Problems with TomTom Navigator 6 on Polaris - Touch Cruise General

I have had several problems with TomTom Navigator 6 (installed from HTC Touch Cruise CD). Using USA/Canada complete map purchased from TomTom.
History
1. The "Turn on sound" setting in Change Preferences does not stay set to on. Every time I start TomTom, the sound is turned off.
2. After a destination has been selected, the voice directions are incomplete. TomTom will say "After 100 yards..." rather than "After 100 yards, turn right". TomTom NEVER indicates what direction to turn in advance of the turn. It will tell you which direction to turn when you are at the point of turning, but never in advance.
3. I have a problem when selecting a contact as the destination. Click "Navigate to..." then "Contact", then scroll through my contacts and make a selection. In the vast majority of cases, Navigate to returns the address with the street number AFTER the street name rather than before it.
Thus TomTom returns:
Main Steet 134, Bryn Mawr
The address given for this contact can't be understood. Would you like to enter the address yourself?
All of my contacts are synced from Outlook/Exchange and are all set up correctly. This bug renders the Navigate to Contact fetaure useless.
First follow-Up
I finally got around to call TomTom regarding these problems and I am not happy with their response!
According to TomTom, the HTC Touch Cruise is not on their supported list. That's correct folks, not supported. Doesn't matter that it comes packaged with the TC, it's not supported. Blame HTC (they say) for including the license with an unsupported device.
The technician suggested that I downgrade to Navigator 6 V6.030 which supposedly addresses my issues. I did the downgrade and determined that:
1. The sound setting still is not maintained. In fact, it now required that I press Turn on Sound twice for this feature to work.
2. I am still not getting the complete voice response, only "After 1/8 mile..." No turn left or turn right. TomTom said I should reformat my memory card and reinstall app and maps and that MIGHT help. Well, I'm, not going to go through all of that unless I know it will work, too many other things on the memory card to deal with.
3. Navigate to.. Contacts now actually seems to work! But the ironic thing is that TomTom told me that the Navigate to... Contacts feature is ENTIRELY UNSUPPORTED even though it is in their software! They claim it was never completed and therefore not supported.
This is absurd. The hardware is not supported by the software that it was bundled with, and the software itself has features that are not even supported by the developer.
Second follow-Up
I uninstalled and reinstalled TomTom 6.032 from the CD. Also uninstalled and reinstalled the maps.
1. Default sound setting seems to have been fixed.
2. Still have the problem with incomplete audio directions ("In 1/8 mile...)
3. Navigate to Contacts also seems to be working though not tested extensively.
Am I the only user with this TomTom oddity? Why on earth will it not state the entire direction? TomTom has been no help, anyone here have any ideas?

I cannot say this for the US/Canada maps but for the Benelux/Western Europe maps, the directions are OK and I don't encounter your problem.
I'm using the default Dutch voice in version 6.032.
Try a hard reset and install tomtom again on the clean rom, see what happens with that.

German maps work fine, too. I'm using Lisa (as a speaker , who is more or less Tom Tom default I believe.
Sound settings are kept correctly.
Version 6.032

I don't have any problems with TomTom either.
IF you want to try some other voices, you could drop me a PM and we'll "arrange" so you can get them from me (got a package of many different voices)

Kimma said:
I don't have any problems with TomTom either.
IF you want to try some other voices, you could drop me a PM and we'll "arrange" so you can get them from me (got a package of many different voices)
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I was preparing to hard reset my TC (last resort) when I figured that there was nothing to lose by changing the voice. I did, and it worked! Never would occur to me that the voice selection would have any impact on this problem.
But, unfortunately, the problem with keeoing the default sound setting has returned. Each time I start TomTom, the sound is off. ARGH!
Anyway, thank you for steering me in the right direction. Hopefully this one issue is now put to bed.

Nice to be able to help
maybe you could be so kind reading my thread and answer it? (since it seems i'm the only one in this forum that actually owns a TC *cough cough*)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=382568

I get exactly the same problem with the sound. I have an XDA Orbit II, sound in TomTom always off, have to keep changing it, removed it, I use Co-Pilot and Navigon now, both are great.

RE: Sound problem
I have the same problem with the sound and it was bugging the hell out of me too. Speaking to a friend of mine who has the same problem, apparently it is due to a known bug in the current TomTom release: If you have a data connection open when you start TomTom, it thinks you are in the middle of a voice call and mutes the sound. My friend also informed me that there should be a new release from TomTom soon that addresses the issue. I don't have any links but there may well be another thread somewhere on this forum about it if you search.

The sound on my TomTom will occassionally turns itself off and requires it to be turned on TWICE to work again. I think its a known bug. The problem used to be worse on my P3600/Trinity.
Update- from the kaiser forum http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=330235
It's a bug, you have to switch off the data connection before starting TomTom.
SIMPLE FIX: Roll the volume wheel and sound turns on.
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might also work on the Trinity?
My friend also informed me that there should be a new release from TomTom soon that addresses the issue
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Sure? Rumour has it on GPS-specific forums that TomTom are not actively working on updating Nav6 (for PDAs) because its too much like hard work; much more revenue in (simpiler) dedicated units which are more stable

peace2make said:
I have the same problem with the sound and it was bugging the hell out of me too. Speaking to a friend of mine who has the same problem, apparently it is due to a known bug in the current TomTom release: If you have a data connection open when you start TomTom, it thinks you are in the middle of a voice call and mutes the sound. My friend also informed me that there should be a new release from TomTom soon that addresses the issue. I don't have any links but there may well be another thread somewhere on this forum about it if you search.
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Interesting. Prior to launching TomTom, I used Comm Manager to turn off the data connection. When TT launched, sound is indeed on! When sound is off as a result of an active data connection), using the volume slider on the TC does not turn the sound on. Seems like the only way it to go to settings and select Sound On twice.
Hopefully TomTom will correct this bug. May also try downgrading to 6.030 to see if that works but I don't know what features I'd be losing (if any).

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HTC Bluetooth Hot Fix

Hi,
HTC today posted a hot fix for bluetooth at their e-Club.
Description:
Bluetooth Hot Fix (for HTC TyTN II)
Dropped calls sometimes occur when Bluetooth is on. If you encountered the same problem, please download this Bluetooth Hot Fix and install it on your device.
Br,
Mads
Downloaded it from HTc.cOM
Installation instructions
Follow the instructions below to download and install the hot fix on your device:
Make sure you have Microsoft ActiveSync® installed on your Windows XP PC or Windows Mobile Device Center on your Windows Vista® PC. You can find Microsoft ActiveSync from this link or Windows Mobile Device Center from this link.
Connect and synchronize your device with your PC via Microsoft ActiveSync® or Windows Mobile Device Center using the USB cable.
To download thehot fix, first select the check box below. Next, select thehot fix and the desired FTP site then click Download.
Copy the hot fix, which is a cab file, to your device.
To install the hot fix, tap the cab file and follow the on-screen instructions.
Here is the file:
http://rapidshare.com/files/77588898/TyTNII_BT_Hotfix.zip
Enjoy,
Nadavi
Extracted madsnm's posted cab, which is the same as nadavi's. This is a replacement file for OEM\OEMDrivers\TIInit_4_2_38.bts (a.k.a. \windows\TIInit_4_2_38.bts for non-chefs).
I've re-attached it as the naked file (without the cab installer or the self-extracting exe installer).
Any decent chef should be able to figure out how to turn a single file into an OEM package
Edit: Forgot to add that there are no registry entries, as I've already created registry dumps before/after install...
Edit3: It *IS* the same as the one in the AT&T 1.60 ROM. I did a file compare and there are no binary differences.
Although I am not having any problems as mentioned in the fix log, but the idea of HTC releasing something for us is great .
taiseer999 said:
Although I am not having any problems as mentioned in the fix log, but the idea of HTC releasing something for us is great .
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Thats right!
Waiting for WM6.1 ROM! or maybe new WM06 Full Touch rom from HTC....
Just my two Cents....
Nadavi
Nadavi said:
Thats right!
Waiting for WM6.1 ROM! or maybe new WM06 Full Touch rom from HTC....
Just my two Cents....
Nadavi
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well, 6.1 ROM doesnt really looks appealing to me, i believe most of us would want our freaking D3D driver to improve our kaiser speed.
come'on HTC, give us our driver. We want our kaiser to work @ its full potential!
almost forgot, to the brothers at the top 3 post, THANKS for sharing!
Solved my "bad" connection to the BT carset - thx....
ruffruff said:
well, 6.1 ROM doesnt really looks appealing to me, i believe most of us would want our freaking D3D driver to improve our kaiser speed.
come'on HTC, give us our driver. We want our kaiser to work @ its full potential!
almost forgot, to the brothers at the top 3 post, THANKS for sharing!
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OT but the driver is there. Look here for more info. There's also an XDA thread on this. We just need to tweak it out for general purpose acceleration.
Sleuth255 said:
OT but the driver is there. Look here for more info. There's also an XDA thread on this. We just need to tweak it out for general purpose acceleration.
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It doesn't say much if they hacked something for Coreplayer, or it was a general fix from HTC for all Windows Mobile devices running the MSM chipset.
Would be nice if the Kaiser was as snappy as that dual-keyboard Pantech running WM6 Standard.
I'm at loss to say if all the UI (and general system) lag is from too much use of .NET, lack of hardware accelerated graphics drivers, or Pro just runs slower than Standard because of the touch-screen support.
Hmm...wonder why i didn't get an email from the e-Club about this. I log into the site and find the fix just fine but I thought I'm supposed to get a notification about it (i'm pretty positive that was my preference when signing up)
Anyway, does this hot fix help in pairing bluetooth with car kits and devices that had problems or were incompatible thus far.
I've never experienced dropped calls with my BT connection, but I do have another problem that is pissing me off.
I have two different Pioneer stereos in two different vehicles. The AVIC-Z1 and the Premier DEH-P980BT.
When I first try to initiate a call with the 980, the connection is made, but the audio is somewhere in limbo between the phone and car speakers. There is a BT connection, but it takes about a minute and a half to actually start sounding through the speakers. By that time, the receiving end has hung up.
Since it only happens for the first call of the ride, I've been getting in the car, calling my voicemail, and waiting until I can hear the voicemail prompts. After that, I can make and receive call normally until I shut the car off.
If this fixes the problem I'm having, I'll be ecstatic.
Hi,
I have no noticable problems with BT exept the sound quality. Will be anything better or maybe worst if I install this upgrade? Does anybody have experience on it?
Thx
Mikus
NuShrike said:
It doesn't say much if they hacked something for Coreplayer, or it was a general fix from HTC for all Windows Mobile devices running the MSM chipset.
Would be nice if the Kaiser was as snappy as that dual-keyboard Pantech running WM6 Standard.
I'm at loss to say if all the UI (and general system) lag is from too much use of .NET, lack of hardware accelerated graphics drivers, or Pro just runs slower than Standard because of the touch-screen support.
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Sounds like they had to change something with the drivers. So they're there but poorly implemented. And sounds like they'll give us driver info once its released. I'll buy it if it fixes the D3D support!
Still garbled on my Tilt with an Infinity G35..now how do I deleted the Kai6492_HotFix from my Programs directory? I can't see to find it...yet the icon is still there. Any one know?
Flapjack said:
I've never experienced dropped calls with my BT connection, but I do have another problem that is pissing me off.
I have two different Pioneer stereos in two different vehicles. The AVIC-Z1 and the Premier DEH-P980BT.
When I first try to initiate a call with the 980, the connection is made, but the audio is somewhere in limbo between the phone and car speakers. There is a BT connection, but it takes about a minute and a half to actually start sounding through the speakers. By that time, the receiving end has hung up.
Since it only happens for the first call of the ride, I've been getting in the car, calling my voicemail, and waiting until I can hear the voicemail prompts. After that, I can make and receive call normally until I shut the car off.
If this fixes the problem I'm having, I'll be ecstatic.
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here's what causes that issue on my phone:
hit the ms voice command button and hear the beep prompt.
now hold the button down till you get the cancel beep.
now make a call. you will get no audio either direction.
turn the phone off, and the sound starts working. turn it back on and it's gone again.
key the ms voicecommand button again and let the time expire instead of holding to cancel.
make another call, and the audio will be fine, except for a 5 to 10 second delay.
see if this is how your phone behaves also. if I don't ever cancel a ms voicecommand by holding the button down, everything seems to work fine.
After installing the "fix" I could no longer use voice dial with any of my bluetooth headsets. Uninstalling the fix fixed it.....go figure.....
I think that HTC really need to have more, serious, knowledgable beta testers to tryout this stuff with various software and hardware scenarios before releasing the device. Some of these "bloggers" that they send new, unreleased devices to are either cronies or don't know much, or will not test the devices thoroughly and/or report back to HTC what problems that they experienced. I am a Verizon and AT&T user. Have seen these anamolies between diferent devices for some time now. The Mogul and XV6800 don't have the same issues we have, however, I guarantee you they do have others such as the De-activated GPS flaw that happened recently in the Mogul.
Unfortunately my Kaiser didn't work still with this hotfix. I installed on my device few times, I rebooted the headset and nothing. Probably it's like that because my ROM is 1.83, it's original polish version of it. How can I resolve the problem of bt headset ?
The fix file is a CAB (download from HTC e-club)... I install the CAB and find a link under software menu... I tap it... and another installation is done... I must soft reset the device... and stop...
Okai... so I think in this way the fix is gone... but... I have yet the cab installed under Software CAB and Installed application... can I uninstall it? The trashes pissing me :-D
or for att users go here....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/search.php?searchid=8811535

[Q] Does Raphael have the same GPS lag as Diamond?

Hi guys,
I think the subject says it all...
I have a Diamond which suffers from serious GPS lag (not fix!). This means that when I'm driving, my car is always up to 50m ahead of what TomTom or IGO tells me that I am...
I'm thinking about changing my device as nobody seems to know the cause of this...
So, I wonder if Rapheal has the same issue or not...
HastaSSSS
Here's what i tested for you on the way to work...
Using TomTom6 (6.032), driving at 30mph, using the tip if the blue arrow as my position (same as i always used on TytnII) i would say my car was no more than 5m behind were i should be. No issue going down the right road or turn.
Same situation as johnk1973. No 50 meters lag, but aprox. 5 meters.
Same problem here on Raphael, TT7 is 50 meters behind. Will test it tonight if it also occurs with TT6.
Same here with tt7 and igo8....
Now this is going to get complicated....
I had Diamond before and NEVER experienced GPS lag.
I tried almost every official and cooked ROM and had no problems with GPS.
Recently I switched to Raphael....
And guess what... GPS lag !
I used my Diamond and Raphael in identical conditions, with the same app (iGO 8).
I'll try to test it more.
I'll post if I find anything useful to you.
Cheers,
Sh*t...that means Raphael is a "no go" for me...
Unless we solve the problem...whatever it might be...
Please keep on posting your findings about this issue...I like very much Diamond and Diamond Pro....but I'm not willing to have a device without 100% functionality...
HastaSSSS
I have a Touch Pro with iGo8 installed. I realised this "50m lag" on my business trip this Monday but I thought it was due to the speed of the car (I was driving very fast for the most of the time). Now I see the problem might be a little more complicated.
On the other hand the 50m is not so bad - I never had a wrong turn, the acoustic signalization of iGo8 is very good. Nevertheless, I would be glad if this could be fixed...
And another thing - I'm not sure if you are aware of the charging problem while using GPS. My Touch Pro actually stopped charging because of overheating and was running only on the battery. So be aware of this fact too.
But this is a different issue, I'm sure there is a thread for this.
I dont have the problem with TT6.
I second this issue, both with TT7 and IGO8 (haven't tried it with another one yet)
Guys I had GPS lag on TT7 when I fist used it (Only tried it for 5min) it was awful. Mainly everytime I turned a corner whilst driving.
Then I did the following changes:
\start\settings\system\external GPS -> Set GPS Program port COM4; Hardware NONE; Access Manage GPS automatically.
Hit ok, wait 10 secs, switch off the device and then soft reset.
Now go to TT7 change the GPS prefences, to use bluetooth device and selected COM4.
No my GPS is perfect now, no problems at all. Have tried it with two different ROMs and no problems.
I have TT7 installed on the main memory and the maps on an Sandisk 8GB Class 4 SDHC card.
Radio ROM is 1.02.25.19 if that helps? and AGPS is turned on a up-to-date.
BTW it was exactly the same when using google maps.
Did you also try it by just setting tomtom gps to bluetooth? I'll give that a shot anyway before going into the register... tnx for the tip
Please keep in mind that you'll get an update of your past position only once per second. This means: The faster your velocity the more inexact the position will be, because the distance you'll pass in this second becomes longer and longer:
@30kmph: ~8m
@50kmph: ~14m
@80kmph: ~22m
@100kmph: ~27m
@130kmph: ~36m
Additionally there is the inaccuracy which comes with GPS: In good times you may have ~10m divergence on average. But with weaker signal (which one may have driving in a city) it will become even more. So keep in mind that GPS will tell you, where you've been one second ago (plus the divergence).
By the time I get my Diamond Pro, I'll collate this at the same time with my X500, which has a build in Sirf3 receiver.
I am having a slightly different issue with my TP using iGuidance 4. Although the unit aquires a signal faster than any other device I have used in the past, it seems to lag or freeze as I drive. It will not update the time, speed or position unless I press a button or something on the screen. There is another thread on XDA (I think in the Diamond or Kaiser sections) that claims to have solved this issue, but the fix doesn't work on my Touch Pro (in fact it completely freezes my iGuidance requiring a soft reset).
Hi,
I'm using Ndrive and TomTom 7.
on NDrive I don't have any problem, it's fast.
on TomTom is slow..
I thing the problem is on TomTom using this GPS of Raphael.
WizP said:
Guys I had GPS lag on TT7 when I fist used it (Only tried it for 5min) it was awful. Mainly everytime I turned a corner whilst driving.
Then I did the following changes:
\start\settings\system\external GPS -> Set GPS Program port COM4; Hardware NONE; Access Manage GPS automatically.
Hit ok, wait 10 secs, switch off the device and then soft reset.
Now go to TT7 change the GPS prefences, to use bluetooth device and selected COM4.
No my GPS is perfect now, no problems at all. Have tried it with two different ROMs and no problems.
I have TT7 installed on the main memory and the maps on an Sandisk 8GB Class 4 SDHC card.
Radio ROM is 1.02.25.19 if that helps? and AGPS is turned on a up-to-date.
BTW it was exactly the same when using google maps.
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these settings are the settings that are preset. Hence nothing changed. the lag on the diamond is bad but this is awful.
WizP said:
Guys I had GPS lag on TT7 when I fist used it (Only tried it for 5min) it was awful. Mainly everytime I turned a corner whilst driving.
Then I did the following changes:
\start\settings\system\external GPS -> Set GPS Program port COM4; Hardware NONE; Access Manage GPS automatically.
Hit ok, wait 10 secs, switch off the device and then soft reset.
Now go to TT7 change the GPS prefences, to use bluetooth device and selected COM4.
No my GPS is perfect now, no problems at all. Have tried it with two different ROMs and no problems.
I have TT7 installed on the main memory and the maps on an Sandisk 8GB Class 4 SDHC card.
Radio ROM is 1.02.25.19 if that helps? and AGPS is turned on a up-to-date.
BTW it was exactly the same when using google maps.
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these settings are the settings that are preset. Hence nothing changed. the lag on the diamond is bad but this is awful.
Using Igo8 very intensively with my TP, no lag at all. Compared it this morning with my VW passat stock nav system, and again, i notice no lag.
I have the settings in the posts above, and have very little lag. I am using QuickGPS instead of AGPS, but all else is the same. My main probklem is how long it takes to get a lock (much longer than on my old Kaiser), but since installing DCS's ROM and doing a hard reset immediately after that does seem to have improved - I often get a lock from cold within a minute now..
Rowan
I believe the reason that some people are getting horrible GPS lag while others get nothing has to do with the Radio ROM versions that came installed with the device. Most custom ROMS don't update the Radio ROM. It's 12am and I'm posting this from my TP, so I'll just tell you that the Radio thread is stickied in the Raphael ROM dev forum.
EDIT: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=439566

Kenwood BT-200 Handsfree Kit

I've got a Kenwood BT-200 bluetooth handsfree car kit and have found the following issues with it;
1. Everytime a call is completed, the phone book downloads all over again and takes over 10 minutes, preventing making follow on calls till complete.
2. The received and dialed calls list doesn't work
3. Cannot initiate a call from the head unit unless the phone screen is on (was working perfectly on previous HTC Touch Cruise).
4. Unable to initiate voice dialing on Phone using Microsoft Voice Command whereas with previous HF kits it was as simple as pressing and holding the call button.
Anyone else use the same Touch Pro - BT200 combination? Or experience similar problems with other HF kits?
I have Pioneer BT unit. I can not connect, but I installed Hands-Free Config from JETware Mobile Software and it solved all my problems. There are many setting options which should help you...
Hi Pritman,
I just went through the same thing after upgrading to the Touch Pro from the Dopod 838Pro (Hermes).
There's a firmware update available for the KCA-BT200 which may well fix your issues (certainly did mine).
I created a post about this earlier today (didn't see your post here).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=440494
The firmware flash is very easy to do. You will just need a laptop with a bluetooth adaptor.
Codenix.
Kenwood have released another update.
See my other post at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=440494 for details.
Codenix.
Wow, never thought I would fine anyone else with the combination of Kenwood DNX-7100, KCA-BT200 AND the touch pro. I am having similar issues.
DNX-7100 with BT100 worked fine with touch pro.
"upgraded" to BT200, and I have nothing but headaches.
I have tried two different BT200, and both have been flaky.
I have tried BT200 firmware 1.60 and 1.70, and both have been flaky.
My problem is similar to the ones you folks have been experiencing, mainly it is constantly downloading, and the interface is super sluggish when downloading. I can retrieve a name and phone number from the BT200's memory, but when I call out it will say downloading and do nothing. Sometimes it won't "pair" with the phone automatically unless I manually select my phone from the DNX-7100, and sometimes it will just drop the connection. I used the BT100 for about a year, and it was solid 95% of the time. I am running stock Telus rom, btw. I have also played around with the dip switch on the BT-200. From the shipped manual, DNX-7100 belongs in group F, which is off, off, on for dip switch 1, 2, 3. But when I searched online, some of Kenwood's info listed the DNX-7100 under group G, which has dip switch off, on, off, just to add to the confusion. I have also tried removing the "wireless stereo" profile as well as the "serial port" profile, but that fixed nothing. Lastly, just to kick me when I'm down, when it list the numbers, sometimes it list them as first name, then last name, but sometimes it list it as last name then first. This is super irritating as you can't be sure where anyone is listed ..... so far my experience with the BT200 has been nothing but horrible. I am on the verge of flashing my touch pro to a cooked ROM just to see if it is due to the stock Telus rom's bluetooth (I went back to stock as the juggalo rom I used became corrupt after a few weeks).
So, did you guys finally find a solution that worked 100% of the time?
Idea
Hi Guys, I'm glad there are more people out there with my combination.
Upgrading the BT 200 to 1.70 has improved things significantly but not as good as it would be with another handset like a Nokia N95. The download delay and sluggishness still exist.
I recall when I paired the TP, a notice came up on the TP that the BT 200 is requesting access to the phonebook or contacts and prompted me to allow or deny. I'm wondering what would happen if I deny? I do know that when I first paired the N95 with the older firmware, it wouldn't syncronise the contacts and I had to manually send the contacts to the BT 200. If this can be done with the TP, it may eliminate the constant downloading, perhaps.
Anyone else willing to try this. I may not be able to do this till later this weekend so if any of you do manage to test this before me, please post the results.
Good luck!
If you don't give it access to the phonebook, I suspect it can't download your phonebook automatically, and you would have to manually push the phonebook over, which defeats the purpose of the BT-200, effectively making it a BT-100. After trying a 2nd BT-200 for 3 days, I have given up and chalked up the BT-200 as extremely flaky, and is easily the worst purchase I have ever made as:
1) Half the time it won't pair with the phone automatically
2) The other half when it does pair, you can't dial out as half time time again when you want to make it call, it decides to do a download from your phone instead (never mind that it already "downloaded" when it paired already. Half x half = quarter.
3) Half the time when it does manage to make it call, it magically drops the bluetooth pairing and drops the call.
If you're keeping track, we are at half x half x half, which is 0.125, or this damn thing only works 12.5% of the time. This is not a time saver, nor a gadget of convenience/safety. It is the ultimate source of anxiety, danger (as you're trying to get the damn thing to work), and a big disappointment. Kenwood, shame on you for putting out such flaky products, and especially for not fixing it (look at the first post, it is from Oct 08).
I am going to return both of my BT-200 to Clutchfield, and am going back to my 99% stable BT-100. BT-100 actually is not as horrible with the TP as TP runs WinMo 6.1, which lets you push multiple phone book contacts at once (not like the older WinMo where you had to push contacts ONE BY ONE!!!). The only caveat with the BT-100 is if you need to delete or modify any contacts, you can't, and you have to delete all the entries for a particular phone and repair and push all contacts again, which takes 1 minute now as oppose to half an hour with pre-WinMo 6.1. When I buy a HU next time, I don't think I will consider Kenwood again due to:
1) Flaky software/interface.
2) Poor documentation.
3) Poor service support. Kenwood Canada actually NEVER REPLIED. I only received the auto-gen email notification indicating they received my email. Clutchfield Canada has been very supportive, and I will pay more to buy from them in the future solely due to their strong customer support.
Hi Johnnysks,
As far as the Touch Pro is concerned, I understand your frustration and totally support your argument.
On the other hand, I have tested the BT-200 with a Nokia 96 & my previous Touch Cruise, works like a dream! I've had good responses from Kenwood UK but whenever I contact HTC, I alway get vague responses, which to me suggests that Kenwood must have been making the effort but keep getting let down by HTC. Ultimately the BT-200 works with majority of the handsets out there.
I will still keep trying for a solution though as I really do like the TP and the BT-200!
I have no doubts the BT-200 works with other phones, and I know my TP works with my BT-100 flawlessly. I also know from prior personal dealings with Kenwood Canada's technical support that:
1) They're rude, have a bad attitude, and unprofessional (as my first inquiry for a different product from a year ago was met with a reply that was condescending, unhelpful, and was not even in proper English). I'll be more than happy to dig up my old email for you if you have any doubts.
2) They're not responsive. It's been over a week, and they never replied to my current inquiry regarding the BT-200 (funny. They used to be rude and unprofessional. Now they're missing in action)
Perhaps Kenwood USA, Kenwood UK, or Kenwood Japan are doing an awesome job. However, I can only go with what I have personally experienced.
Anyone find a fix for this? I have the same problems with my DNX8120. Tried Jetware, no luck, I would try BTRestore, but it won't work with .net 3. My biggest complaint is that even if it is connected via bluetooth, it won't start a call from th eheadset unless the phone is not in standby. Next biggest issue is that it drops the connection after hanging up from a call.
Very f*&%*g annoying!
FYI, worked with 2 different ETEN's

htc and kenwood car stereo how to?

Hi, just bought a new car equipped with kenwood kbd bt6544u car stereo.
I succesfully connect my diamond with, but all my contacts doesn't remain on the radio after downloading and I have to resync everytime I switch off the radio, except for the quick call saved presets. I wonder if this is the normal behaviour or something is wrong. Can someone explain me how is the kenwood logic so maybe I understand how to use it properly? tks in advance brgds
hi,
I'm using my diamond with a kenwood KDC-BT8044U and I also need to sync every time but I think that this is normal... I've never seen a car stereo equipment which saves the contacts in a permanent storage... it doesn't need a lot of time and it works automatically, so...
regards
ps. If you get it work let me know how
Maybe there's a logic behind: if you connect with different phones you'll mess up all the contacts so maybe this way is better. Just this is not clear to me: when I get into the car the car bt connects but does anything, AFTER a phone call the contacts are downloaded (and sometimes hangs on downloading...). Is this also for you?
best regards
boglll said:
Just this is not clear to me: when I get into the car the car bt connects but does anything, AFTER a phone call the contacts are downloaded (and sometimes hangs on downloading...). Is this also for you?
best regards
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I have the KDC-BT8044U and I don't have this problem, as soon as it connects the contacts are automatically downloaded.
I have another problem, perhaps you can help me, the downloading from my HTC Touch HD WM 6.5 EnergyROM (14.06.09) takes extremely long for me (approx 5min30sec). I find it very annoying because during this time I can not make any calls.
How long does it take with your phones? I tried with a iPhone of my friends and it only took a few seconds.
Why is this taking so long for me with only 78 contacts?
Please help
well, I noticed that if I have the phone on (I mean screen on) when I connect, the download starts immediately, otherwise it starts after minutes and is extremely slow... Download time is about 60 secs, I had longer download time (also hangs) when I had a specific contact on my phonebook. After removing it problem solved... I found the "guilty" because activesync was unable to sync the specific contact. Hope it helps!
Hi, I also have a Touch HD and a bt-8044u. I can't seem to answer calls or dial calls from my head unit. Does anyone else have this problem?
My headunit also downloads each time it is connected!
freeflyer2006 said:
Hi, I also have a Touch HD and a bt-8044u. I can't seem to answer calls or dial calls from my head unit. Does anyone else have this problem?
My headunit also downloads each time it is connected!
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yes I have the same problem, see here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=554785
go to this post, and tell what ROM you are exactly using, perhaps, if we are 2 we can get more help
I upgraded to BsB wm6.5 rom one week ago and since then all is smooth as silk: immediate connection, fast download, no more troubles!
I also use htc touch HD on BT8044U, but i can't sync sms, anyone can do this?
fedux83 said:
I also use htc touch HD on BT8044U, but i can't sync sms, anyone can do this?
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nope, it's not available for the touch hd
Touch Diamond & Kenwood DNX7240BT
Initially had problems with these, sorted now.
Upgraded bluetooth (from Kenwood's site) but didn't help.
Next I erased pictures attached to phonebook entries and deleted ALL call records (these things store thousands of calls made, received or missed.) Now, it only takes about 6 seconds to show the entire phonebook is present on screen.
Shame the SMS won't work, yet. maybe in the future.
Hi all,
I have been looking at buying this head unit, and it would be great if you could answer the following:
I listen to a lot of audio books and would like to know that if you are listening to a track and switch the radio off, does the radio remember the track you were last listening to AND the position within the track.
It would be very annoying if the system flipped to the beginning of the track everytime....
Also does the headunit support streaming via bluetooth I have a TYTN II.
Thanks in advance....
When listening to music on a cd, playback resumes from precisely where it was prior to switching the ignition off.
I've never tried an audio book though so can't comment, sorry.
Audio streaming works fine over bluetooth (A2DP,?)from my Diamond.
H.T.H.
same problem here:
touch hd (xt grid evo 1.7)
kenwood 8044u
after every HF Connect the download starts.
The download needs about 5min then...
I have 95 contacts with ~150 numbers in my contactlist
No pictures, and all numbers as +49 123 456789
is there anything to get the download faster?
thx
Yes.
Delete all call records (in, out and missed) and text messages.
Mine had over two years worth of records at one time !
Whichever tweaking programme you use, set up a maximum list of 10 calls missed, made and received. This will prevent the list building up again. (I use 'Advanced Config' on my Diamond for this.)
H.T.H.
that's it
just deleted the history and then download nedds about 15sec now
Thx!
Is there an registry entry to set the number of saved entries?
I wish to diasble that at all for privacy reasons...
You're welcome, glad it worked for you.
Although there will be a way to limit the entries in the registry, I don't know it, sorry. If you download 'Schap's Advanced Configuration Tool' (available in this forum), it can do that and loads of other useful settings too.
I also set my phone to display only its internal phone book and not the sim contacts, which halves the number transferred to the Kenwood. This was also done from within the 'Advanced Config.' tool.
For best results, alter the number of entries for SMS messages, too. (again dead easy with the 'Advanced Config.' tool.)
My TD2 connects, syncs, but I can't hang up or establish a call by myself. Answering calls works fine using the control knob. Any suggestions?
HoPi,
I don't think your phone is supported, yet.
See, http://www.kenwood.com/cs/ce/bt/index.php for a compatibility list.
Keep an eye out for updates. When I first bought my headunit, there were 3 downloadable updates within the first few weeks.
HTH
Whoops, haven't seen that list. I just checked the local (german) version which only offers a PDF file (with 2 HTC devices mentioned). Seems like I can be glad that the phone works half-way. Thanks!

Vzw tp2 gps issue

Gps doesn't work on my phone. Do I need to return it? Google doesn't know where I am and waze also today does the same thing now. Says no gps, go outside when I am outside. I had the storm for a few weeks just before I got the tp2 and it had no problem. Google maps knew where I was. On my tp2 it's set location on.
I don't know what to do. I have alot of anxiety over this now.
I hope someone will be able to please help me.
Thank you so much.
Joe
Did you:
1) SEARCH the this forum first?
2) Set your phone's GPS option to always on instead on 911 only?
3) Update the "Quick GPS" Program?
4) Select the "Use GPS" option in Google maps?
if you answered "No" to any of these, please return your phone and get your storm back.
Yes I did all that.
hmmm... does Google maps day "GPS active" or "Seeking GPS Satellites" up in the top right corner??
It said seeking.
I did not click the gps button in google maps. I thought I did click it. Sorry
it then said it found no gps hardware after j enabled the gps. So I did a memory, storage button and erase back to factory. So I'll try again. But, what is the google.com URL to use to get google maps for my phone? Only thing is one place said google maps is not available for my phone. I forget what site said this.
Google hates Opera Mobile for some odd reason, try going to m.google.com in pocket IE or whatever it's called and select Google Maps from there.
Ok. Great. Thanks. Yes I was using opera.
I just think of it as IE. Don't know what pocket pc means really. So I'll use the built in IE mobile and try m.google.com and report back. Thanks so much.
Joe
don't forget to do steps 2 through 4 in my first post.
I just got back from a walk to test the gps. It worked awesome with google maps. I installed it first to sd card. I tried to run it and it would not work. It popped up some sort of error. Like runtime maybe. I forget. I went to remove programs and it wouldn't remove it giving same error or something. I forget the error. So I had to manually delete the new folders on the sd card. Then I installed to main storage and it worked.
It says gps 10 in the top right. What does this mean?
It was dead on accurate. It was literally exact and when not probably within 20 feet or less. I thought it was funny when I would walk into the middle of the street the blue ball followed me and when I was in the middle of the street it was too. Kinda eary like lol. It was awesomely accurate.
Does google maps have turn by turn directions? My cousin who has iPhone says it does. I know it won't talk to you .
Can you guys recomend other free gps apps/services? Waze doesn't work good since alot of times it looses connection and won't try to reconnect. I also doesn't have good coverage which I don't understand. It's using gps so how can it not know where I am?
I just can't afford money cus I'm on disability right now and don't work. I have a huge visa bill I'm paying and now I have to have a tooth replacement which will cost me upwards of $3000-$4000. This range is possible. So free is preferred of course. However if there's a free trial of a good one I don't mind trying one.
What is the use for gps device with this phone? The phone has external gps settings. What's this for?
Sorry for all the questions.
The "10" at the top means that 10 satellites got a lock on ya (I think, correct me if I'm wrong) And yes, you can get turn by turn directions, but sometimes, even google makes mistakes with it's addresses, so be careful. I'll leave the rest up to anyone else that has some good suggestions or answers...
Also... everything is free on the piratebay...you know... just saying...
buggs1a said:
Does google maps have turn by turn directions? My cousin who has iPhone says it does. I know it won't talk to you .
Can you guys recomend other free gps apps/services?
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Also try Windows Live Search Mobile, or Bing mobile, whatever it is called.
It does routing a bit better then Google IMHO, and has a warning tone just before a turn. Though still no speech.
The only problem is that it expects to have a D-Pad for zooming in and out. The TP2 doesn't have that, some zooming in and out is a pain.
IGO 8 is a great GPS software at least IMO. It has very little lag during navigation and so far I have found it to be one of the most accurate as far as the maps are conerned. I have used just about every GPS software there is whether it is free or paid subscriptions and IGO 8 it the only one that actually show the front entrance to my community on the maps. According to all other GPS softwares it does not exist. I have used all the current versions and IGO 8 is the only once showing this. Every once in a while it will take me on a longer route when I know there is a shorter way, but so far if I do not know where I am going it will get me there. It's not perfect but I find it the fasetest and most accurate for what I use it for. I am sure others will have different opinions.
Google it.
Google Navigator
Google maps works okay by itself, but it apparently works better with this and its also free. Make you wander how anyone will be able to charge for navigation in the future if it works well. Looks as good on screen as any commercial product.
http://google-navigator.en.softonic.com/pocketpc
Never mind this suggestion. Upon further looking around it actually costs $59 bucks. Not what you are looking for. The trial does not even allow actual navigation to start.
I have a VZW TP2 for about two weeks. I put Bing and Google Maps on it and the GPS appeared to work OK. Then it stopped.
For over one week no GPS. Right now I put it in the back yard on a table. Clear view of the sky. No luck.
My TP2 does not have QUICKGPS. I have been told that is standard on all TP2's. Verizon said to do a hard reset to get it.
Are those of you having success using QUICKGPS? Any idea how to get it without doing a hard reset and hoping it populates on the device???
JG
Thanks for the responses so far. I appreciate it.
Quick gps should be in the phone. If not there's only hard reset back to factory. However you got it that way and it should be on the phone. If it's not then return it for another. That's what I'd do anyway.
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Thanks for the responses so far. I appreciate it.
Quick gps should be in the phone. If not there's only hard reset back to factory. However you got it that way and it should be on the phone. If it's not then return it for another. That's what I'd do anyway.
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I did the hard reset. Quick GPS was there! I have quite a few hours of work to reset the phone and reinstall the programs that I had.
I would estimate 4-5 hours to get the phone back to where it was. This sure seems like a lot of work to get one silly file on the TP2.....
I can't find that Microsoft maps app nor this igo thing.
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I can't find that Microsoft maps app nor this igo thing.
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Are you talking about Live search? If so, just google it or go to msn.com and go from there.
Horrible lag
You huys are telling me you have no lag in your gps??? I can lock in seconds no problem but when I use any nav software is has a 10-20sec lag! It blows..... I have a solid 8-13 sats and same thing. I went as far as doing a hard reset and installing nothing but googke maps and it still lagged........ Any help?!?!?!
Tp2 comes with live search already. I thought it was search only so I never opened it. Well I did finally and it's better then google maps because it shows the directions on the bottom of the map screen while you move. And I heard it beep at me on my driveway which I just was testing it. Kinda neat but it sucks cus it's your system beep I think and volume is far too soft.
So I updated to the new version which is bing and installed it to my sd card. I haven't tested it yet though. Oh yeah. Picture quality in live/bing is the WORST ever!!!! It sucks balls. It's blurry and hurts my eyes to look at it. Any other map app I'm sure is a kazillion times clearer like google maps has an awesome clean clear crisp picture. F ms I say. Since it's such a Terrible picture.
Or is there something to set to make it not so crummy I wonder?

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