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http://twitter.com/samsungukmobile/status/19827474965
We've seen a lot of Q's about the Froyo update; it's currently in development & will be released for all networks at the end of September...
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Which i'm guessing Mid-October for ATT i'm betting
jhego said:
http://twitter.com/samsungukmobile/status/19827474965
Which i'm guessing Mid-October of next year for ATT i'm betting
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There, I fixed it for you.
jhego said:
http://twitter.com/samsungukmobile/status/19827474965
Which i'm guessing Mid-October for ATT i'm betting
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My money's on mid December for ATT if it is released in September
But in all seriousness, just look at this as a prime example.
AT&T Tilt was released on October 4, 2007. The 6.1 update wasn't rolled out until August 4, 2008, almost a year after the phone was release. WM 6.1 was available to Carriers in April of 08, which is still half a year, so I do not expect a 2.2 update until sometime next year.
Damn ATT, here's hoping to a custom ROM right after September update.
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Damn ATT, here's hoping to a custom ROM right after September update.
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Oh, you know it. And we will all flash it.
Hopefully ATT wont lag on it, cuz Sprint just announced that there Evo will have 2.2 August 3rd.
I'm sure AT&T has their top android developers working on this..... Its too bad that their best ANDROID developers consist of three guys in a basement somewhere...
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All we need is a custom kernel for the Samsung Captivate and we can a bug free version of froyo on our devices right now.
To me, people need to stop asking about froyo. It's coming, it's announced and confirmed, that's great.
The question people need to be asking Samsung, so we can get them on the record committed to it now, is will you release a Gingerbread update for the phone as long as the hardware is capable of supporting it. The OS is only 2-3 months from being unveiled if Google sticks to their time table, and if the rumors are true it'll be a much bigger overhaul than 2.1-2.2 is.
So yeah, unless we want our phones to be outdated before the end of the year, we need to start making a push as a community to get a commitment from Samsung to support not just the OS that was released 4 months ago, but also the much bigger one that's right around the corner.
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To me, people need to stop asking about froyo. It's coming, it's announced and confirmed, that's great.
The question people need to be asking Samsung, so we can get them on the record committed to it now, is will you release a Gingerbread update for the phone as long as the hardware is capable of supporting it. The OS is only 2-3 months from being unveiled if Google sticks to their time table, and if the rumors are true it'll be a much bigger overhaul than 2.1-2.2 is.
So yeah, unless we want our phones to be outdated before the end of the year, we need to start making a push as a community to get a commitment from Samsung to support not just the OS that was released 4 months ago, but also the much bigger one that's right around the corner.
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You're right. Samsung has not even said what their plans for gingerbread are. I hope that they would upgrade to that too. Google said in april that gingerbread should be ready in november.
jhego said:
Damn ATT, here's hoping to a custom ROM right after September update.
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shouldnt be an issue since Samsung released the source...
iamamp3pimp said:
shouldnt be an issue since Samsung released the source...
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Does having the source make it as likely we can have a custom Gingerbread ROM as a Froyo ROM?
I know patience is a virtue but man, i've been checking out the Evo 4G forum and there is so much activity and excitement about the successful leaked Froyo update. When is it our turn? I'm so jealous!!! Lol.
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All we need is a custom kernel for the Samsung Captivate and we can a bug free version of froyo on our devices right now.
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How do we make this happen? And god damnit i want a stage 2 speed fix for the captivate!
:'(
I mean just look at this, LOOK AT IT!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7201021&postcount=122
with the kernal patch this guy is getting double the quadrant score and is topping off way higher than a nexus 1 on froyo.
And to think the kernal patch is only necessary because samsung fked up in the firmware!? jUST WTF fix it!
damnit samsung.
good rant, ty.
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Does having the source make it as likely we can have a custom Gingerbread ROM as a Froyo ROM?
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i dont see why not.
I would think they would be stepping up the date as a lot of the other android phones are getting their froyo in August.
source is from engadget
DALLAS, July 25, 2011 /PRNewswire/ --
Key Facts
AT&T* confirmed that upgrades to the Android™ 2.3 (Gingerbread) platform are planned for all post-paid Android smartphones already introduced this year.
Motorola ATRIX™ 4G users will receive an update to Android 2.3 beginning today and HTC Inspire™ 4G users will receive the update in the coming weeks.
Motorola ATRIX 4G update will also provide the ability to download applications from third-party stores.
HTC Status™ arrived in stores July 17, the first AT&T smartphone running Android 2.3.
Upgrade Details
Customers who purchased an Android smartphone from AT&T introduced in 2011 can expect to receive an update to Android 2.3. All of these devices are planned to be upgraded from Android 2.2 to Android 2.3, also referred to as Gingerbread. In addition, Samsung Captivate™ owners will be able to upgrade to Gingerbread.
Delivery methods will vary by device. Whenever possible, upgrades are delivered over-the-air (OTA), however in some cases the size of the file needed to install the update will require the user to connect via Wi-Fi or connect the phone to a PC to install the update. Factors such as manufacturer-defined software and other device performance improvements result in each device requiring a separate update which will vary in timing.
Beginning today and continuing over the next few weeks, Motorola ATRIX 4G users will be prompted to install the update. To download the update, users must be connected via Wi-Fi. In August, HTC Inspire 4G users will be notified that the update is available and can be downloaded when connected to a Wi-Fi network. AT&T smartphone users can access at any one of the company's more than 26,000 Wi-Fi hotspots at no cost.
The AT&T smartphones planned for a Gingerbread update are:
HTC Inspire™ 4G
LG Phoenix™
Motorola ATRIX™ 4G
Pantech Crossover™
Samsung Captivate™ 4G
Samsung Infuse™ 4G
Android 2.3 (Gingerbread)
Gingerbread delivers a number of improvements, such as user interface refinements, refined copy/paste functionality and speed enhancements. The upgrade offers improved power management that offers a more active role in managing applications in addition to an improved on-screen keyboard with multi-touch support that makes typing faster and more accurate
Yay. It's about time.
Whadya bet it's horrid like the latest OTA for the Craptivate? Even worse would be if it's unrootable.
Captivate 4G?
As a former user, it's nice to see it still being supported .
I guess it's cool for people who are afraid to root, but I would never even consider using that ota update. I'm sure most feel the same way since most popular roms have been on gingerbread for quite some time.
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I am curious what version of sense it will have. If it has a version of 3.x I would try it.
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I am curious what version of sense it will have. If it has a version of 3.x I would try it.
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It would be nice if it had Sense 3.0 but I don't really have very much faith in AT&T. My guess is it will still use Sense 2.1(?) like it does now.
It will have Sense 2.1. Sense 3.0 was not designed to be put on phones such as the Inspire. 3.0 is only being released on the newer models coming out such as the Sensation.
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Whadya bet it's horrid like the latest OTA for the Craptivate? Even worse would be if it's unrootable.
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It looks like the latest GBs are rootable now with a tool called Fre3vo (originally made for the Evo). Hopefully HTC won't hold off on their release by trying to patch against this exploit.
Another pointless update from ATT that will most likely brick devices due to OTA being unstable at best. When they release the source for it then I will be happy but until then. Ill stick with custom roms as I know they work and we all know how well ATT roms work
zelendel said:
Another pointless update from ATT that will most likely brick devices due to OTA being unstable at best. When they release the source for it then I will be happy but until then. Ill stick with custom roms as I know they work and we all know how well ATT roms work
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i'm actually looking forward to the release. not so i can install the ota update, but so that the devs can harvest it for goodies (if any). In my experience, the ATT stock roms have almost always been the most stable, and roms built up from these with just a few tweaks to teh rom (ie inspired ace/saga) are golden for what i'm looking for. we'll see what happens i guess
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i'm actually looking forward to the release. not so i can install the ota update, but so that the devs can harvest it for goodies (if any). In my experience, the ATT stock roms have almost always been the most stable, and roms built up from these with just a few tweaks to teh rom (ie inspired ace/saga) are golden for what i'm looking for. we'll see what happens i guess
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+1
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nhshah7 said:
i'm actually looking forward to the release. not so i can install the ota update, but so that the devs can harvest it for goodies (if any). In my experience, the ATT stock roms have almost always been the most stable, and roms built up from these with just a few tweaks to teh rom (ie inspired ace/saga) are golden for what i'm looking for. we'll see what happens i guess
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+2. Once the devs get a hold of it, they can tweak and add Sense 3.0, which will give us more stable roms than the current Euro DHD roms.
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nhshah7 said:
i'm actually looking forward to the release. not so i can install the ota update, but so that the devs can harvest it for goodies (if any). In my experience, the ATT stock roms have almost always been the most stable, and roms built up from these with just a few tweaks to teh rom (ie inspired ace/saga) are golden for what i'm looking for. we'll see what happens i guess
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Yes yes and YES! Right now Im running the TPC rom. No ATT bloat, OCed, a few more tweeks, etc. and its so damn stable I dont think I'll ever flash to another ROM. Im hoping for the same thing you are...a stock, but cooked, GB rom. Absolutely cant wait for this!
Yes I'm glad because its official and the Devs might find some use for it. But I have been using the famous cyanogenmod so the update isn't a big thing for me. Glad to see att hasn't forgotten us though!
I'm most excited for any radio and ril updates it might include since it will be a true AT&T certified GB based radio/ril combo.
I look forward to what the devs do with with it and hopefully some new drivers. Like touch screen, and wut not. I assume it will be nicer for a dev to use the framework from an official release that's for the inspire then the ones they have been using?
Hopefully we'll get new radio/ril designed for gingerbread. Wish I could use the latest ATT ota radio with ARHD! Looking forward to it.
My best estimate is that it'll pretty much be the same as the GB WWE and Telus ROMs we've already seen with some ATT bloat added in that'll be the first thing to get removed. It'll be easier to use as a base for Inspire custom ROMs though as there won't need to be audio fixes and gps stuff and whatnot.
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It will have Sense 2.1. Sense 3.0 was not designed to be put on phones such as the Inspire. 3.0 is only being released on the newer models coming out such as the Sensation.
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That's the propaganda from HTC, but thanks to Capychimp it has been proven to run fine on the inspire.
So it would still be great if they shipped it with 3.0.
http://9to5google.com/2011/10/06/confirmed-ice-cream-sandwich-launching-october-12th/
So says 9to5Google via a Youtube leak.
I wonder if this means it'll start pushing out to NS owners during that date...
i hope :crossesfingers:
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http://9to5google.com/2011/10/06/confirmed-ice-cream-sandwich-launching-october-12th/
So says 9to5Google via a Youtube leak.
I wonder if this means it'll start pushing out to NS owners during that date...
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Highly unlikely.
There isn't a lot of history here, but for what it's worth: The Nexus S was announced on Dec 6th running Gingerbread. The SDK was available on Dec 6th. The Nexus S became available in the US on Dec 16th. Gingerbread started being pushed into AOSP on Dec 17th. The Nexus One didn't get the OTA to Gingerbread until Feb. Apparently the OTA was rather buggy from the few threads I read (I had sold my N1 in Dec). Maybe this was the cause of the delay.
Froyo was announced May 20th, the SDK was available on May 20th. Froyo OTA'd to the Nexus One on June 23rd (that felt like a LOOONG wait) and subsequently pushed into AOSP.
We'll see what the timetables are this time around, but I wouldn't expect it for several weeks at the earliest. After the "official" unveiling of ICS if it's anything like past announcements you'll see the SDK/NDK first, followed by the push into AOSP in a few weeks, then some time after that you'll start to see OTA's to older.
Google may change it up this time and OTA to the Nexus S sooner, but I wouldn't get my hopes up.
we wont get icecream till after prime release
My guess would be a month or two after
I hope Google surprises us all with OTAs to many devices concurrently. But that is even more unlikely than us getting in a few weeks.
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im pretty sure google wants the prime owners to enjoy ics first. its a selling point right now.
on a side note, (i don't remember the history) were there any custom roms running froyo or gb before the official OTA was sent out?
If only they'd release ICS for Nexus S just to sorta promote it lol
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Highly unlikely.
There isn't a lot of history here, but for what it's worth: The Nexus S was announced on Dec 6th running Gingerbread. The SDK was available on Dec 6th. The Nexus S became available in the US on Dec 16th. Gingerbread started being pushed into AOSP on Dec 17th. The Nexus One didn't get the OTA to Gingerbread until Feb. Apparently the OTA was rather buggy from the few threads I read (I had sold my N1 in Dec). Maybe this was the cause of the delay.
Froyo was announced May 20th, the SDK was available on May 20th. Froyo OTA'd to the Nexus One on June 23rd (that felt like a LOOONG wait) and subsequently pushed into AOSP.
We'll see what the timetables are this time around, but I wouldn't expect it for several weeks at the earliest. After the "official" unveiling of ICS if it's anything like past announcements you'll see the SDK/NDK first, followed by the push into AOSP in a few weeks, then some time after that you'll start to see OTA's to older.
Google may change it up this time and OTA to the Nexus S sooner, but I wouldn't get my hopes up.
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THIS!
SDK *might* come out on the 12th, but not ICS itself.
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If only they'd release ICS for Nexus S just to sorta promote it lol
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Why would they give it to another device when the Prime is supposed to be the flagship ICS device?
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p00kienrayray said:
im pretty sure google wants the prime owners to enjoy ics first. its a selling point right now.
on a side note, (i don't remember the history) were there any custom roms running froyo or gb before the official OTA was sent out?
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definitely not GB. not sure about froyo since I had a G1 still before getting my Nexus S
Well the Nexus Prime just got postponed along with ICS
http://m.engadget.com/default/artic...y-nexus/&category=classic&icid=eng_latest_art
Here is a direct walk through link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvsXyeY0HVE&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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charlieb620 said:
Well the Nexus Prime just got postponed along with ICS
http://m.engadget.com/default/artic...y-nexus/&category=classic&icid=eng_latest_art
Here is a direct walk through link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvsXyeY0HVE&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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You understand they postponed the product announcement. I doubt they are delaying the launch of things (especially on the hardware side).
"Samsung and Google decide to postpone the new product announcement at CTIA Fall. We agree that it is just not the right time to announce a new product. New date and venue will be shortly announced."
The delay sucks.
Here are leaked photos and videos of the Prime running ICS: http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/07/samsung-galaxy-nexus-spotted-in-the-wild-video/
Why the heck was this thread moved?
Ice Cream Sandwich relates to Nexus S, even if there is conversation about Nexus Prime thrown in.
The heck?
Yeah, they aren't delaying any launch. In fact, they will probably just move the announcement to later in the week. It will not affect any dates other than maybe they move the SDK release back two or three days.
Woohoo!
Bring it on!
I hear it's in 29th October
I wish ICS on my Captivate
Gah, first no SGSII on Verizon, now a delay in the announcement for ICS and the Prime? God, why are you punishing me!?
Does this mean that 3.0 + is going to be available for mobiles also ?
Time to wait and see.
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Time to wait and see.
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Let's hope it will be worth waiting ...
Tango is supposed to be released Q1 2012, so shouldn't beta be released by the end of this year? Or is Microsoft waiting for CES?
I got mango 7711 on my phone about 4 months before final 7720. Going by that time frame tango should be out for beta 1 but i haven't heard anything from microsoft about a tentative release schedule for the beta.
Anybody think tango is being delayed until a better chip is manufactured that doesn't kill battery life with the LTE radio? RIM is waiting till end of 2012 to release blackberry 10 because of the same problem with LTE. And i'm sure Apple is waiting as well.
Tango was never meant to be a huge upgrade over mango (that's Apollo), so i'm guessing its some features with mostly hardware upgrades such as LTE and dual core processors.
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Tango was never meant to be a huge upgrade over mango (that's Apollo)
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Maybe that's why. We didn't get NoDo early...
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Didn't think about that, but you're right. Mango was big because the apps needed to be changed to work with instant resume and live tiles. If the apps don't need to be upgraded for tango, there really isn't a reason for msft to release the beta.
I think it will be available after details reveal on CES 2012
7740 Wasn't released to us either... Mango, like Windows8, needed apps to be recoded and recompiled... It made no sense to release it to devs with the general public because no apps would have been available. Tango doesn't represent any change in the way apps run, and I'm sure Microsoft has their own beta team testing it.
I wonder if there will be Georgian language support. Mango lacks it. It would be nice to read in Georgian in native apps.
Same question about Georgian language support
2012 International CES, January 10-13
thats when we'll find out
"TmoNews has obtained a roadmap for T-Mobile (just which carrier were you expecting?) that looks to have come from an internal document. The roadmap not only shows you which handsets to expect to see down the road from the nation's fourth largest carrier, but also reveals when to expect some Android 4.0 updates. Let's start there. According to the roadmap, T-Mobile's version of the Samsung Galaxy S II will receive its Android 4.0 update on May 14th. That will be followed on June 16th with the Ice Cream Sandwich update for the HTC Sensation 4G and HTC Amaze 4G."
Could this mean our skyrockets might be rocking an official release soon? I have my fingers crossed that At&t will get their rears into gear and push out our release before T-mobile.
P.S. Long time forums ghost 1st time poster, thanks for all the hot roms!
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"TmoNews has obtained a roadmap for T-Mobile (just which carrier were you expecting?) that looks to have come from an internal document. The roadmap not only shows you which handsets to expect to see down the road from the nation's fourth largest carrier, but also reveals when to expect some Android 4.0 updates. Let's start there. According to the roadmap, T-Mobile's version of the Samsung Galaxy S II will receive its Android 4.0 update on May 14th. That will be followed on June 16th with the Ice Cream Sandwich update for the HTC Sensation 4G and HTC Amaze 4G."
Could this mean our skyrockets might be rocking an official release soon? I have my fingers crossed that At&t will get their rears into gear and push out our release before T-mobile.
P.S. Long time forums ghost 1st time poster, thanks for all the hot roms!
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Lookin' forward to it!