Call recording - General Questions and Answers

I know call recording on WM devices has been beat to death and that the issue lay with the hardware limitations of the audio line when in a call... But I had a thought, would it be possible to create a dummy bluetooth device that simply wrote the audio to a file? How hard would this be?
While probably not easy, with some of the other accomplishments that already exist (e.g. Bluetooth audio router software), it would seem possible. Ideas?

insol said:
I know call recording on WM devices has been beat to death and that the issue lay with the hardware limitations of the audio line when in a call... But I had a thought, would it be possible to create a dummy bluetooth device that simply wrote the audio to a file? How hard would this be?
While probably not easy, with some of the other accomplishments that already exist (e.g. Bluetooth audio router software), it would seem possible. Ideas?
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Hi,
Call recording is easily done with Vito AudioNotes.
Dirk

dirlan2001 said:
Hi,
Call recording is easily done with Vito AudioNotes.
Dirk
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*yawn*
Please don't post incorrect stuff. No, not even AudioNotes is capable of fixing these issues.

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Recording Phone Calles....

Hi there i have noticed that ppl want to record their phone conversation so here is the trick i got from Pocket PC email.
Recording phone calls
Here's a neat trick you can do with your Pocket PC Phone Edition that you probably can't do with your old phone. Did you know you can record single phone conversations or keep track of conference calls with your Pocket PC? This would come in very handy if you would like to remember exactly what a conversation was about, days after the conversation had taken place! Of course, you can also use it to make sure you get what you are promised when you call your telephone company to sort out your account!
Before you do this, you should be aware of the laws in your area regarding recording phone conversations. You should also tell the person you are talking to that you are going to record the phone conversation. Having done that, read on...
To record a phone call, start the phone call as per normal, then once you have started the phone call, open the notes application (tap the button), tap New from the menu bar at the bottom, and tap the button. You should see the recording bar at the bottom of the screen.
Simply tap the record button to record the conversation.
You may get variable results depending on the device you are using, and may not be able to use this at all on some devices - particularly older ones.
... or you can just press a record button after establising a call.
On most devices this would record only sound coming to microphone, so other party sound volume would be low. This has been discussed several times before.
also it does record only in WAV files & still the recording length is limited to a certain maximum length!
recording phone calls
Seems to me that what people would like is (NaturalRecorder)
http://www.naturalwidgets.com/products/naturalrecorder/
But this is only Compatible with Nokia Series 60
unless some one knows how to adapt it
if i am recording a call using the Notes application i can hear my voice ver clear but i can't hear the other end.. how to improve that?
this method does not work with magician
ezzkht said:
also it does record only in WAV files & still the recording length is limited to a certain maximum length!
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I guess 3 minutes
Guys, I've just had a thought about this problem (recording/playing sound from/to the phone)
How does the bluetooth profile work? This is redirecting audio through the bluetooth stack to the headset.
Would it be feasible to write a dummy bluetooth profile that would merely redirect audio in/out back to the local device, so that we can record it etc?
V
I once recorded conversation using Resco Audio recorder V 3.2...one can listen the other party sound.. relatively better than the notes application...
But I guess this will work much better in quiet surroundings..
Have anyone tried Simbsoft Voice Recorder?
http://www.handango.com/PlatformPro...latformId=2&N=96806&productId=118218&R=118218
Anyone any thoughts on the bluetooth profile idea?
Concensus is that it is not technically possible otherwise to record the phone through current software and drivers; I haven't tried other recording software, but that's not what I'm talking about...
V
vijay555 said:
Anyone any thoughts on the bluetooth profile idea?
Concensus is that it is not technically possible otherwise to record the phone through current software and drivers; I haven't tried other recording software, but that's not what I'm talking about...
V
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It could work if someone can write a virtual BT driver, which would actually buffer the incoming & outgoing audio streams & write them to a WAV or MP3 file..
By the way, Resco Audio Recorder can record both parties in a conversation! I just tried it now on my JAM
ezzkht - re buffering Audio, that's exactly what I'm suggesting. I know some of the guys on the board are working on a bluetooth stack replacement. I guess I better post a new thread on this subject.
Re Resco: is it recording internally, or through the microphone and speaker? eg, is it dependant on how loud the phone volume is?
V
vijay555 said:
ezzkht - re buffering Audio, that's exactly what I'm suggesting. I know some of the guys on the board are working on a bluetooth stack replacement. I guess I better post a new thread on this subject.
Re Resco: is it recording internally, or through the microphone and speaker? eg, is it dependant on how loud the phone volume is?
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(RESCO) It does not depend on the volume of the phone! thats why i liked it 8)
Give it a try, http://www.resco.net/pocketpc/audiorecorder/default.asp
That's very interesting. I'll look into it.
V
ezzkht said:
It could work if someone can write a virtual BT driver, which would actually buffer the incoming & outgoing audio streams & write them to a WAV or MP3 file.
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this would not work. GSM audio outputs are physically connected directly to BT chip and data does not go through any driver.
mamaich - thanks! Didn't know that. What do you think about Resco audiorecorder recording both sides? I've not heard of that before.
V
Thanks mamaich! I never knew that
So how could Resco Audio Recorder capture both streams together..?
BTW, as far as one-button recording start is concerned, you may want to check out the "One-button recording? Does it need to show the app window?" row in the article "Everything you may need to know about sound recording on the Pocket PC": http://pocketpcmag.com/blogs/menneisyys/112005SoundRecorderApps.asp
Almost all sound / audio recorder applications know this trick.
Go get PMRRecorder at http://www.1800message.com/SPWM5CallRec.cab
It works very well on my Universal! It automatically records calls! I take the recorded files and have my secretary transpose them to text. Audio level is very good.

S710 /E650 call recording problem

Hi,
Is there any way to record phone calls on Orange E650? I tried couple programs, like VITO AudioNotes, but they record only my voice from mic
skellen said:
Hi,
Is there any way to record phone calls on Orange E650? I tried couple programs, like VITO AudioNotes, but they record only my voice from mic
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One quick method, is use the speaker phone, and launch the camera in video recording mode, and start recording the video. It will pick up the audio from the speakerphone.
Perhaps not as good as commercial software out there, but it works
skellen said:
Hi,
Is there any way to record phone calls on Orange E650? I tried couple programs, like VITO AudioNotes, but they record only my voice from mic
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Nope. As has also been pointed out in my articles, the Vox doesn't support call recording (as opposed to some other Smartphone models).
Your best bet is enabling the speakerphone.
Menneisyys said:
Nope. As has also been pointed out in my articles, the Vox doesn't support call recording (as opposed to some other Smartphone models).
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Yes, I was read your article about Vox. But I was not sure, that it doesn't support call recording at all, or there is no software able to capture incoming audio stream in this device.
It does mean, that software to full call recording is impossible to create for this device?

bypass headset earphone jack switch

Hi,
Before I start creating an application that would bypass the headset earphone jack switch(the one the activates once you insert a headset), I would like to know or find out first, if it is programatically possilble to bypass this manually by a registry setting or an application. If yes, kindly advice as to where I should start.
I found similar application while searching for solution to
fix sound problem while using VOIP on Titan/Mogul
and other HTC devices. It was writen for ETEN but
to my disapoitment doesnt work on the Titan
http://www.eten-users.eu/lofiversion/index.php/t8854.html
lifeisfun said:
I found similar application while searching for solution to
fix sound problem while using VOIP on Titan/Mogul
and other HTC devices. It was writen for ETEN but
to my disapoitment doesnt work on the Titan
http://www.eten-users.eu/lofiversion/index.php/t8854.html
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tnx, this application works w/ my device but i don't see the capability toggle the headset profile.
up up up...
up up up...
any takers or brave soul out there?
Hi,
As I understand it the HTC models that do have an FM Radio build in can switch the FM Radio output the the main speaker even while the headset is plugged in. It needs to be pluggen in; it's theis antenne. So my guess is that it must be possible. I myself would be very interested in such a program.
Good luck, hope you'll sucseed,
Cheers,
Cactus
le_cactus said:
Hi,
As I understand it the HTC models that do have an FM Radio build in can switch the FM Radio output the the main speaker even while the headset is plugged in. It needs to be pluggen in; it's theis antenne. So my guess is that it must be possible. I myself would be very interested in such a program.
Good luck, hope you'll sucseed,
Cheers,
Cactus
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yup
anybody out there who could point me in the right direction? where should i start...?
still no luck on this - pls help, even just to point us in the right direction
i've search desperately but no luck i know it is possible; first because the built fm radio application can stream through both speaker and earphone. second, i run into a bluetooth app that can divert/stream audio(not only calls). this leads me to conclude, that is it possible. i just don't have infos i need to create one. i've read many msdn articles, tutorials but still no luck that is specific.
please to all the programmers out there, help us. this is just a very simple app and it would hurt 5mins of your time just to point me in the right direction. I am most willing to view/review servelar even tons of source codes that is very similar or close to the solution we are looking for, you just have to share it to us. thank you. i hope somebody out there could help us.
adomila said:
Hi,
Before I start creating an application that would bypass the headset earphone jack switch(the one the activates once you insert a headset), I would like to know or find out first, if it is programatically possilble to bypass this manually by a registry setting or an application. If yes, kindly advice as to where I should start.
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In the registry:
HKLM/System/State/Hardware
change the key "Headset" 0 to 1.
but the headphones works like antenna and you dont hear any radio station.
ryomahino said:
In the registry:
HKLM/System/State/Hardware
change the key "Headset" 0 to 1.
but the headphones works like antenna and you dont hear any radio station.
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thank you ryomahino, for taking time to reply. i'm already aware of this registry work around and have done this already, but the hardware switch still persists. aslo sometimes or when you reset, it does not persists. so the only solution is having at switch, that will run the audio both on the headset and speaker, pretty much like what the fm radio does, but must also work on calls, together with the microphone. im pretty sure this is very much simple for those experience programmers out there. if we put together that fm radio and bluetooth audio capability then this would work. just need a little push/help as to where start. or if I could look into those source codes then we are ready to go...
technical question on fm radio app
Gurus/programmers/anybody,
Does anybody know, or at the least, give me an idea, as to how the o2 xda atom build in fm radio application, programmatically (technically) toggle from stereo headset to speaker? Just even, point me to the right direction, pls, I'll read tons of infos, if need be...
Had same problem on my Raphael, here is what I did:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=444581
Maybe this or similar would help you as a workaround too.....
this app would be great for htc touch hd!
i use normal 3,5inch headphones to listen to music but when i do a call i always have to plug them out! would be nice to have an app that automatically disables headset when you are in a call so you can have your headphones attached but still talk with the phone!
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Polaris sound volume & quality

Hi there !
I've my Polaris since one week now and I'm very happy with except with the sound output.
First, and comparing to the ELF (Touch), I find that the quality of the sound output (on the external loudspeaker) is really bad (in quality and with 2 time less in volume). Tested with a MP3.
Second, when I use the headphone, playing any sound, I've two time less volume into the headphone with the Polaris than with the ELF.
The most strange thing is that with the FM Radio I've a clear and loud volume.
Then I suppose that this problem won't come from the hardware but seem to be the same as by the past with other HTC PPC: A software (system) bug.
F.y.i, I've tested the WOW SRS application. The main difference is that the sound become much "crispy" but don't change anything on the volume.
Anyone have the same problem ? (I really hope )
Thanks for your feedback.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=358046
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=358046
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Thx Riconat but as I've explained, my problem "only" occur when I listen a MP3 or any other sound.
With the Radio, it is perfect (without any need to use "AudioBooster" application).
Hows the sound quality and loudness on a call on the speakerphone compared to listening to an MP3 on speakerphone?
I have a rather opposite problem,
When listening to mp3 co audioboster feel a fable,
Fm radio instead feels very low in both headphones and external
HyperM3 said:
Hows the sound quality and loudness on a call on the speakerphone compared to listening to an MP3 on speakerphone?
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Same and much bad as on the ELF.
I also remarked that the voice sound of the TomTom isn't so good (if in this case, I find it sufficiently good).
by the way, I've tested the headset with a phone conversation, no problem, the sound is clear and sufficiently loud.
academic said:
Same and much bad as on the ELF.
I also remarked that the voice sound of the TomTom isn't so good (if in this case, I find it sufficiently good).
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I'm trying to understand what you wrote. Seems like you contradicted yourself in each sentence.
HyperM3 said:
I'm trying to understand what you wrote. Seems like you contradicted yourself in each sentence.
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;-) Sorry for my poor English
What I would say are two things
Comparing to the HTC ELF (Touch), my Polaris is really bad (volume problem) when I listen a MP3. Same MP3 tested on both Mobile (ELF & Polaris), two time more volume on the ELF than on the Polaris. Also the output of the same MP3 on the external loudspeaker of the Polaris is crappy comparing to the ELF (tested with the same MP3 file)
I've also remarked that the sound of the voice of my TomTom navigator isn't so good as I can expect (but I also wrote that this point isn't the most important for me)
I've tested all what I can with a lot of tools.. The volume problem with the MP3 is really one (for me, at the moment) unsolvable problem.
I'll try to open a ticket to HTC by tomorrow and see what they told me.
academic said:
;-) Sorry for my poor English
What I would say are two things
Comparing to the HTC ELF (Touch), my Polaris is really bad (volume problem) when I listen a MP3. Same MP3 tested on both Mobile (ELF & Polaris), two time more volume on the ELF than on the Polaris. Also the output of the same MP3 on the external loudspeaker of the Polaris is crappy comparing to the ELF (tested with the same MP3 file)
I've also remarked that the sound of the voice of my TomTom navigator isn't so good as I can expect (but I also wrote that this point isn't the most important for me)
I've tested all what I can with a lot of tools.. The volume problem with the MP3 is really one (for me, at the moment) unsolvable problem.
I'll try to open a ticket to HTC by tomorrow and see what they told me.
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Ok, thanks for the quick reply, wasnt trying to offend.
My question is more about the speaker quality in terms of actual calls. I plan to use this phone more as a phone and pda than media device. If Im on a conference call, I want to be able to hear my other party on the speakerphone pretty clearly.
HyperM3 said:
Ok, thanks for the quick reply, wasnt trying to offend.
My question is more about the speaker quality in terms of actual calls. I plan to use this phone more as a phone and pda than media device. If Im on a conference call, I want to be able to hear my other party on the speakerphone pretty clearly.
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You don't offend me mate !
I haven't yet tested the sound of the speakerphone. I'll do some tests by tomorrow and give you a short feedback here.
academic said:
You don't offend me mate !
I haven't yet tested the sound of the speakerphone. I'll do some tests by tomorrow and give you a short feedback here.
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Thanks again for the swiftness of your reply.
I wait for your response eagerly. If theres anyone else that has one in the US on AT&T Id like to hear your comments as well.
HyperM3 said:
Thanks again for the swiftness of your reply.
I wait for your response eagerly. If theres anyone else that has one in the US on AT&T Id like to hear your comments as well.
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Well. Just tested the speaker sound in a conf call. The sound is quite good (comparing with my old p3600 [Trinity]).
That's all for the moment.
As I previously wrote, I'll try to call HTC about my MP3 volume sound (and also quality of the output when the MP3 is played via le Speakerphone.
Keep you informed here as soon as I've more news.
Same problem with me .
Speakerphone works pretty good in conversation and with FM...but Mp3 sound very low. I've tried to increase their volume with Mp3gain...no results.
That's why, it's impossible to set a mp3 as ringtone because sound is too low
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Jules Winnfield said:
it's impossible to set a mp3 as ringtone because sound is too low
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Hmm, thats a bit disconcerting. All my ring tones are MP3's. Happy to hear that conversation is good but if I cant hear my phone ring, thats a different story.
Jules Winnfield said:
Same problem with me .
Speakerphone works pretty good in conversation and with FM...but Mp3 sound very low. I've tried to increase their volume with Mp3gain...no results.
That's why, it's impossible to set a mp3 as ringtone because sound is too low
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Welcome to the club ;-)
Well.. What I propose is that you call HTC on your side and I'll do the same on my side. (I suggest this to all other people that have the same problem). HTC MUST do something to correct this problem.
Tomorrow, I'll send a mail to HTC.
But, I'm not sure that their answer will be helpful.
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Jules Winnfield said:
Tomorrow, I'll send a mail to HTC.
But, I'm not sure that their answer will be helpful.
@+
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You're right. But by doing nothing, nothing will happen . I remember a similar problem by the past with the P3600 (Trinity).. The problem was fixed by ...... xda developers
I really can't imagine that a company like HTC don't fully test their mobile for such basic operation... Incredible but real.
Well, wait and see
Mail just sent now to the HTC support service.
Wait and see..
Jules Winnfield said:
Same problem with me .
Speakerphone works pretty good in conversation and with FM...but Mp3 sound very low. I've tried to increase their volume with Mp3gain...no results.
That's why, it's impossible to set a mp3 as ringtone because sound is too low
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Back to issue. I think that's a bit weird coz my MP3's plays good and loud enough on Mobile Media Player 10 an Audio Manager. In fact, all my notifications were MP3 based.
@reyjabs
I tried to play Mp3 with Windows Media Player and...it sounds no bad at all .
But if I try to set this same MP3 as ringtone...it sounds too low .
Maybe, I have to use a 3rd party soft to set MP3 as notifications with an acceptable level? Do you use this kind of software?
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FM Radio recording software

Hello,
I often attend meetings that are broadcast over FM frequency. I am wondering if anyone knows of an app that I could use to record off of the FM radio.
One of my friends has the samsung omnia, and that phone FM radio has the feature built in,, is there something like that I can use for my phone?
thanks!
Resco Pocket Radio seems to offer the ability to record from radio? I know it's a pain buying another radio programwhen the device has one built in, but there is a free trial..
http://www.resco.net/pocketpc/radio/default.asp
Thanks for the reply about Resco radio. I tried that but sadly it only records from internet streaming radio, it is not an fm receiver.
I am still looking for something that can just record from the local FM frequency.
any leads?
thanks!
Atm it's not possible to record digitally directly from FM radio... It's needed a driver that drives the signal directy to the recording function. Atm that driver doesn't exist.
In the meanwhile you can use just the microphone to record any audio coming from TD2.
zooster said:
Atm it's not possible to record digitally directly from FM radio... It's needed a driver that drives the signal directy to the recording function. Atm that driver doesn't exist.
In the meanwhile you can use just the microphone to record any audio coming from TD2.
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It not working.. After starting FM radio, then I go back to the tape machine, an error message appeared:
Unable to open audio input
Please try to close other audio applications, and ask for support if that doesn't help.
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After that, I try play the FM radio first and then run the tape machine. The same arror appeared.
I hope, who have developing the call in/out recording can develop this function too.
Absolutely not
This is absolutely not the same thing lol
However, I think you can manage something if you would like to make a sacrifice
You need to have the headphones on to listen fm radio and they have a special connector to let them be detected by the htc.
You may with a small handyworks and the loose of the headphones manage to adapt something to the headphone wire. After all, what come to your ears is normal sound from a normal wire that you should be able to plug elsewhere. I never tried, I do not know if it may work but for exemple just put the wire of the headphone over the wire of the micro can work.
Refer to a hifi specialist for more info
im using Resco Pocket Radio on my mobile and it works very will for record any thing

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