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WM6 ROM bugs complaint HERE! discuss 2gather

hi...i create this thread for everybody who had problems or bugs with the WM6 ROM either PDAMobiz or Smart1 ROM...
coz i find it difficult to search all of threads here...

If this thread doesnt get deleted here's my two cents: smart1 v2 ROM (G4 Prophet):
1. no java
2. Infrared doesnt work properly
3. phone freezes quite often
4. Charging issues: sometimes decides not to charge either on wall charger or PC USB cable...no set pattern there

1: Button 1 & 2 are not customizable ( to me , this is very very very very very very important, I change back to WM5 because of this)
2: when WIFI is ON and connected to a network, click the connection icon on the top of the screen, it will have a link for you to " TURN ON WIFI", shouldnt it be " TURN OFF WIFI" ?
3: cannot connect to internet once a while via WIFI, USB (activesync) , or GPRS , need soft reset to fix it. This issue sometimes happen to me on WM5 too, but seems more often on WM6.
4: I hard reset a few times to test different setting/ software etc, but 1 time, the WINDOWS live doesnt let me sign in at all, I have internet working (can get on google etc). But Windows live just keep telling me to check internet connection. -> hard reset.
For mndgz comment 2. Infrared doesnt work properly <<< I thought the Regedit, seems working for me. Maybe you just need another hardreset.
dmc3 is right, the pdamobiz WM6 post becomes too big... very hard to find answer....

well..thx..
but i think that v2 had fixed most of bugs in v1 that i'm using right now?
i haven't flash it to v2 but i think that mine is fine already.
only some bugs such as corrupted device lock,and contacts disappeared,and this ROM easily dead..
i'm looking forward on V3 ROM.hope that they've fixed all of bugs that now users have been complaining...
well..sometimes i think that maybe smart1 would creat new Open Source ROM just like Linux or else but compatible to WM applications

i have a strange error with the pdamobiz rom, i can't unlock my phone after a couple off soft resets it says i have wrong unlock code so i had to hard reset (had to hard reset 2times because off that, and i'm reinstalling phone now for 3th time but i'm not gonna choose a lock code).
it happens after i have installed almost all my software so that can also be the problem.
whan i go to lock in the settings menu, then i have to give in my code and that works but it doesn't work if i soft reset device
maybe the problem is my code itself and i choose 7519 ass code

Well.u must be using the same as mine,v1.
v2 doesn't have this problem(so far that i search all posts)
that's the bug..don't put any password until u've flash it to upcoming WM6 v3 ROM..maybe they've fixed this bug

suboxide said:
i have a strange error with the pdamobiz rom, i can't unlock my phone after a couple off soft resets it says i have wrong unlock code so i had to hard reset (had to hard reset 2times because off that, and i'm reinstalling phone now for 3th time but i'm not gonna choose a lock code).
it happens after i have installed almost all my software so that can also be the problem.
whan i go to lock in the settings menu, then i have to give in my code and that works but it doesn't work if i soft reset device
maybe the problem is my code itself and i choose 7519 ass code
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...try this ...intead of softreset shut down the prophet and than turn it on again.....seem that wm6 not save all data .....for me this system works

videobelu said:
...try this ...intead of softreset shut down the prophet and than turn it on again.....seem that wm6 not save all data .....for me this system works
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strange,even Microsoft already said that starting from WM5.ROM will be used to save data..so,it must be NON-VOLATILE...
really,i'm surprised that WM6 ROM is back to "StoneAge" if it is about saving data...
Smart1 should fixed this problem on v3

dmc3 said:
strange,even Microsoft already said that starting from WM5.ROM will be used to save data..so,it must be NON-VOLATILE...
really,i'm surprised that WM6 ROM is back to "StoneAge" if it is about saving data...
Smart1 should fixed this problem on v3
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..yes strange but works also for wifi and bt setting..........................

I created some subfolders in my pushmail account (Mail2Web.com) in the Messaging tool, like "PPC Things" or "Private" but when I softreset my device (XDA Neo, G4) the mails in this subfolders where be deleted!!!
But when I look into my mail account via Firefox at PC I see them all in the right subfolders! :-?
Is it a bug or feature?
How to resolve this issue?

TimeZone
What about fixing the timezone prob ?

timezone is not a big problem.right now,if smart1 doesn't fix this "Volatile"-problem,this ROM is just a waste...

uccoffee said:
1: Button 1 & 2 are not customizable ( to me , this is very very very very very very important, I change back to WM5 Maybe you just need another hardreset.
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Did this issue of button mapping ever get fixed in Smart v2? I don't believe this was ever corrected in ANY of the aku 3 WM5 ROMS either.

whats button mapping? i don't get it?

Well, let me explain. This is the single biggest issue I have with all the WM5 aku 3 and WM6 ROMs so far, and I doubt it will ever get fixed for any new ROMs. This is also what keeps from updating my prophet to anything higher than aku 2.2.
Buttons 1 and 2 correspond to the lower left Windows key and the OK key on the lower right. When you go into the control panel, you see 'buttons'. Here, you can assign a different function to these 2 buttons in addition to buttons 3 and 4 (camera and conn manager by default). In all these latest ROMs, you can ONLY change buttons 3 and 4. Changing the function of buttons 1 and 2 will not work for some reason.
Using Wisbar Advance 2, I use buttons 1 and 2 for the Cascading Start Menu and Close, respectively. However, this won't work for aku 3 ROMs and WM6 ROMs......at least not yet! aaarrrrggghhhh!

not a problem....i often use both of them..

Huh? What do you mean you use both of them?
Of course you can use them, but for no other purpose than the default start menu and the minimize functions.
If you're saying they CAN be changed, try changing one to the calculator and see if it works....

Bugs
I recently installed the Smart1's WM6 ROM v2 - overall very nice, much faster than my original WM5 ROM.
Few problems:-
1) Password - Seems to forget password, constantly says incorrect password entered. Only solution - hard reset.
2) MMS - Can send but not receive - sometimes cannot send either. Keypad lights up as if it is going to receive but no notification appears.
3) WiFi - Sometimes forgets WPA-PSK and actual network for that matter.
4) Sometimes when shutting down, the screen gets corrupted.
Also had a lot ofproblems getting it to work in the first place. I do understand that it isn't an official ROM, just thought it fair to make a point of this, hopefully complete noobs will avoid it as I suspect many will end up with nice rounded black bricks

Im Using PDA Mobiz 1.00 v1, All seems fine, Cant change Buttons 1 & 2 but no need for me.
I thought we were going to have HTML Emails in WM6? MS Demo shows it - doesnt seem to work for my Push emails?
Also my Radio version is 2.20.21, should i update this to teh 2.6 something or if it works dont mess with it?
JC

JCnME said:
Im Using PDA Mobiz 1.00 v1, All seems fine, Cant change Buttons 1 & 2 but no need for me.
I thought we were going to have HTML Emails in WM6? MS Demo shows it - doesnt seem to work for my Push emails?
Also my Radio version is 2.20.21, should i update this to teh 2.6 something or if it works dont mess with it?
JC
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yes..i also think that PDA MobiZ Fantastic Xbow is still better than V2

Vox and TomTom

Anybody know / tested if TomTom works on the Vox? Which version in that case?

I know that 5.2 works! I also heard that 6 works with some tweaks

samyboy said:
I know that 5.2 works! I also heard that 6 works with some tweaks
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Anybody sitting on those tweaks? Like to have them...

I am successfully using TomTom_6.020_for_Windows_Mobile_Smartphone on my VOX including newest CE maps. No problems at all.

kickasso said:
I am successfully using TomTom_6.020_for_Windows_Mobile_Smartphone on my VOX including newest CE maps. No problems at all.
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HEY,
THE VERSION IS THE SAME FOR SYMBIAN 3D EDITION?
or it's another one?
many thanks
i use now a tomtom 6.030 but i can't use a scroll for make a choice.
did you upload a link for EMULç please

Just installed TomTom 6 for PPC, and it worked fine on my Vox. You can do everything with the four way button, and the softkeys. I did not need to use any fake cursor or anything. I have a standard tomtom gps though, so the settings for gps were pre-configured.

Yep using 6.030 (8320)
The tricky part was to setup TomTom, now it's running smoothly.
1st) Install - install was not working so the option was to copy correct files from PocekPC version. After that no problems to run TomTom.
2nd) Set up GPS or multiple maps, generally when you have to choose from list there is no option to use D-Pad. For that purpouse I've used fakecursor with xbar3. When "in TomTom" I've called xbar3 and from there fakecursor to setup GPS and correct map. Of course you need to setup xbar3 to have FakeCursor link in there. For GPS you need to assign COM port in Bluetooth settings.
Pain in the a** was that I was not able to switch fakecursor off becouse none of the buttons (except D-pad) were responding. So to switch it off I've had to remove battery. However this is only one time job since after setting things up you can use your keyboards only.
3rd) Small glitch while using TomTom when you need to "Cliclk" you need to use left soft key - action key on D-pad is acting like "double-click".
Uff... took some time to do it.
Now
Kusnier

Hi, I could make TOMTOM 6 work, but I just can't use it because the keyboards don't work properly. Neither the phone keypad nor the QWERTZ keypad (it's a German vox).
I can't select in the lists ans I can't correct input-mistakes because I don't have a backspace-button.
Is there any way making TOMTOM work properly?
And another thing: how can I create a shortcut in the start menu? And how can I create shortcuts on the home-screen?
Thanks,
Cheesy

TT6.02 works fine on my S710
Hi,
TT6.02 works fine on my S710.
I've made a movie so u can see how it works:
http://www.verwarmingspagina.nl/clips/NVEExport.mpg
Regards,
Schmia

awesome it works perfectly!!! can u write me in a pvt mess THE correct version please? thanx

kusnier said:
Yep using 6.030 (8320)
The tricky part was to setup TomTom, now it's running smoothly.
1st) Install - install was not working so the option was to copy correct files from PocekPC version. After that no problems to run TomTom.
2nd) Set up GPS or multiple maps, generally when you have to choose from list there is no option to use D-Pad. For that purpouse I've used fakecursor with xbar3. When "in TomTom" I've called xbar3 and from there fakecursor to setup GPS and correct map. Of course you need to setup xbar3 to have FakeCursor link in there. For GPS you need to assign COM port in Bluetooth settings.
Pain in the a** was that I was not able to switch fakecursor off becouse none of the buttons (except D-pad) were responding. So to switch it off I've had to remove battery. However this is only one time job since after setting things up you can use your keyboards only.
3rd) Small glitch while using TomTom when you need to "Cliclk" you need to use left soft key - action key on D-pad is acting like "double-click".
Uff... took some time to do it.
Now
Kusnier
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Thanks for the info! I've tried to install by copying the files from a PPC memory card to the Vox memory card and then execute the cab for tomtom 6.03. The installation then dies on me...
When you say "copy correct files from PocekPC version" do you mean only the files from the \program files and the \My Documents folder? Or are there more files in the windows folder?
//Jerry
Ooops, I tired to copy the stuff in \Program files\Navigator and \My Documents\TomTom\ ... And it worked!
Thanks a lot you all!
//Jerry

schmia said:
Hi,
TT6.02 works fine on my S710.
I've made a movie so u can see how it works:
http://www.verwarmingspagina.nl/clips/NVEExport.mpg
Regards,
Schmia
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Great video, but it does not show you using the up/down key during the address selection. Can you show the up/down working? Thanks

tjmvdz said:
Just installed TomTom 6 for PPC, and it worked fine on my Vox. You can do everything with the four way button, and the softkeys. I did not need to use any fake cursor or anything. I have a standard tomtom gps though, so the settings for gps were pre-configured.
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hi
Exactly which version of TomTom 6 are you using, and you have the HTC S710/E650, with all the up/down keys working in the address selection?
Thanks

tjmvdz said:
Just installed TomTom 6 for PPC, and it worked fine on my Vox. You can do everything with the four way button, and the softkeys. I did not need to use any fake cursor or anything. I have a standard tomtom gps though, so the settings for gps were pre-configured.
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Does the 4 way button work when selecting an address (up / down) and does the 4 way button work when browsing the map (up / down) , it only works left and right for me. Which version of tomtom are you using and are you using the E650/HTC S710?
Thanks

levanter said:
Great video, but it does not show you using the up/down key during the address selection. Can you show the up/down working? Thanks
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U don't need the up/down key.
Just type in the adres and when it is at top press the button int the middle of the jog button (enter)
Regards,
Schmia

hmmmm - pretty crap solution though.
At the end of the day ttn6 is PPC software not smartphone and it seems tomtom have no plans to release a smartphone version!
The other thing that pisses me off about tomtom at the moment is, if I do decide to upgrade (upgrade - thats a laugh - buy the product again) then I also have to "upgrade" (buy) all of my USA maps again too.
It seems to me that they are focussed on their all in one units and really couldn't give two hoots about us mobile/ppc users who have been with them for a long time.
At £75 for the software (all of Europe) I am going to give Route 66 mobile 7 a go. Hopefully it will be bye bye tomtom
schmia said:
U don't need the up/down key.
Just type in the adres and when it is at top press the button int the middle of the jog button (enter)
Regards,
Schmia
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Well it's not that crappy as you think
It works very fine for me.
I have absolute no problems with this version of TT6 running on my HTC S710.
Regards,
Schmia

schmia said:
Well it's not that crappy as you think
It works very fine for me.
I have absolute no problems with this version of TT6 running on my HTC S710.
Regards,
Schmia
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I've installed TTN6 with a PPC emulator and copying the files to microSD card and I think it's working great on my S710 except one thing:
The display switches completely off after 30sec like when the phone is in standby mode on the homescreen.
I'd like that TTN6 doesn't switch the display off when it's running.
Don't you experience this issue? And has someone a solution?

perry185 said:
I've installed TTN6 with a PPC emulator and copying the files to microSD card and I think it's working great on my S710 except one thing:
The display switches completely off after 30sec like when the phone is in standby mode on the homescreen.
I'd like that TTN6 doesn't switch the display off when it's running.
Don't you experience this issue? And has someone a solution?
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Yes i know this problem.
I had this problem with version 6.02.
Version 6.0 doesn't switch to homescreen while using TomTom.
Regards,
Schmia

ehi guys that trick worked and it works great!!!! u guys rule

Issues with Alpha Wm6 Rom

hilo,
Just created a new thread for this as its issues are pilling up the other one. i think that thread should be clean and should have only and only contain info about progress on the wm6 rom...
Mods if unnecessary please delete...
Tejas

I would not call it a bug but one of the disadvantages of the ROM is that, similar to these ones which come to Qtek and i-mate, it does not recognise the network settings out of the box but you have to fiddle with them manually. When I use Orange ROMs (and it does not matter if the ROM comes from the UK or Switzerland) everything works with flying colours, despite I do not use any Orange network. Just I have to install Opera Mobile (I hate pocket IE) and voila! Everything works!

Channels don't work.

in india AFAIK channels just provide the cell id i.e the area which i m in... not imp though... no use of channels

ok phil.
if u remove windows update, at least supply it as a cab in the extras folder.
channels don't work.
long pressed side button does not work! it used to start voice note record for the sda and i'd like that to work.
mms.
better camera software. btw htc camera makes the phone SLOW..... not a good one. need an alternate
enable profile switching to silent when long pressing '#' key
default folder for saving pictures on storage card is not my documents\my pictures any more but a lame dcim folder. that would be nice to be changed.
also, sometimes when answering a call, the keyboard stays locked, the call is still on, but the home screen is active and not the call screen.
joystick seems much better but sometimes it doesn't want to work as it should. maybe another driver; if not, this one is good
we need wpa2 for wifi enabled.
also add in the extras folder:
moblue
tcpmp with extra codecs
htc audio manager could be good
if u need the cabs for moblue and htc audio, i have them
there is an newer version of sim manager. v6.10. has a couple of new things (got it if u need it)
and maybe add a good version of opera. not the java one.
we also need a good midlet manager
also a good instant messaging program. maybe a multi client one like oz mobile im, or like im+

mmmhhh after read all this bugs, i better wait a while to update my phone, i find a good idea to write here all the problems with the actually ROM.

Good AD2P drivers
Hi,
Is it possible to have good ad2p drivers with the next rom?

Tomtom 6
I have never been able to run tomtom 6 before the update.
Is it possible now with update? and also which is best version to install?
Kindest regards

I have Push mail configured and GPRS seems to be buggy. once or twice a day GPRS seems to stop working. My Activesync fails with (Can not connect to network or waiting for the network to be available), and in that mode even IE can not connect to any site. I switch off and on the phone function only, GPRS becomes available again.

boneym said:
I have Push mail configured and GPRS seems to be buggy. once or twice a day GPRS seems to stop working. My Activesync fails with (Can not connect to network or waiting for the network to be available), and in that mode even IE can not connect to any site. I switch off and on the phone function only, GPRS becomes available again.
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Actually I would split your post in two separate ones.
1. the instability of WM6 Alpha - obvious thing, and it should be fixed
2. but I also see something else. I see from many posts that one application which sets all the settings with one click is quite urgently needed. I know that something like that exists for Swiss networks http://www.mysmartphone.ch/Freeware/kommunikation/16920.aspx and for the Norwegian ones http://www.smartmobil.no/Article617.phtml but I think that everybody would agree that such an universal solution would be something good. Unfortunately, I do not know anything about programming but I can imagine this kind of program and a separate database. The database would be filled by volunteers - I can, for example, provide all the settings of Polish operators, someone else British, French, etc. It would be good esp. for people who travel a lot.

unlocksmith said:
I have never been able to run tomtom 6 before the update.
Is it possible now with update? and also which is best version to install?
Kindest regards
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TomTom 6 is made for Pocket PCs. It requires a touch screen to work, so you won´t be able to control it. I have had it running on my 8310 but it´s just silly to even have it installed. Go for 5.2 if you can find it.

I have problems syncing my contacts if i have more than 305 contacts.
The ActiveSync (or WMDC) hangs saying "attention required". Though, i can make 305+ contacts on the WM6 and sync them back to Outlook! But backwards i get 305 contact limit. Vey, very strange!
With previous ROM everything was ok.
I tried syncing with different PCs, tried unistalling ActiveSync and WMDC - no use. Deleting pim.vol doesn't help too.
ActiveSync on WM6 gives me 0x8503001c error.

Thanks for your help. I got my old one to work. I really like the colours in tomtom 6 tho.
Also on my phone i have a problem(s) with tomtom 5, I cant type in the post code B8 followed by anything like B8 3NU. Also I can't use certain Points Of Interest such as hospitals or cash dispensers. These work fine on my Wizard but I wana be able to do it all with TORNADO!

The software of dual sim selector don't works with that new rom (adapter of 10ª generation).
Well, I don't know if it works; the soft does not appear by any side.
I proved several solutions, but no it has worked to me.
Somebody can help me?
Thanks.

tejasphatak please rename the topic to "WM6 Torando bugs/issues" , so we can generally post bugs/issues regarding all WM6 tornado roms
Bugs:
1. The locklevel change to 1 randomly..
2. Sometimes the phone freeze when unloking kepyad.
It happened two times.
Issues:
1. When playing audio the CPU load is ~ 25-30% (@180 Mhz). It is normal ? (can someone with WM5 test?)
If using EQ and other effects the CPU load increase.
A taskmanager with cpu load info can be found here (it's for PPC but works also ,somehow, on smartphones)
More CPU load = more power = less battery
2. The system lags while writing to storage card (big cards, > 1gb). This issue is present on WM5 Tornado roms too (except iphone rom wich seems to deal better with sd).
Need a beter SD driver .
Same when copying via ActiveSync (has anyone tried usbfn driver from HTC VOX?)
3. when TCPMP is playing audio it keeps the backlight alive
Using andot's PEE V6.

bsider said:
I have problems syncing my contacts if i have more than 305 contacts.
The ActiveSync (or WMDC) hangs saying "attention required". Though, i can make 305+ contacts on the WM6 and sync them back to Outlook! But backwards i get 305 contact limit. Vey, very strange!
With previous ROM everything was ok.
I tried syncing with different PCs, tried unistalling ActiveSync and WMDC - no use. Deleting pim.vol doesn't help too.
ActiveSync on WM6 gives me 0x8503001c error.
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Hello,
I've got a similar problem to this. It used to work fine until last week. I can't remember changing anything in my Hard/software setup but now it just hangs and only some of the contacts sync.
I've searched in the forum but can't seem to find any other reference to this problem. If anyone knows a solution (or any discussion of it) please let me know. Basic device info below:
SPV m3100 (HTC TyTN) running WM6
Windows Vista Home Basic
Windows Mobile Device Center
Thanks.

TomTom 7.915 (9196) works on smartphones

It seems that with this new build of TomTom 7 smartphones are supported now !!!
The problem with earlier releases was that you couldn't scroll down to select the second, third etc line. This now works. Great news. but...
I installed it on a HTC Tornado (qtek 8310) and it works fine. The problem on the S710 is again the backlight going off after a while. Dit anyone try this new version already and do you have the same problem with the backlight?
I know there was a program called Kahuna TTn6 Focufix.cab to keep the focus on the program. maybe this works? I will try to find this program and see if it helps. Maybe we have to modify the key HKCU\Control Panel\Power\Display again?
I hope some of you can help me find a sollution, so we all can use the newest TomTom version on our Vox !

I found the TTn6 Focufix.cab, but this doesn't work.
I did find a workaround: I set the display time-out when on ac power to never. This works. So when I am in the car the battery is charged and the display stays on.

TomTom 7.915 on Fireburner custom ROM 1.0
I am using TomTom 7.915 since I install the custom ROM from fireburner.
This release works on S710 but with same limitation/problem, but you can select the different icon of the menu without any problem. The navigation can be vertical with the phone close, or horizontal if you have the keyboard open.
These are the Four main problem I have found, and the solution I have use to work around:
1. Backlight going off. When I am using it I plug the phone with the power supply, otherwise battery go away immediately after you arrive at destination or when you are close to it. I solve this problem in the "Settings"+"power Management", and select "never" in "Display time out on AC"
2. Backlight always on after use TomTom. I run an application free that you can download from http://www.tgmaker.com/mobile/
3. Input a destination. The two keyboard of the S710 works, but only with number when present. I means that with the number keyboard TomTom take only the numbers, and with the Qwerty will take the letter if they are alone and the numbers if on the key have both. Same problem was in Opera mini, and you can solve in the menu settings.
Sol. A
I solve this problem saving a contact with the address, and select the destination to contact.
Sol. B
You can browse all the city and the street, you must have a lot of time, or if you know the ZIP code the search became faster.
Sol. C
Fakecursor works but are more the disadvantage that the benefits. When you run it you can use only it, and all the shortcuts with the keyboard doesn't work. I prefer plan the destination and recall them after.
4. Selection: When in the display you have only two possibility there are no problem, but when they are more, the option in the middle are difficult to select. I have find the possibility to select using shift+same key, but I found it very uncomfortable.
Now a challenge to the expert!!
My colleagues use TomTom 7.915 on Experia X1, and you can select all the function using only the keyboard. I have seen also a Touch Pro working very fine with it. The two device have different layout (4 and 5 lines) and the software is working perfectly. I was thinking that most probably TomTom call some driver install on the device for the keyboard layout and allow the software to run properly. My device have a fb custom ROM, and I have a stupid idea which maybe work! If we save the driver of the S710 with the same name of the driver TomTom is looking for the layout keyboard, may be we can use both the keyboard.
I know is a strange idea, but I cannot test since I don't know which driver TomTom is looking for when start up.
Bye

are you sure of number 2? I know that tomtom mobile 5 makes the reg key value HKCU\Control panel\Power\Display if it doesn't exist and set the value to 0 after closing tomtom. I don't think tomtom 7 has the same behaviour. Can you try removing the Display value and see if tomtom 7 creates it again.
number3: I didn't have this experience. I do use another rom. Maybe it has to do with enabling the T9 setting of the keyboard? I can use the number keyboard to make letters and select the right city and street.
number 4: good point. I hope somebody knows this

did some more tests just to be sure:
1. problem is the display goes out after a while. workaround is to set the display timeout in the poweroptions to never when on ac power.
2. tomtom7 doesn't make the value Display after closing, so the ptoblem doesn't exist. (there may be other programs that cause this problem, but it is not related to tomtom7)
3. when using the number-keypad all works fine. when using the full-keyboard there is a problem with the keys also used for numbers (like E R T Y). you get numbers when pressing these keys... I like the idea of whanging the keyboard-layout/driver somehow...
4. I don't really understand what you mean. selecting what?

walram said:
I found the TTn6 Focufix.cab, but this doesn't work.
I did find a workaround: I set the display time-out when on ac power to never. This works. So when I am in the car the battery is charged and the display stays on.
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TTn6 Focufix is to prevent Tomtom 6 to go back to today screen on smartphones after a while

walram said:
did some more tests just to be sure:
1. problem is the display goes out after a while. workaround is to set the display timeout in the poweroptions to never when on ac power.
2. tomtom7 doesn't make the value Display after closing, so the ptoblem doesn't exist. (there may be other programs that cause this problem, but it is not related to tomtom7)
3. when using the number-keypad all works fine. when using the full-keyboard there is a problem with the keys also used for numbers (like E R T Y). you get numbers when pressing these keys... I like the idea of whanging the keyboard-layout/driver somehow...
4. I don't really understand what you mean. selecting what?
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Dear walram
I am sorry but I discover that I was running the TTN7.910.9185_vga_black for the Diamond.
I download the new version and I confirm that is working on S710.
1. Ok I have done the same
2. You are right for this point, no need tools for the backlight.
3. Number-keypad all works fine in this version, problem with the qwerty keyboard is still present.
4. In version 9196 the graphic is totally different, in not just a matter of resolution and I believe was developed for specific device. If you press center key pad 6+5 you can see the version of Tomtom , and you have 3 possibility
- copyrigth
- account
- done
I am not able to select Account.
During the installation I was not able to select the correct com port, since look like the cursor was not enable to move, or this version was designed for COM9. I copy the *.exe and *.chk file on the old installation and is fine.
I believe that this version take out from the lolite is the most suitable for the s710. Then finally for who love TomTom, at least they should try it, since interface is almost the same of 5.2 for SP and the overall function looks ok.
If I found bugs or problem I will post later in this section.
Bye

i see what you mean with point 4. I don;t know a sollution for that, but i think you don't really need it for daily use. i could select the right com-port (com 6). installed it on 5 devices already, no problem.
the only bug i found so far is when starting the demo for a route the buttons are switched. so the "ok" and "cancel" are switched. just that you know...
it would be nice if somebody can fix the full-keyboard layout problem... it seems a problem with the s710?
it would also be nice if somebody can write a simple program that creates the registry key to keep the display on when the program is running, and delete the key when tomtom is closed. anybody?

i could select the right com-port (com 6). installed it on 5 devices already, no problem.
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I'm NOT a big fan of TOM TOM but I've tried for the first time to figure out this problem and so far I totally agree with Dom_LC
COM selection is locked IMHO. I've tried to edit navigator.cfg to use COM7.... DONE...but it was useless
then I tried to add COM9 to my Bluetooth outgoing ports...it was selectable but obviously the system was unable to create the port.
I tried also to mix data file with the exe to see wath's what ...useless.
Tried fakecursor and eCursor...they worked everywhere but in the COM selction MEnu.

well, that's kind a strange isn't it? can you use the up and down-button when selecting a city and when selecting a road? are you using version 7.915 and not 7.910?

Sure! and I'l tell you something more interesting also when composing the destination I can't scroll from the vorious suggestions that are indexed along when you are typing (the only that is always selected is the first in the list as for the COM ports)...so the only way is to write the exact name

interesting. so maybe there are more versions of the 7.915 around? something to do with the rom?
anyway i can scroll from the vorious suggestions everywhere. Maybe i should send you my version and see what it does on your vox.
I had the following files:
ttn7.915.9196.qvga_black.cab
ttn7.915.9196.qvga_blue.cab
ttn7.915.9196.vga_black.cab
i installed the middle one.
a did find a bug, so it seems. How do you select a differect country when typing a city? On a PDA you can select the country on the right side of the screen. but how does it work on a smartphone? eg. I am from the netherlands and the only city's i can select are from the netherlands. In earlier versions of tomtom all city's of europe were in the same list. can anyone confirm this bug?

Yep Walram, this bug is on my StarTrek too, TT started in Belgium for me and i had no clue how to change the country to Netherlands, so i navigated to one of my dutch contacts and that did the trick, so, maybe a bit odd, but you could add a fake contact in the country of your choice to end up over there.
Nevertheless....this is an inconvenient bug since it doesn't allow you to travel or plan through whole of Europe

i wonder if the selection of country is in the map or in the application. eg. if we install an old map (version 7 or 6) do you get 1 list with all city's of europe?
so tomtom has some work to do again to fix this bug.

if you remove the mapsettings.cfg in the map-directory before starting tomtom you get the question once to wich country you want to navigate
so, a little, workaround. you also loose your home adres and favoutites i guess...
but it works... just that you know

well, that's kind a strange isn't it? can you use the up and down-button when selecting a city and when selecting a road? are you using version 7.915 and not 7.910?
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I tried blue and black version. I think it was black wich did not let me select something with the up and down keys. So try both versions.
By the way installation failed every time on my Vox (Rose v.0.4)
So I extracted the files with win ce extractor, putted them on the root of the SD card and all went well.

Ierlanfdan said:
I tried blue and black version. I think it was black wich did not let me select something with the up and down keys. So try both versions.
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I Can Confirm that! Smartphone users can take advantages ONLY from the blue one! And this ends my adventure with tom tom.

help
i have a vox with original ROM (mobile 6) and i can't install the tomtom... it start the cab and suddenly stops and go back to home screen...
does anyone can help me... I've tried the qvga version black and the ttn7.915.9196.qvga_blue_cuckoo.cab. both do the same thing.... they start and suddendly stop...
the install bar doesn´t move, and the waiting color circle disappears and go back to home screen...
can you put here the link to the version you have for me to try??
thank you and sorry for my bad english....

It's for PPC, you can't instaqll on a Smartphone, so you have to use this method
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3224919&postcount=776

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It's for PPC, you can't instaqll on a Smartphone, so you have to use this method
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3224919&postcount=776
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i try it but i can't copy the shortcut.... said i can't do it... any alternative method to copy it...
thank you...

New Version TomTom Navigator supports Non Touch Screen

The newest version of TomTom Navigator supports non touch screen devices.
I stumbled in this information by accident and thought it would be usefull over here.
I've tested it on a HTC StarTrek (qtek 8500 etc) with a WM 6.1 standard ROM and it works like a charm with the newest maps.
No more FakeCursor needed, you can scroll and use numeric keypad
Version is: 7.915.9196.
Because of slightly warez related.....google is our best friend.

How I combined 7.450 and 7.915 to get it working on my SAMSUNG JACK i637
Hey guys, I bought a Samsung JACK (637) a couple of months ago and really wanted to install a GPS software to use with my Bluetooth GPS receiver. So I spent a lot of time searching and researching my options. Since I used to use TomTom on my iPaq 2495, I decided to go with that.
I found that I had to spend MORE time on figuring out the RIGHT version of Tomtom Navigator and the combined MAP than I anticipated.
TO CUT TO THE CHASE, after experimenting a few version (6.xxxx, 7.450.xxxx, 7.910.xxxx, and 7.915.xxxx) I realized that the 7.450.9028 version works best but NOT without the following FLAWS:
7.915.9196 - Scrolling works for the menu items but NOT for useful features such as searching for address, and POIs, and even setting up the COM PORT for the GPS.
TO SOLVE THIS PROBLEM, I combined two versions: the 7.450 and 7.915. Here's HOW:
The problem with 7.450.9028, at least for me, was that:
Searching for POI using the 'ANY CATEGORY' option yields 'NO POI FOUND' all the time.
It couldn't search through the POI database using KEYWORDS. The version of map I tried is 720 and it sure isn't the problem.
So, I made my OWN version:
1) Install 7.450.9028 on your PDA/SMARTPHONE
2) Copy the Navigator directory from /Program Files/ on your device to your Hard Drive.
3) Remove TOMTOM from your device.
4) Install 7.915.9196 on your device.
5) Replace all files except "TomTom Navigator.exe" in Navigator directory of the new installation with those in the Navigator directory indicated in step 2).
6) DONE
I now have a version of Tomtom with the 7.915 main program file and the 7.450 system files.
Now I can search POIs by keyword AND scroll with my UP and DOWN buttons.
These are instructions I think might be useful for at least some people. But I leave you to buy your own copies of the program and MAP so don't ask me for them.
I haven't tested with the more recent 840.2563 maps but I foresee for this to work with it, too.

That's interesting - also stumbled over the sudden "smartphone mode" in the latest version when playing with KS20 and my old Vox back and forth. I noticed though, that the menus in the "smartphone mode" are different from the normal "touchscreen mode".
Especially:
- no (direct) option to delete a route (plan a new route and abort when it starts to calculate immediately instead)
- useless menu to "manage phones"
It looks as if TT is in some mode intended for onboard car device.
What happens if you use the "manage Phones" menu (2.4)?
Your merged TT Versions should relate to the data.chk file (the other big file aside the TT.exe) - so maybe there is easier way to get it replaced. Merging data.chk and TomTom...exe with different versions did not work for me though, but you brought back the attention that it actually works as well (with minor quirks).
Just re-checked if everything works allright with scrolling on the VOX and Tornado - and it does (my Tornado is on WM6 cooked ROM, so not WM5) and the VOX is with Stock ROM 6.0 - so no problems with scrolling here.
The 7.915 had other side-effects, if I remember right like disconnecting BT-GPS in background, so you can't use it as "voice only". Will have to actually use it in real life to see if it works as reliable as the TT5.2 does (depite the maps are getting really outdated...)

tobbbie said:
That's interesting - also stumbled over the sudden "smartphone mode" in the latest version when playing with KS20 and my old Vox back and forth. I noticed though, that the menus in the "smartphone mode" are different from the normal "touchscreen mode".
Especially:
- no (direct) option to delete a route (plan a new route and abort when it starts to calculate immediately instead)
- useless menu to "manage phones"
It looks as if TT is in some mode intended for onboard car device.
What happens if you use the "manage Phones" menu (2.4)?
Your merged TT Versions should relate to the data.chk file (the other big file aside the TT.exe) - so maybe there is easier way to get it replaced. Merging data.chk and TomTom...exe with different versions did not work for me though, but you brought back the attention that it actually works as well (with minor quirks).
Just re-checked if everything works allright with scrolling on the VOX and Tornado - and it does (my Tornado is on WM6 cooked ROM, so not WM5) and the VOX is with Stock ROM 6.0 - so no problems with scrolling here.
The 7.915 had other side-effects, if I remember right like disconnecting BT-GPS in background, so you can't use it as "voice only". Will have to actually use it in real life to see if it works as reliable as the TT5.2 does (depite the maps are getting really outdated...)
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I'm strictly using the PPC version of TT so there is no such option as “smartphone mode".
The hybrid 7.915 is pretty stable right now except for the "Start-up Preferences" that would always lead to a crash with "Not enough memory" error.
I also found that if you selected your STATE when inputting your HOME LOCATION during initial setup, TT will remain locked to that state (i.e.: only addresses in your specified state will be indexed during searches). The solution I applied was to simply do a "RESET FACTORY SETTINGS" (under Preferences) and select USA when selecting a HOME LOCATION.
It's frustrating to see that TT has yet to come out with a version that is compatible with all smart phones. I guess we shouldn't put all the blame on TT when manufacturers constantly come out with new ways to confuse us with unique button mapping schemes.
I didn't have problems with bluetooth. I think you're talking about automatic disconnections caused by the time-out setting in the phone. On my Samsung JACK, I basically set my phone to never dim the screen nor go back to home screen unless I manually LOCK the keypad. I can even use my BT headset and BT GPS receiver simultaneously connected to the phone. Now, the only time my GPS disconnects is when i get an incoming call. An inconvenience to say the most and hardly an annoyance. The only annoyance is that the battery would be drained if I forget to lock the keypad or if I leave an unanswered call log unattended (screen always on).
CHEERS!

What I mean is that the menus that the very same program (installed on just ONE microSD card) shows are different when I start it on my smartphones (HTC Vox/S710 or HTC Tornado) or on my PocketPC (LG KS20). You may not have noticed this as you are using it on a non-touchscreen device (aka "Smartphone") only.
I cannot do a side-by-side compare easily as the card can only be in either one or the other device...
A sure proof for this is that there is a menu "manage phones" (translated from my German version) on the second page of the main menu. On the PocketPC this is not present.
Also the item "delete route" (PPC on the 3.rd page) is not there when I start it on the smartphone.
Last, the smartphone menus show a digit (1,2,3,5,6) aside a list-like menu item while on the PPC this is a 2x3 icon layout and no digits shown.
Dropping the BT connection if sent to background does not happen on my PPC as well, but this is using a different BT-stack (Widcomm/Broadcom) while my smartphones use the Microsoft BT-stack.
Can you please tell about the menu specialties that I desribed - do you see these as well?

tobbbie said:
What I mean is that the menus that the very same program (installed on just ONE microSD card) shows are different when I start it on my smartphones (HTC Vox/S710 or HTC Tornado) or on my PocketPC (LG KS20). You may not have noticed this as you are using it on a non-touchscreen device (aka "Smartphone") only.
I cannot do a side-by-side compare easily as the card can only be in either one or the other device...
A sure proof for this is that there is a menu "manage phones" (translated from my German version) on the second page of the main menu. On the PocketPC this is not present.
Also the item "delete route" (PPC on the 3.rd page) is not there when I start it on the smartphone.
Last, the smartphone menus show a digit (1,2,3,5,6) aside a list-like menu item while on the PPC this is a 2x3 icon layout and no digits shown.
Dropping the BT connection if sent to background does not happen on my PPC as well, but this is using a different BT-stack (Widcomm/Broadcom) while my smartphones use the Microsoft BT-stack.
Can you please tell about the menu specialties that I desribed - do you see these as well?
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Are you saying that two different interfaces are supported by the same TT version?
Yep, the menu items are numbered exactly like you said.
On Main Menu - page 3, 'Delete Route' option is absent.
Also, I actually never noticed that there is in fact a Manage Phones option on Page 2 of 3. I'm not sure what this option does on my phone because all it does is bring a screen asking "Do you want to connect to "?".
I did use TT Navigator v6 on my HP iPaq hx2495 before. The installation was for touch-screen PPC but I really can't remember all the details. I could go back and have a look, though and even try to run my "hybrid" version on it through an SD adapter.
By the way, I have a 4hz Bluetooth GPS but my TT MAP is being updated at 1HZ. Is there any way to change this setting in TT? 7.450.XXXX used to update the map at 4hz. Perhaps it's not supported by 7.915.xxxx?