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.Net framework on wm6

i havnt been able to install .Net framework on wm6, has anyone had any luck with this?

Dude, WM6 comes with Net CF2, which is the latest one

karhoe said:
Dude, WM6 comes with Net CF2, which is the latest one
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it does? I'm not able to get the program "sniper" to work cuz i need .Net framework i think. has anyone else been able to get sniper to work?

mikeeey said:
it does? I'm not able to get the program "sniper" to work cuz i need .Net framework i think. has anyone else been able to get sniper to work?
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Does it say that it needs .net framework when you start it?

mikeeey said:
it does? I'm not able to get the program "sniper" to work cuz i need .Net framework i think. has anyone else been able to get sniper to work?
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That is the problem with your application, anyway, is sniper the apps used to send BT message?

karhoe said:
That is the problem with your application, anyway, is sniper the apps used to send BT message?
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1. It is (in addition to, say, Bluezard - see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1226139 ); see my related review at, say, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=277726
2. Dunno if your WM6 contains .NET CF 1. If it doesn't, you'll want to install CF1SP3 available at http://www.winmobiletech.com/sekalaiset/CF1SP3/netcf.all.wce4.ARMV4.rar
3. Moving the thread to General because it is generic enough to have value to generic (not just Tornado) users.

Menneisyys said:
1. It is (in addition to, say, Bluezard - see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1226139 ); see my related review at, say, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=277726
2. Dunno if your WM6 contains .NET CF 1. If it doesn't, you'll want to install CF1SP3 available at http://www.winmobiletech.com/sekalaiset/CF1SP3/netcf.all.wce4.ARMV4.rar
3. Moving the thread to General because it is generic enough to have value to generic (not just Tornado) users.
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thanks menneisyss. that was a really big help. i will try all of these different options youve given me including bluezard. i actually had tried and looked if you had writen an article on Sniper but no luck, thanks for linking this.
EDIT: i just tried to install CF1SP3 but it told me it wasnt intended for my device. and because i couldnt get CF1SP3 to install, i still can't get Sniper to work.

[email protected] said:
Does it say that it needs .net framework when you start it?
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no but i had recently installed an earlier version and after the setup it told me i needed it. so yes it told me once, but not every time i start up.

mikeeey said:
no but i had recently installed an earlier version and after the setup it told me i needed it. so yes it told me once, but not every time i start up.
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Well I remember that when I have started app that needed .net framework on wm5 it said something like that the app cannot start because I don't have .net framework installed.

This is still an ongoing problem for me... Many apps crash saying that it could not find .Net CF 2.0, yet I know that WM6 already comes with it and when I try to install it, it tells me that it already has a newer one installed.

Is removing or upgrading a program included in a ROM possible?

Hi,
I have a tmobile wing flashed with touch-it 2.3. The JAVA midlet manager is part of the ROM, it is an old version and I would to install a newer version. My question is, if I install a newer version will the installation be similar as an upgrade on a desktop computer or will I have 2 different versions (I am not sure it this would cause some interaction problems that is why I have tried this yet)
Or Is there any way to remove a application included in a ROM?
Thanks!

not sure about the upgrade part .. i assume the program will auto know that a newer version is being installed and will remov old ver.
as far as removing from rom, by my knowledge, the only way to do that is by extracting the rom usind the kitchen for that rom and recompiling it with stuff u want .. for this however u need to hav chef permission and kitchen

I am new with the whole cooking/flashing world, so I am not sure about the cooking thing. I will have to read about this. I guess I will have to try the upgrade thing.

Well, I tried and instead of upgrading the existing the older version of the application I have 2. This is a bit annoying since I have to install it on my already very limited internal memory. Is there ANY way to go around this, either by actually writing over the older version or removing it?
Help please!

Is it possible to do this.......

When you download a ROM and it has MOST of everything you want/need, is it possible to update the programs which may not be the latest? For instance, in the http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=469522 ROM, SU2U and other apps aren't the current versions. None of the progams show in the uninstall list, because they were burned in the ROM. Can I manually update these programs? I am mostly looking to gain some storage by re-installing the updated programs to my mem card.
Thanks in advance, and MUCH thanks to all the talented people who make all this magic happen...
Peace...

flyingmedic said:
When you download a ROM and it has MOST of everything you want/need, is it possible to update the programs which may not be the latest? For instance, in the http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=469522 ROM, SU2U and other apps aren't the current versions. None of the progams show in the uninstall list, because they were burned in the ROM. Can I manually update these programs? I am mostly looking to gain some storage by re-installing the updated programs to my mem card.
Thanks in advance, and MUCH thanks to all the talented people who make all this magic happen...
Peace...
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No, not unless you recook the ROM. Most ROMs are unrecookable unless the cook releases his kitchen files.

Basic questions regarding Android ROMS.

sorry if these have been asked many times before, i've searched but cannot find much about it.
new to Android, coming from a WM for the past 8 years background its all foreign to me.
1) what is "adb" and how does it differ from "RC"'s? I presume RC's are just different build numbers for Android.
2) whats the difference between Haykuro, JF's builds? are any of them cupcake? how can i think about them in terms of Windows Mobile roms?
3) if I install one of the above, will the over the air updates still work? if there is an update to the OS (ie cupcake if the rom isnt) can this be applied at all or will i need to "lose everything" and wipe/flash to the new one?
again sorry for the n00byness.

1) what is "adb" and how does it differ from "RC"'s? I presume RC's are just different build numbers for Android.
adb is a way of telnet'ing from your pc to the phone, this gives you root access.
2) whats the difference between Haykuro, JF's builds? are any of them cupcake? how can i think about them in terms of Windows Mobile roms?
Haykuro and JF's builds are based on the android development branch, they are basicly updates that are based on googles on going improvements to the phones OS. Hayjuro's is based on a port from the upcomming saphire phone. Treat them as different "flavours" like schnaps etc
3) if I install one of the above, will the over the air updates still work? if there is an update to the OS (ie cupcake if the rom isnt) can this be applied at all or will i need to "lose everything" and wipe/flash to the new one?
Current custom roms change the signing keys so OTA updates are not updated onto the phone. You would have to manualy change the rom yourself.
Hope this helps
Imp

thanks,
by ADB i meant (as in the JF threads) there are three diff versions rc33 rc9 and ADB1.1
also if having to reflash with new version, presumably that would wipe everything? is there a way of backing stuff up or are backups not as bigger deals as they are for a WM based OS.

The ADB build you refer to is essentially a rooted version of the ROM that came with the non-T-mobile branded developers phone.
Regards,
Dave

Impossible said:
adb is a way of telnet'ing from your pc to the phone, this gives you root access.
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Err no. adb (Android Debug Bridge) is a tool for debugging Android devices both physical and virtual (in an emulator instance). One of its features is to give you interactive shell access, but this has nothing to do with telnet.
Haykuro and JF's builds are based on the android development branch
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Also wrong. JF's builds are based on officially and unofficially released current branches, not development branches. Also, they are not ground-up rebuilds of the source code in as much as they are just modifications to existing releases to add root and other goodies.
Haykuro's builds appear to be coming from some private source close to HTC. These are not based completely on the open source development branches either.

thanks,
by ADB i meant (as in the JF threads) there are three diff versions rc33 rc9 and ADB1.1
Rc33 is the current US G1 tmobile rom, Rc9 is the current UK G1 tmobile rom and the ADB1.1 is the developers rom thats carrier free. Think of these are the different between a WM "clean" rom and a carrier rom (such as att)
also if having to reflash with new version, presumably that would wipe everything? is there a way of backing stuff up or are backups not as bigger deals as they are for a WM based OS.
As for destructive flashing... the G1 can do non wipe upgrade but IMO I prefere a clean (wipe before) install. As default the G1 roms store images/music/bookmarks and other customisations to the sd card and if your syncing your contacts with gmail, they will be restored after your rom update, so even with a wipe>install you dont loose much (you loose things like text's, mms's and installed apps)

thefunkygibbon said:
thanks,
by ADB i meant (as in the JF threads) there are three diff versions rc33 rc9 and ADB1.1
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What you're referring to is the ADP not ADB.
ADP = Android Dev Phone
ADB = Android Debug Bridge

very helpful guys, thanks. as for over the air updates is that just for OS based stuff or do apps too? (do apps even update themselves?
if you have installed apps to the SD card then wiping the device is even less of a problem i assume

If you install JF's RC33, (or RC9 if you are in Europe), you will have a phone pretty much exactly like the official ROM, except you will have root and multitouch.
If you install ADP 1.1, you will have a dev phone with multitouch and root, but you won't see protected apps.
If you install Haykuro's H build, you will have HTC's "cupcake" phone with lots of added goodies and root.
If you install Haykuro's or the Dudes G build, you will have the Google "cupcake" phone and root.
The "cupcake" builds are very usable and stable, but there are still a few bugs being worked out on them.
With any of the builds, you will also need to use the radio version for that build. (RC 33 and RC 9 are using the radio you probably already have).
The radio can be flashed either before or after, and it won't touch anything on your phone, but it will reboot twice, so don't panic if you do that and see your phone hanging for a few minutes on a different screen after the first reboot.
With all of these versions, you can also put your apps on your SD card with a little more work.
If flashing a different rom, first sync your contacts, then use something like power manager or astro to back up your apps to your SD card, that makes it easier to get everything back. You will definitely want to do a wipe to avoid problems.
It is possible to go back to official roms after updating, but you will lose root, and I don't think you will want to go back. Often times you will get the modified updates here before they are even released officially!

Wow thanks, thats pretty much cleared up my questions!
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With any of the builds, you will also need to use the radio version for that build. (RC 33 and RC 9 are using the radio you probably already have).
Do the files provided in the threads usually contain the radio's too are they seperate downloads/installs?
With all of these versions, you can also put your apps on your SD card with a little more work.
If flashing a different rom, first sync your contacts, then use something like power manager or astro to back up your apps to your SD card, that makes it easier to get everything back. You will definitely want to do a wipe to avoid problems.
Its something i'm used to with WM phones, but its always a complete ball ache resetting everything up and installing everything.
Is it at all possible to have some kind of OTA updates hosted system set up elsewhere (such as you or me) which could deploy the updates for these "hacked" roms, much in the same way as tmobile etc do?

Do the files provided in the threads usually contain the radio's too are they seperate downloads/installs?
It will say in the threads if you need to install the radio seperately. On most of the newer builds you will need to install it.
Is it at all possible to have some kind of OTA updates hosted system set up elsewhere (such as you or me) which could deploy the updates for these "hacked" roms, much in the same way as tmobile etc do?
The only roms which notify you of updates are the JF ones. There is an app on here that you can install which will let you know if there are updates. So far, it is all do it yourself as far as updating goes.
I don't know if it is possible without a lot of work to have the updates pushed automatically to your phone. At the moment, there are so many roms, some of which are updated more than once per day at times.
I have no idea what pushing them automatically to you phone involves, maybe someone else here does.

[Q] Problem SDcard and Apps [XDAndroid FRX06]

Hello,
I have a HTC Touch Diamond 100 and I installed the "Froyo FRX06 XDandroid NEW system update" review in the post "[prj] [XDANDROID] [AOSP] [FroYo | GINGERBREAD] [31.03] System Update" and everything works fine except that it doesn't recognize SDcard applications.
There's no Error Message in the screen, is just that the system doesn't recognice anything in the SDcard. I put my apps in the folder: AndroidApps-> Other. I think it's not the common fault that I have read many people have "Waiting for SDCard error. For people who have problems with sdcard message, add this to your startupmsmsdcc_1bit msmsdcc_fmax=14000000 msmsdcc_nopwrsave" because for instance the phone let me save the pictures i've take with the camera phone or install and recognice any app from the market.
I 've Format the card with the HP tools after initial installation and then i had restore all the files in the internal storage.
P.S. Sorry for my possible spelling mistakes but English is not my native language

Keep in mind if you put the apk in anything other than the AndroidApps folder you will need to install them yourself. See THIS FAQ for further explanation. As far as the wating on sd card message you get when you are booting into Android, I get those all the time and have no problems with taking pictures. I would suggest that you use the full bundle from THIS post to ensure you have the latest. Unless you know what you are doing

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Keep in mind if you put the apk in anything other than the AndroidApps folder you will need to install them yourself. See THIS FAQ for further explanation. As far as the wating on sd card message you get when you are booting into Android, I get those all the time and have no problems with taking pictures. I would suggest that you use the full bundle from THIS post to ensure you have the latest. Unless you know what you are doing
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Oh what A noob mistake xD I didn't know that apps in the "Other" folder doesn't follow the "typical rules" for instaling apps (i've come from previous releases of Android, Eclair specifically, and in that version it was only place in this folder to install apps).
I'm using froyo instead of gingerbread builts because HTC touch Diamond it's quite old and i don't know if the performance would be better or slower than froyo performace but if you recomend me to use that gingerbread bundle i would use it.
Thanks R^7Z.

Honestly, Gingerbread is "better" but it is alpha release at the moment. Yes, this means that there are quite a few more "improvements" to under-go! I only recommend it if you like the idea of Android. The latest releases for FroYo aren't bad but it seems there are a few hard instability hits it has taken since FRX03 (last time I really enjoyed running a FroYo build from the XDAndroid project). Since then, I've been playing around with a few things and builds to include but not limited to this new idea of CWM (clockwork mod/Gingercherry tutorial) which is posted in the neopeek forums. So, unless you've got an idea as to how neopeek variants work, it's suggested to stick with the XDAndroid builds...

R^7Z said:
Honestly, Gingerbread is "better" but it is alpha release at the moment. Yes, this means that there are quite a few more "improvements" to under-go! I only recommend it if you like the idea of Android. The latest releases for FroYo aren't bad but it seems there are a few hard instability hits it has taken since FRX03 (last time I really enjoyed running a FroYo build from the XDAndroid project). Since then, I've been playing around with a few things and builds to include but not limited to this new idea of CWM (clockwork mod/Gingercherry tutorial) which is posted in the neopeek forums. So, unless you've got an idea as to how neopeek variants work, it's suggested to stick with the XDAndroid builds...
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I see what you say but honestly, right now, I'm looking for stability and performace, if you know that gingerbread build GBX0A have better performance (i supose that it's less stable because it's an alpha) than FRX06 i'll choose Ginger
Thanks again R^7Z.