EVO no more.. T-mo here I come. - myTouch 4G General

I love my evo, however I can no longer afford sprint. Bottom line is I'll be joining the T-mo family. I'm going to be picking up a Touch 4G off of craigslist. I'm looking at spending between about 250. The Sensation is out of my cost range. I'm going on the family value plan for 99.89 for two lines. Any suggestions on this phone or any other. What pitfalls could i get into with buying one off craigslist, can these phones be blacklisted like sprint(I.E. bad ESN), I know they take sim cards. Any other tips . My I going to be disappointed because I can’t get my flash on…
Thx

First of all welcome to the GSM world and temporary TMo as soon to be part of the Death Star. So technically if you have the phones IMEI on the network the operator can block it from connecting to the tower, but however its not fully enforced by any GSM TelecoOperator in USA. Far as the plan goes the value plan is ok I guess in attempt to lock in user in to contract so they are stuck after the merge.
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godgib said:
I love my evo, however I can no longer afford sprint. Bottom line is I'll be joining the T-mo family. I'm going to be picking up a Touch 4G off of craigslist. I'm looking at spending between about 250. The Sensation is out of my cost range. I'm going on the family value plan for 99.89 for two lines. Any suggestions on this phone or any other. What pitfalls could i get into with buying one off craigslist, can these phones be blacklisted like sprint(I.E. bad ESN), I know they take sim cards. Any other tips . My I going to be disappointed because I can’t get my flash on…
Thx
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The MT4G is a very good phone. Even though it has a smaller screen than the Evo's the 2nd Generation Snapdragon makes it so much faster and better on games than the Evo.
Plus the S-LCD screen is nice.
BUT
Things to check before buying it from a guy of CL is that the MT4G comes with 2 different types of screens. The nice Super LCD that I already mentioned, or a washed out TFT screen. Now the TFT screen is pretty similar to the Evo's so I'm sure you know what that looks like. Easy way to tell is that a S-LCD doesn't change colors on angles, TFT does. It's a dead giveaway.
ALSO
The MT4G comes with two different types of eMMC chips where having the so called "bad" CAN cause a permanent brick to your phone shortly after rooting and flashing.
Now it's not a definite brick because I used to have the "bad" chip and was perfectly fine for months, but many weren't as lucky as me. So to be on the safe side make sure you get the one with the good chip.
Easiest way to check is once you get a chance to test the one you're about to buy, download Terminal Emulator from the market.
Then open it and type int he following:
Code:
cat /sys/class/block/mmcblk0/device/name
Then press enter.
If it says SEM04G then that's the good chip. So that's a green light.
BUT, if you see M4G2DE then that's the "bad" chip and I would stay away from purchasing that one and look for another seller.
Anyways, hoped I helped. This is a very powerful phone and I'm sure you'll love it if you can disregard the fact that it's a tad bit smaller than the Evo when it comes to the screen size.
If you want to read more information about the eMMC chips then take a look at this thread.

Thanks for that info on good/bad chips. Thinking about getting one for my wife off CL so I dont have to worry about contracts. Still hoping deal with the Deathstar will be killed.

why dont you use amazonwireless.com ? you can get the phones dirt cheap, i played 7 bucks for new mytouch 4g and a cent for droid 1 a year or so before the mytouch4g

Fellow ex sprint here too, albeit an ex epic user... Left tmobile about a year ago. Missed it and came back.Got two free mt4g on tmobile.com
All kinds of neat benefits after the switch, like tmobiles ” fake” 4g that usually nets me over 10+ down, where as sprint would only get around 3. And you can surf the net while on the phone while texting while driving (using the genius button and dragon dictation of course)
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Yes, I also switched to the tmobile Value Plan last month, AT&T was getting too expensive, anyways I was using my Xperia X10 until yesterday where I got a MT4G dirt cheap on craigslist, for only $175! It has the good emmc chip and the slcd screen! Also came with the carrying case thingie I consider myself lucky. This phone is seriously SOOOO much faster than my X10 it's not even funny!

Welcome to t-mobile. 9 year customer. I've had every android phone that t-mobile has had since the g1 out of all of them HTC built the best. They all were sturdy build with class. Still going to get the sensation soon. But the mytouch u will enjoy. Might want to root. The espresso bubbled sense I don't care for. I'm on the sensation Rom through Virtuous Unity with absolutely no problems in my book
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So i want 2 Touch Slide 4G, but on the value plan tmo whats you to pay retail for the phone and that's like $1000. Here's my work around.... No not craigslist, Go to best buy get the the classic family 1000 with data and txting it's comes out to $119 a month for the two lines. Pay $0 for the 4G touch slide. Wait a month and pay tmo 400 for changing my plan to the value family 1000 that $79 a and re-up my conteract for two yrs.
The differance in the two plans is $40X24=960
I gave tmo 0 for the phones and 400 for the EFT so I'm out 400.
So i either got two NEW phones for 300, Maybe even cheaper then craiglist.
Or I save 560 over 24 months.
The Very Simple Math
960-400=560
What Am I missing.

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mt4g resale value...

from what i see on ebay new mt4g selling for around 380...im not trying to "flip" this phone but in a year or whenever i decide to upgrade i would sell and from what it seems ill be lucky to get 125-150...when other phones stay in the 225-300 range
anyone else notice this?
yeah and its because of the pricing on amazon and tmobile, which is priced at 79.99 for a 2 year while the others are still at 129.99 and even at 199.99. This comes from tmobile and HTCs contract and their goals for selling the device. It sucks but the positive that i see is that it can either become a big community with development ?
I sold my 20 month old G1 for $110 on eBay when I got the Vibrant last July. Due to all the issues with the Vibrant, I sold it when the MT4G came out. At that time, the Vibrant wasn't even out for 4 months, but I was only able to get $300 for it. From what I understand, they are going for even less on Craigslist.
The moral of the story? If, in a year or so, you are able to get $150 for the MT4G, it's not exactly horrible. There are other phones in the same class that probably won't even fetch that much.
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I sold my 20 month old G1 for $110 on eBay when I got the Vibrant last July. Due to all the issues with the Vibrant, I sold it when the MT4G came out. At that time, the Vibrant wasn't even out for 4 months, but I was only able to get $300 for it. From what I understand, they are going for even less on Craigslist.
The moral of the story? If, in a year or so, you are able to get $150 for the MT4G, it's not exactly horrible. There are other phones in the same class that probably won't even fetch that much.
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I just sold 2 HTC Evo's I got on launch day in June for $300 a piece. If you keep the original box that seems to add resale value for some reason I don't really get. Also having extra accessories to throw in like cases/chargers can be the difference between them choosing your phone and another.
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I just sold 2 HTC Evo's I got on launch day in June for $300 a piece. If you keep the original box that seems to add resale value for some reason I don't really get. Also having extra accessories to throw in like cases/chargers can be the difference between them choosing your phone and another.
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Agreed. I always keep all the boxes and printed literature that comes with my electronics. I also threw in two gel cases and an extra Realook screen protector.
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I just sold 2 HTC Evo's I got on launch day in June for $300 a piece. If you keep the original box that seems to add resale value for some reason I don't really get. Also having extra accessories to throw in like cases/chargers can be the difference between them choosing your phone and another.
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+1 on keeping all the box and everything it came with. It proves to the buyer that the item is not stolen and will fetch a MUCH higher price.
Here's my resale performance:
iPhone 3G 16GB (one year old) = $350
iPhone 3GS 32GB (1.5 years old) = $400
Samsung Captivate (2 months old) = $340
I got $360 for my Nexus One on eBay, which I let go after getting root on the MT4G. Having all original stuff including the box definitely helps.
i keep all my old phones... THEY ARE MINE!!!!!
i have on my desk 3 G1's, 2 MT3G's, 1 ION, 1 N1 (ok this is actually on loan), 1 G2 (gf), 1 MT4G
why did u keep ur g2 when u got ur mt4g ? No contracts?
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my (now ex) girlfriends phone...
work for an indirect dealer.... basically every 3 months i get a phone for new contract price without a contract...
I won't buy a used phone unless the person is selling the orig box and lit. The bar code can be gone but somebody selling the box along with the phone tells me that they will have taken better care of their phone. Maybe not true but I've purchased several phones off ebay and never have had a bad experience with the condition of the phone.
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I won't buy a used phone unless the person is selling the orig box and lit. The bar code can be gone but somebody selling the box along with the phone tells me that they will have taken better care of their phone. Maybe not true but I've purchased several phones off ebay and never have had a bad experience with the condition of the phone.
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Having a box and oem stuff at least tells you the guy did not picked it up from some unlucky soul at a starbucks or local library.
Resale value holds steady
Bought a G1 for 80 with contract
6 months later traded G1 + 50 for HD2
1 month later traded HD2 for Nexus One
8 month later traded Nexus One + 50 for G2
1 week later traded G2 for Nexus One + Dock + Cash
1 month later traded Nexus One + Dock for MT4G
Paid 180 and have had the G1, HD2, Nexus One, G2, and now Mytouch 4g and my 2 year deal is up in March.
Wow all these trading and selling, nice! I've kept all my phones till like a week ago, when I sold the MyTouch 3G to a co worker for $150, and traded my G1 for a Tattoo. LOL. I still have the Nexus One and The Vibrant to play with.

Tegra II Gtab users...who is getting a Motorla Atrix?

I love my gtab but i can see how it might get semi-replaced right off the bat with this Motorla Atrix. Similiar specs and the ports that include laptop key board style usability combined with one for Media outputs will be readily available and easy to find....
My Iphone 3gs contract is up and i am seriously considering this device.
I know there is probably a seperate forum for this phone already but i wanted to see what GTAB users thought about it.
Here is a link fort those in the dark.
It has the Tegra processor, a laptop style doc, a multimedia style doc, and a car doc. Android 2.2.
http://www.att.com/shop/wireless/devices/motorola-atrix.jsp#fbid=Pz0w4Bi9BCz
I wont be getting any locked devices. If Motorola locks the bootloader then I'll wait for something else
I will be getting the Atrix and the docks, this is going to be one bad-azz phone. I am tired of my Iphone after using the Gtab, I have seen the light...
Then again, after reading around about Motorola philosophy of lock down "buy elsewhere" attitude...i may get the Samsung Infuse instead.
Honestly....if i wanted the locked down "buy elsewhere" attitude, why the frack wouldnt i just get the iphone 4 or iphone 5...that attitude kinda DEFEATS the WHOLE purpose of andorid..
No thanks. I'll pass for these reasons:
1. It's a phone, and I have one of those already. I also like to cost of the data plan I'm tied to at the moment.
2. Screen size - I got the G-tablet because I wanted the 10" screen for book/web/whatever reading.
3. If it's going to be locked down like Motorola says it will be, no thanks.
4. AT&T. Plain and simple - I've had way too many bad experiences with them to make me EVER go back.
It's an interesting concept, and if an open alternative which follows that model (specialized docks, etc.) is developed in the future, I may consider moving when I am ready to boot my phone. But at this moment, I'm not seeing anything that's giving me that "I have to have it" wow factor.
BigJohn
BigJohn89 said:
No thanks. I'll pass for these reasons:
1. It's a phone, and I have one of those already. I also like to cost of the data plan I'm tied to at the moment.
2. Screen size - I got the G-tablet because I wanted the 10" screen for book/web/whatever reading.
3. If it's going to be locked down like Motorola says it will be, no thanks.
4. AT&T. Plain and simple - I've had way too many bad experiences with them to make me EVER go back.
It's an interesting concept, and if an open alternative which follows that model (specialized docks, etc.) is developed in the future, I may consider moving when I am ready to boot my phone. But at this moment, I'm not seeing anything that's giving me that "I have to have it" wow factor.
BigJohn
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Like large?
Try this!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyZohb7yhDw&feature=related
To each his own. My experiences with Verizon will make me NEVER go back...EVER.
Years ago i bought a phone with a shared line family plan for me and my wife with verizon...each month the second phone was billed outside of the plan, each month Verizon admitted their mistake, said they would correct the issue and apologized, then the next month..SAME THING ALL OVER AGAIN. After 8 months of that i told them to f*k off and have NEVER been back since.
AT&T on the other hand..i go over my minutes, i call them ask for a new plan...they up the plan and then TAKE OFF THE EXTRA CHARGES...EVERY TIME. Want to drop a line a few months early? No problem...done..no early cancellation fee. They shipped me a bad phone once..no problem..new one sent and old one mailed back, no charge. Battery died a little early once..no problem, service girl in store gave me a free one swapped out of a demo unit..NO CHARGE...the list goes on forever like this. Seriously, their customer service is Five star...its good enough that i am willing to accept the dead zones on I20 in a 4 mile area between augusta and atlanta and one in mid columbia thats about 2 miles long...
Just saying..for every "i hate AT&T" story....i have ones about how Verizon has the WORST customer service in the HISTORY of cell phones when it comes to needing something done. (and not come back the VERY next month..until you LOSE IT and go PSYCHO after 2/3rds of a year...)
OH and coverage? We have all seen the commercials right..the maps? I have traveled with my AT&T to cincinatti, NYC, Richmond, Charlotte, Winston Salem, Columbia, Greensboro, Atlanta, Valdosta, Northen LA, Asheville, Pigeon Forge, Gatlinberg, Savanna, Chaleston, Myrtle beach, Hilton Head, DC, Va Beach, North Kentucky, etc...
Zero problems..
My sister and mothers house in Pleasant Graden NC...NO VERIZON coverage...AT&T phone works fine there..no problems.
Maybe i just have bizzaro luck..or maybe the commercials about Verizons coverage are over-hyped??
I dont know...personal experience versus commercials..im going to go with my actual experience
Nuff said.
The G-tab has a 10" screen. These are two completely different products. There's no way I would consider going smaller unless it is as a complimentary device, not a replacement.
1. AT&T Fail
2. Not 10" screen
3. Not a tablet
4. Better products will be out soon enough
I won't be buying it.
At&t 3G coverage as terrible unless in larger city areas. Not as bad as Tmo, but neither are in the same league for 3G as VZW.
Bionic seems interesting, but no buy if the bootloader is locked. I may be keeping my Inc a LOT longer than planned
It works great with gTablet for tethering, so okay with me
BTW, 4.3" seems big (for a phone it is), but try a 4.3" display for about 15 minutes and then try the gTablet. The 4.3" is functionally no better than than a 3.7" in comparison.
I believe a phone that docks into everything is that future, but the atrix isn't quite there yet.
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sanvara said:
The G-tab has a 10" screen. These are two completely different products. There's no way I would consider going smaller unless it is as a complimentary device, not a replacement.
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Well regarding the Atrix it has a VERY small screen...but the orginal post was referring to the ability to use a keyboard 15inch screen laptop as a PORT!
Complimentary device maybe...but with the right phone i might use the gtab...less than i do now.
The iphone is DEFINATELY going...
What new phone style products are coming that might be better options?
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BTW, 4.3" seems big (for a phone it is), but try a 4.3" display for about 15 minutes and then try the gTablet. The 4.3" is functionally no better than than a 3.7" in comparison.
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The infuse has a 4.5 inch screen..that thing almost seems like a small tablet compared the years i have spent surfing o my 3GS.
Regarding AT&Ts service..you might be on to somehting there. 99% of my travel is to LARGE cities. For the last 4 years namely its been NYC and Atlanta. When i go home though..in the TINY city of lexington SC from my home....3G service works great. At my girl friends home in Augusta GA, 3G service works great. Usually when i am in a small town though, i am at someones house who has wi-fi hooked up (including mine).
To each his own but Verizons customer serivce is so horrible..i wouldnt care if they had 10G service i would not use them. I might feel different if my luck with always having a 3G or wi-fi signal wasnt so good all the time though.
My gtab mainly does duty as a light alternative to my lap top for when im in the bed surfing the net or want to watch a movie on something in bed or on an airplane etc. I use it as a newsreader from a book stand on my desk at work also through out the day and it makes a great orginizer from same position. I have COMPLETELY stopped using it to type on or try to create any content though...couldnt handle the touch screen keyboard, its worse than using both the lap top and the iphone. It also works great to watch movies on long car trips and for quick "let me check on that" type of internet tasks from home when i am too inpatient to wait for the lap top to boot up.
Truthfully all these devices have their role but i initially posted about the Atrix as it seemed possibly capable of crossing into multiple roles.
One more thing to consider regarding carriers and then i will drop it.
This is a HUGE one.
AT&T has grandfathered all of its users who had smart phones prior to June of 2010 in so that they will continue to get UNLIMITED data for $29.00 a month regardless of how many times they renew or change phones.
Verizon may offer that for one time only introductory rate only, but everyone else (and when your contract is up) you will be locked into only getting 2G per month at a rate only $5.00 cheaper a month.
Now in 2013 rolls around ill be able to get 5G or more in data a month using the SAME technology verizon has, for probably HALF the cost (verizon charges I think $20 extra per G over the 2G) while retaining superior customer service.
Math:
5G from Verizon=$25+$20+$20=$65.00
5G from AT&T grandfathered customers=$29.00
This will be the reality by the time i get around to my next cell phone contract (after the one im about to start) as AT&T will have its LTE network up by then in the larger cities..
So there is that...
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Like large?
Try this!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyZohb7yhDw&feature=related
To each his own. My experiences with Verizon will make me NEVER go back...EVER.
(Excess text of AT&T vs Verizon rant removed by BJ89)
My sister and mothers house in Pleasant Graden NC...NO VERIZON coverage...AT&T phone works fine there..no problems.
Maybe i just have bizzaro luck..or maybe the commercials about Verizons coverage are over-hyped??
I dont know...personal experience versus commercials..im going to go with my actual experience
Nuff said.
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Actually, I find it quite funny about how you totally ignored the meaning of my post and turned the whole thing into an evangelism for AT&T - all while assuming I use Verizon.
The purpose of my post was to state that I bought the G-tab because I wanted a large-screened tablet for reading/web surfing/similar tasks. I already have a phone with a data plan, and I do not want another. I also didn't go with an iPad or a Galaxy tab for the same reason - to get one at a price point similar to the G-tab, I would have to go with one that is subsidized by a carrier. Which means another data plan to pay for.
BTW, comparing the Atrix and the G-Tab is a waste of time as most people will treat them as two separate products with different purposes.
The Samsung phone you linked to was nice, but you glossed over the fact that I said that I didn't want another phone at this time - or in the near future.
Regarding the whole AT&T vs Verizon thing - I have had bad experiences with AT&T for quite a long time; even going as far back to before AT&T took over Cingular. It wasn't a one-time incident, and eventually I gave up dealing with them. It's my choice not to deal with them as much as it's your choice to use them.
I know there are plenty of people that have had bad customer service issues with my carrier of choice as well - which, by the way, is Sprint and not Verizon.
BigJohn
Various blogs have reported that Motorola is leaving the bootloader unlocked.
I read the reviews and it seams the laptop dock is pretty much just a gimmick and not all that useful. Sweet phone though. If I was going to spend a ton of cash on a phone and or a new plan anyways I might consider it. Happy with my gTab and HD2 for now though.
I'm def. not.
599/499 for a phone and a dock with a screen? I think not. It's essentially still just a phone. Some people change their phones every year or 2. So you're either locking yourself into an expensive short term investment or willing to hold on to older tech for longer, in which case maybe it would be worth it. You're also locked into a data contract for 2 years - inflating the cost of the package drastically.
Option 2 is a tablet for 379/399, a $40 wireless mouse/kb bundle from logitech or ms and a $50 hdmi dock, then hook it up to your LCD TV or monitor and voila, similar effect albeit not as mobile as the atrix lapdock, but if you're willing to carry that around in a bag, why not just buy a more powerful netbook or laptop for $300 upfront and let that be that? It just doesn't make much sense at the current price point.
It's a gimmick, imho.
If the entire dock were maybe $100-150 then it might pass as worthwhile. That would essentially give you a phone and 'netbook' transformer for $350 which is around the cost of a netbook/laptop/tablet. At 299/399 with/without a rebate for the dock alone and that's not including the cost of being locked into a contract for 2 years....whereas the VS is 399 off the bat, no catch, it's not really for me. To each his own though. I'm sure there are reasons to get it.

[Q] Would you get the Charge again?

With possible tiered data plans looming on Verizon, I'm now in the market for a smartphone. I want to get in with unlimited data. I'm in a 4G area, and want a 4G phone. I'm trying to decide which to get. Currently I'm leaning toward the Charge.
From those who actually own this device, would you get it again, or would you go with something else? Are you happy with the dev work, or other phones are better? Sell me, one way or the other.
alohasurf0007 said:
With possible tiered data plans looming on Verizon, I'm now in the market for a smartphone. I want to get in with unlimited data. I'm in a 4G area, and want a 4G phone. I'm trying to decide which to get. Currently I'm leaning toward the Charge.
From those who actually own this device, would you get it again, or would you go with something else? Are you happy with the dev work, or other phones are better? Sell me, one way or the other.
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well..let me help...I love the CHARGE...and I had a Thunderbolt for 6 months.......I happen to like the fact that the CHARGE has kinda a flimsy battery cover..to me..since it is "flimsy" it makes it lighter then the Thunderbolt....
as far as battery life..it never really affected me because I have an extended battery for my Charge and I also had one for more Thunderbolt....so they both lasted me the day...the only con I find with the Charge compared to the TB is that with the Thunderbolt whenever you got new e mail or txt message there was and LCD that flashed on the device....with the Charge...there is no LCD notification.....let me ad..that is not a deal breaker...for me...the charge is a better phone...and yes...I rooted and had custom roms on both.....and I rooted right away so can not give you a comparision stock LOL
I finally took the plunge and got a charge. I was always a sense guy. I loved the incredible, even with its horrific battery (before froyo and rooting). Thus the thunderbolt was the natural pick for me. But i needed a phone for phone calls, and the voice quality on that phone was lacking. A lot. So i finally sold off my thunderbolt and got a charge. I hate Samsung 's touchwiz and the stock apps are nothing compared to the stock sense ones, but there are some great alternatives in the market. My charge works great with launcherpro, the go dialer and handcent.
The orange theme though needs to go. Whichever Samsung or Verizon person thought up the brown and orange theme needs to get his eyes checked. And seriously reconsider his life decisions. Thank goodness for xda !
But i love the hardware. Made the thing worth it. Feels great in hand and i love the little thing.
alohasurf0007 said:
With possible tiered data plans looming on Verizon, I'm now in the market for a smartphone. I want to get in with unlimited data. I'm in a 4G area, and want a 4G phone.
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Word has it that the tired data plans are only for new plans and that existing customers - even those that upgrade after the tired plans are in effect will not be affected. My referance: droid-life.com/2011/06/21/current-verizon-customers-wont-be-affected-by-tiered-data-only-new-customers-and-lines/
As for the charge - I was thinking that I should wait for a dual core phone with the latest and greatest processor but this phone is plenty fast and the network has much more an effect on usability than how fast a quadrant score you get.
"whenever you got new e mail or txt message there was and LCD that flashed on the device....with the Charge...there is no LCD notification"
I use the highly-rated noled, available on the android market, to handle notifications and it works well for me. I don't miss the dedicated led that was on my Droid 1.
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The orange theme though needs to go. Whichever Samsung or Verizon person thought up the brown and orange theme needs to get his eyes checked. And seriously reconsider his life decisions. Thank goodness for xda !
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Don't mean to pick on you... but have you looked at the XDA site???
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Don't mean to pick on you... but have you looked at the XDA site???
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Wow, did not even realize our stock Droid Charges were xda-themed...
LOL, never really noticed the similarity between xda and Charge's color theme. Clearly similar, but it's much more orange and stark on the Charge. On my MacBook the forum here looks brown and shades of off-white/tan, not dark brown and stark orange.
To the OP, no, in hindsight I would not buy the Charge again, especially at this late date. I bought it because I love SAMOLED screens, and I wanted a second LTE unlimited data phone on the family plan before they went away.
My suggestion at this point is if you want to buy an LTE phone for that reason, buy either the Charge or the TB in the next week or two AT COSTCO. You'll lock into the data plan, but Costco gives you 90 days to swap the phone for a different model if you're not happy with it. Hopefully the Bionic or Galaxy S 2 or some LTE phone that actually has a nice screen and decent battery life and non-lagged performance will be out and you can swap for it.
Thanks all for your feedback. And the note about Costco is very interesting. I saw the other day they were selling it for $180, with extras.
I'm looking to find more information about the %20 corp discount change. Currently my wife has that on her line, and it's not something I'd be happy about loosing if that's the case.
I'm digging this phone. Like the screen and its physical buttons. Lte is great and plentiful in my area. Going to root and flash gummycharge when I get home.
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Definitely go with the charge... no boot loader locks, easy odin flashing, plenty of dev work, best looking non iphone screen on the market, great battery life, comes with a 32gb sdcard,
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I would get it again, but if I were already on a Fascinate (or other SGS phone) and looking to upgrade without the intention of locking in unlimited 4G/data, then I'd stay with what I had. Regardless of what you have now, if you're looking to upgrade to a 4G phone, I'd say the Charge is the one to have.
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Word has it that the tired data plans are only for new plans and that existing customers - even those that upgrade after the tired plans are in effect will not be affected. My referance: droid-life.com/2011/06/21/current-verizon-customers-wont-be-affected-by-tiered-data-only-new-customers-and-lines/
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This is not entirely correct. Existing smartphone users will not be affected, if you already have unlimited data, you're good. If you don't have it on July 7th, you're not getting it, period.
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My suggestion at this point is if you want to buy an LTE phone for that reason, buy either the Charge or the TB in the next week or two AT COSTCO. You'll lock into the data plan, but Costco gives you 90 days to swap the phone for a different model if you're not happy with it. Hopefully the Bionic or Galaxy S 2 or some LTE phone that actually has a nice screen and decent battery life and non-lagged performance will be out and you can swap for it.
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Oh wow nice idea, 90 days is quite some time.
Yeah, I just picked up my Charge yesterday to lock in my lte data. I always buy at costco, I'll be good to pick up any phones that come out until the end of August. By the way, the computers for Verizon code 4g and 3g differently in the system, even if they cost the same. I spoke to the rep there and he showed my fascinate line was a 3g device and the charge said 4g device in Verizon's system on his screen. He said the change happened a month or so ago. I called customer service and she said she couldn't comment on unreleased information, but "hypothetically" if you have a 3g plan and are grandfathered, and then get a 4g phone after unlimited goes away, even though the 4g plans cost the same, you will be seen as having a different data package in Verizon's system and be forced to pay the tiered pricing. Verizon isn't stupid.
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Yeah, I just picked up my Charge yesterday to lock in my lte data. I always buy at costco, I'll be good to pick up any phones that come out until the end of August. By the way, the computers for Verizon code 4g and 3g differently in the system, even if they cost the same. I spoke to the rep there and he showed my fascinate line was a 3g device and the charge said 4g device in Verizon's system on his screen. He said the change happened a month or so ago. I called customer service and she said she couldn't comment on unreleased information, but "hypothetically" if you have a 3g plan and are grandfathered, and then get a 4g phone after unlimited goes away, even though the 4g plans cost the same, you will be seen as having a different data package in Verizon's system and be forced to pay the tiered pricing. Verizon isn't stupid.
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Just to clarify.........
I have an SGS (Vibrant), but am going to switch to Verizon soon (before 6 July). I called a Verizon Customer Service rep yesterday and asked about the data info. Long story short, If you have "an unlimited data plan" (3G/4G - doesn't matter), you will be grandfathered in to the unlimited data for $30 until you upgrade your phone or 2 years, whichever is first. If you get a new phone withing the next two years, you will be forced into the new tiered data plan. If you keep the same phone for two years, at the end of that 2 years, you will be forced to switch to the tiered data plan. AT&T is doing the same thing once it acquires T-Mobile. Hope this helps and clarifies info for someone.
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Well that goes against what Droid-Life is saying, and AC and Engadget are repeating, that existing smartphone customers will be able to keep their existing unlimited plans when they upgrade. That's what most of the data out now suggests, and the fact that some CSR's are repeating it and there seems to be a few documents out now seems to confirm it. There's a pretty huge difference between us being able to upgrade and keep unlimited or not after the 7th, and VZW can't afford to have confusion being spread by their employees. So I would think that if they were not allowing us to upgrade keeping unlimited, they would have made it very clear to their employees from the beginning, rather than leaving it ambiguous, or even suggesting something that wasn't true.
Regardless, if we accept that as true, which most people do at this point, we still don't know what they'll count as a change or not. People who bought smartphones off ebay but never got a smartphone when renewing their contract likely won't be eligible, since they aren't technically smartphone customers in VZW's system. We also don't know if people switching to or from Blackberries and iPhones will be counted as having the same plan as an Android device. And the big question is whether someone with an unlimited 3g plan can get a 4g device and keep that unlimited plan. There doesn't seem to be any difference between the plans, but there definitely is, and they could definitely force you to switch to tiered if upgrading to an LTE phone. They haven't said this will be the case, but there hasn't been any info to suggest it won't be.
For this reason alone I'd definitely buy the Charge again. I had no smartphone before, and was able to buy the best LTE smartphone available before D-Day nearly a month ago for $150. I'm locked in to LTE unlimited at least with this phone, and the only "if" is whether VZW will allow us to upgrade to a similar device and keep the plan, since I'll only be going to another LTE Android in the future I'm sure. It won't matter to me whether they distinguish between 3g and 4g plans.
But yeah, the device itself is great, too! Best screen on the market, awesome camera and the ffc is decent, the shape is quite nice once you get used to it, battery life is quite good considering what it is and how heavily I use it, there's a ton of development with much more likely to come, and the SGS platform is still strong hardware. Sure, its not the most powerful thing around anymore by any means, but it'll hold its own, especially with some help from the awesome devs! So yeah, it'll get old after awhile, but I expect the development will keep me happy for quite some time. And there's nothing out there that would be worth missing out on unlimited 4g data for. I REALLY don't want tiered, even if I have to upgrade at full price from here on out.
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From those who actually own this device, would you get it again, or would you go with something else? Are you happy with the dev work, or other phones are better? Sell me, one way or the other.
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My wife and I were in the same position. We both had blackberries and were able to get new phones in June. I heard about the tiered data BS so I started looking for phones so I could lock in unlimited 4G.
After searching/reading about Verizon's 4G phones, I decided to go with the charge with the TB being a close second. What made the decision for me was the screen and the better battery life. (I just got the phone 2 days ago... wife gets hers today)
What I like about the Charge:
Screen is the best I have seen. Really looks great.
Battery life is reasonable
What I don't like:
Cheap plastic construction. (Although I will be putting mine in a holster w/screen cover... so I guess light plastic is better than metal which would get covered anyway). And when I say cheap... I mean cheap. It seems like it is a very soft plastic between the bezel and the back plate. I already got a small nick in mine and I have been babying it until I get a case. Buttons feel good and screen looks great but the chassis sucks.
Worse-than-usual terrible verizon bloatware. Seriously Verizon. **** YOU. If I want all your crap, I would download it. At least make it deletable you ****ing assholes. Ohhh... and thanks for the non-deletable bookmarks to your ****ty websites. I will be rooting and freezing this PURE UNADULTERATED CRAP asap.
No case included with the phone. Even a cheap slip-on plastic sleeve would be nice to tide you over until you have time to order a case.
I don't have much experience with Android (have a couple month old Transformer) but I am pretty sure I am going to hate touchwiz. A lot of things are just plain weird about it.
Anyway, if you have any specific questions, ask away. One other thing to consider is that the TB will have a lot larger dev community than the charge. Then again, as long as I can root and get a good ROM I don't care that much.
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My wife and I were in the same position. We both had blackberries and were able to get new phones in June. I heard about the tiered data BS so I started looking for phones so I could lock in unlimited 4G.
After searching/reading about Verizon's 4G phones, I decided to go with the charge with the TB being a close second. What made the decision for me was the screen and the better battery life. (I just got the phone 2 days ago... wife gets hers today)
What I like about the Charge:
Screen is the best I have seen. Really looks great.
Battery life is reasonable
What I don't like:
Cheap plastic construction. (Although I will be putting mine in a holster w/screen cover... so I guess light plastic is better than metal which would get covered anyway). And when I say cheap... I mean cheap. It seems like it is a very soft plastic between the bezel and the back plate. I already got a small nick in mine and I have been babying it until I get a case. Buttons feel good and screen looks great but the chassis sucks.
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I was a proud owner of DROID X and the fact that it is metal, solid and heavy, everyone who tried and held it thought it screamed high quality. Then I bought the latest TPU (google it) cover skin for the DROID X because I had every intention of dumping it once VZW came with 4G phone. With the TPU skin on, my friends' frame of mind was completely changed. Since they can't touch and feel the cold metal surface, their subsequent reaction was that the phone is way too heavy, how could you carry a brick like that in your khaki pants, you're going to kill me with that, aren't ya?, etc., etc. It was comical. Fast forward 11 months, they're touching and feeling my Droid Charge that's also covered with TPU skin. Their first reaction was, "wow what a screen. This thing fits so nicely in the hand and soooo light, and they can fit all that power in a small and extremely light package, and still have similar sized, 4.3" screen as your old Droid X" (paraphrased). I showed them the two phones, side by side, in their TPU skins with the same "Verizon red" color. FYI, the TPU skin has a semi rigid, smooth and shinny skin. It hides the Droid Charge's thin plastic (spelled light) body and gives it a rigid feel to it, not unlike the similarly skinned DROID X. My 2c.
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Regardless, if we accept that as true, which most people do at this point, we still don't know what they'll count as a change or not. People who bought smartphones off ebay but never got a smartphone when renewing their contract likely won't be eligible, since they aren't technically smartphone customers in VZW's system. We also don't know if people switching to or from Blackberries and iPhones will be counted as having the same plan as an Android device. And the big question is whether someone with an unlimited 3g plan can get a 4g device and keep that unlimited plan. There doesn't seem to be any difference between the plans, but there definitely is, and they could definitely force you to switch to tiered if upgrading to an LTE phone. They haven't said this will be the case, but there hasn't been any info to suggest it won't be.
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Exactly. First of all, I have absolutely ZERO trust in anything that Verizon says... and less than zero trust in anything their reps say. My wife and I had 3G unlimited plans for $30 (Blackberry). Personally, I would have waited until the newer phones came out in a couple of months before switching... but at this point all we have is a "promise" (do we even have that really?) that we could get grandfathered in. I am guessing that the new iPhone 5 will have 4G and they will want to get people off the unlimited plans because netflix and the like are going to absolutely hammer their bandwidth otherwise.
In short, my unlimited plan MAY have carried over... but there is nothing in writing saying that it will. With a new contract, I am safe and can cancel if they change my terms after-the-fact. I wouldn't be surprised if on July 7th they issue a clarification on the issue after it is too late.

The cell phone trade game

I feel bad about opening up another thread and I apologize if this is the wrong board for this already, but you guys are without a doubt the most knowledgeable people on phones I've ever read/talked to so I need your advice...
My starting point: Samsung Exhibit 4G (mint condition)
My goal: MT4GS (found a seller willing to give me one for $230)
I'm about to pull the trigger on a phone swap for a MT4G. I also have to throw in $25. Is that a good deal? I feel like it is because then I can sell that MT4G for like $200 then just pay for the rest.
I was just looking in ebay and i saw a mytouch 4g slide for 170
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Every time I try to get one on Ebay, I feel like I'm getting bamboozled! I've bid on so many auctions in the past few days, to no success. I almost won one for 175, then the seller cancelled the entire thing.
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Every time I try to get one on Ebay, I feel like I'm getting bamboozled! I've bid on so many auctions in the past few days, to no success. I almost won one for 175, then the seller cancelled the entire thing.
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Tht sucks
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4g slide in good condition on craigslist is in the 275-300 range.
Scratch and dent beat up phones get 100-200 generally.
I've been trying to find a good silver one for a while now, and if I wanted something abused I could get one in a snap. Finding one that's actually been taken care of and will last me a while instead of crapping out immediately takes more $
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4g slide in good condition on craigslist is in the 275-300 range.
Scratch and dent beat up phones get 100-200 generally.
I've been trying to find a good silver one for a while now, and if I wanted something abused I could get one in a snap. Finding one that's actually been taken care of and will last me a while instead of crapping out immediately takes more $
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Exactly. I'm picking one up for $150 tomorrow, hopefully in good enough condition. The guy is a military man so he says he takes care of his stuff, but we'll see. I'm a stickler for cosmetic issues, as I firmly believe it points to other potential hardware faults on the phone. If you drop it a lot, chances are it's not going to function up to snuff. I'm careful to the point where someone might consider it OCD, but whatever because I can sell my phones back as mint condition later on.
I also watch these on eBay. You really don't see many used ones that are cosmetically in great shape. That silver bezel, especially, seems to attract a lot of nicks.
FWIW, YMMV, ....
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I also watch these on eBay. You really don't see many used ones that are cosmetically in great shape. That silver bezel, especially, seems to attract a lot of nicks.
FWIW, YMMV, ....
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That silver bezel, and the phone in and of itself, seems to dent easier than playdough! Not the screen, mind you, but everything else. I actually found a really, really good deal on a mint condition LG G2x ($170). What would you say about getting that? I mean it doesn't have the keyboard, but it has a pretty large screen that may work. Not to mention an 8MP camera, 1Ghz dual-core processor. The downsides are less ppi and less ram, and obviously the keyboard. I don't know if I'd be taking a step back or not...
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That silver bezel, and the phone in and of itself, seems to dent easier than playdough! Not the screen, mind you, but everything else. I actually found a really, really good deal on a mint condition LG G2x ($170). What would you say about getting that? I mean it doesn't have the keyboard, but it has a pretty large screen that may work. Not to mention an 8MP camera, 1Ghz dual-core processor. The downsides are less ppi and less ram, and obviously the keyboard. I don't know if I'd be taking a step back or not...
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Not too mention that it seems everyone who owns one hates it... something to think about.
monkor said:
Every time I try to get one on Ebay, I feel like I'm getting bamboozled! I've bid on so many auctions in the past few days, to no success. I almost won one for 175, then the seller cancelled the entire thing.
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Lol, I know what ya mean around november when I was trying to get my phone I won a brand new in box mt4gs for 275. Then AFTER I won and paid he canceled without my concent and I had my money in paypal limbo for 2 weeks. And he had the nerve to repost the item for 350.
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Someone stood me up for a mt4gs today, I found a 200 dollar sensation bnib from a cop who got a work phone, picked it up today. I surprisingly like it during the experimental phase...may not when need it for actual work
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[Q] Exchange One-S for galaxy S 3?

I specifically asked the salesman at TMobile about the GS3 because if it was to come out soon, I would wait for it. he said it would not be until fall or winter. I believed him and opted to not wait and got the One-S for my upgrade/2 yr renewal. That was 2 weeks ago. I had an issue with the phone (lock screen would not unlock, Maps was all pixelated, random apps not working..) and got a replacement. I am still not completely satisfied with the phone (maybe I was just used to my previous phone, GalaxyS, but some apps I use on a regular basis do not work the same on the One-S) and now I hear that the GS3 is hitting TMobile in a few weeks. Is there any chance I can call and complain about the issues with my One-S and get the GS3 to replace it when it comes out? I loved my Galaxy S and opted for the One-S instead of the GS2 due to it having ICS, but really want to go o the GS3 if it will be available in a few weeks. Is TMobile going to tell me to screw myself?
the S3 is in stores everywhere from tomorrow here in Italy and Austria. (29.05.12).
Wow... tl;dr
If like phone, keep phone.
If not like phone, don't.
Same here I would love to know this.
Return in the first 14 days, and can't remember if that charges a restocking fee. 30 days for exchange and whatnots. Gs3 coming on June 20 and the day you bought the phone counts as day 1.
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When you exchange for a different phone its 50 bucks restocking fee
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I have not seen anything that proves the SG3 will come to the U.S. before the fall. There are only rumors that it will come in the next few weeks. It still has yet to be approved by the feds... so I'll say the Aug/Sept time frame is reasonable.
As the other members have stated you do have a 14 day return policy (if purchased at a corp T-Mobile location) with a $50 restocking fee. It is highly unlikely that if you are out of your return period that they will replace it with a SG3. I would sell the One if you really want the SG3 after I get an unlock code for it, and pay full retail for the SG3, or I'd add a line and get the SG3 at a discount, toss the line to a family member make a lil profit off of it, or simply pay the 200 etf and say 199.99 off the cost of full retail for the device.
Just my 2 cents.
Noone's mentioned this yet, but I'd be wondering why anyone with a One S would be wanting to switch to the behemoth that is the SGS3.
One of the greatest selling points of this phone besides its speed is its size. It's 4.3 inches, and is PERFECT at this smaller size. OP -- if you get an SGS3, remember that youre getting yourself into a device that has a 4.8 inch screen, and STILL has capacitive buttons. It'll be an absolute giant. One-handed operation will not be possible for most.
Just food for thought....
After having this phoen for a while there is no other phone I would trade this for I had the gs2 and the 4.65 in screen was to big for me and I have big hands. And development for this phone is really starting to boom
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I had the same concern and asked but like mentioned above they will charge you for the restocking fee if your over the standard trial period, new customers is 14 days and customers over 5 years get 20 day which is cheap if you ask me if you've been there over that you should get 30 at least.
I'm torn myself and long story short a friend got the One S and now he's looking at ATT for the Note the only way this was going to work was buying in with the Buy-1-Get-1 free deal and selling one to get the money to get the SGS3 when it gets here.
I also put a few (the wife has no clue) bucks aside just in case because that's going to be one hell of a rainy day in the US when it does arrive.
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After having this phoen for a while there is no other phone I would trade this for I had the gs2 and the 4.65 in screen was to big for me and I have big hands. And development for this phone is really starting to boom
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Im pushing for the S3... I love the One S but........
With my provider, Vodafone UK, I cannot get a strong signal in any HTC phone, I had this exact issue with my last phone, The Sensation, I sent it for repair but they couldnt find a fault, I kicked up a fuss and they offered to give me the One S free of charge.
However i have the same issue with this phone, Ive sent that for repair too, Its due back tomorrow so i will see what they say in the notes.
If they find no fault im left with this device that has weak signal, some places it has 0 signal... I refuse to keep it for the next 13.5 months so im gonna push for an S3, Ive never had signal issues with any other phone other than HTC, I know its not HTC at fault either as this is a common issue with Vodafone & HTC devices, I dont know how this is possible but it is..
So it looks like the only other phone, Thats equal / better than the One S is the S3.. So lets see how things go.
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Im pushing for the S3... I love the One S but........
With my provider, Vodafone UK, I cannot get a strong signal in any HTC phone, I had this exact issue with my last phone, The Sensation, I sent it for repair but they couldnt find a fault, I kicked up a fuss and they offered to give me the One S free of charge.
However i have the same issue with this phone, Ive sent that for repair too, Its due back tomorrow so i will see what they say in the notes.
If they find no fault im left with this device that has weak signal, some places it has 0 signal... I refuse to keep it for the next 13.5 months so im gonna push for an S3, Ive never had signal issues with any other phone other than HTC, I know its not HTC at fault either as this is a common issue with Vodafone & HTC devices, I dont know how this is possible but it is..
So it looks like the only other phone, Thats equal / better than the One S is the S3.. So lets see how things go.
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Totally hear you. I had this issue on my Galaxy S 2. I actually barely got a discount on my One S because the 3 months I owned the GS2 it simply could not get a decent signal, even compared to my Vibrant. I almost paid the $200 fee and switched carries as it was simply unbareable. Of course my wife's GS2 not as bad as my GS2 but wasn't close to the One S but it just sucks when a phone has awesome specs but fails to do the most important thing well.
If the GS3 build design is anything like the cheap feeling GS2 and GS1 for that matter... count me out.
Yes ! Samsung's biggest failure is Build quality other than that i cannot complain, Except TW, but that would be gone in a flash (pun intended!)
Saying that, Every phone ive had has always had a case on, to add that extra protection, even on the HTC's ive had cases, even tho they are not needed. So i guess a case would hide the cheap plasticky feel...... If it has it of course !

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