The newest version of TomTom Navigator supports non touch screen devices.
I stumbled in this information by accident and thought it would be usefull over here.
I've tested it on a HTC StarTrek (qtek 8500 etc) with a WM 6.1 standard ROM and it works like a charm with the newest maps.
No more FakeCursor needed, you can scroll and use numeric keypad
Version is: 7.915.9196.
Because of slightly warez related.....google is our best friend.
How I combined 7.450 and 7.915 to get it working on my SAMSUNG JACK i637
Hey guys, I bought a Samsung JACK (637) a couple of months ago and really wanted to install a GPS software to use with my Bluetooth GPS receiver. So I spent a lot of time searching and researching my options. Since I used to use TomTom on my iPaq 2495, I decided to go with that.
I found that I had to spend MORE time on figuring out the RIGHT version of Tomtom Navigator and the combined MAP than I anticipated.
TO CUT TO THE CHASE, after experimenting a few version (6.xxxx, 7.450.xxxx, 7.910.xxxx, and 7.915.xxxx) I realized that the 7.450.9028 version works best but NOT without the following FLAWS:
7.915.9196 - Scrolling works for the menu items but NOT for useful features such as searching for address, and POIs, and even setting up the COM PORT for the GPS.
TO SOLVE THIS PROBLEM, I combined two versions: the 7.450 and 7.915. Here's HOW:
The problem with 7.450.9028, at least for me, was that:
Searching for POI using the 'ANY CATEGORY' option yields 'NO POI FOUND' all the time.
It couldn't search through the POI database using KEYWORDS. The version of map I tried is 720 and it sure isn't the problem.
So, I made my OWN version:
1) Install 7.450.9028 on your PDA/SMARTPHONE
2) Copy the Navigator directory from /Program Files/ on your device to your Hard Drive.
3) Remove TOMTOM from your device.
4) Install 7.915.9196 on your device.
5) Replace all files except "TomTom Navigator.exe" in Navigator directory of the new installation with those in the Navigator directory indicated in step 2).
6) DONE
I now have a version of Tomtom with the 7.915 main program file and the 7.450 system files.
Now I can search POIs by keyword AND scroll with my UP and DOWN buttons.
These are instructions I think might be useful for at least some people. But I leave you to buy your own copies of the program and MAP so don't ask me for them.
I haven't tested with the more recent 840.2563 maps but I foresee for this to work with it, too.
That's interesting - also stumbled over the sudden "smartphone mode" in the latest version when playing with KS20 and my old Vox back and forth. I noticed though, that the menus in the "smartphone mode" are different from the normal "touchscreen mode".
Especially:
- no (direct) option to delete a route (plan a new route and abort when it starts to calculate immediately instead)
- useless menu to "manage phones"
It looks as if TT is in some mode intended for onboard car device.
What happens if you use the "manage Phones" menu (2.4)?
Your merged TT Versions should relate to the data.chk file (the other big file aside the TT.exe) - so maybe there is easier way to get it replaced. Merging data.chk and TomTom...exe with different versions did not work for me though, but you brought back the attention that it actually works as well (with minor quirks).
Just re-checked if everything works allright with scrolling on the VOX and Tornado - and it does (my Tornado is on WM6 cooked ROM, so not WM5) and the VOX is with Stock ROM 6.0 - so no problems with scrolling here.
The 7.915 had other side-effects, if I remember right like disconnecting BT-GPS in background, so you can't use it as "voice only". Will have to actually use it in real life to see if it works as reliable as the TT5.2 does (depite the maps are getting really outdated...)
tobbbie said:
That's interesting - also stumbled over the sudden "smartphone mode" in the latest version when playing with KS20 and my old Vox back and forth. I noticed though, that the menus in the "smartphone mode" are different from the normal "touchscreen mode".
Especially:
- no (direct) option to delete a route (plan a new route and abort when it starts to calculate immediately instead)
- useless menu to "manage phones"
It looks as if TT is in some mode intended for onboard car device.
What happens if you use the "manage Phones" menu (2.4)?
Your merged TT Versions should relate to the data.chk file (the other big file aside the TT.exe) - so maybe there is easier way to get it replaced. Merging data.chk and TomTom...exe with different versions did not work for me though, but you brought back the attention that it actually works as well (with minor quirks).
Just re-checked if everything works allright with scrolling on the VOX and Tornado - and it does (my Tornado is on WM6 cooked ROM, so not WM5) and the VOX is with Stock ROM 6.0 - so no problems with scrolling here.
The 7.915 had other side-effects, if I remember right like disconnecting BT-GPS in background, so you can't use it as "voice only". Will have to actually use it in real life to see if it works as reliable as the TT5.2 does (depite the maps are getting really outdated...)
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I'm strictly using the PPC version of TT so there is no such option as “smartphone mode".
The hybrid 7.915 is pretty stable right now except for the "Start-up Preferences" that would always lead to a crash with "Not enough memory" error.
I also found that if you selected your STATE when inputting your HOME LOCATION during initial setup, TT will remain locked to that state (i.e.: only addresses in your specified state will be indexed during searches). The solution I applied was to simply do a "RESET FACTORY SETTINGS" (under Preferences) and select USA when selecting a HOME LOCATION.
It's frustrating to see that TT has yet to come out with a version that is compatible with all smart phones. I guess we shouldn't put all the blame on TT when manufacturers constantly come out with new ways to confuse us with unique button mapping schemes.
I didn't have problems with bluetooth. I think you're talking about automatic disconnections caused by the time-out setting in the phone. On my Samsung JACK, I basically set my phone to never dim the screen nor go back to home screen unless I manually LOCK the keypad. I can even use my BT headset and BT GPS receiver simultaneously connected to the phone. Now, the only time my GPS disconnects is when i get an incoming call. An inconvenience to say the most and hardly an annoyance. The only annoyance is that the battery would be drained if I forget to lock the keypad or if I leave an unanswered call log unattended (screen always on).
CHEERS!
What I mean is that the menus that the very same program (installed on just ONE microSD card) shows are different when I start it on my smartphones (HTC Vox/S710 or HTC Tornado) or on my PocketPC (LG KS20). You may not have noticed this as you are using it on a non-touchscreen device (aka "Smartphone") only.
I cannot do a side-by-side compare easily as the card can only be in either one or the other device...
A sure proof for this is that there is a menu "manage phones" (translated from my German version) on the second page of the main menu. On the PocketPC this is not present.
Also the item "delete route" (PPC on the 3.rd page) is not there when I start it on the smartphone.
Last, the smartphone menus show a digit (1,2,3,5,6) aside a list-like menu item while on the PPC this is a 2x3 icon layout and no digits shown.
Dropping the BT connection if sent to background does not happen on my PPC as well, but this is using a different BT-stack (Widcomm/Broadcom) while my smartphones use the Microsoft BT-stack.
Can you please tell about the menu specialties that I desribed - do you see these as well?
tobbbie said:
What I mean is that the menus that the very same program (installed on just ONE microSD card) shows are different when I start it on my smartphones (HTC Vox/S710 or HTC Tornado) or on my PocketPC (LG KS20). You may not have noticed this as you are using it on a non-touchscreen device (aka "Smartphone") only.
I cannot do a side-by-side compare easily as the card can only be in either one or the other device...
A sure proof for this is that there is a menu "manage phones" (translated from my German version) on the second page of the main menu. On the PocketPC this is not present.
Also the item "delete route" (PPC on the 3.rd page) is not there when I start it on the smartphone.
Last, the smartphone menus show a digit (1,2,3,5,6) aside a list-like menu item while on the PPC this is a 2x3 icon layout and no digits shown.
Dropping the BT connection if sent to background does not happen on my PPC as well, but this is using a different BT-stack (Widcomm/Broadcom) while my smartphones use the Microsoft BT-stack.
Can you please tell about the menu specialties that I desribed - do you see these as well?
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Are you saying that two different interfaces are supported by the same TT version?
Yep, the menu items are numbered exactly like you said.
On Main Menu - page 3, 'Delete Route' option is absent.
Also, I actually never noticed that there is in fact a Manage Phones option on Page 2 of 3. I'm not sure what this option does on my phone because all it does is bring a screen asking "Do you want to connect to "?".
I did use TT Navigator v6 on my HP iPaq hx2495 before. The installation was for touch-screen PPC but I really can't remember all the details. I could go back and have a look, though and even try to run my "hybrid" version on it through an SD adapter.
By the way, I have a 4hz Bluetooth GPS but my TT MAP is being updated at 1HZ. Is there any way to change this setting in TT? 7.450.XXXX used to update the map at 4hz. Perhaps it's not supported by 7.915.xxxx?
Related
Hi just to let you know, TomTom have just released their upgrade from either TomTom Navigator 2 or 3 to Navigator 5. This can be found on their website.
It costs 59 Euros and your getting the whole of europe on cd plus the new software interface.
I've just ordered my copy. Lets hope it doesn't take 5 weeks to arrive :roll:
It can be found here..
http://www.tomtom.com/shop/upgrade.php?action=pda&TT=6148c3366d84713d07ab4770d8adb478
Cheers,
lydiachris
link's gone. You sure that wasn't teh upgrade for tomtom Go?
this one works...
http://www.tomtom.com/shop/upgrade.php?action=pda&TT=06fcb14888137955f86f48863bc37a85
I've ordered one but had no email confirmation... is this normal?
JB
You'll receive it shortly.. I ordered it at 11.56 CET; and received the confirmation an hour later.
I hope it works correctly on WM2005; I know it has the same backlight problem as Tomtom 4.4.
Still says "available soon" there is no upgrade path.
same old tom tom crap!
Oh well, been waiting for the much anticipated version 5, just ordered it, up to 5 weeks to wait!! It's on a bunch of CDs again (probably un-labelled and needing a 2nd navigation programme to find your way around them!!!) what happened to the pre loaded SD cards featured in their test copies?
And then there are still issues with back-lighting & probably SD problems too.
Just pour money down a black hole, get refused activation codes because you've had your phone replaced by the insurance, am I the only one who feels that TomTom is treating us like a load of brainless jerks! I've just gone 6 months without my expensive Nav3 and had to rely on 'Good old' Microsoft and their reliable Autoroute 2005!
GGGRRRRR!
Since I have no GPS< I used to use TT3 as a stand-alone route planner. For some reason I am not able to do this in TT5, since it keeps searching for a GPS signal. Does anyone here now how to use TT5 as a route planner without a GPS attached?
Has anyone actually recived either confirmation of their upgrade being shipped or it being despatched by UPS yet?!?!?!
yeah mines been posted, should be here today or tomorrow...
Cheers,
JB
Recieved and up and running (on diamond 1.2 rom). Works really well, loads of improvements over 3. My only complaint is that you can't customise the menus anymore like you could on 3. BTW it comes with full maps for all of western Europe... bargain!!
JB
No Maps Found Error In Tom Tom Navigator 5
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Hi guys/gals
I got hold of version 5 program upgrade which included the Benelux maps and loaded it up on my PDA but upon running the tom tom shortcut from my Today Screen I get the following error once I have okayed the legal splash screen at the start of the application
'No Maps Found'
It gives me an option to download maps, why is it not picking up the UK one I already have
My UK map is located on my SD card and I was previously running version v4.40 and this picked up the maps without any problem
Anyone have any ideas?
Thanks in advance
tomtom 5 help
Hi All, Ive just up-dated my Mada Compact / XDA Mini / Magician with tomtom 5 navigator.... its very impressive but had a few teething problems so as your always helping me out I thought id post this :
If you have an original tomtom bluetooth GPS reciever and want to up-grade to tomtom 5 but are using tomtom 3, make sure you remove POI (seperate program your speed cam sounds wont work on tomtom 5 you have to select a deafult sound) and remove tomtom 3 completly (I did a hard reset after a load of messing), then bond again with your reciever.... then when you go through the set-up select the tomtom reciever, :lol: then go to the GPS settings in prefernces and make sure you click on the little text that say 'NO GPS device' top left hand corner (its not a button just text), this will prompt you to restart the device... do it and then your GPS reciver should work ok, but if you dont re-start it wont finish the connection. Not sure if im the only one effected by this issue I did a google and nothing came up so if you have problems this should sort them out. I only found out when I was showing the fault to a friend and he clicked the text by accident! apart from that I would definatly recommend tomtom 5 up-grade Maps are much quicker for zoom + and - ... any other questions or help just ask!...
Cheers, James
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Your answer Software Guru
By the way software guru, I think that the reason tomtom 5 is not working is because you have the UK maps on from tomtom 4, these are not compatible with tomtom 5...
I have the uk version of tomtom 5... E-mail :roll: me for further details....
James
I have just got Tom Tom 5 for my M2000 - seems to work ok apart from the fact that the onscreen keyboard function when entering a destination is not there - having to use the slide out keyboard which when driving is a little awkward.
Has anyone else had this problem, and if so, have they managed to fix it? I have recently upgraded the BT stack to 3.9 which has resulted in some things disappearing - - when I soft reset, the folder called 'My' has disappeared and all the contact info and task have to be synchronized.
I also have a number of TT files in the storage memory - would this affect the operation of the onscreen keyboard?
The files in storage memory are
Tom Tom Today
Tom Tom Bluetooth Support
Tom Tom Navigator
Tom Tom Contacts Navigation
Any help greatly appreciated!
Thanks
Rich
hi i have a couple questions :: does tomtom 5 work on a hp pda ??
and some body a idea where i can fund some keys ;-) for the maps
greets
Same Problem with Keyboard
Hi
I have the Same problem with keyboard. The screen keyboard is not there on my XDA2s. Such a problem does not exist with the XDA2.
Also when i upgraded to Windows Mobile 2005, the screen goes black as soon as I open TomTom 5
Any suggesstions with such problems?
Nader
TTN 5 keyboard
There's another (long!) thread running on keyboards. Basically it seems that we have to use the build in keyboard until they release some patches. The shift/Fnc key problems do not occur in the GB 7 digit postcode selection so its usable on that.
Koksie said:
Since I have no GPS< I used to use TT3 as a stand-alone route planner. For some reason I am not able to do this in TT5, since it keeps searching for a GPS signal. Does anyone here now how to use TT5 as a route planner without a GPS attached?
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I'm glad I'm not the only one that fell into TTN's trap! Like me I'm sure you've figured out by now that there is a seperate "Advanced planning" menu that gives you this function and lots more - to be fair it works well with lots of extra options. It's a pity there is not an operating guide that highlights these features - expecially for those used to older versions of the software.
M6 Fan said:
I have just got Tom Tom 5 for my M2000 - seems to work ok apart from the fact that the onscreen keyboard function when entering a destination is not there. Has anyone else had this problem, and if so, have they managed to fix it?
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Me too. And no, don't have a fix. Very annoying. On the other hand, doesn't the TTN5 legal message say that you shouldn't drink and drive? No wait, enter a route and drive? :wink:
Has anyone managed to get tomtom working on wm6?
I cannot for the life of me work out how to stop it crashing after about 20 seconds of it running. Ive tried 5.2.
Well, TomTom 5.2 runs smoothly on my Tornado, using the Fortuna Clip-On Bluetooth GPS receiver. No crashes at all!!!
A latest PPC version of TomTom 6 Navigator (V6.201.7160) works perfect on my SP5 w/ WM6 or WM5.0 before, but the virtual mouse SW i.e. FakeCursor should be used with occasional conditions.
Its really stronger than TT5.
Heres the original package of TT6 (delete the .cfg file unless u like the chinese interface)
and the crack
Enjoy!
Admint edit: Links have been removed warez is not allowed!
How does Fakecursor work?
Everytime i tried to use it, i got problems with the backlight of display.
i cant thank you enough.. thanks for posting this!
what maps work with this? i need a great britian map.
also its very slow, the black screen and red hands splash screen stay on for a good 30 seconds.
i spoke too soon.
it hangs on the screen with the arrow after the hands. like its crashed.
i think i have a memory problem.
i'll try overclocking.
overclocking works. ive managed to get to the screen where you pick your langauge but there is no cursor to select anything!
ive pressed every button and moved my joystick in every angle and i can only change the volume and not pick a language therefor not go on to set up the rest of tomtom.
this is driving me mad
Same problem here. I've managed (after about 30' of waiting, screen after screen) to reached the Time Format selection. Couldn't go further!
Lanny, are you sure that this version runs perfectly?
i cannot get fakecursor working
Guys u should create a shortcut of FakeCursor as long_camera.lnk (or any other button u like) in windows root w/ FakeCursor.exe, NOT in storage card.
Otherwise u cant do anything after TT's logo screen.
This version i posted runs pretty good on my SP5 w/ North American map v.665.1294 for 4 days after i installed the WM6 OS from jm012a9749.
Anyway,its a PPC version,so u must use FakeCursor to change lang., maps and edit the address when u input the wrong one.
You can press hold the camera key to call out the FakeCursor anytime when u use the TT. If u wanna stop it, u can press the home key to go back to the homescreen and press the back arrow to go back to the TT's screen, then the FakeCursor will be cancelled automatically.
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Guys u should create a shortcut of FakeCursor as long_camera.lnk (or any other button u like) in windows root w/ FakeCursor.exe, NOT in storage card.
Otherwise u cant do anything after TT's logo screen.
This version i posted runs pretty good on my SP5 w/ North American map v.665.1294 for 4 days after i installed the WM6 OS from jm012a9749.
Anyway,its a PPC version,so u must use FakeCursor to change lang., maps and edit the address when u input the wrong one.
You can press hold the camera key to call out the FakeCursor anytime when u use the TT. If u wanna stop it, u can press the home key to go back to the homescreen and press the back arrow to go back to the TT's screen, then the FakeCursor will be cancelled automatically.
FakeCursor for Smartphone
This is the FakeCursor w/ shortcut i used on my SP5, try it.
thanks i got another cursor thing working called sphelper. when ive passed all the settings i cannot get bluetooth talking to tomtom with my gps reciver.
'no gps signal'
aha, u should add a new device in phone's bluetooth setting first and create a new outgoing com port for your GPS reciever. After this step, a new com port, usually com6 will be added in TT's bluetooth setting screen. Well, choose it and enjoy!
thanks a lot
i wonder if tomtom will release a smartphone version of tomtom 6 in the not so distant future.. or is it pda only from now on.
I think its no chance to get a separate smartphone version even was told it surport PPC and smartphone platforms with one software when the TT6 was unveiled last year.
I hope the all new TT7 can surport smartphone exactly.
Tomtom 5.20
I had the same problem (Not function TOMTOM 5.20) and I have it solved. Only problem was missing file "CurrentMap.dat" in folder "\\\WinCE Device\My Documents\TomTom\".
TomTom 6 with WM5 & WM6
I read throughout all the postings to find a solution. I installed TomTom 6 v 6.010 (and had it running fine) on my original Tornado (SPV C600 running WM5) using the method described in earlier posts (copy the files manually to the device) I was able to plan routes. No issues here. However, after installing the WM6 rom (and following the same process to install TomTom) the following happens:
- TomTom starts with the black splash screen/red hands
- I get the green warning page where you need to click "Agree" and immediately, the program quits (no time to press the Agree button) and a message pops: "Your device is incompatible with TomTom NAVIGATOR"
Now what is interesting is the following:
- If I revert to WM5 (original Orange ROM) and do the same steps for TomTom, I get the exact same behavior (same message:Your device is incompatible with TomTom NAVIGATOR). BUT if I apply the patch send by Orange Security Unlock (Cab sent by orange for my IMEI), it works fine.
- So, I reinstalled WM6 and tried to apply the same patch, it will not apply and comes up with an error: "You cannot use this CAB file with this device". I thought the reason was maybe because the operator was not showing. So I used TyphoonNBFTools to put back the original operator and reflashed. Same error when applying the patch
_ So next step was to use the change in registry found on spv-developers. That change does an application unlock but still does not allow Tomtom to run. There might be other registry settings that prevents this.
Has anyone found a solution?
Thank you
I have the same problem when i installed TomTom6 in my new WM6 OS first time.
But, after i changed following registry values, everything was fixed. Try it!
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Security\Policies\Policies]
"0000101a"=dword:00000001
"0000101b"=dword:00000001
"00001001"=dword:00000001
"00001005"=dword:00000028 (or40)
By the way, i used the V6.010 at first, now the latest version V6.201 works smoothly on my SP5 w/ WM6 OS.
lanny said:
I have the same problem when i installed TomTom6 in my new WM6 OS first time.
But, after i changed following registry values, everything was fixed. Try it!
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Security\Policies\Policies]
"0000101a"=dword:00000001
"0000101b"=dword:00000001
"00001001"=dword:00000001
"00001005"=dword:00000028 (or40)
By the way, i used the V6.010 at first, now the latest version V6.201 works smoothly on my SP5 w/ WM6 OS.
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Thanks for the info. I wished I waited a bit longer. I ust bricked my phone following instructions at http://www.spv-developers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=7484
Thanks again
hilo,
Just created a new thread for this as its issues are pilling up the other one. i think that thread should be clean and should have only and only contain info about progress on the wm6 rom...
Mods if unnecessary please delete...
Tejas
I would not call it a bug but one of the disadvantages of the ROM is that, similar to these ones which come to Qtek and i-mate, it does not recognise the network settings out of the box but you have to fiddle with them manually. When I use Orange ROMs (and it does not matter if the ROM comes from the UK or Switzerland) everything works with flying colours, despite I do not use any Orange network. Just I have to install Opera Mobile (I hate pocket IE) and voila! Everything works!
Channels don't work.
in india AFAIK channels just provide the cell id i.e the area which i m in... not imp though... no use of channels
ok phil.
if u remove windows update, at least supply it as a cab in the extras folder.
channels don't work.
long pressed side button does not work! it used to start voice note record for the sda and i'd like that to work.
mms.
better camera software. btw htc camera makes the phone SLOW..... not a good one. need an alternate
enable profile switching to silent when long pressing '#' key
default folder for saving pictures on storage card is not my documents\my pictures any more but a lame dcim folder. that would be nice to be changed.
also, sometimes when answering a call, the keyboard stays locked, the call is still on, but the home screen is active and not the call screen.
joystick seems much better but sometimes it doesn't want to work as it should. maybe another driver; if not, this one is good
we need wpa2 for wifi enabled.
also add in the extras folder:
moblue
tcpmp with extra codecs
htc audio manager could be good
if u need the cabs for moblue and htc audio, i have them
there is an newer version of sim manager. v6.10. has a couple of new things (got it if u need it)
and maybe add a good version of opera. not the java one.
we also need a good midlet manager
also a good instant messaging program. maybe a multi client one like oz mobile im, or like im+
mmmhhh after read all this bugs, i better wait a while to update my phone, i find a good idea to write here all the problems with the actually ROM.
Good AD2P drivers
Hi,
Is it possible to have good ad2p drivers with the next rom?
Tomtom 6
I have never been able to run tomtom 6 before the update.
Is it possible now with update? and also which is best version to install?
Kindest regards
I have Push mail configured and GPRS seems to be buggy. once or twice a day GPRS seems to stop working. My Activesync fails with (Can not connect to network or waiting for the network to be available), and in that mode even IE can not connect to any site. I switch off and on the phone function only, GPRS becomes available again.
boneym said:
I have Push mail configured and GPRS seems to be buggy. once or twice a day GPRS seems to stop working. My Activesync fails with (Can not connect to network or waiting for the network to be available), and in that mode even IE can not connect to any site. I switch off and on the phone function only, GPRS becomes available again.
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Actually I would split your post in two separate ones.
1. the instability of WM6 Alpha - obvious thing, and it should be fixed
2. but I also see something else. I see from many posts that one application which sets all the settings with one click is quite urgently needed. I know that something like that exists for Swiss networks http://www.mysmartphone.ch/Freeware/kommunikation/16920.aspx and for the Norwegian ones http://www.smartmobil.no/Article617.phtml but I think that everybody would agree that such an universal solution would be something good. Unfortunately, I do not know anything about programming but I can imagine this kind of program and a separate database. The database would be filled by volunteers - I can, for example, provide all the settings of Polish operators, someone else British, French, etc. It would be good esp. for people who travel a lot.
unlocksmith said:
I have never been able to run tomtom 6 before the update.
Is it possible now with update? and also which is best version to install?
Kindest regards
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TomTom 6 is made for Pocket PCs. It requires a touch screen to work, so you won´t be able to control it. I have had it running on my 8310 but it´s just silly to even have it installed. Go for 5.2 if you can find it.
I have problems syncing my contacts if i have more than 305 contacts.
The ActiveSync (or WMDC) hangs saying "attention required". Though, i can make 305+ contacts on the WM6 and sync them back to Outlook! But backwards i get 305 contact limit. Vey, very strange!
With previous ROM everything was ok.
I tried syncing with different PCs, tried unistalling ActiveSync and WMDC - no use. Deleting pim.vol doesn't help too.
ActiveSync on WM6 gives me 0x8503001c error.
Thanks for your help. I got my old one to work. I really like the colours in tomtom 6 tho.
Also on my phone i have a problem(s) with tomtom 5, I cant type in the post code B8 followed by anything like B8 3NU. Also I can't use certain Points Of Interest such as hospitals or cash dispensers. These work fine on my Wizard but I wana be able to do it all with TORNADO!
The software of dual sim selector don't works with that new rom (adapter of 10ª generation).
Well, I don't know if it works; the soft does not appear by any side.
I proved several solutions, but no it has worked to me.
Somebody can help me?
Thanks.
tejasphatak please rename the topic to "WM6 Torando bugs/issues" , so we can generally post bugs/issues regarding all WM6 tornado roms
Bugs:
1. The locklevel change to 1 randomly..
2. Sometimes the phone freeze when unloking kepyad.
It happened two times.
Issues:
1. When playing audio the CPU load is ~ 25-30% (@180 Mhz). It is normal ? (can someone with WM5 test?)
If using EQ and other effects the CPU load increase.
A taskmanager with cpu load info can be found here (it's for PPC but works also ,somehow, on smartphones)
More CPU load = more power = less battery
2. The system lags while writing to storage card (big cards, > 1gb). This issue is present on WM5 Tornado roms too (except iphone rom wich seems to deal better with sd).
Need a beter SD driver .
Same when copying via ActiveSync (has anyone tried usbfn driver from HTC VOX?)
3. when TCPMP is playing audio it keeps the backlight alive
Using andot's PEE V6.
bsider said:
I have problems syncing my contacts if i have more than 305 contacts.
The ActiveSync (or WMDC) hangs saying "attention required". Though, i can make 305+ contacts on the WM6 and sync them back to Outlook! But backwards i get 305 contact limit. Vey, very strange!
With previous ROM everything was ok.
I tried syncing with different PCs, tried unistalling ActiveSync and WMDC - no use. Deleting pim.vol doesn't help too.
ActiveSync on WM6 gives me 0x8503001c error.
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Hello,
I've got a similar problem to this. It used to work fine until last week. I can't remember changing anything in my Hard/software setup but now it just hangs and only some of the contacts sync.
I've searched in the forum but can't seem to find any other reference to this problem. If anyone knows a solution (or any discussion of it) please let me know. Basic device info below:
SPV m3100 (HTC TyTN) running WM6
Windows Vista Home Basic
Windows Mobile Device Center
Thanks.
I have had several problems with TomTom Navigator 6 (installed from HTC Touch Cruise CD). Using USA/Canada complete map purchased from TomTom.
History
1. The "Turn on sound" setting in Change Preferences does not stay set to on. Every time I start TomTom, the sound is turned off.
2. After a destination has been selected, the voice directions are incomplete. TomTom will say "After 100 yards..." rather than "After 100 yards, turn right". TomTom NEVER indicates what direction to turn in advance of the turn. It will tell you which direction to turn when you are at the point of turning, but never in advance.
3. I have a problem when selecting a contact as the destination. Click "Navigate to..." then "Contact", then scroll through my contacts and make a selection. In the vast majority of cases, Navigate to returns the address with the street number AFTER the street name rather than before it.
Thus TomTom returns:
Main Steet 134, Bryn Mawr
The address given for this contact can't be understood. Would you like to enter the address yourself?
All of my contacts are synced from Outlook/Exchange and are all set up correctly. This bug renders the Navigate to Contact fetaure useless.
First follow-Up
I finally got around to call TomTom regarding these problems and I am not happy with their response!
According to TomTom, the HTC Touch Cruise is not on their supported list. That's correct folks, not supported. Doesn't matter that it comes packaged with the TC, it's not supported. Blame HTC (they say) for including the license with an unsupported device.
The technician suggested that I downgrade to Navigator 6 V6.030 which supposedly addresses my issues. I did the downgrade and determined that:
1. The sound setting still is not maintained. In fact, it now required that I press Turn on Sound twice for this feature to work.
2. I am still not getting the complete voice response, only "After 1/8 mile..." No turn left or turn right. TomTom said I should reformat my memory card and reinstall app and maps and that MIGHT help. Well, I'm, not going to go through all of that unless I know it will work, too many other things on the memory card to deal with.
3. Navigate to.. Contacts now actually seems to work! But the ironic thing is that TomTom told me that the Navigate to... Contacts feature is ENTIRELY UNSUPPORTED even though it is in their software! They claim it was never completed and therefore not supported.
This is absurd. The hardware is not supported by the software that it was bundled with, and the software itself has features that are not even supported by the developer.
Second follow-Up
I uninstalled and reinstalled TomTom 6.032 from the CD. Also uninstalled and reinstalled the maps.
1. Default sound setting seems to have been fixed.
2. Still have the problem with incomplete audio directions ("In 1/8 mile...)
3. Navigate to Contacts also seems to be working though not tested extensively.
Am I the only user with this TomTom oddity? Why on earth will it not state the entire direction? TomTom has been no help, anyone here have any ideas?
I cannot say this for the US/Canada maps but for the Benelux/Western Europe maps, the directions are OK and I don't encounter your problem.
I'm using the default Dutch voice in version 6.032.
Try a hard reset and install tomtom again on the clean rom, see what happens with that.
German maps work fine, too. I'm using Lisa (as a speaker , who is more or less Tom Tom default I believe.
Sound settings are kept correctly.
Version 6.032
I don't have any problems with TomTom either.
IF you want to try some other voices, you could drop me a PM and we'll "arrange" so you can get them from me (got a package of many different voices)
Kimma said:
I don't have any problems with TomTom either.
IF you want to try some other voices, you could drop me a PM and we'll "arrange" so you can get them from me (got a package of many different voices)
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I was preparing to hard reset my TC (last resort) when I figured that there was nothing to lose by changing the voice. I did, and it worked! Never would occur to me that the voice selection would have any impact on this problem.
But, unfortunately, the problem with keeoing the default sound setting has returned. Each time I start TomTom, the sound is off. ARGH!
Anyway, thank you for steering me in the right direction. Hopefully this one issue is now put to bed.
Nice to be able to help
maybe you could be so kind reading my thread and answer it? (since it seems i'm the only one in this forum that actually owns a TC *cough cough*)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=382568
I get exactly the same problem with the sound. I have an XDA Orbit II, sound in TomTom always off, have to keep changing it, removed it, I use Co-Pilot and Navigon now, both are great.
RE: Sound problem
I have the same problem with the sound and it was bugging the hell out of me too. Speaking to a friend of mine who has the same problem, apparently it is due to a known bug in the current TomTom release: If you have a data connection open when you start TomTom, it thinks you are in the middle of a voice call and mutes the sound. My friend also informed me that there should be a new release from TomTom soon that addresses the issue. I don't have any links but there may well be another thread somewhere on this forum about it if you search.
The sound on my TomTom will occassionally turns itself off and requires it to be turned on TWICE to work again. I think its a known bug. The problem used to be worse on my P3600/Trinity.
Update- from the kaiser forum http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=330235
It's a bug, you have to switch off the data connection before starting TomTom.
SIMPLE FIX: Roll the volume wheel and sound turns on.
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might also work on the Trinity?
My friend also informed me that there should be a new release from TomTom soon that addresses the issue
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Sure? Rumour has it on GPS-specific forums that TomTom are not actively working on updating Nav6 (for PDAs) because its too much like hard work; much more revenue in (simpiler) dedicated units which are more stable
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I have the same problem with the sound and it was bugging the hell out of me too. Speaking to a friend of mine who has the same problem, apparently it is due to a known bug in the current TomTom release: If you have a data connection open when you start TomTom, it thinks you are in the middle of a voice call and mutes the sound. My friend also informed me that there should be a new release from TomTom soon that addresses the issue. I don't have any links but there may well be another thread somewhere on this forum about it if you search.
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Interesting. Prior to launching TomTom, I used Comm Manager to turn off the data connection. When TT launched, sound is indeed on! When sound is off as a result of an active data connection), using the volume slider on the TC does not turn the sound on. Seems like the only way it to go to settings and select Sound On twice.
Hopefully TomTom will correct this bug. May also try downgrading to 6.030 to see if that works but I don't know what features I'd be losing (if any).
It seems that with this new build of TomTom 7 smartphones are supported now !!!
The problem with earlier releases was that you couldn't scroll down to select the second, third etc line. This now works. Great news. but...
I installed it on a HTC Tornado (qtek 8310) and it works fine. The problem on the S710 is again the backlight going off after a while. Dit anyone try this new version already and do you have the same problem with the backlight?
I know there was a program called Kahuna TTn6 Focufix.cab to keep the focus on the program. maybe this works? I will try to find this program and see if it helps. Maybe we have to modify the key HKCU\Control Panel\Power\Display again?
I hope some of you can help me find a sollution, so we all can use the newest TomTom version on our Vox !
I found the TTn6 Focufix.cab, but this doesn't work.
I did find a workaround: I set the display time-out when on ac power to never. This works. So when I am in the car the battery is charged and the display stays on.
TomTom 7.915 on Fireburner custom ROM 1.0
I am using TomTom 7.915 since I install the custom ROM from fireburner.
This release works on S710 but with same limitation/problem, but you can select the different icon of the menu without any problem. The navigation can be vertical with the phone close, or horizontal if you have the keyboard open.
These are the Four main problem I have found, and the solution I have use to work around:
1. Backlight going off. When I am using it I plug the phone with the power supply, otherwise battery go away immediately after you arrive at destination or when you are close to it. I solve this problem in the "Settings"+"power Management", and select "never" in "Display time out on AC"
2. Backlight always on after use TomTom. I run an application free that you can download from http://www.tgmaker.com/mobile/
3. Input a destination. The two keyboard of the S710 works, but only with number when present. I means that with the number keyboard TomTom take only the numbers, and with the Qwerty will take the letter if they are alone and the numbers if on the key have both. Same problem was in Opera mini, and you can solve in the menu settings.
Sol. A
I solve this problem saving a contact with the address, and select the destination to contact.
Sol. B
You can browse all the city and the street, you must have a lot of time, or if you know the ZIP code the search became faster.
Sol. C
Fakecursor works but are more the disadvantage that the benefits. When you run it you can use only it, and all the shortcuts with the keyboard doesn't work. I prefer plan the destination and recall them after.
4. Selection: When in the display you have only two possibility there are no problem, but when they are more, the option in the middle are difficult to select. I have find the possibility to select using shift+same key, but I found it very uncomfortable.
Now a challenge to the expert!!
My colleagues use TomTom 7.915 on Experia X1, and you can select all the function using only the keyboard. I have seen also a Touch Pro working very fine with it. The two device have different layout (4 and 5 lines) and the software is working perfectly. I was thinking that most probably TomTom call some driver install on the device for the keyboard layout and allow the software to run properly. My device have a fb custom ROM, and I have a stupid idea which maybe work! If we save the driver of the S710 with the same name of the driver TomTom is looking for the layout keyboard, may be we can use both the keyboard.
I know is a strange idea, but I cannot test since I don't know which driver TomTom is looking for when start up.
Bye
are you sure of number 2? I know that tomtom mobile 5 makes the reg key value HKCU\Control panel\Power\Display if it doesn't exist and set the value to 0 after closing tomtom. I don't think tomtom 7 has the same behaviour. Can you try removing the Display value and see if tomtom 7 creates it again.
number3: I didn't have this experience. I do use another rom. Maybe it has to do with enabling the T9 setting of the keyboard? I can use the number keyboard to make letters and select the right city and street.
number 4: good point. I hope somebody knows this
did some more tests just to be sure:
1. problem is the display goes out after a while. workaround is to set the display timeout in the poweroptions to never when on ac power.
2. tomtom7 doesn't make the value Display after closing, so the ptoblem doesn't exist. (there may be other programs that cause this problem, but it is not related to tomtom7)
3. when using the number-keypad all works fine. when using the full-keyboard there is a problem with the keys also used for numbers (like E R T Y). you get numbers when pressing these keys... I like the idea of whanging the keyboard-layout/driver somehow...
4. I don't really understand what you mean. selecting what?
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I found the TTn6 Focufix.cab, but this doesn't work.
I did find a workaround: I set the display time-out when on ac power to never. This works. So when I am in the car the battery is charged and the display stays on.
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TTn6 Focufix is to prevent Tomtom 6 to go back to today screen on smartphones after a while
walram said:
did some more tests just to be sure:
1. problem is the display goes out after a while. workaround is to set the display timeout in the poweroptions to never when on ac power.
2. tomtom7 doesn't make the value Display after closing, so the ptoblem doesn't exist. (there may be other programs that cause this problem, but it is not related to tomtom7)
3. when using the number-keypad all works fine. when using the full-keyboard there is a problem with the keys also used for numbers (like E R T Y). you get numbers when pressing these keys... I like the idea of whanging the keyboard-layout/driver somehow...
4. I don't really understand what you mean. selecting what?
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Dear walram
I am sorry but I discover that I was running the TTN7.910.9185_vga_black for the Diamond.
I download the new version and I confirm that is working on S710.
1. Ok I have done the same
2. You are right for this point, no need tools for the backlight.
3. Number-keypad all works fine in this version, problem with the qwerty keyboard is still present.
4. In version 9196 the graphic is totally different, in not just a matter of resolution and I believe was developed for specific device. If you press center key pad 6+5 you can see the version of Tomtom , and you have 3 possibility
- copyrigth
- account
- done
I am not able to select Account.
During the installation I was not able to select the correct com port, since look like the cursor was not enable to move, or this version was designed for COM9. I copy the *.exe and *.chk file on the old installation and is fine.
I believe that this version take out from the lolite is the most suitable for the s710. Then finally for who love TomTom, at least they should try it, since interface is almost the same of 5.2 for SP and the overall function looks ok.
If I found bugs or problem I will post later in this section.
Bye
i see what you mean with point 4. I don;t know a sollution for that, but i think you don't really need it for daily use. i could select the right com-port (com 6). installed it on 5 devices already, no problem.
the only bug i found so far is when starting the demo for a route the buttons are switched. so the "ok" and "cancel" are switched. just that you know...
it would be nice if somebody can fix the full-keyboard layout problem... it seems a problem with the s710?
it would also be nice if somebody can write a simple program that creates the registry key to keep the display on when the program is running, and delete the key when tomtom is closed. anybody?
i could select the right com-port (com 6). installed it on 5 devices already, no problem.
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I'm NOT a big fan of TOM TOM but I've tried for the first time to figure out this problem and so far I totally agree with Dom_LC
COM selection is locked IMHO. I've tried to edit navigator.cfg to use COM7.... DONE...but it was useless
then I tried to add COM9 to my Bluetooth outgoing ports...it was selectable but obviously the system was unable to create the port.
I tried also to mix data file with the exe to see wath's what ...useless.
Tried fakecursor and eCursor...they worked everywhere but in the COM selction MEnu.
well, that's kind a strange isn't it? can you use the up and down-button when selecting a city and when selecting a road? are you using version 7.915 and not 7.910?
Sure! and I'l tell you something more interesting also when composing the destination I can't scroll from the vorious suggestions that are indexed along when you are typing (the only that is always selected is the first in the list as for the COM ports)...so the only way is to write the exact name
interesting. so maybe there are more versions of the 7.915 around? something to do with the rom?
anyway i can scroll from the vorious suggestions everywhere. Maybe i should send you my version and see what it does on your vox.
I had the following files:
ttn7.915.9196.qvga_black.cab
ttn7.915.9196.qvga_blue.cab
ttn7.915.9196.vga_black.cab
i installed the middle one.
a did find a bug, so it seems. How do you select a differect country when typing a city? On a PDA you can select the country on the right side of the screen. but how does it work on a smartphone? eg. I am from the netherlands and the only city's i can select are from the netherlands. In earlier versions of tomtom all city's of europe were in the same list. can anyone confirm this bug?
Yep Walram, this bug is on my StarTrek too, TT started in Belgium for me and i had no clue how to change the country to Netherlands, so i navigated to one of my dutch contacts and that did the trick, so, maybe a bit odd, but you could add a fake contact in the country of your choice to end up over there.
Nevertheless....this is an inconvenient bug since it doesn't allow you to travel or plan through whole of Europe
i wonder if the selection of country is in the map or in the application. eg. if we install an old map (version 7 or 6) do you get 1 list with all city's of europe?
so tomtom has some work to do again to fix this bug.
if you remove the mapsettings.cfg in the map-directory before starting tomtom you get the question once to wich country you want to navigate
so, a little, workaround. you also loose your home adres and favoutites i guess...
but it works... just that you know
well, that's kind a strange isn't it? can you use the up and down-button when selecting a city and when selecting a road? are you using version 7.915 and not 7.910?
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I tried blue and black version. I think it was black wich did not let me select something with the up and down keys. So try both versions.
By the way installation failed every time on my Vox (Rose v.0.4)
So I extracted the files with win ce extractor, putted them on the root of the SD card and all went well.
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I tried blue and black version. I think it was black wich did not let me select something with the up and down keys. So try both versions.
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I Can Confirm that! Smartphone users can take advantages ONLY from the blue one! And this ends my adventure with tom tom.
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i have a vox with original ROM (mobile 6) and i can't install the tomtom... it start the cab and suddenly stops and go back to home screen...
does anyone can help me... I've tried the qvga version black and the ttn7.915.9196.qvga_blue_cuckoo.cab. both do the same thing.... they start and suddendly stop...
the install bar doesn´t move, and the waiting color circle disappears and go back to home screen...
can you put here the link to the version you have for me to try??
thank you and sorry for my bad english....
It's for PPC, you can't instaqll on a Smartphone, so you have to use this method
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3224919&postcount=776
TheBo said:
It's for PPC, you can't instaqll on a Smartphone, so you have to use this method
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3224919&postcount=776
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i try it but i can't copy the shortcut.... said i can't do it... any alternative method to copy it...
thank you...