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is there something like that to have a rom ready with all the programs and the rom?
Cause i keep coming back to old roms and it gets boring to install all programs again.
But i think a step by sted guide for rom idiots like me would be appreciated by many
not only the programs...
the rom with the radio too
thimiost said:
is there something like that to have a rom ready with all the programs and the rom?
Cause i keep coming back to old roms and it gets boring to install all programs again.
But i think a step by sted guide for rom idiots like me would be appreciated by many
not only the programs...
the rom with the radio too
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This is the only choice for enabled ROMs. Otherwise you cannot backup the apps and such between different ROMs. Too many things can vary. You can pretty much save your SMS/Mail/Contacts...but not apps.
if by "coming back to old roms", you mean that you tried out a new rom, didnt like it and ended up installing the previous rom you had, then you can just use sprite, do a backup, flash that new rom.......decide you dont like it, flash back the old rom, then restore it again with sprite
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if by "coming back to old roms", you mean that you tried out a new rom, didnt like it and ended up installing the previous rom you had, then you can just use sprite, do a backup, flash that new rom.......decide you dont like it, flash back the old rom, then restore it again with sprite
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What he said. For new ROMS that I try, and setup with my apps and settings, I make a backup and name the backup appropriately. For example, when i backed up Sleuth's v3.0 rom, I just called the backup 021508_Sleuth30. That way, when I go back to that ROM, it is easy to restore everything.
if you use spb back up... you can back up specific folders only... i usually back up... application data, appmgr, program files, my documents, favorites, documents and settings, start up, start menu and save just those folders, certain registry values will be missing, but if you reinstall the programs that are having issues it has been a pretty smooth transition for me... hope that helps
thank you for your time
But I Wanted To Make A NeW Rom With All My Programs In So That I Wouldn't Have To Do Those Things
Ok I Will Stick With Sprite
thimiost said:
But I Wanted To Make A NeW Rom With All My Programs In So That I Wouldn't Have To Do Those Things
Ok I Will Stick With Sprite
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Well if that's what you want...that's a whole different bucket o fish...you should probably go here and here. Those are all about cooking your own ROMs.
thx!!!
now i cross my fingers and start!!!
Is there any utility that i can use to create a re-load-able ROM, before i start experimenting with my own custom ROMs?
Of all the stuff i've read here, and else where, i have a pretty good idea of the how to, to create my own ROMs, as i did back then with the Palm OS devices.
the only thing i've not been able to find much of, is a good way to backup the current ROM, into a re-usable file that can be uploaded again.
my current ROM is 3.27 from factory.
All the stuff i've read was about dumping a RAW ROM, with the only purpose to pick and dissect the files and software from it, rather than having a good backup.
So, can anyone point me into the right direction to save a good copy of the ROMs i like?
Thanks
Am I right to assume that at present if we flash a new ROM on to our x7510's (after flashing hard SPL of course) then we loose the ability to go back to the factory ROM if we so wish?
I agree with AllGamer, we need to backup the original ROM from our devices before doing any flashing.
Plus, sometimes, the dumped ROMs will not include some very specific files, so I guess, somhow, each ROM - again Somehow - Device dependent.
So I wish to backup mine not use a dumped one.
Have anyone found anything useful, or good method to do this yet?
There are so much windows bundled crap, that i want to remove.... yet i can't unless i know i can revert back safely to factory state.
Hi, I am new to the world of smart phones and would like to learn more about them. I've been reading threads about people changing their ROMs and how it can affect future software updates.
I've done some searching w/ "what is a rom" and "stock rom" but the results are in techno-wiz-lingo that's right over my head.
I have two (pretty basic) questions regarding ROMs.
1. What is a rom?
and
2. If I use Titanium Backup (and install its corresponding busybox), does this change my ROM?
Sorry for the 4th-grader-noob questions. Thanks in advance!
Cheers,
John
We all were there sometime in past, so no problem.
1. A ROM is a part of a non-volatile non-"erasable" memory in phone that hold the operating system and main applications; you can compare it to a premade install of an operating system in a Desktop computer (for example: windows 7 and what manufacturer applications has installed), the difference is that you can't modifiy a ROM directly from inside the phone.
Now, smartphones comes also with premade install os the OS, that's called 'stock ROM', a ROM that come from the phone manufacturer; some people are able to extract ROMs from certain models and modify (kitchen) it, fixing bugs, adding new features, even upgrading main OS version, in short improving what came from the manufacturer that's called 'custom ROM' and that's what xda-developers is all about, in the several forums you will see sections where they talk about improving phone usability.
2. I have no much experience with Android but it seems that titanium backup can backup all your user data, so you can flash a custom ROM to your phone then restore you user data back to your phone, so you won't need to readd everything back at hand (usually when you flash a new ROM to your phone, everything is wiped out and the phone is left blank).
Hope that helps.
Thanks Drakh, that helps a lot! I did some more reading on wikipedia. Looks like I have a bit more to learn.
Thank you also Drakh. I have a lot to learn also.
OK...Let's get something out of the way before anyone start getting irate with me and saying things they shouldn't be about this thread does not belong here...
THIS IS NOT A ROM...does it have to do with Development? I believe so....
We have always been instructed by every ROM Devs that we have to WIPE Everything in order to get our ROMs stable and running as it should...well this post goes counter to what you've been told by almost any post on XDA-Dev
I am addicted to flashing ROMs to see which best suits my needs, however the pain of having to install my apps (I have more than 150...don't ask) usually kept me from trying as many as I would like to....started thinking about how DT APP2SD work...since it is a partition that is completely separated from where the ROM is flashed...WHY DO WE HAVE TO WIPE IT??? So, I started flashing different ROMs, from ICS, Gingerbread to even Froyo to test my theory. Low and behold...more than 95% of my apps held intact (albeit no DATA - you can use Titanium or MyBackup Root to restore the Apps Data) with no hiccups when running from one ROM to another. I have flashed from AOSP to SENSE to MIUI...same result, my apps remain intact as long as I wipe EVERYTHING EXCEPT the SD-EXT...DALVIK CACHE HAS TO WIPE...even though part of it is on the Extension!!!
The reason why is simple. Any DEVs that baked DT APP2SD into their ROMs essentially call for this partition at boot...and once the ROM call for this partition...all the apps that are located in there still remain and the ROM uses it as if it was part of the ROM.
Also, I have even tested it so extensively that I flashed a Sense, an AOSP and ICS independently - after making sure my ROM was stable, reboot to RECOVERY and plug my phone to my PC running Linux....automatically the SD EXT pops up and I dropped all my apps (again, more than 150) to it...and KABOOM!!! Upon reboot...all my apps started showing up.
Again, I have no intent to take space from the DEVs who are doing a GREAT job supporting our phones....
I am posting this in the hope of helping those who flash often and also the Devs themselves from having to reinstall all their apps everytime they flash a new ROM.
If the MODs feels like this does not belong here...please feel free to move it. I think that it could play an integral role in development to all the Devs out there, hence why I am posting it here.
PS: I am not here every day, I have two little ones and a beautiful wife that I try spend as much time with...so please be patient with me if you PM me for more details on how to do this.
If this helps you in any way, please hit the thanks button...
Again, thanks to all the great works the Devs are doing!!!!
I have done this before and it does work. The only thing that keeps me from doing this is the lack of the ability to do a batch data only restore with titanium. Am I missing something? How do u quickly restore the data to your apps?
do a batch, and at the top, select data only.
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do a batch, and at the top, select data only.
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Ooooohhhh......how did I not put 2 and 2 together. Thanks.
Would it not depend on the ROM your flashing?
i've been doing this for awhile, jus thought it was common knowledge. there have been some apps that FC, but i'm a FLASH chronic, and reinstall apps wud suck. ROOT UNINSTALLER is also a great app to do BU's.
I've done the same thing a couple times in the past (between CM and Sense) but always had nagging doubts that I was screwing something up somehow... Good to know that someone has taken the time to confirm that this is actually a reasonably safe process! I just had to do a nightmare manual one-by-one app restore on a ROM I flashed but I'm glad that now I can comfortably use this trick in the future.
Thanks man.
The reason for a full wipe is that most people don't have their sd card partitioned.I myself have partitioned mine and do exactly what you suggested and it does work,i figured this out after wiping the sd-exta few times,1 time i decided not to,i noticed my apps were still there after i installed another rom.Of course if you have a google account,google keeps your apps and contacts backed up.
Would this also apply for those that have partitioned sd and have a Sense 3.0~3.5 ROM installed? Question is because some devs, if not all, set the rom to save part of the rom on sd-ext partition.
I have been doing this all the time for sense and asop roms, works great. Off topic - wiping more than once is BS unless you have bad nand or using bad wiping program.
Happy to see that some of you find this information useful. I just didn't want to get screamed at for posting it here.
It's a little I can help with in contrast to the great work the devs are doing
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dragon_rckr said:
Would this also apply for those that have partitioned sd and have a Sense 3.0~3.5 ROM installed? Question is because some devs, if not all, set the rom to save part of the rom on sd-ext partition.
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It should have no impact because essentially your app folder is where everything is kept. If the Dev add some system info to the Ext it won't mess with your apps.
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I am looking to try different rims for my HOX. I was wanting to know if I could download the roms I want to try and install each one then make a nandroid back up. So when I wanna switch I don't have to install each rom then I could just use the backup.
I'm currently running CleanRom 4.5. I am no expert at this. I have only rooted one other phone besides this, it was the Inspire.
Some roms I was planning on looking at were:
Viper
CM10
Nocturnal
CleanRom 5.0
Sorry if the grammar is bad. Sending this from my phone.
Yes, you can do that. Keep in mind you should wipe data before flashing different ROMs. So you need to re-setup each time. But you can still do what you stated in the OP.
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I am looking to try different rims for my HOX. I was wanting to know if I could download the roms I want to try and install each one then make a nandroid back up. So when I wanna switch I don't have to install each rom then I could just use the backup.
I'm currently running CleanRom 4.5. I am no expert at this. I have only rooted one other phone besides this, it was the Inspire.
Some roms I was planning on looking at were:
Viper
CM10
Nocturnal
CleanRom 5.0
Sorry if the grammar is bad. Sending this from my phone.
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By all means go for it! I have a few tips for you, as one flasher to another
As redpoint said, each time you flash a new ROM you are starting from scratch. This only refers to your personal data and ROM settings, though. There are a few ways to guarantee that you won't be spending a long time configuring each ROM:
Cloud Storage is your friend! I personally use Dropbox to save anything important to my daily use since I can easily pull up documents stored there from anything connected to the internet. There are much more secure options to store files on the cloud, but you have to pay for the more secure options, and security is not of top importance to me (since I just store homework assignments and basic documents).
Use Google Backup! When you flash new android ROMs, there is a prompt that asks you if you would like to backup your phone to Google's servers. I usually hit yes to this prompt. After you have done this once, when you flash a new ROM and enter your Google account, any Play store apps you had installed will be redownloaded (including any personal data associated with the app, IF it's developer has enabled this feature). It's not a perfect way of restoring your apps, but it sure beats re-entering all of your data each time you want to try a new ROM.
Use services to store your contacts! I took a few days to enter ALL of my contacts into my Gmail account, and it was one of the best decisions I have ever made. Each time I restore my phone, I have all of my contacts available. People who complain about losing all of their contacts along with their phone need to learn about this point.
Remember that your SD card partition stays intact between ROMs! Just because you install a new OS doesn't mean you lose everything. Any music, movies, documents, or even app data that is stored on your SD card is unaffected by flashing something new. This is because your SD card is a completely separate partition of your phone's memory. The One XL may not have a real SD card slot, but you can still treat this partition as separate from the rest of your phone. Personal Tip: I store my backups and ROM zip files in a "Recovery" folder on my SD card partition. Having all of those files in one place simplifies flashing in TWRP.
Avoid using tools like Titanium Backup to restore apps! For a while I decided to use Titanium to restore apps. After a while I realized that all of the errors I was experiencing was the result of mismatched phone IDs, cache errors, and a bunch of other small glitches caused by Titanium backup. It is not the fault of TB and it is still a useful tool, but using Google backup to restore your apps is much cleaner and will result in fewer errors.
Save your text messages! Titanium Backup has the option of saving your text messages as a .xml file, but this is more complex than just using play store applications like SMS Backup & Restore. If you don't back up your SMS, you will look totally unpopular when you keep flashing your phone (and have no text messages at all)!
I hope this list helps you out in your flashing journey. Don't be afraid to try new things, and remember that if you can get into recovery mode, you will be fine (ESPECIALLY if you back up your data in the ways I described).
Thanks for tips
As far as saving everything as you posted. I don't have really that many documents I need and I am a big fan of dropbox haha. As far as my contacts any contacts I put in my phone automatically go to my google account so they always transfer over for me.
I usually delete most text messages at night and that's when I will flash these ROMS as I will not be texting anyone later in the night so, no worries there.
I really only have a few apps that I use, so even if they don't reinstall it doesn't take long to find em.
My main focus of now is just downloaded the roms I want and putting them all on my sd card. Whenever I have time to flash em all I will set them up kind of the way I want em with my apps, then set up the next ROM.
When that process is complete I'll just test each one for a few days/weeks till I find the perfect one for me haha.
I was planning on doing full wipe/reset between each one so I am glad yall confirmed that for me haha. Anything else I should keep an eye out for?
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Yes, you can do that. Keep in mind you should wipe data before flashing different ROMs. So you need to re-setup each time. But you can still do what you stated in the OP.
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I don't have to do reset between nandroid backups do I?
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I was planning on doing full wipe/reset between each one so I am glad yall confirmed that for me haha. Anything else I should keep an eye out for?
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Just two things - Most ROMs (especially AOSP) are constantly updating to newer versions, and if you are trying to make ONE snapshot of a ROM and flash back to it whenever you want, be sure that it is a stable version. CM10 and AOKP builds all have bugs, features tend to break each nightly/weekly build, and then get fixed later. Be sure you grab one of the stable builds or at least one that has all of the features you need (NOT necessarily the latest one), otherwise you will be relying on a (potentially) unstable ROM as your backup.
The other thing is, if you were potentially going to flash radio or kernel files, be sure to choose the correct one and flash it each time you install a new ROM or update. Each time you flash a ROM zip, the data for the kernel and radio are overwritten. Especially with radio files, you can break your phone or just cause general errors if you flash the wrong thing (example: flashing a radio+RIL zip on an AOSP ROM can cause serious errors, but the same file is actually preferred on Sense based ROMs). You don't have to worry about these files at all, but if you do end up flashing them, be careful!
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I don't have to do reset between nandroid backups do I?
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Going between nandroids? No, recovery is going to overwrite the user data with the user data from the nandroid, so I don't think you need to worry about it.
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Remember that your SD card partition stays intact between ROMs![/B] Just because you install a new OS doesn't mean you lose everything. Any music, movies, documents, or even app data that is stored on your SD card is unaffected by flashing something new. This is because your SD card is a completely separate partition of your phone's memory. The One XL may not have a real SD card slot, but you can still treat this partition as separate from the rest of your phone. Personal Tip: I store my backups and ROM zip files in a "Recovery" folder on my SD card partition. Having all of those files in one place simplifies flashing in TWRP.
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In theory, that is supposed to be true. But many people (including myself) have had instances of some or all of the SD contents erased or corrupted. The exact cause has still not been found, but possibly just a bug of the phone. I've had it happen several times now. If you have anything irreplaceable on the SD, I would suggest backing it up to your computer, Dropbox, or whatever, before flashing anything. This includes photos of videos that you took, and anything else not easily replaced. Backing up one known good nandroid is not a bad idea, either, just in case.
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Just two things - Most ROMs (especially AOSP) are constantly updating to newer versions, and if you are trying to make ONE snapshot of a ROM and flash back to it whenever you want, be sure that it is a stable version. CM10 and AOKP builds all have bugs, features tend to break each nightly/weekly build, and then get fixed later. Be sure you grab one of the stable builds or at least one that has all of the features you need (NOT necessarily the latest one), otherwise you will be relying on a (potentially) unstable ROM as your backup.
The other thing is, if you were potentially going to flash radio or kernel files, be sure to choose the correct one and flash it each time you install a new ROM or update. Each time you flash a ROM zip, the data for the kernel and radio are overwritten. Especially with radio files, you can break your phone or just cause general errors if you flash the wrong thing (example: flashing a radio+RIL zip on an AOSP ROM can cause serious errors, but the same file is actually preferred on Sense based ROMs). You don't have to worry about these files at all, but if you do end up flashing them, be careful!
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I don't plan on flashing any radios. As I did with the inspire, and it messed up my service bad and I didn't know how to fix it again. I didn't now too much about it then. Which I still don't but I know more now than I did then.
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Anything else I should keep an eye out for?
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Be sure you are using TWRP, and not Clockworkmod. CWM has known problems, as our device is not really supported (its just a port) and also USB mount is not working (which may be relevant if you run into problems such as the SD corruption I've mentioned).
I will be using TWRP. If I'm not mistaken I did a nandroid back up of stock rooted. I plan on copying my sd card to my computer external hd just for safety. I have a HTC One X Folder that I will put my roms in stuff in as well.
I will try to take screenshots of battery life for each day I use a certain rom. The battery probably won't go below 30% but screenshots would give a good idea to other people. And I will try to update my thoughts on each rom. Not promising I will get to but I will try.
I am going to download and check md5s today.
Idk if I will flash one tonight or not.
Also I may try to have a nandroid back up of the same rom if it has Sense and a non-Sense version. I have never tried a non Sense rom so I am really trying to figure out what I like best.
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Also I may try to have a nandroid back up of the same rom if it has Sense and a non-Sense version. I have never tried a non Sense rom so I am really trying to figure out what I like best.
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I hope you like blue If not, take a look at this thread for some CM10 themes.
Any ROM based on Sense will still have remnants of HTC's UI somewhere. When there are deSensed versions (such as CleanROM V), usually the dev is trying to get closer to the stock Android look. I personally either go all the way and flash an AOSP ROM, or stay with stock Sense, because anywhere inbetween usually lacks polish and continuity. I'm exceptionally picky though
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I hope you like blue If not, take a look at this thread for some CM10 themes.
Any ROM based on Sense will still have remnants of HTC's UI somewhere. When there are deSensed versions (such as CleanROM V), usually the dev is trying to get closer to the stock Android look. I personally either go all the way and flash an AOSP ROM, or stay with stock Sense, because anywhere inbetween usually lacks polish and continuity. I'm exceptionally picky though
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Blue is actually my favorite color lol. Could you point me to the CM10 rom?
Here are the roms I am downloading as of now:
KingCobra
Nocturnal Special Edition
Viper
Clean Rom 5.0
Any other ideas on maybe one or two more roms?
I bookmarked that link you posted. I prob won't do much with themes until I find the right ROM. Even then the most I usually do is wallpapers lol. But will look more into after finding a ROM.
What rom would you suggest on CM or AOKP? What build? I don't know much about those. Never really looked in the original development forum lol.
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What rom would you suggest on CM or AOKP? What build? I don't know much about those. Never really looked in the original development forum lol.
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I just flashed the latest build (cm-10-20121001-EXPERIMENTAL-evita.zip) a few hours ago and it has been just fine with me, very smooth with no crashes so far. You can download the nightly builds here, but like I said earlier not all of them are stable. CM10 is developed for multiple devices with different hardware. Our One XL is code named "evita", so before you flash ANYTHING be sure that it has "evita" in the file name. Be sure to look at the development thread, or at least the OP, if you want to get more information.
As for AOKP, it seems like build 4 (the latest) may be having some issues. I don't use that ROM so check out the dev thread if you need help.
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I just flashed the latest build (cm-10-20121001-EXPERIMENTAL-evita.zip) a few hours ago and it has been just fine with me, very smooth with no crashes so far. You can download the nightly builds here, but like I said earlier not all of them are stable. CM10 is developed for multiple devices with different hardware. Our One XL is code named "evita", so before you flash ANYTHING be sure that it has "evita" in the file name. Be sure to look at the development thread, or at least the OP, if you want to get more information.
As for AOKP, it seems like build 4 (the latest) may be having some issues. I don't use that ROM so check out the dev thread if you need help.
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What's the different in the Nightly and Experimental? I would like to try a CM since I never have before. Probably will be the last one I download
Also on the CM10 forum it says something about find Gapps? Is that something I search for and download and flash?
Update
Downloaded Roms with md5 checked and now on my sim card:
Clean Rom 5.0
CM10
King Cobra
Nocturnal Special Edition
Viper
Just need help on what I need to download for Gapps to install CM10
What Rom should I test first?
King Cobra
Viper
Nocturnal
I'm on nocturnal and loving it.
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