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time to update wizard? diamond, cruise?

my wizard is getting old and slow so I thought yesterday when I saw new htc P6500 and touch diamond that I need newer phone. should I wait and get diamond or just get cruiser now? what about other htc phones? no real need for keyboard since i got bluetooth one.
cruiser seems nice and low priced. gimme ideas and thoughts about those phones and maybe other.

diamond dont have a sdslot så you cant expand it's 4GB or use sdio devices

Between those two? the diamond obviously, if it's not too expensive for your needs. It's more advanced than the cruise, and has a much better UI that won't show its age as soon as old TouchFlo will (yes I know it's only one year old, this is a crazy world).
But my real advice is keep waiting. There are more new htc devices coming soon, and some from other brands too. If you don't need to change now, hold on and you'll have more new stuff to choose from.
Cheers!

I've got the LG KS20 coming tomorrow - that's just replaced my MDA Vario that 1) I was totally bored of and 2) I bricked anyway
I wanted something without a keyboard, unlocked, WM 6 out of the box and this one fitted the bill for me. Looking forward to a change.
Love the look of the HTC Diamond it looks stunning, but the price won't be, especially in the UK - it's currently listed for £480 without a contract and £200 on the contract I'm on.
There's always going to be something newer, bigger, better round the corner, so I always look at what my requirements are and then find a device that fits it that doesn't cost too much! Early adopters always pay the price and all that.

From an 8125 to a TyTN, to an iPhone, and BACK!! Question!

Hi guys!
Well, after suffering for a few years with the pains of a Windows-based phone (I haven't used WM6.1, yet. Only 6), I bought an iPhone yesterday.
And you know what?
It reallllly sucks, as compared to a Windows Mobile device.
Yes, the user interface is gorgeous and all, but oh my, I miss so many of my HTC's features, it's not even funny!
So, the iPhone is on Craigslist now!
Now, here is a question for you, if I may............
As a big fan of the 8125, and a bigger fan of the 8525...
...what would you say is the new state-of-the-art device now for me?
Is the 8925/TyTn II the way to go?
That was the "in" device about 6 months ago, last time I checked.
Perhaps I am a bit behind the times.
I always trust fellow XDA Windows Mobile device users for their input...
...so, before I start reading all the various websites out there...
I am asking you guys for some quick pointers in the right direction.
BOY this iPhone is a TOY, next to my 8525!!!!
Thanks!!!
M

I went from a tytn to a motorola q9, and I was missing so many PPC things.... so I got a Tytn II and I used it for about 3 months, its a great phone, but I really liked the thinnes of the moto, so I got the diamond and I am really happy with it so far... IMHO the qwerty keyboard on the diamond is much better than the iphone since you have to press more(you can travel between keys without lifting your finger)

Interesting.
I realllly think that a keyboard is important to me.
Put a VGA screen.. THAT is something interesting to me.
The 8925 (I don't think) has a VGA screen. Too bad.
With a slide out keyboard... is there anything more advanced than the 8925??

The Touch Pro, which is waiting for release any day now. I feel that winmo7 is just months away to maybe 1/2 a year away, and that it will prob. require new hardware, can you deal with your 8525 until then?

The Touch Pro is coming very soon (next few months)
http://wmpoweruser.com/?tag=htc-touch-pro
Surur

yeah, the touch pro will be the way to go...the 8525 can handle things till then!!!

WOW!
VERY nice!
That Touch Pro is gonna cost a pretty penny, isn't it?
Keyboard... VGA screen... The works!
Yup, I think that will be my next PPC.
The 8525 can wait until then. I'm just a bit bored.
I am eager to install 6.1, but it's been so long since I did the firmware and a full re-install, that it's going to take me a full day to start re-reading the wikis, finding the best ROM, and so forth.
It's just a shame to do this, when I know a new one is around the corner.
But it does look like the Touch Pro is the one to get!
So, I will hang on for now!
UNLESS the 8925's are really cheap!
Thanks guys!

Do I FUZE or do I go?

I need some advice, and I'm a bit lost on what to do, now knowing about the upcoming Touch Pro2.
In the middle of March I'm due with AT&T to upgrade from this decripit old Nokia 6555 to a new phone - which I already selected, the AT&T FUZE/Raphael.
Question is: Do I stick with my original purchase idea and get the FUZE, or should I hold out for the Pro2? From HTC's release (sometime in Q2 09), how long should I expect to wait before this ends up on, say, AT&T's shelves?

Well it's always a game... get the newest and best now or wait for the next best thing. Look at the Touch pro and Touch HD for an example. No matter what as soon as you pick and buy something theres something new right around the corner. Personally I don't think the TP2 is that big of an update and I'm just gonna stick with my Fuze for the time being and use all the software people rip from the TP2

get the fuze...who knows when at&t will have the tp2. U can always try to upgrade to it later.

Honestly, I'm not a fan of the fact that the Touch Pro 2 is significantly bigger. It's the same size as an iPhone now, but a bit thicker. I like the form-factor of the original Touch Pro.

The Fuze 2 (Touch Pro 2) is set for launch around June or July for AT&T.
And it will bear the name Fuze just like the last Touch Pro. But as with anything this could change between now and then.

You know, I was so psyched for the Touch Pro.
Until I held it. For me, the screen is very small. I have had a Dash for the last couple of years, (honestly, if it wasn't for XDA, I would have trashed it long ago) and wanted something very different in my next WinMo device.
I like the TP2, for me, that will be my next device. My Dash is tired though, so I am going to buy a unlocked Tilt (can get one on Craigslist for cheap) until the TP2 comes out.
Just my preference, I know the 1ghz processors are coming out this year as well, but there will always be something new coming out around the corner.

Leaving the Raphael for a Palm Pre?

So how many of you lucky American's are upgrading to a Palm Pre this weekend?
I'm in Australia so have to wait, unfortunately Can wait to get my hands on one of these Palm Pre's though. I love my Raphael and Windows Mobile, but the Palm Pre and WebOS is just awesome! Sorry MS Mobile, but too little too late - even with v6.5 (and the terrific ROM chef's here on xda!!)

Pre
I played with a Pre and I'm going to wait for the TP2 to hit the US, the keys are to small for me to type effectively on, its a slick UI but for functionality its just not there yet.

I dont like Palm. Sticking with my Fuze.

i think the palm pre is just a bit of a knockoff of the touchpro 2 interface .
basically the same thing slightly different with a different name.
the keyboard is rather small [i definately agree with you aaronsmckee]
and 6.5 is getting better about every 5 hours or so ( you should watch the forums its really really really fun lol ) i would stick with the raphael or tp2 over the palm pre .

I wish I could. I'm even on Sprint and only a few months from my upgrade. But I don't want to go to the more expensive plan

The push Gmail is a big deal to me, the Pre is the only device that natively supports it.
But alas, I have a new AT&T 2 year contract.

DaveLinger said:
The push Gmail is a big deal to me, the Pre is the only device that natively supports it.
But alas, I have a new AT&T 2 year contract.
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just use a third party for your push gmail, like mobipush.com

Definitely not leaving the TP for the Pre....especially with all the wonderful chefs here...

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Definitely not leaving the TP for the Pre....especially with all the wonderful chefs here...
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100% second [email protected] I'm never [email protected] HTC.

I would, honestly -- it looks like it could be fun to write code for, even with the Touch Pro's superior specs.
But the Touch Pro, thanks in large part to the great software people wrote for it, is very nice and does what I need (almost) -- plus, I just renewed my contract to get it seven months ago.

mouth said:
So how many of you lucky American's are upgrading to a Palm Pre this weekend?
I'm in Australia so have to wait, unfortunately Can wait to get my hands on one of these Palm Pre's though. I love my Raphael and Windows Mobile, but the Palm Pre and WebOS is just awesome! Sorry MS Mobile, but too little too late - even with v6.5 (and the terrific ROM chef's here on xda!!)
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Well I have already left for the Pre. I had a fuze (had ATT but switched to Sprint b/c of a much better value) but the touch pro is ridiculously priced on Sprint's network, its almost 50% higher than the pre itself, and I couldn't justify spending any more than what I did for the Pre...especially since the TP2 will be out soon. Anyway, I've had the pre for a few days now and I do miss the TP to a certain degree. The biggest thing I miss are the options that are universally provided by windows mobile. The TP in my opinion is still my favorite phone device that I've ever had, but the Pre isn't bad by any means. I just dont know what to do with all the free time I have now that I'm not able to flash custom roms anymore!

mouth said:
So how many of you lucky American's are upgrading to a Palm Pre this weekend?
I'm in Australia so have to wait, unfortunately Can wait to get my hands on one of these Palm Pre's though. I love my Raphael and Windows Mobile, but the Palm Pre and WebOS is just awesome! Sorry MS Mobile, but too little too late - even with v6.5 (and the terrific ROM chef's here on xda!!)
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Palm pre looks like a chic phone...slide down keyboard is weak...staying with my touch pro!

aren't there a bunch of hardware issues with the pre like case cracking and the screen part spinning/twisting from the keyboard slider. Also read it has horrible battery since its always downloading data.

mouth said:
So how many of you lucky American's are upgrading to a Palm Pre this weekend?
I'm in Australia so have to wait, unfortunately Can wait to get my hands on one of these Palm Pre's though. I love my Raphael and Windows Mobile, but the Palm Pre and WebOS is just awesome! Sorry MS Mobile, but too little too late - even with v6.5 (and the terrific ROM chef's here on xda!!)
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I'm interested in the Palm Pre and I'm thinking about switching, but currently, there are some serious issues that needs to be addressed:
1) Hardware - I held the Palm Pre at Best Buy and it was plain horrible. It didn't feel smooth and the QWERTY keyboard was very bad; I know that I would not be able to type effectively with that keyboard.
2) Screen and resolution - I'm really sorry, but a 3.1in screen and QVGA resolution is just not going to be good enough. The screen should be at least 3.5in and the resolution should at least be VGA (if not WVGA). I also hope that either Palm or Apple eventually moves to an AMOLED screen (but this is more of a wish than a requirement).
These are my two main gripes with the Palm Pre. It's a very good device, but it actually seems more dated than Apple's iPhone in some cases. Considering the iPhone is already outdated in a lot of ways, this is not a good thing. Meh, maybe later WebOS phone models will be superior, but at this point, I really can not switch to the Pre with those issues above.

3.1" screen and HVGA res with an all-new OS designed to take advantage of the capacitive screen is worse than a 2.8" line-doubled VGA screen that acts as QVGA?
Sound like somebody is missing the forest for the trees.

slick69 said:
3.1" screen and HVGA res with an all-new OS designed to take advantage of the capacitive screen is worse than a 2.8" line-doubled VGA screen that acts as QVGA?
Sound like somebody is missing the forest for the trees.
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Is that towards me? Next time, try pressing the 'Quote' button as I often ignore posts that doesn't have anything from my post in quote form (or at least quotation marks).
Now then, I'm sorry that I gave you the impression, but not once did I say the Pre had a worse screen/res than the Raphael. No, I don't mind if you go ahead and re-read my post to make sure. I think you may be surprised.
What I'm saying is that I'm not going to pay to upgrade to a new phone if I don't find the specs good enough. When I'm ready to buy a new phone, I'm not going to buy the Raphael a second time. I'm going to buy a phone that has a bigger screen, equal/higher res, better CPU, and just overall better specs. If that special phone happens to have WebOS on it, even better, but unfortunately, the Palm Pre is not that phone.

As the Raphael ages, What will be your next phone?

Still in love with my Touchpro, but as with all tech, I can watch it slow down with newer builds of 6.5. Its aging and I'm thinking of upgrading soon, but I want a phone I know the community is going to support the way we do with the TP.
The HTC Leo looks so sexy....but I'm having a lot of dreams about Android as well.

For me, I cant live without hardware keyboard and GPS, so TP2 is my next choice. If only Leo has hardware keyboard..hmmmm

I'll probably wait for the 3rd incarnation of the tP (TP3). I want that snapdragon processor!!!

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Still in love with my Touchpro, but as with all tech, I can watch it slow down with newer builds of 6.5.
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I don't understand this. Touch Pro has the same processor and RAM as TP2, TD2, HD etc. In other words, it's the same phone, only resolution is different. Why do you think that for example TP2 is quicker? All specs are the same.

I'll be using a phone that doesn't exist now, but it will totally kick ass and iphone users will be really jealous.

Hate the hardware keyboard, extra bulk for me so....
AT&T Pure (TD2) enroute today!

One of the phones with the snapdragon or Tegra(?) chips.

I'm caught between the AT&T Pure (aka Topaz), cuz it is just so fine in the hand and has a beautiful screen and 5mp camera; the TP2 because of the keyboard; or wait for the HD2, cuz it's a capacitive screen, has a screaming processor, and 3.5mm earphone. It looks awesome!

I only find my Touch Pro faster with the latest WM6.5 builds. I initially wanted to purchase Diamond 2, so I went to the ATT store and checked it out.
IT does have a larger screen but the width of the screen is exactly the same as Fuze, so it doesn't improved the software keyboard since the area it takes up is exactly the same width wise.
And overall the Pure feels very much plasticy, and too light for my likings.
And the WM6.5 on Diamond 2 isn't even close to what the cooks have done for the Touch Pro, so I walked away empty handed.
Maybe I'll go back to the store when TP2 arrives, but I still think TP is a solid phone, I even like to use it more than my iphone 3g. (well my gf doesn't want to use the fuze, so that's the only choice I got =/

I will wait for the HD2
My next one is going to be HD2! Look at the video. It's really cool.
http://pocketnow.com/tech-news/htc-hd2-caught-on-video

I have another tab open right now, with an Acer F1 sitting in the basket for £338 - over £200 cheaper than the HD2's pre-order price from the same UK online retailer!
The only thing stopping me from pressing the 'checkout now' button is the lack of TouchFlo 3D and my uncertainty over whether anyone will develop it in the way I know the good folks here will look after the HD2. I'm so torn!!!!
Don't...know...what....to....do!

im just gona bide my time and w8 because just when i bought my tilt they came out with the fuze about 2 months L8r.... but i do have the fuze now so i will just w8 til my contract is up and see what is out then.... i love my fuze and i think its the best phone that they offer @ at&t prior to the release of the new tilt 2 and pure

I feel the same. Acer F1 looks great on specs, but the HD2 has both WM 6.5 and Touch flo.
Im going with the HD2, since theres always upgrades on XDA and WM 7.0 will show its furry little face in the Spring lol

whatever the next TP3 is - gotta have snapdragon/tegra, HD kb.

have been thinking about omnia2 qwerty...

mputtr said:
I'll probably wait for the 3rd incarnation of the tP (TP3). I want that snapdragon processor!!!
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+1 on this one. Why purchase an expensive device just for the larger screen with same specs. My only concern is that ATT may not offer it due to the direct competition to the iPhone (in regards of the HD2 at least). Though double dipping money with iPhone and WinMobile based device could just kill the last thought...
I'll wait for the 1 GHz device without any doubt.

So what are the options for someone on AT&T?
I want a new phone because my TP is falling apart. The keyboard doesn't respond well, some of the keys barely work, etc etc.
The TP2 simply isn't even an upgrade. It is amazing they are even calling it an "upgrade."
I've seen soooo many reviews(Engadget,Gizmodo) bashing WM 6.5. I haven't used Android or the iPhone, but these reviews must mean WM sucks compared to Android/et al.
So I'm thinking of getting an Android phone, or would love to try a WebOS phone, etc.
Are there any phones from Europe or other carriers that I might want to look for? Something that is an actual upgrade from the TP? Thanks guys!

@schwalbach
Touch HD aka Blackstone from down under perhaps (Telstra enabled for frequency match). But, again, same specs larger screen. Get a replacement or at least check how much it is and hold on a few more months until ATT or another US carrier announces snapdragon based phones. I could likely happen that they'll wait for MS to pair it with a WinMo 7 release (just a guess).

I messed around with a Touch Pro 2 the other day and I really liked it, but as has been pointed out, with the same chipset I'm not sure it's really worth the outlay, especially for someone who buys their handsets sim free. And they took away the handy 'torch' from the back. Cads.
Has anyone been to Qualcomm's website and seen the next Snapdragon with 1.5 Ghz cpu? Eeeek!
The trouble with waiting for the Touch Pro 3 is it's bound to be only 3mm thick, but the size of a coffee table ; )
If I can get over my current love of the Acer S200/F1 I may try and play with an Omnia Pro and see what that's like....

I just got my Fuze for my Bday a couple months back knowing that the Tilt 2 was coming. I still really like my Fuze, but I really like the Tilt 2, but I'd never get it because of the now mandatory data plans, which I'm thankful for getting my Fuze early enough. If I had my choice I'd jump ship on the next 2 generations after the Tilt 2 on AT&T, but those data plans are too expensive for me so I'll probably have to jump off my first WinMo device and go to Nokia for unlocked phones, unless HTC or someone starts selling unlocked WinMo/Android phones.Which I really hope someone starts doing, I'd really like to stick to WinMo.