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Xperia X1a vs Fuze

Looks like the Xperia X1a is dropping in the U.s. at at least Best Buy for now. I have read good reviews on both devices. Has anyone seen a good head to head comparison of these two devices? It looks like they are in the same league. Thanks

I think it comes down to $299 (+2yr contract) for the Fuze, or $799 (+service you were going to pay for anyway) for a WVGA screen and headphone jack. All other pros/cons seem to vary from one reviewer to another.

The Xperia is metal construction. The Fuze is mostly plastic and high gloss black ( print magnet) The keys are spread out nice on the Xperia, bunched up on the Fuze due to the smaller size. There is a slight tilt on the Xperia and the slide is straight out on the Fuze. I know there are a lot of software differences but just wanted to state the obvious physical differences I compared.
If the Xperia sold for $600 it would be the best deal for a PDA Phone in a long while. $865 from a Sony Style store is just a lot of jack in this economy. ( tax inc )
I have looked at the FUZE and the Touch Pro at Sprint. Something has kept me from buyin either one of them. Yeah I sold the X1a a day later for about the same as what I paid for it. Sonystyle wants 15% restock fee ( ouch )

fhsieh said:
I think it comes down to $299 (+2yr contract) for the Fuze, or $799 (+service you were going to pay for anyway) for a WVGA screen and headphone jack. All other pros/cons seem to vary from one reviewer to another.
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not necessarily , because you can get the fuze for $299 on 2 year contract, unlock it for free, sell it for ~$500 and then use that money to buy the xperia, making it only 2-300 more expensive. still more than it should be, but not as bad as people are making it seem..

omaralt said:
not necessarily , because you can get the fuze for $299 on 2 year contract, unlock it for free, sell it for ~$500 and then use that money to buy the xperia, making it only 2-300 more expensive. still more than it should be, but not as bad as people are making it seem..
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Okay you two are on par, but compare it this way.
No-commitment price = $500
RETAIL PRICE = $849.99
Xprea X1a RETAIL PRICE = $800
It's a hell of a deal. Notice why I put two prices. Because you can only get the $500 deal if you're a customer of AT&T. If you're comparing the retail prices, I suggest you compare the retail prices. Not retail vs no-commitment. The $500 price is retail for AT&T customers only.

i mean, come on, anybody can get a brand new fuze for $500 + tax. If your not an at&t customer, i'm sure you know somebody whos an at&t customer, ask him/her to go buy one for you, no committment. the people who get screwed are our nice neighbors to the north (canadians). none of their gsm carriers have picked up this phone, and i hear the fuze is selling for north of $600 up there..

omaralt said:
i mean, come on, anybody can get a brand new fuze for $500 + tax. If your not an at&t customer, i'm sure you know somebody whos an at&t customer, ask him/her to go buy one for you, no committment. the people who get screwed are our nice neighbors to the north (canadians). none of their gsm carriers have picked up this phone, and i hear the fuze is selling for north of $600 up there..
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True. But I was comparing the real retail price. Not how cheap you can get it for. I mean I bet someone could get it for free if they stole it. Or $100 if they worked for Sony or whatever. You know what I meant.
My reasons: PHAIL = bad; WIN = good
NO G-SENSOR! PHAIL!
Embedded screen! PHAIL!
Screen res. WIN!/PHAIL! (depending on pov. To install apps - fail; beauty - win)
TF3D and Panels! WIN!
No tv-out! PHAIL!
Metal casing. WIN!
Roomy buttons. WIN!
Price. UBER PHAIL! (I ain't paying that much for a device. IDK if you people like buying every phone for $1000+ as some of you have.)
Sony camera. WIN!

Kraize said:
True. But I was comparing the real retail price. Not how cheap you can get it for. I mean I bet someone could get it for free if they stole it. Or $100 if they worked for Sony or whatever. You know what I meant.
My reasons: PHAIL = bad; WIN = good
NO G-SENSOR! PHAIL!
Embedded screen! PHAIL!
Screen res. WIN!/PHAIL! (depending on pov. To install apps - fail; beauty - win)
TF3D and Panels! WIN!
No tv-out! PHAIL!
Metal casing. WIN!
Roomy buttons. WIN!
Price. UBER PHAIL! (I ain't paying that much for a device. IDK if you people like buying every phone for $1000+ as some of you have.)
Sony camera. WIN!
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But I'd guess most in the US eying on an xperia are already with att, or at least considering it. After all, xperia has the att 3g band, not tmo.
As a side note, I think x1 wins in terms of form factor and battery life as well. But even if the two were the same price, I would have gotten a touch pro. I am very, VERY happy with its keyboard.

What's with this "No commitment price"? I went to Fry's Electronics (big box store like Best Buy), and bought the phone for $475+tax (This was Saturday). While my wife drove, I called up AT&T and asked them for the unlock code. They asked for the IMEA number, I gave them that... and they gave me the unlock code. Phone was up and working on the T-Mobile system before we got home 10 minutes later.
Sure, I don't have 3G... but I like my $15/month unlimited data plan with tethering and free Hotspot calling. AT&T wants $60 for that plan. At 156K/s vs 500k/s... that's just not worth it! (And no, I don't think most people could get the plan I have with T-Mobile... had an account with them since they were called VoiceStream...)
All that being said - I owned an X1i for 5 days. It was hands down the faster phone (all that AT&T garbage probably slows the Fuze down... I'll flash it after I figure out what I really want to do with it). But the screen just didn't do it for me. The Fuze screen is flush with the face of the phone and I think that is a clear win over the X1 (think about how beat up that screen is going to look after a few months). The keyboards are 6 of 1, 1/2 dozen of the other in use. I could use both keyboards just fine. The X1i seemed to have this issue, however, where the software keyboard would launch any time input was required ... even if the keyboard was out. Very annoying. The Fuze let's me choose.
The X1 never locked up on me, and I did a ton of installs and had lots of apps open. The Fuze has locked up almost daily for me. Again, I think it is the AT&T bloatware, but I'm not sure.
So my review is also a little mixed. In the end I made a deal with my wife that if I didn't like the Fuze after a month or so, I'd give it to her and get the X1a (since I figure the price will have dropped by then).
Right now, at a price of $475 vs $799.99 it isn't a contest. When neither phone is a clear winner in any category I would say let value decide - and the Fuze is clearly the better value right now.

@Ghallo
Really I have no idea. Yes, it's true that you can get it for $500 anywhere. But if you call AT&T cs. They'll tell you that retail pricing is for those that don't have Aee Tee & Tee and no-commitment (retail for customers) is the no-contract price for Aee Tee & Tee customers.

Fuze or Tilt2??

I am about to get a new phone and I wanted some feedback if possible.
I am with at&t and am about to renew my contract. I can get:
1. Fuze refurb from Amazon for $75 and keep my current voice plan of $39.99 (I hardly use my minutes, most of who I call is free anyways).
or
2.Tilt2 from letstalk for $99, but I have to have a voice plan of $59.99 for six months to get that deal.
Any Fuze then Tilt owners that can help me make this decision??
Thanks!

If it were me I would go with the Tilt 2 then drop the voice plan after six months.

I had the ttyn II the tilt and now I have the fuze. I played with touch pro @ or Tilt2 it's primarily the same as the fuze except for the tilting screen and it doesn't have a flash. also the screen on the tilt2 is larger. the touchpro 2 is newer other than that really didn't see anything too great. if the flash means nothing then get the touchpro2.

There is hardly any comparison, I would go for Rhodium. Tilt rules.

Thanks for the input. I think I'll get the Tilt2. Although a flash would be great, I do have a camera to take pictures and I think I have a flashlight around somewhere...

Which Sprint HTC Phone would you get?

I am a avid AT&T Wizard user, but my wife has been a long time Sprint 6600 Harrier user. It keeps shutting off randomly.
I want to find her a HTC sprint CDMA replacement for under $100.
She has the Sprint Power Vision Pack, which means I should be OK on the data plan.
It looks like the mogul has a great following, so I am leaning towards it.
Any recommendations?
Looks like I can find the 6700 and Touch around here too in my price range.
The Touch Pro appears to be out of my range, and I am not a fan of the AT&T fuze......
All help appreciated! Thanks!!!!!

What about that new Samsung with wm6.5, touch screen, WiFi, GPS, and keyboard on the front? No, XDA support but you do get a good quality phone with a very good Samsung SQ. There is the HTC Diamond, and the Samsung Omnia if you can do keyboardless.

A friend showed me the TP2 which is very cool. He called Sprint & got it for $199 w/ 2yr contract.

I think I found an oldy but goody!
Sprint Mogul, brand new in the retail box, with extra battery, and all cables.
I was skeptical, but it was indeed mint. She had gotten it in the past and she thought it was too complicated.
Thanks for the responses!

Did I pay too much for my ATT FUZE?

I recently just bought a Fuze for an UPGRADE from my ATT store for 210.00 after charges. So far I'm not 100% satisfied with this phone and I'm thinking about returning it. Out of the box it sucked and I feel as though I could have bought a better phone for around the same price. Thoughts?

I am surprised AT&T still sells the Fuze. They sell the newer version HTC Tilt2 for $200 with a 2-year contract. If you had to extend your contract to get the Fuze for $210, consider your options. The Fuze is a very good Windows Mobile phone but newer phones have bigger screens and ship with Windows Mobile 6.5.

210 sounds like a lot. i got mine for 40 bucks
no contract

yea, im going to take it back tomorrow. Out of the box, how is the Tilt2 compared to the fuze? the fuze is a neat phone but even after installing an updated ROM from the HTC site and putting on Diamond Tweak and Diamond TF3D and about 10 other apps I still find that the tf3d isnt very smooth/responsive and im having other problems as well. Thanks for responding guys.

lostmenoggin said:
I recently just bought a Fuze for an UPGRADE from my ATT store for 210.00 after charges. So far I'm not 100% satisfied with this phone and I'm thinking about returning it. Out of the box it sucked and I feel as though I could have bought a better phone for around the same price. Thoughts?
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Upgrade? As in you renew a contract and they gave you a Fuze for $210?
Yes, you overpaid for it. By a large amount. The phone can be purchased for about $120 unlocked nowadays.
Personally, whenever I purchase cell phones, I always do it online (yes, including by one on contract). Other places are almost always cheaper than retail stores. I remember a few months back, AT&T was selling the Touch Pro2 (i.e. Tilt2) on contract for about $250; by comparison, Amazon was offering it for free.
As for the Tilt2, it is much better than the Fuze out of the box. If you can find an AT&T store that lets you try out the phones, you can test it out yourself there.

EVO no more.. T-mo here I come.

I love my evo, however I can no longer afford sprint. Bottom line is I'll be joining the T-mo family. I'm going to be picking up a Touch 4G off of craigslist. I'm looking at spending between about 250. The Sensation is out of my cost range. I'm going on the family value plan for 99.89 for two lines. Any suggestions on this phone or any other. What pitfalls could i get into with buying one off craigslist, can these phones be blacklisted like sprint(I.E. bad ESN), I know they take sim cards. Any other tips . My I going to be disappointed because I can’t get my flash on…
Thx

First of all welcome to the GSM world and temporary TMo as soon to be part of the Death Star. So technically if you have the phones IMEI on the network the operator can block it from connecting to the tower, but however its not fully enforced by any GSM TelecoOperator in USA. Far as the plan goes the value plan is ok I guess in attempt to lock in user in to contract so they are stuck after the merge.
Sent from my HTC Glacier

godgib said:
I love my evo, however I can no longer afford sprint. Bottom line is I'll be joining the T-mo family. I'm going to be picking up a Touch 4G off of craigslist. I'm looking at spending between about 250. The Sensation is out of my cost range. I'm going on the family value plan for 99.89 for two lines. Any suggestions on this phone or any other. What pitfalls could i get into with buying one off craigslist, can these phones be blacklisted like sprint(I.E. bad ESN), I know they take sim cards. Any other tips . My I going to be disappointed because I can’t get my flash on…
Thx
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The MT4G is a very good phone. Even though it has a smaller screen than the Evo's the 2nd Generation Snapdragon makes it so much faster and better on games than the Evo.
Plus the S-LCD screen is nice.
BUT
Things to check before buying it from a guy of CL is that the MT4G comes with 2 different types of screens. The nice Super LCD that I already mentioned, or a washed out TFT screen. Now the TFT screen is pretty similar to the Evo's so I'm sure you know what that looks like. Easy way to tell is that a S-LCD doesn't change colors on angles, TFT does. It's a dead giveaway.
ALSO
The MT4G comes with two different types of eMMC chips where having the so called "bad" CAN cause a permanent brick to your phone shortly after rooting and flashing.
Now it's not a definite brick because I used to have the "bad" chip and was perfectly fine for months, but many weren't as lucky as me. So to be on the safe side make sure you get the one with the good chip.
Easiest way to check is once you get a chance to test the one you're about to buy, download Terminal Emulator from the market.
Then open it and type int he following:
Code:
cat /sys/class/block/mmcblk0/device/name
Then press enter.
If it says SEM04G then that's the good chip. So that's a green light.
BUT, if you see M4G2DE then that's the "bad" chip and I would stay away from purchasing that one and look for another seller.
Anyways, hoped I helped. This is a very powerful phone and I'm sure you'll love it if you can disregard the fact that it's a tad bit smaller than the Evo when it comes to the screen size.
If you want to read more information about the eMMC chips then take a look at this thread.

Thanks for that info on good/bad chips. Thinking about getting one for my wife off CL so I dont have to worry about contracts. Still hoping deal with the Deathstar will be killed.

why dont you use amazonwireless.com ? you can get the phones dirt cheap, i played 7 bucks for new mytouch 4g and a cent for droid 1 a year or so before the mytouch4g

Fellow ex sprint here too, albeit an ex epic user... Left tmobile about a year ago. Missed it and came back.Got two free mt4g on tmobile.com
All kinds of neat benefits after the switch, like tmobiles ” fake” 4g that usually nets me over 10+ down, where as sprint would only get around 3. And you can surf the net while on the phone while texting while driving (using the genius button and dragon dictation of course)
Sent from my HTC Glacier using Tapatalk

Yes, I also switched to the tmobile Value Plan last month, AT&T was getting too expensive, anyways I was using my Xperia X10 until yesterday where I got a MT4G dirt cheap on craigslist, for only $175! It has the good emmc chip and the slcd screen! Also came with the carrying case thingie I consider myself lucky. This phone is seriously SOOOO much faster than my X10 it's not even funny!

Welcome to t-mobile. 9 year customer. I've had every android phone that t-mobile has had since the g1 out of all of them HTC built the best. They all were sturdy build with class. Still going to get the sensation soon. But the mytouch u will enjoy. Might want to root. The espresso bubbled sense I don't care for. I'm on the sensation Rom through Virtuous Unity with absolutely no problems in my book
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So i want 2 Touch Slide 4G, but on the value plan tmo whats you to pay retail for the phone and that's like $1000. Here's my work around.... No not craigslist, Go to best buy get the the classic family 1000 with data and txting it's comes out to $119 a month for the two lines. Pay $0 for the 4G touch slide. Wait a month and pay tmo 400 for changing my plan to the value family 1000 that $79 a and re-up my conteract for two yrs.
The differance in the two plans is $40X24=960
I gave tmo 0 for the phones and 400 for the EFT so I'm out 400.
So i either got two NEW phones for 300, Maybe even cheaper then craiglist.
Or I save 560 over 24 months.
The Very Simple Math
960-400=560
What Am I missing.