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Re-install programs after rom udate

Can I use a backup program to reinstall applications after a rom update. I have tested every rom that came out but manually reinstalled all the apps after rom update. Any help would be great.
Thanks ,
Victoria

That's not a good idea: if the registry structure has been changed, from the previous rom to the new one, when you restore your backup, it can really mess things up!

Thanks for the quick reply. its a pain to do the installs on my jasjar but its double with the O2 exec XDA as well. Best to do it the wright way

I use the Rom upgrade utility from Sprite and it does the job always. No issues yet. Follow the instructions to the letter though..

I use SpbBackup with great results, but like vmiguel said, you shouldn't restore backups between ROM flashes as it restores ALL settings and registry entries, and this aint a good idea unless on the same ROM.

U shld freshly install every app after a clean ROM upgrade as it would also speed up ur device.

i have a question.
All softwares work good for WM5 will work on WM6?
Thanks

lonelyboy2003 said:
i have a question.
All softwares work good for WM5 will work on WM6?
Thanks
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That depends on the software. Most work well, others require WM6 support.

SPB BAckup... and it is in my folder....
try

Unistalling program from the rom

I am running XDA Mobile 6 r3 by mfrazzz, I love it... Good job Frazzz!!!!
What I want to do or know if its possible the rom still has a lot of programs that I dont use... even the lite version... is there any way to uninstall the programs I dont want... they do not show up in the add remove program list

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You can't. That's why it's called rom. (read only memory). the only way is cook your own rom. If you like mfrazzz's rom then you can recook it.
Hope this helps.

macaraballojr said:
I am running XDA Mobile 6 r3 by mfrazzz, I love it... Good job Frazzz!!!!
What I want to do or know if its possible the rom still has a lot of programs that I dont use... even the lite version... is there any way to uninstall the programs I dont want... they do not show up in the add remove program list
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Why do you want to remove it? If you don't like it, don't use it. If you don't want to see it in the program files, then remove the .lnk file and you don't have to see it.
Understand that the rom area is an area that you can't get to. So those programs being on your phone don't cause you to have less space on your device (you can't use that area anyway). So install the lite version and remove shortcuts you don't want to see.
Or as suggested, dump the rom with a kitchen, and pull out what you don't want, and then rebuild the rom and flash it...

mfrazzz said:
Why do you want to remove it? If you don't like it, don't use it. If you don't want to see it in the program files, then remove the .lnk file and you don't have to see it.
Understand that the rom area is an area that you can't get to. So those programs being on your phone don't cause you to have less space on your device (you can't use that area anyway). So install the lite version and remove shortcuts you don't want to see.
Or as suggested, dump the rom with a kitchen, and pull out what you don't want, and then rebuild the rom and flash it...
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Spoken like a true 'WIZARD' haha

Follow up: Light vs Loaded
Hi, MFazz.
You're touching on an interesting issue here. Let's consider two versions of your R3: Light and Loaded. Do they have (roughly) the same speed, same storage memory and same program memory?...
BTW, I'm getting ready to try your R3, and am wondering: there used to be R3a, right? I can't seem to find it.
And lastly, are you by chance planning R4?
Many thanks!
mfrazzz said:
Why do you want to remove it? If you don't like it, don't use it. If you don't want to see it in the program files, then remove the .lnk file and you don't have to see it.
Understand that the rom area is an area that you can't get to. So those programs being on your phone don't cause you to have less space on your device (you can't use that area anyway). So install the lite version and remove shortcuts you don't want to see.
Or as suggested, dump the rom with a kitchen, and pull out what you don't want, and then rebuild the rom and flash it...
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Question regarding NET Framework 3.5

Does this update from Microsoft can be installed to my SD Card? Any real advantages of installing this new version?
I remember updating my previous devices from version 1 to version 2, and it installed to the MAIN Memory, thus eating up my precious RAM.
Can anyone shed some light? I don't want to try it and then will end up hard resseting later.

the only thing it does it to make your device able to run .net programs compiled for
.net3.5 it should not change anything for older .net1.1 or .net2 compiled apps

Rudegar said:
the only thing it does it to make your device able to run .net programs compiled for
.net3.5 it should not change anything for older .net1.1 or .net2 compiled apps
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Thank you very much. I won't install it then. My apps don't use the new version anyway.

Basic questions regarding Android ROMS.

sorry if these have been asked many times before, i've searched but cannot find much about it.
new to Android, coming from a WM for the past 8 years background its all foreign to me.
1) what is "adb" and how does it differ from "RC"'s? I presume RC's are just different build numbers for Android.
2) whats the difference between Haykuro, JF's builds? are any of them cupcake? how can i think about them in terms of Windows Mobile roms?
3) if I install one of the above, will the over the air updates still work? if there is an update to the OS (ie cupcake if the rom isnt) can this be applied at all or will i need to "lose everything" and wipe/flash to the new one?
again sorry for the n00byness.

1) what is "adb" and how does it differ from "RC"'s? I presume RC's are just different build numbers for Android.
adb is a way of telnet'ing from your pc to the phone, this gives you root access.
2) whats the difference between Haykuro, JF's builds? are any of them cupcake? how can i think about them in terms of Windows Mobile roms?
Haykuro and JF's builds are based on the android development branch, they are basicly updates that are based on googles on going improvements to the phones OS. Hayjuro's is based on a port from the upcomming saphire phone. Treat them as different "flavours" like schnaps etc
3) if I install one of the above, will the over the air updates still work? if there is an update to the OS (ie cupcake if the rom isnt) can this be applied at all or will i need to "lose everything" and wipe/flash to the new one?
Current custom roms change the signing keys so OTA updates are not updated onto the phone. You would have to manualy change the rom yourself.
Hope this helps
Imp

thanks,
by ADB i meant (as in the JF threads) there are three diff versions rc33 rc9 and ADB1.1
also if having to reflash with new version, presumably that would wipe everything? is there a way of backing stuff up or are backups not as bigger deals as they are for a WM based OS.

The ADB build you refer to is essentially a rooted version of the ROM that came with the non-T-mobile branded developers phone.
Regards,
Dave

Impossible said:
adb is a way of telnet'ing from your pc to the phone, this gives you root access.
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Err no. adb (Android Debug Bridge) is a tool for debugging Android devices both physical and virtual (in an emulator instance). One of its features is to give you interactive shell access, but this has nothing to do with telnet.
Haykuro and JF's builds are based on the android development branch
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Also wrong. JF's builds are based on officially and unofficially released current branches, not development branches. Also, they are not ground-up rebuilds of the source code in as much as they are just modifications to existing releases to add root and other goodies.
Haykuro's builds appear to be coming from some private source close to HTC. These are not based completely on the open source development branches either.

thanks,
by ADB i meant (as in the JF threads) there are three diff versions rc33 rc9 and ADB1.1
Rc33 is the current US G1 tmobile rom, Rc9 is the current UK G1 tmobile rom and the ADB1.1 is the developers rom thats carrier free. Think of these are the different between a WM "clean" rom and a carrier rom (such as att)
also if having to reflash with new version, presumably that would wipe everything? is there a way of backing stuff up or are backups not as bigger deals as they are for a WM based OS.
As for destructive flashing... the G1 can do non wipe upgrade but IMO I prefere a clean (wipe before) install. As default the G1 roms store images/music/bookmarks and other customisations to the sd card and if your syncing your contacts with gmail, they will be restored after your rom update, so even with a wipe>install you dont loose much (you loose things like text's, mms's and installed apps)

thefunkygibbon said:
thanks,
by ADB i meant (as in the JF threads) there are three diff versions rc33 rc9 and ADB1.1
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What you're referring to is the ADP not ADB.
ADP = Android Dev Phone
ADB = Android Debug Bridge

very helpful guys, thanks. as for over the air updates is that just for OS based stuff or do apps too? (do apps even update themselves?
if you have installed apps to the SD card then wiping the device is even less of a problem i assume

If you install JF's RC33, (or RC9 if you are in Europe), you will have a phone pretty much exactly like the official ROM, except you will have root and multitouch.
If you install ADP 1.1, you will have a dev phone with multitouch and root, but you won't see protected apps.
If you install Haykuro's H build, you will have HTC's "cupcake" phone with lots of added goodies and root.
If you install Haykuro's or the Dudes G build, you will have the Google "cupcake" phone and root.
The "cupcake" builds are very usable and stable, but there are still a few bugs being worked out on them.
With any of the builds, you will also need to use the radio version for that build. (RC 33 and RC 9 are using the radio you probably already have).
The radio can be flashed either before or after, and it won't touch anything on your phone, but it will reboot twice, so don't panic if you do that and see your phone hanging for a few minutes on a different screen after the first reboot.
With all of these versions, you can also put your apps on your SD card with a little more work.
If flashing a different rom, first sync your contacts, then use something like power manager or astro to back up your apps to your SD card, that makes it easier to get everything back. You will definitely want to do a wipe to avoid problems.
It is possible to go back to official roms after updating, but you will lose root, and I don't think you will want to go back. Often times you will get the modified updates here before they are even released officially!

Wow thanks, thats pretty much cleared up my questions!
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With any of the builds, you will also need to use the radio version for that build. (RC 33 and RC 9 are using the radio you probably already have).
Do the files provided in the threads usually contain the radio's too are they seperate downloads/installs?
With all of these versions, you can also put your apps on your SD card with a little more work.
If flashing a different rom, first sync your contacts, then use something like power manager or astro to back up your apps to your SD card, that makes it easier to get everything back. You will definitely want to do a wipe to avoid problems.
Its something i'm used to with WM phones, but its always a complete ball ache resetting everything up and installing everything.
Is it at all possible to have some kind of OTA updates hosted system set up elsewhere (such as you or me) which could deploy the updates for these "hacked" roms, much in the same way as tmobile etc do?

Do the files provided in the threads usually contain the radio's too are they seperate downloads/installs?
It will say in the threads if you need to install the radio seperately. On most of the newer builds you will need to install it.
Is it at all possible to have some kind of OTA updates hosted system set up elsewhere (such as you or me) which could deploy the updates for these "hacked" roms, much in the same way as tmobile etc do?
The only roms which notify you of updates are the JF ones. There is an app on here that you can install which will let you know if there are updates. So far, it is all do it yourself as far as updating goes.
I don't know if it is possible without a lot of work to have the updates pushed automatically to your phone. At the moment, there are so many roms, some of which are updated more than once per day at times.
I have no idea what pushing them automatically to you phone involves, maybe someone else here does.

Dumping a Rom for backup

I'd like to know if theres a way to dump a rom with software and all minus SD card to a file for install at a later date, sense I normally will try new roms every now and then and would like to not have to reinstall all the tweaks, registry updates and programs again, which at this point would be about 30 different installs, plus having to reorganize everything, would be much more convenient to just be able to reinstall the backup rom that I made from an earlier date. Thanks in advance, oh and please keep the answers to 'how-to's' or general info about the subject instead of whether or not you think it is morally right to do so, etc.