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Hi, i just bought a Bluetooth GPS receiver (called BT-R500). I am wanted to use it with my Qtek 2020 (ROM 1.66.04ITA if this can be useful to somebody for helping me out...)!
I can't let them "communicate"...why? Anybody knows what i should do for the setting (which COM port should i use? it says com5 but can't find any satellite...)!!!
Is there somebody that had this kinda proble and solved it? Could you be so kind to let me know? thanks
When you bond the gps it should ask if you wish to use it as serial device. What software are you using and what are the settings you have applied? Have you tried a free 3rd party testing program to see if you are getting connection/signal?
I am using "Mapsonic", that requires a GPS that supports the NMEA signals 2.0. My GPS bluetooth receiver meets NMEA 2.2 requirements. This might be a problem in your opinion? I have not tried to use it with a 3rd party, just because i don't know anyone that has a GPS on his palm.
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Hustladave said:
Hi, i just bought a Bluetooth GPS receiver (called BT-R500). I am wanted to use it with my Qtek 2020 (ROM 1.66.04ITA if this can be useful to somebody for helping me out...)!
I can't let them "communicate"...why? Anybody knows what i should do for the setting (which COM port should i use? it says com5 but can't find any satellite...)!!!
Is there somebody that had this kinda proble and solved it? Could you be so kind to let me know? thanks
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can you actually paired in the first place? or just unable to detect the satelites?
Hustladave
Maybe you should check the baude rate of the GPS device. I am using SysOn and had the same problem. You may also need to check if you are using the old rom or the new WMSE. For the old one, you should install bluetooth tools.
Alternatively, you can try GPS Tuner as it has an auto search function for the devices to communicate. :wink:
i have the same problem with holux 231 BT
i have the 1.72 wwe it work fine in com 5 the navigon reconize him but i have a motorola car kit he can't work with the MSbtooth i must install Bt tools to pair it but in the same time i loose the connection for the GPS
hi change from com5 to com7 i have a tools named gpsviewer delivred with the holux hi fond the GPS but the navigon no
i change the rom to the we 2.20 CHS but i discover that the GPS can't be found i install windcom stack ver1.49 and it work like a charm with the GPS but the are no profile for the car kit
the are ini suggestion to make the 2 device working in the same time
Sacaman
I'm wondering if the RDS data output of the FM receiver can be redirected to a virtual COM port to be used as a TMC receiver with GPS programs like destinator 7.
Strange mate!
even if it was possible then the reviewer said that it only worked when the headset was connected guess it act the role of antenna would be bothersome to have the wiredheadset hanging while using it as gps
Hi Rudegar, great to see the red/white flag ;-)
Headset vs. FM antenna can be handled software wise.. eg. on Eten G500
As soon as headset is plugged a popup asks to redirect sound to ext. speaker for navigation purpose.
As for the TMC / FM radio in HTC products.. (Polaris, Artemis etc.).. Haven't seen a solution yet, RDS is supported in both products, so if TMC mesages runs on the default RDS stream it should be technical possible.
Merry X-mas and Happy Newyear (go' bag(h)jul)
Rudegar said:
even if it was possible then the reviewer said that it only worked when the headset was connected guess it act the role of antenna would be bothersome to have the wiredheadset hanging while using it as gps
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I don't think that this could be a problem: I'm thinking on connecting the device in my car with a "Y" connector, one of the outputs to the sound system (car radio) and other to a power system. It is easy to connect the car antenna with a capacitor to the sound line.
Then the Device will be connected to a external headeset, with good antenna capacity, and at the same time to the car power.
cptn_dk said:
Hi Rudegar, great to see the red/white flag ;-)
Headset vs. FM antenna can be handled software wise.. eg. on Eten G500
As soon as headset is plugged a popup asks to redirect sound to ext. speaker for navigation purpose.
As for the TMC / FM radio in HTC products.. (Polaris, Artemis etc.).. Haven't seen a solution yet, RDS is supported in both products, so if TMC mesages runs on the default RDS stream it should be technical possible.
Merry X-mas and Happy Newyear (go' bag(h)jul)
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Yes, TMC is only a filtered data stream of the RDS network. Obviously it will be needed to know the correct RDS chain that works in each country for TMC, but it is only information.
The question is: Is there any known way to extract online information of the RDS data from the FM receiver programatically?
I can do a program that attach to any API or hardware interface and present the data in a virtual port.
beemerTPPC said:
Yes, TMC is only a filtered data stream of the RDS network. Obviously it will be needed to know the correct RDS chain that works in each country for TMC, but it is only information.
The question is: Is there any known way to extract online information of the RDS data from the FM receiver programatically?
I can do a program that attach to any API or hardware interface and present the data in a virtual port.
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Well, i can't help you too much but i remember that some time ago, perhaps a year ago, hackers been cheating on RDS and people been foolish when reading on their car radios notices like "alarm because of ..." . I don't remember also wich country, perhaps Australia or Usa.
User22 said:
Well, i can't help you too much but i remember that some time ago, perhaps a year ago, hackers been cheating on RDS and people been foolish when reading on their car radios notices like "alarm because of ..." . I don't remember also wich country, perhaps Australia or Usa.
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I also remember that, but I'm talking of the opossite side of teh RDS: Trafic information is sent like these RDS hackers sent their "information" but in a data format called TMC. Inserting this RDS transmited-TMC coded information into some GPS navigation software helps the software to create optimized routes.
I've seen the Polaris manual and the FM receiver is RDS compliant, then the RDS data transmited over the FM modulation is decoded iniside the Polaris and shown in the screen. But: If we could extract these RDS information from the decoder and make it available in a serial virtual port, then GPS navigation software running in the polaris could take advantage of it.
I need the FMS_API.DLL, then there is TMC/TMC Pro !!!
from what I've read most navigation software support combined gps/tmc on the same com port. this means someone should extract also the gps data and combine both...
At least Destinator 7 supports two separate comports for GPS and TMC.
beemerTPPC said:
At least Destinator 7 supports two separate comports for GPS and TMC.
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it must be changed gpstmc.dll. but the FMS_API.DLL penetrate needed!!!
IGO 8 supports TMC too with different data port.
igo 8 autodetect polaris as tmc
cant find a station though... i think in spain tmc use am not fm
Can you please explain step by step how to do this ? Cause it doesn't looks likes igo8 detects any TMC on my Polaris. It just seems to try all ports and protocols available in it and claims it "TMC device not found" at the end.
Forgot to mention, the TMC protocols available for selection in the igo8 version i did this attempt on are:
GNS
Royaltek
Eten
Amaryllo
Open TMC v1
Open TMC v2
Ngai Lik
Samsung
Fx
AVANTEQ
There is NO TMC support for our POLARIS
There is NO TMC support for our POLARIS
The hardware is not there!
Demodulating the RDS data is all that hardware is supposed to do, the rest can be done by software. Polaris got an FM radio receiver that seems to show the station names. The only place it can get those names from is an RDS stream, so it is already doing the demodulation of that !
Mc0815 said:
I need the FMS_API.DLL, then there is TMC/TMC Pro !!!
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If still interested, here there is a nice original HTC test package (from the Diamond) containing test FM dll and exe.
Works on Cruise too, and looks more flexible than standard FM radio application. Maybe this code is more useful than standard ROM one.
*BUMP*
Any progress? i'd love to have this on a blackstone.
I just came across a Cingular 2125 running Windows Mobile v6.1 being used on ATT Wireless network here in the states, An upgrade from my Nokia 6085. I would like to make it GPS Enabled even if I have to purchase a Bluetooth GPS Receiver (since I cant get my BT353 USB GPS Receiver work.)
Most all of the BlueTooth GPS Receivers I see use the Serial Port Profile (SPP) and I cant tell for sure but from what I read and can tell the 2125 doesnt support this Bluetooth Profile.
Yet alot of wesite I see including the ATT website says the 2125 supports external bluetooth gps receivers. Says 2125 is compatible with ATT Navigator with use of a BT-359C via SPP so im confused.
Can I used GPS Navigating software on the 2125 running WM5? And if so What GPS Reciever can I use. I was hoping to be able to use my BR-353 but not sure were to find usb driver that will work under WM5. The ones provided from usglobalsat are only for PPC and not WM6.
Any thoughts?
Many thanks,
SomeGuy
Anyone?
Just want to make sure that if I purchase a Bluetooth GPS Receiver it will work. Any recommendations on any paticular gps receiver?
SomeGuy
:BUMP:
Will a Bluetooth GPS that supports SPP profile work with the Cingular 2125?
Please Please!
I've used both of the Dell Bluetooth GPS units. One is the BT309 and I'm not sure the number of the newer model. I don't see why any Bluetooth GPS wouldn't work. Just select it and add a serial port for the connection. Then point whatever software you have to it. I'm using TomTom 5.2 which I guess is the last version for smartphone. I read somewhere that you could also run TomTom 6 (PPC version) but I can't figure out how (unless you use a ppc rom?).
Has anyone been able to activate the TMC function in IGO8?
I read somewhere in this forum that our TP is able to recieve TMC signals becouse it has RDS radio, so how do I activate this?
I don't think so. Can you find where you read about that?
I've found some interesting behavior in iGO8 on the Touch Pro. Since the headset acts as an antenna for the FM Radio app (which supports RDS), this is with the headset connected:
iGO8 > Settings > TMC > Scan
The first time through, when iGO8 gets to the GNS protocol, a WM notification pops up asking if I want to allow a dll to run. iGO8 will then choose GNS and search for a receiver on COM3, 4, and 7, but then report no TMC hardware found.
If I have the FM Radio running in the background (tuned to a station that's broadcasting RDS text) and run the same scan in iGO8, it will skip COM7 (as if it's already in use), though still reports the same no TMC hardware found message.
I would optimistically say that the settings are GNS/COM7, and that iGO8 doesn't have the proper code to activate the RDS chip. But then I don't know if the TMC signal is different from the regular RDS signal that radio stations use, so it may simply be impossible one way or another.
COM7 is for bluetooth AFAIK, so I don't think you are on to something.
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COM7 is for bluetooth AFAIK, so I don't think you are on to something.
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I never said I was
But it's certainly a bit of odd behavior, since I did the scans with bluetooth off.
I can confirm that!
fhsieh said:
I've found some interesting behavior in iGO8 on the Touch Pro. Since the headset acts as an antenna for the FM Radio app (which supports RDS), this is with the headset connected:
iGO8 > Settings > TMC > Scan
The first time through, when iGO8 gets to the GNS protocol, a WM notification pops up asking if I want to allow a dll to run. iGO8 will then choose GNS and search for a receiver on COM3, 4, and 7, but then report no TMC hardware found.
If I have the FM Radio running in the background (tuned to a station that's broadcasting RDS text) and run the same scan in iGO8, it will skip COM7 (as if it's already in use), though still reports the same no TMC hardware found message.
I would optimistically say that the settings are GNS/COM7, and that iGO8 doesn't have the proper code to activate the RDS chip. But then I don't know if the TMC signal is different from the regular RDS signal that radio stations use, so it may simply be impossible one way or another.
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Actually you are on to something, I did the test myself right now and sure enough, with the radio off it scans GNS 7 but if you turn it on it just quits scanning after GNS 4! And to answer your question I dont have the bluetooth radio on!
So the question now is if the RDS signals from the radio stations are the same as the TMC signals, and if so how do we get IGO8 to recognize that it has a RDS radio?
i did an autoscan with headsets plugged in and fm radio software off. igo8 said it detected tmc hardware, but in my country there is no tmc service available so i can't test it.
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i did an autoscan with headsets plugged in and fm radio software off. igo8 said it detected tmc hardware, but in my country there is no tmc service available so i can't test it.
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Are you sure it said it detected the hardware? becouse mine sure doesn say that!
My iGO 8 finds some hardware after scanning (It said something like "Found TMC hardware") and presents me with the TMC Station settings. Here, supposedly, I should tune for a TMC radio station/frequency or select "Use Auto-tuner". But I get stuck right there. I can't tune and switching on the auto-tuner doesn't seem to do anything (stays at 0.0MHz).
My guess, iGO found some hardware (or so it thinks), but can't put it to use (maybe a newer version of the hardware iGO thinks it found is in the TP?).
I can't rescan to tell you guys what protocol and port it was, ones iGO finds the hardware it will not let go of it
For the protocol I think it's something like Silicon (after he scanned for GNS), which came up right before he said he found the hardware.
We'll wait and see
I used iGO8 version 8.0.0.49545
There is a sys.txt in your SDMMC/iGo8. Here you can look up what iGo detected, looking at the TMC section.
iGO did not change the sys file located on the storage card, nor did it change the sys file in the "Program Files/iGO" folder on the TP. There is a 8kB gpstmc.pil file located at "Program Files/iGO", but it seems empty when viewing it. This file was modified today around the time I scanned for TMC hardware.
I replaced it with an older version of this file but iGO won't let me rescan..
I will have a look at it later.
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My iGO 8 finds some hardware after scanning (It said something like "Found TMC hardware") and presents me with the TMC Station settings. Here, supposedly, I should tune for a TMC radio station/frequency or select "Use Auto-tuner". But I get stuck right there. I can't tune and switching on the auto-tuner doesn't seem to do anything (stays at 0.0MHz).
My guess, iGO found some hardware (or so it thinks), but can't put it to use (maybe a newer version of the hardware iGO thinks it found is in the TP?).
I can't rescan to tell you guys what protocol and port it was, ones iGO finds the hardware it will not let go of it
For the protocol I think it's something like Silicon (after he scanned for GNS), which came up right before he said he found the hardware.
We'll wait and see
I used iGO8 version 8.0.0.49545
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I have an older version of IGO8 V. 8.0.0.41506
So maybe if I upgrade to a newer version mine too will find some TMC hardware? I will keep you guys posted!
i use a bluetooth tmc receiver from:
navilock.de
works very good!
jonkheer said:
iGO did not change the sys file located on the storage card, nor did it change the sys file in the "Program Files/iGO" folder on the TP. There is a 8kB gpstmc.pil file located at "Program Files/iGO", but it seems empty when viewing it. This file was modified today around the time I scanned for TMC hardware.
I replaced it with an older version of this file but iGO won't let me rescan..
I will have a look at it later.
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I have the same problem.
The settings of tmc are located in Storage Card/igo8/save/system.ini
The settings that are found with autoscan are:
- RDS_GPSTMC_SILICONLAB
- COM 4
If you remove all lines in the file under [tmc], you can rescan or set your own settings.
I can confirm:
- TMC hardware found as SiliconLab Port 4
- Frequency hangs on 0.0MHz
- Under frequency there is just 'Testing' label
I am also interrested about to working TMC,unfortunately my experiences are not enough for that.
TomasNM said:
I can confirm:
- TMC hardware found as SiliconLab Port 4
- Frequency hangs on 0.0MHz
- Under frequency there is just 'Testing' label
I am also interrested about to working TMC,unfortunately my experiences are not enough for that.
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Using IGo 8, my ATT Fuze also detected TMC hardware but that was it.
TomasNM said:
I can confirm:
- TMC hardware found as SiliconLab Port 4
- Frequency hangs on 0.0MHz
- Under frequency there is just 'Testing' label
I am also interrested about to working TMC,unfortunately my experiences are not enough for that.
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Hi everybody,
I am new to this forum, but I have read all this thread concerning the use of iGo8 on Touch HD. And I would to thank you for the useful information that can be found on this thread.
I got iGo8 to work very well on my Touch HD, except for the TMC with the internal radio. I know the internal radio is capable to receive TMC messages. However, the autotuning does not work and neither the manual tuning of the radio frequency.
I got iGo8 to recognize the internal radio by adding in the sys.txt file the following:
[tmc]
saved_config_available="1"
saved_config_classname="RDS_GPSTMC_SILICONLAB"
saved_config_portname="COM"
saved_config_port="3"
saved_last_tuning_mode="1"
So now, the internal radio is recognized but no luke with the frequency tuning.
Did anybody figure out a way to get it to work ?
flohtc said:
Hi everybody,
I got iGo8 to recognize the internal radio by adding in the sys.txt file the following:
[tmc]
saved_config_available="1"
saved_config_classname="RDS_GPSTMC_SILICONLAB"
saved_config_portname="COM"
saved_config_port="3"
saved_last_tuning_mode="1"
So now, the internal radio is recognized but no luke with the frequency tuning.
Did anybody figure out a way to get it to work ?
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saved_confiq_(last_)frequency="**.*" ???? or something alike??
just a wild guess
I have tried that too... but without any luck. Even if you set the last saved frequency to something else than 0.0 MHz, it still stays at 0.0 MHz.
It seems that iGo8 is not able to set the frequency of the internal radio.
Good try...
there are some people on modaco that are working on TMC for an omnia, they might have some info for you guys.
http://www.modaco.com/content-page/273982/tmc/page/100/
One strange thing happened on my Polaris.
I have installed Igo 8.0.0.48545 and besides regular functions, I tried to find TMC receiver with Autosearch function, .. and it found TMC receiver ?!?
Unfortunally, I dont have TMC signal transmitting in my country (Croatia) so I will test it during next week while Im on trip in Turkey.
Does anyone have experience with TMC on Polaris. I tried before several times but TMC receiver was never found.
This happened after installing new ROM (udK_Syrius_R8_BETA2_WWE) and Radio 1.59.46.12 (with 1.64.08.21 and older one, my camera didnt work)
Anybody any info ?
Please confirm that this works
Hi,
there s a driver now, I think for it. But I didn' t test it on my device...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=497977
I'm waiting for Navigon Support ;-)
regards,
Stefan
Danijel_HR said:
One strange thing happened on my Polaris.
I have installed Igo 8.0.0.48545 and besides regular functions, I tried to find TMC receiver with Autosearch function, .. and it found TMC receiver ?!?
Unfortunally, I dont have TMC signal transmitting in my country (Croatia) so I will test it during next week while Im on trip in Turkey.
Does anyone have experience with TMC on Polaris. I tried before several times but TMC receiver was never found.
This happened after installing new ROM (udK_Syrius_R8_BETA2_WWE) and Radio 1.59.46.12 (with 1.64.08.21 and older one, my camera didnt work)
Anybody any info ?
Please confirm that this works
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I have Igo 8.3 with TMC. simply go here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=512630
you do not even need to load manually. it has instructions on how to make an icon to activate tmc and load igo.