I'm wondering if the RDS data output of the FM receiver can be redirected to a virtual COM port to be used as a TMC receiver with GPS programs like destinator 7.
Strange mate!
even if it was possible then the reviewer said that it only worked when the headset was connected guess it act the role of antenna would be bothersome to have the wiredheadset hanging while using it as gps
Hi Rudegar, great to see the red/white flag ;-)
Headset vs. FM antenna can be handled software wise.. eg. on Eten G500
As soon as headset is plugged a popup asks to redirect sound to ext. speaker for navigation purpose.
As for the TMC / FM radio in HTC products.. (Polaris, Artemis etc.).. Haven't seen a solution yet, RDS is supported in both products, so if TMC mesages runs on the default RDS stream it should be technical possible.
Merry X-mas and Happy Newyear (go' bag(h)jul)
Rudegar said:
even if it was possible then the reviewer said that it only worked when the headset was connected guess it act the role of antenna would be bothersome to have the wiredheadset hanging while using it as gps
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I don't think that this could be a problem: I'm thinking on connecting the device in my car with a "Y" connector, one of the outputs to the sound system (car radio) and other to a power system. It is easy to connect the car antenna with a capacitor to the sound line.
Then the Device will be connected to a external headeset, with good antenna capacity, and at the same time to the car power.
cptn_dk said:
Hi Rudegar, great to see the red/white flag ;-)
Headset vs. FM antenna can be handled software wise.. eg. on Eten G500
As soon as headset is plugged a popup asks to redirect sound to ext. speaker for navigation purpose.
As for the TMC / FM radio in HTC products.. (Polaris, Artemis etc.).. Haven't seen a solution yet, RDS is supported in both products, so if TMC mesages runs on the default RDS stream it should be technical possible.
Merry X-mas and Happy Newyear (go' bag(h)jul)
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Yes, TMC is only a filtered data stream of the RDS network. Obviously it will be needed to know the correct RDS chain that works in each country for TMC, but it is only information.
The question is: Is there any known way to extract online information of the RDS data from the FM receiver programatically?
I can do a program that attach to any API or hardware interface and present the data in a virtual port.
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Yes, TMC is only a filtered data stream of the RDS network. Obviously it will be needed to know the correct RDS chain that works in each country for TMC, but it is only information.
The question is: Is there any known way to extract online information of the RDS data from the FM receiver programatically?
I can do a program that attach to any API or hardware interface and present the data in a virtual port.
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Well, i can't help you too much but i remember that some time ago, perhaps a year ago, hackers been cheating on RDS and people been foolish when reading on their car radios notices like "alarm because of ..." . I don't remember also wich country, perhaps Australia or Usa.
User22 said:
Well, i can't help you too much but i remember that some time ago, perhaps a year ago, hackers been cheating on RDS and people been foolish when reading on their car radios notices like "alarm because of ..." . I don't remember also wich country, perhaps Australia or Usa.
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I also remember that, but I'm talking of the opossite side of teh RDS: Trafic information is sent like these RDS hackers sent their "information" but in a data format called TMC. Inserting this RDS transmited-TMC coded information into some GPS navigation software helps the software to create optimized routes.
I've seen the Polaris manual and the FM receiver is RDS compliant, then the RDS data transmited over the FM modulation is decoded iniside the Polaris and shown in the screen. But: If we could extract these RDS information from the decoder and make it available in a serial virtual port, then GPS navigation software running in the polaris could take advantage of it.
I need the FMS_API.DLL, then there is TMC/TMC Pro !!!
from what I've read most navigation software support combined gps/tmc on the same com port. this means someone should extract also the gps data and combine both...
At least Destinator 7 supports two separate comports for GPS and TMC.
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At least Destinator 7 supports two separate comports for GPS and TMC.
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it must be changed gpstmc.dll. but the FMS_API.DLL penetrate needed!!!
IGO 8 supports TMC too with different data port.
igo 8 autodetect polaris as tmc
cant find a station though... i think in spain tmc use am not fm
Can you please explain step by step how to do this ? Cause it doesn't looks likes igo8 detects any TMC on my Polaris. It just seems to try all ports and protocols available in it and claims it "TMC device not found" at the end.
Forgot to mention, the TMC protocols available for selection in the igo8 version i did this attempt on are:
GNS
Royaltek
Eten
Amaryllo
Open TMC v1
Open TMC v2
Ngai Lik
Samsung
Fx
AVANTEQ
There is NO TMC support for our POLARIS
There is NO TMC support for our POLARIS
The hardware is not there!
Demodulating the RDS data is all that hardware is supposed to do, the rest can be done by software. Polaris got an FM radio receiver that seems to show the station names. The only place it can get those names from is an RDS stream, so it is already doing the demodulation of that !
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I need the FMS_API.DLL, then there is TMC/TMC Pro !!!
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If still interested, here there is a nice original HTC test package (from the Diamond) containing test FM dll and exe.
Works on Cruise too, and looks more flexible than standard FM radio application. Maybe this code is more useful than standard ROM one.
*BUMP*
Any progress? i'd love to have this on a blackstone.
One strange thing happened on my Polaris.
I have installed Igo 8.0.0.48545 and besides regular functions, I tried to find TMC receiver with Autosearch function, .. and it found TMC receiver ?!?
Unfortunally, I dont have TMC signal transmitting in my country (Croatia) so I will test it during next week while Im on trip in Turkey.
Does anyone have experience with TMC on Polaris. I tried before several times but TMC receiver was never found.
This happened after installing new ROM (udK_Syrius_R8_BETA2_WWE) and Radio 1.59.46.12 (with 1.64.08.21 and older one, my camera didnt work)
Anybody any info ?
Please confirm that this works
Hi,
there s a driver now, I think for it. But I didn' t test it on my device...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=497977
I'm waiting for Navigon Support ;-)
regards,
Stefan
Danijel_HR said:
One strange thing happened on my Polaris.
I have installed Igo 8.0.0.48545 and besides regular functions, I tried to find TMC receiver with Autosearch function, .. and it found TMC receiver ?!?
Unfortunally, I dont have TMC signal transmitting in my country (Croatia) so I will test it during next week while Im on trip in Turkey.
Does anyone have experience with TMC on Polaris. I tried before several times but TMC receiver was never found.
This happened after installing new ROM (udK_Syrius_R8_BETA2_WWE) and Radio 1.59.46.12 (with 1.64.08.21 and older one, my camera didnt work)
Anybody any info ?
Please confirm that this works
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I have Igo 8.3 with TMC. simply go here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=512630
you do not even need to load manually. it has instructions on how to make an icon to activate tmc and load igo.
is it possible to use internal FM radio (e.g blackstone fm radio) as a build in FM transmitter to transmit sound from my phone to my car radio? is it possible by software or is special hardware required?!
Dont think so.. A receiver is not a transmitter. its like trying to burn dvd with a dvd player..
that was my thought either, but it also was just an idea how our devices hardware maybe can be manipulated by software for a different use. and I won't think about the example with the dvd-burning in a dvd-reader, more like using a mic as a speaker, when you plug it differently into e.g a dictaphone ... or something
I don't believe that you can.
It seems to be possible on some chip like BCM4329 that is included in some phone (desire Z or nexus 1). Don't know if some mod ever used this FM tx chip.
came to me an idea to connect the music player in the phone to the FM radio in the car to play it ! I'm very positive for it .. since getting TMC from the radio to the gps software (in this thread) , so there is a possbile connection between them ? the question, could someone come up with a software or hacking can do this ? with no need to buy external FM CAR KIT device to make it works !
I hope yes ...
Thanks ....
Hey Guys
Hyper GPS beta9 doesn't work on this device. Did you try it already and did it work?
I have tried Hypergps today.
IGO8 can find TMC hardware if you set the driver to GNS and a free port (I have used COM5)
As there is no TMC radio station in my country, so I am not sure it is the real thing.
HyperGPS does not work on the Touch2. No radio transmitter is found while scanning. The radio on this device seem to be different than the radio of the Diamond for example. Has anyone an idea how to get this on the Touch2 to run?