I need some advice, and I'm a bit lost on what to do, now knowing about the upcoming Touch Pro2.
In the middle of March I'm due with AT&T to upgrade from this decripit old Nokia 6555 to a new phone - which I already selected, the AT&T FUZE/Raphael.
Question is: Do I stick with my original purchase idea and get the FUZE, or should I hold out for the Pro2? From HTC's release (sometime in Q2 09), how long should I expect to wait before this ends up on, say, AT&T's shelves?
Well it's always a game... get the newest and best now or wait for the next best thing. Look at the Touch pro and Touch HD for an example. No matter what as soon as you pick and buy something theres something new right around the corner. Personally I don't think the TP2 is that big of an update and I'm just gonna stick with my Fuze for the time being and use all the software people rip from the TP2
get the fuze...who knows when at&t will have the tp2. U can always try to upgrade to it later.
Honestly, I'm not a fan of the fact that the Touch Pro 2 is significantly bigger. It's the same size as an iPhone now, but a bit thicker. I like the form-factor of the original Touch Pro.
The Fuze 2 (Touch Pro 2) is set for launch around June or July for AT&T.
And it will bear the name Fuze just like the last Touch Pro. But as with anything this could change between now and then.
You know, I was so psyched for the Touch Pro.
Until I held it. For me, the screen is very small. I have had a Dash for the last couple of years, (honestly, if it wasn't for XDA, I would have trashed it long ago) and wanted something very different in my next WinMo device.
I like the TP2, for me, that will be my next device. My Dash is tired though, so I am going to buy a unlocked Tilt (can get one on Craigslist for cheap) until the TP2 comes out.
Just my preference, I know the 1ghz processors are coming out this year as well, but there will always be something new coming out around the corner.
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my wizard is getting old and slow so I thought yesterday when I saw new htc P6500 and touch diamond that I need newer phone. should I wait and get diamond or just get cruiser now? what about other htc phones? no real need for keyboard since i got bluetooth one.
cruiser seems nice and low priced. gimme ideas and thoughts about those phones and maybe other.
diamond dont have a sdslot så you cant expand it's 4GB or use sdio devices
Between those two? the diamond obviously, if it's not too expensive for your needs. It's more advanced than the cruise, and has a much better UI that won't show its age as soon as old TouchFlo will (yes I know it's only one year old, this is a crazy world).
But my real advice is keep waiting. There are more new htc devices coming soon, and some from other brands too. If you don't need to change now, hold on and you'll have more new stuff to choose from.
Cheers!
I've got the LG KS20 coming tomorrow - that's just replaced my MDA Vario that 1) I was totally bored of and 2) I bricked anyway
I wanted something without a keyboard, unlocked, WM 6 out of the box and this one fitted the bill for me. Looking forward to a change.
Love the look of the HTC Diamond it looks stunning, but the price won't be, especially in the UK - it's currently listed for £480 without a contract and £200 on the contract I'm on.
There's always going to be something newer, bigger, better round the corner, so I always look at what my requirements are and then find a device that fits it that doesn't cost too much! Early adopters always pay the price and all that.
it sounds like the touch pro (raphael) is coming to at&t as the fuze. that's great and all, with the slick full vga screen etc... but why is the diamond not going to be offered?
when most people see our ppc phones, they think brick. yes the keyboard is nice, but i can type pretty dang fast with the on screen keyboards, and look at the raphael side by side with the kaiser, it's still huge!
the diamond is pocketable, a good business device, and the type of design that needs to continue in order to stop everyone from getting an iphone!
the xperia is a step in the right direction with the keyboard, but i truly can't understand how adding a keyboard to a diamond almost triples the size!
any thoughts?
AT&T picks and chooses what it offers. Since it has that exclusive agreement with Apple why would it offer a "rip off" (Not my Term, AT&T's Term) iPhone?
I will be looking out the next couple months for an actual release date. I wonder what the will offer it for? I am thinking $600-$700 compared to everyone else. I would love to upgrade from my Tilt for Diamond Pro. I have 2 lines eligible for upgrade next month. Kevin
The Pro is just the next evolution from the Tilt, its a no brainer for ATT to pick this up. They have never had a "Touch" Winmo phone either as the phones with keyboards are easier to market as "business class" devices. Thats my guess as to why they didn't pick up the Diamond. I cant wait for the Pro personally. My iPhone can only hold my attention for so long before I have to get another WM device.
vwauditech said:
I will be looking out the next couple months for an actual release date. I wonder what the will offer it for? I am thinking $600-$700 compared to everyone else. I would love to upgrade from my Tilt for Diamond Pro. I have 2 lines eligible for upgrade next month. Kevin
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fyi...keep an eye on this thread for the fuze latest & greatest news
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=417844
I've been hearing about the Fuze for a few days now, it seems it will be out soon, hopefully. Then maybe Verizon will eventually take some initiative to get better devices, and put out some updates for crying out loud! I sometimes want to punch the verizon guy in the face!
According to the rumors the Samsung Mirage (Omnia) or HTC Fuze (Touch Pro) will be coming to at&t within two days of each other. I fell into the iPhone 3G hype and ditched my Tilt for the iPhone. I have seen the error of my ways and want to come back to Winmo.
While the iPhone has its drawbacks, I have fallen in love with the large screen of the iPhone (and have missed the large screen from leaving the Blue Angel for the Apache and then the Tilt) Additionally I really like most of the specs of the Mirage (Omnia) over the Fuze (Touch Pro). However I love the support and tweaking available from the awesome chefs here at xda developers, and would miss it tremendously.
So if you currently had an iPhone, and were going to buy a new Winmo device from at&t at the end of October, which would it be? Mirage or Fuze
I'm not so sure I could go back to a device without a keyboard... If I did, it'd be the Touch HD, not the Omnia.
Thundarr The Barbarian said:
I'm not so sure I could go back to a device without a keyboard... If I did, it'd be the Touch HD, not the Omnia.
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I am somewhat of a phone freak so I will get the Fuze or Mirage at the end of October and then switch to the HD when it has at&t 3g capability (if ever)
Eh, I love phones too but I don't think I could buy a phone just to have it for a few months and sell it... I'd lose my upgrade, extend my contract for 2 years... For me that's a big issue, I'm on a family plan with my mom right now and she wants me off!
I've already played with the Fuze for close to a month and made money off of it, so I'll have no problem waiting for the Touch HD... Hopefully.
Hi,
I had the same isue as you but then with the original products.
It actualy is very easy to decide. Both products are very different. So just make a list of your Need to have, nice to haves.
I have bought the touch pro because the Omnia doesn't have a standerd usb and the camera isn't that important for me. btw, I really like the optical mouse on the Omnia.
I also used http://www.infinitube.net/ to watch reviews (and bashings) of the Omnia, Xperia and the Touch Pro.
Regards,
AJ
Hi all,
Currently I am using the Tilt and have been since it came out. I have always had problems with it and the latest is that I can not close the keyboard without losing service. I would really like to upgrade to something nicer even though the Tilt does meet most of my needs. That kinda makes me feel bad for wanting a new phone but I have had this one for a while soo....
Also my sister needs a phone as well. We were looking a lot at the Touch Pros from At&t because we are in a contract with them. But we don't really want to use our upgrades because we don't want to renew our contract at the moment. I am not sure what my family is doing regarding to our phone situation in the future. Also I don't like that the Touch Pro still has the same size screen as the Tilt. But we would upgrade the contract if it is worth it I guess.
I would really like to have a phone with a larger screen. I have a Nokia 770 which is great but I don't carry it all the time. This led me to look at the Nokia 5800...it has a really nice large screen which would be great for web browsing, which is what I do a lot. It will also let me type landscape which I like as well. But I would miss the all the programs from windows mobile. Especially Skyfire.
I also looked at the iphone and I love the screen for it, it is very large and I like how smooth everything is. But the new update doesn't come out for a few months. And by that time, the Touch Pro 2 and Nokia 97 will be coming out. Those are two other options which would require me to wait.
A friend of mine just got the Samsung Omnia and it has a larger screen than the Tilt and runs windows mobile. Is that a good choice for me? It has a larger screen than the Tilt but not as large as the iphone/5800/97/touch pro 2..so it would be an upgrade but not the largest. I just want a screen that would make internet browsing a pleasure and I don't want to buy a phone now and then wish I would have waited a few more months. I just am kinda tired of caring this huge phone around now with its tiny little screen.
Any suggestions on what to do? It looks like the Omnia is still expensive and costs about the same as the 97 and touch pro 2 would if they are picked up by a carrier. Even though the Omnia is older..or should I just wait? Or I could buy the phone now and sell it for some money back if I end up drooling over the phones coming out soon. Basically web browsing and texting are my main concerns. The iphone doesn't do flash like Skyfire does so that rules it out till it can handle it..
Thanks!!
Edit: Not even sure if the Omnia can be used on at&t. Looking into that now.
sounds like you want a touch hd.
Why don't you wait longer
Like me,
I am out of contract for the first time since my first handset in 1993 and have decided to wait. until the summer (if I can) as there will be even more choice.
I've read Touch Pro 2 for Verizon is supposed to be released in May09.
So another Month and half I must wait to get my new phone!!
Not sure if verizon will carry the diamond2, but that phone is also suppose to hit the U.S. the same time!!
Still in love with my Touchpro, but as with all tech, I can watch it slow down with newer builds of 6.5. Its aging and I'm thinking of upgrading soon, but I want a phone I know the community is going to support the way we do with the TP.
The HTC Leo looks so sexy....but I'm having a lot of dreams about Android as well.
For me, I cant live without hardware keyboard and GPS, so TP2 is my next choice. If only Leo has hardware keyboard..hmmmm
I'll probably wait for the 3rd incarnation of the tP (TP3). I want that snapdragon processor!!!
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Still in love with my Touchpro, but as with all tech, I can watch it slow down with newer builds of 6.5.
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I don't understand this. Touch Pro has the same processor and RAM as TP2, TD2, HD etc. In other words, it's the same phone, only resolution is different. Why do you think that for example TP2 is quicker? All specs are the same.
I'll be using a phone that doesn't exist now, but it will totally kick ass and iphone users will be really jealous.
Hate the hardware keyboard, extra bulk for me so....
AT&T Pure (TD2) enroute today!
One of the phones with the snapdragon or Tegra(?) chips.
I'm caught between the AT&T Pure (aka Topaz), cuz it is just so fine in the hand and has a beautiful screen and 5mp camera; the TP2 because of the keyboard; or wait for the HD2, cuz it's a capacitive screen, has a screaming processor, and 3.5mm earphone. It looks awesome!
I only find my Touch Pro faster with the latest WM6.5 builds. I initially wanted to purchase Diamond 2, so I went to the ATT store and checked it out.
IT does have a larger screen but the width of the screen is exactly the same as Fuze, so it doesn't improved the software keyboard since the area it takes up is exactly the same width wise.
And overall the Pure feels very much plasticy, and too light for my likings.
And the WM6.5 on Diamond 2 isn't even close to what the cooks have done for the Touch Pro, so I walked away empty handed.
Maybe I'll go back to the store when TP2 arrives, but I still think TP is a solid phone, I even like to use it more than my iphone 3g. (well my gf doesn't want to use the fuze, so that's the only choice I got =/
I will wait for the HD2
My next one is going to be HD2! Look at the video. It's really cool.
http://pocketnow.com/tech-news/htc-hd2-caught-on-video
I have another tab open right now, with an Acer F1 sitting in the basket for £338 - over £200 cheaper than the HD2's pre-order price from the same UK online retailer!
The only thing stopping me from pressing the 'checkout now' button is the lack of TouchFlo 3D and my uncertainty over whether anyone will develop it in the way I know the good folks here will look after the HD2. I'm so torn!!!!
Don't...know...what....to....do!
im just gona bide my time and w8 because just when i bought my tilt they came out with the fuze about 2 months L8r.... but i do have the fuze now so i will just w8 til my contract is up and see what is out then.... i love my fuze and i think its the best phone that they offer @ at&t prior to the release of the new tilt 2 and pure
I feel the same. Acer F1 looks great on specs, but the HD2 has both WM 6.5 and Touch flo.
Im going with the HD2, since theres always upgrades on XDA and WM 7.0 will show its furry little face in the Spring lol
whatever the next TP3 is - gotta have snapdragon/tegra, HD kb.
have been thinking about omnia2 qwerty...
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I'll probably wait for the 3rd incarnation of the tP (TP3). I want that snapdragon processor!!!
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+1 on this one. Why purchase an expensive device just for the larger screen with same specs. My only concern is that ATT may not offer it due to the direct competition to the iPhone (in regards of the HD2 at least). Though double dipping money with iPhone and WinMobile based device could just kill the last thought...
I'll wait for the 1 GHz device without any doubt.
So what are the options for someone on AT&T?
I want a new phone because my TP is falling apart. The keyboard doesn't respond well, some of the keys barely work, etc etc.
The TP2 simply isn't even an upgrade. It is amazing they are even calling it an "upgrade."
I've seen soooo many reviews(Engadget,Gizmodo) bashing WM 6.5. I haven't used Android or the iPhone, but these reviews must mean WM sucks compared to Android/et al.
So I'm thinking of getting an Android phone, or would love to try a WebOS phone, etc.
Are there any phones from Europe or other carriers that I might want to look for? Something that is an actual upgrade from the TP? Thanks guys!
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Touch HD aka Blackstone from down under perhaps (Telstra enabled for frequency match). But, again, same specs larger screen. Get a replacement or at least check how much it is and hold on a few more months until ATT or another US carrier announces snapdragon based phones. I could likely happen that they'll wait for MS to pair it with a WinMo 7 release (just a guess).
I messed around with a Touch Pro 2 the other day and I really liked it, but as has been pointed out, with the same chipset I'm not sure it's really worth the outlay, especially for someone who buys their handsets sim free. And they took away the handy 'torch' from the back. Cads.
Has anyone been to Qualcomm's website and seen the next Snapdragon with 1.5 Ghz cpu? Eeeek!
The trouble with waiting for the Touch Pro 3 is it's bound to be only 3mm thick, but the size of a coffee table ; )
If I can get over my current love of the Acer S200/F1 I may try and play with an Omnia Pro and see what that's like....
I just got my Fuze for my Bday a couple months back knowing that the Tilt 2 was coming. I still really like my Fuze, but I really like the Tilt 2, but I'd never get it because of the now mandatory data plans, which I'm thankful for getting my Fuze early enough. If I had my choice I'd jump ship on the next 2 generations after the Tilt 2 on AT&T, but those data plans are too expensive for me so I'll probably have to jump off my first WinMo device and go to Nokia for unlocked phones, unless HTC or someone starts selling unlocked WinMo/Android phones.Which I really hope someone starts doing, I'd really like to stick to WinMo.