillian vs Beejive.
Ive been using both.. tried trillian today... seems to work better reason why-> you can suspend the app and it will keep you logged in and send you an email if someone sends a message, then you just reopen the app. Beejive was able to do that on the iphone.... weird.. i didnt see that feature in the android version.
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Funny... i was about to post a similar question.. Trillian vs Beejive.
Ive been using both.. tried trillian today... seems to work better reason why-> you can suspend the app and it will keep you logged in and send you an email if someone sends a message, then you just reopen the app. Beejive was able to do that on the iphone.... weird.. i didnt see that feature in the android version.
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They both use push services though. Beejive has been more reliable for me.
GTalk will drain your battery - I found this out when it was left on by accident on the day the TB was activated.
Not sure why but Skype didn't drain as fast. Imo also didn't drain as fast. I'll be testing both Jivetalk and Trillian and will probably buy the latter because of the desktop sync which is unusual in this arena and a colleague tells me it actually seems to work.
I've been using trillian for now, as most of the others I've used don't use the push messaging, and we all know that's a horrible battery drain without that activated.
The thing I don't like though is that if I lose data for a second, and reconnect, it triggers all messages that I've read already as new IMs and sets the notification, which is quite annoying.
I'll look into Beejive. Trillian is the nicest app I've used so far, but it's really picky with data connections. There are times where it just doesn't want to let me log in at all, even though I can get a working data connection just fine.
I leave google talk running all the time, I dont have battery draining problems
I still use Palringo, which I love
I am trying beejive again to see batt life whileon 3g...
Cant believe all the crying about this app costing $10bux while i was searching around for reviews and comparisons. I think this is the first app i bought as soon as i got the phone.