This is my first time and reading the instructions is not rocket science. So here we go.
I have a Treo 750 from ATT, I have the CHEEDIAG.NBH and CHEEIMG.NBH
I format my mini sd card in FAT32
I push the PTTApp Button and reset nothing ever happens. What the heck am I doing wrong. It never does anything but go back to my same WM 5.0 screen. I get nothing. Can someone please help me out. This is really starting to suck, thanks in advance.
I start with the CHEEDIAG.NBH and it is just rebooting with nothing happening.
darthmauler said:
This is my first time and reading the instructions is not rocket science. So here we go.
I have a Treo 750 from ATT, I have the CHEEDIAG.NBH and CHEEIMG.NBH
I format my mini sd card in FAT32
I push the PTTApp Button and reset nothing ever happens. What the heck am I doing wrong. It never does anything but go back to my same WM 5.0 screen. I get nothing. Can someone please help me out. This is really starting to suck, thanks in advance.
I start with the CHEEDIAG.NBH and it is just rebooting with nothing happening.
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CHEEIMG.nbh probably is case sensitive
Aloha,
I did the same.
push the 3rd button below two volume buttons on the side.
Sooooo
So once I get this done I will have Windows Mobile 6.0? The loading for the cheediag is going right now and it is taking a while, will post back on it, thanks.
The update worked, I was hitting the wrong button, I used 2 different cheeimg.nbh and the first one didn't work, but the second one did and it worked fine, thanks for your help with the device upgrade.
I've been at this for 2 days now with no luck. I have my Tilt and I want to use Dutty's Rom V3. I've tried HardSPL sereval times with no luck. I use Vista and that seems to be the problem. I've tried using the method offered by the MrVanX website. Still nothing. I've searched the forums like crazy looking at a bunch of different solutions and trying them but nothing.
Is anybody willing to talk me through it on AIM. My SN is scoorch33.
My bootloader screen shows the thing below, and thats it.
KAIS1*0
SPL-1.56.0000
CPLD-8
Everything you need my friend is right here on this site. Sometimes it may take a day of reading before you find the answer, but trust me, anything that you are experiencing, someone else has already had and found a solution for that particular problem. For the hard_spl problem, which is the first thing that needs to be done, try this thread...it helped me http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=354061
I tried using the solutions from that page. I did what the instructions say and during the bootloader screen I get something like this.
KAIS1*0
Jump SPL
CPLD-8
After that I try what it suggests, running the Splash screen application but nothing happens. I extract the files onto my Desktop of my PC and I double click.
A MS-DOS prompt appears for a split second and then disappears. The same happens when I run KaiserCustomeRUU.exe. A brief flash of a dos prompt and then nothing.
My phone stays in the bootloader screen the entire time and then I soft reset, but there are no visible changes to the phone.
Maybe I'm doing it wrong.
I'm trying to do the White Screen Solution Method of flashing the phone. Right now the phone won't even stay on without the SIM card in. It gets to me entering the password and then shuts down and restarts again.
So I run the JumpSPL on my phone and it goes to tricolor mode.
I unplug and plug the USB cable. I then try to run the suggested RUU program. The progam flashes up for a second. I don't even see what it says. The phone still stays in tricolor mode.
Phone doesn't restart until I do a soft reset.
Anybody have any suggestions?
I got it to work.
Found an old harddrive and loaded up XP and did everything.
SBZRO said:
I got it to work.
Found an old harddrive and loaded up XP and did everything.
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hmmm trying to use vista I see...
It looks like I may be needing to send my phone in for warranty work. The only thing is... the reason why is i may have to send it in is because my phone will no longer connnect to any computer. It is not just active sync but even bootloader seems stuck on just "serial" and never moves on to "USB". I have changed cables, changed computers, cleaned contacts and everything else I can think of.
I have read the "reverting back to OEM" and have tried running jumpSPL but it seems that unlike the bootloader, jumpSPL does not search through SD for an image. You must load one from your PC, which sadly I can not do.
If anyone has any thoughts or suggestions on what can be done either to reflash SPL or anything else to help remmedy my problems please let me know. Thank you.
***UPDATE***: After another cleaning and bit of pin tweaking I managed to my phone to connnect!!! So my mini usb port isn't bad after all. Happiest day of my life since installing HardSPL and flashing my first cooked ROM!
However, thinking about it... this still may be a valid topic for someone else facing a similiar situation.
Yes. You can flash anything from an SD card. Security Unlock or HardSPL is usually necesary though. I won't steal anyones thunder, but I will say FOR NOW!
Hello First all I am a new owner but I have tried looking for answers elsewhere with out much success. If I can be pointed else please let me know and I will look further.
If not I beg indulgence,
I have tried several times to do the clearing of the ATT stuff on my phone by using HARDSPL but I am not sure if it done? I do not notice any change at this point.
Here is what I have done
I installed the active sync on my computer and then plugged my phone into the USB connection cables to my system and achieved connection at least according to my computer.
I then browse to the HARDSPL (RaphaelHardSPL-Unsigned_190_1_3.exe) and execute it. It says that it takes about 10 minutes
It goes through the standard checks which I agree to and then it verifies for itself.
The first time it seemed to go good but the whole thing took less than 15 seconds and it said installation 100% and I had to exit
But when the phone was turned on there was no visible change
So I thought it actually failed
Subsequent attempts have followed this scenario
I achieve active sync with my PC and am connected to it
I browse to the HARDSPL mentioned above and execute it
Then the screen on my FUZE goes blank and after a little while I get an unrecognized device connection from Windows
After a few more minutes I get a message from the HARDSPL install that the connection was lost and I have no choice but to exit
The phone usually will not turn back on until I remove and put back the battery then the phone turns on normally with no visual change noticable.
So I still do not think that it succeeded
So I tried this
I have a 4G SD card and I created a folder called HARDSPL and put the files opened when I execute the self extracting file above into this folder
I browse to it and excute the file from the phone itself.
Again the screen goes blank after a few seconds and I waited at least 30 minutes now this time the only thing that is different is that the phone seemed to get real warm. Then it cooled back down
After I turned the phone on again it seemed no different.
I was expecting all of my content to disappear(contacts songs) but they are still there when I look at the ROM it says this
ROM version 1.95.502.5 WWE
ROM date 10/20/08
Radio Version 1.02.25.32
PROTOCOL 52.39c.25.22H
Now after thinking about this maybe the HARD SPL is only the first step
Maybe the HARDSPL worked and I need to now LOAD a new ROM and then my phone will be clean
The part that confuses me is the process never quite worked as I was expecting it to so I am unclear if it succeeded or failed
Is there a way to see if the HARDSPL actually succeeded or not and if it did not HOW can do it successfully
I am trying to do things exactly as others have done because I do not want a BRICKED phone so I am a bit confused at this point as to what to do next
I would GREATLY appreciate any and all help with this
Boot to tri-color. It will tell you the SPL version. HardSPL will have OliNex signature. Check noob section in Wiki for how to boot to tri-color.
Thank you I powered down and held the volume down while turning the phone on and I came up with the following:
RAPH110
SPL-190.OliNex
MicroP-Raph (LED) v13
MicroP-Raph (KEY) v5
PSOC-RAPH STAGE_CUT v0x36
so I assume that HARDSPL worked and now I can go about loading a new ROM
I was thinking about RRE 5.8 21042 with Manilla. Is this a good choice to begin with or would anyone suggest anything else
There aren't any good answers for ROMs. Maybe you might want to try cooking one for yourself. Ervius' PkgToolsBuildOs kitchen makes it simple now. Locate Da_G's simple ROM kitchen thread for a place to start.
I would suggest Da G's 6.5 ROM. If you want TF3D then use the kitchen for the 6.5 ROM
thanks for help guys
Which process in my original post, in anyones opinion, was the one that actually worked to get HARDSPL on my phone
The first thing you did was good enough for the HardSPL.
Good Luck and Have fun with the ROMs
jjanes0918 said:
Which process in my original post, in anyones opinion, was the one that actually worked to get HARDSPL on my phone
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It only takes about 30 seconds to flash hard spl (10 min is how long a full ROM takes, the utility doesn't know what you're flashing, it says that every time); you did it correctly, so it's time to move on. Flash a bunch of different roms. Do 10 a day. Knock yourself out and have fun.
assassin82492 said:
I would suggest Da G's 6.5 ROM. If you want TF3D then use the kitchen for the 6.5 ROM
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Still experimental though. Long list of bugs still but vc taste of the new OS.
jjanes0918 said:
I was thinking about RRE 5.8 21042 with Manilla. Is this a good choice to begin with or would anyone suggest anything else
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Just getting started I would either go with RRE or RomeOS. Both are good stable roms. Keep in mind though that ALL roms on here are somewhat experimental and are prone to bugs and other issues.
You may want to also read this thread as well as both links in my signiture. When you do flash a new rom please read the thread for that rom in its entirety (I know they are long) so that you know what issues are already discussed or solved and do not ask about something that has already been handled.
Thanks again all
a few questions but first a ROM listing I have in place now:
LocateCaller2r2.cab
netcallerid.cab
both these are really cool one lets you get city and state info before you answer
the other give pretty detailed info after including believe it or not relatives of the caller I tried from my parents phone to my cell and all of my brothers and my sister and even my ex wife showed up in a text message after the call was finished. WOH!
nitrogen-0.2.1-wm6-vga.cab
rre
touch pro
touchresponse
voice speed
have had the chance to try all of these out yet but so far so good now to the questions it seems that my zoom capability (moving around the large central button while a web page is being shown)is missing now. I understand that when I took off the AT&T stuff i would need to reload things. So I am not disappointed
but if some one knows what ROM I could load to get that back it would be great the version of RRE I loaded came with Manilla
So question 2 If I needed to say get rid of a certain MOD say the nitrogen MOD listed above how is that done Do I start over with the base MODS again and thenn simply not load it this time around or is there a simple way to unload a particular ROM.
Why is the 50% battery requirement in place is that just a safeguard against the phone going dead within 10 minutes.
What exactly does the HARDSPL do I found all kinds of stuff on why to use it and threads on how to do it and what to do after you do it and I know you can put the original ROMS back on the phone for warranty issues but how does it work?
Please forgive the NOOB questions hopefully I will graduate soon
Good day.......
I am mailing out of real frustration.
I don't know if this is allowed.
I collected a cingular 8125 from a friend in the UK.
I noticed on starting up that there was Tmobile screen first before the windows mobile screen starts. I had no problem with the fone until i realised that i couldnt connect to my local networks GPRS service (who uses a phone that can't browse)
After scanning thru the site, i decided to flash the phone with Crasing's WM6.5 ROM after doing a HardSPL and i could browse and it was the perfect phone apart from the fact that it was real slow and hangs attimes.
It got worse so i got fed up and decided to revert it back to the original ROM and sort the browsing stuff with a network fix that someone on this site had told me.
I reverted the hardSPL and on installing the Tmobile ROM, it brought out an error message, tried with the Cingular ROM same thing.
So i tired reflashing by using a software called Flash Center and it started and stopped at the 1%.
Restarting my phone just shows me the bootloader screen and i have been battling it constantly for 3 weeks but to no avail
I have read almost all forums here, done almost all they ask to do, but nothing.
The only ROM that worked on it is the WIZARD love ROM but it using exactly 21mins to start up. Thot of downloading Faria/Molski WM5 ROM (cos i sorta prefer going back to WM5) but the links for their downloads are dead.
Please help/direct me to where i can see help cos i really need the phone like 2 weeks ago. I am most definitely depressed now.
Thanks.
Check here for all HTC Wizard WM5 OEM shipped ROMS. The one for Cingular is listed in there.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Wizard_Windows_Mobile_5.0_Shipped_ROMs
You say the phone is a Cingular (G4 DOC version). Does it look like this one (click link ... http://www.brighthand.com/assets/4811.jpg ) with the Cingular logo on top left, etc?
Did you require the HardSPL to be able to flash to new ROM, or did you just use the SIM / CID unlocker using the Wizard Service Tool (note the Wizard Service Tool will only work for G3 DOC type device, not the G4 DOC devices)
You said you also removed the HardSPL. If you removed the HardSPL, then you can only flach the OEM ROMS (i.e., if yours is Cingular, then you can only flash the Cingular Stock ROM ... check link above and use Cingular 2.25 (click here ...
... http://www.4shared.com/file/BJUEhCC9/RUU_Wizard_Cingular_8125_WIZCN.html )
First do a battery pull, replace battery, then start device in bootloader mode (i.e., press and hold Camera button on side, then using the stylus press and release Reset button on same side. Do NOT power up the unit by trying to turn on using the Power button on top). Take note of IPL and SPL version that shows up on Bootloader (3 colour) screen. Then plug in USB and try re-flashing with Cingular OEM ROM.
After successful OEM ROM you can then try HardSPL again and re-flash to other ROMS. There are plenty of cooked WM5 and WM6.1 ROMS out there. The WM6.5 is too much (I think) for these devices. A neat clean simple WM5 or WM6.1 with overclocking works very good.
Regarding your settings for ISO, GPRS, WAP etc. you can look for a Netwrok Wizard cab file, and install ( heres the newest I could find ...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=121023&d=1223800573). This will install 6 files into the root Windows directory of the phone. Reboot the phone and you will notice the Network Wizard icon show up in the Settings/Connection control panel.
One of the files it installs is called provision.zip. You will want to update this by copying the following to the windows directory overwriting the old one. This contains all the settings for your phone. Once you copy this over, click on the wizard in the Connection Settings control panel, and it should give you options for Country and Cell Phone carrier/provider. Click away and it shoould automatically set up the correct info for WAP, GPRS, ISP, MMS, etc.
Good Luck. Let me know what happens.
WOW
Thanks for the response
I used the HardSPL to flash the new ROM.
I removed the HardSPL and the Olip in my IPL was changed back to the 2.26.0001
I tried the cingular 2.25 ROM but it says it wasn't meant for the device and most times the RUU doesn't recognise the phone. Tried the Tmobile 2.26 same thing.
Also used crossbow WM5 AKU2.3 and AKU3.3 ROMs they worked but fails at 96%
The only ROMs that worked is Wizard Love ROM but it spends about 20mins to get to the part where it asks you to align screen and it doesn't move from there
Thanks for the info on the WM5/WM6 also the network wizard cab file. Really hope that phone works
I'm a pretty desperate guy right now cos i use the phone to trade and money is moving, she(money) is a *****
WOW
Thanks for the response
About the pix you reffered to? Yes thats exactly how my phone looks like
I had used the HardSPL to flash the new ROM.
I removed the HardSPL and the Olip in my IPL was changed back to the 2.26.0001, SPL 2.26.0001
I tried the cingular 2.25 ROM but it says it wasn't meant for the device and most times the RUU doesn't recognise the phone. Tried the Tmobile 2.26 same thing.
Also used crossbow WM5 AKU2.3 and AKU3.3 ROMs they worked but fails at 96%
The only ROMs that worked is Wizard Love ROM but it spends about 20mins to get to the part where it asks you to align screen and it doesn't move from there
Thanks for the info on the WM5/WM6 also the network wizard cab file. Really hope that phone works
I'm a pretty desperate guy right now cos i use the phone to trade and money is moving, she(money) is a *****
PS: My IPL/SPL is 2.26.0001
OK. Good info.
Not sure how you did it but somehow you managed to get the T-Mobile IPL/SPL on it, and yet it still recognizes it is Cingular. For one reason or another one aspect does not let the other load and vice versa. ????? Hhhmmmnnn ????
Here is what I would try.
1) I have attached a zip file called SoftSPL. Inside I have made an image file nk.nbf, which contains ONLY the 2.25.0001 IPL and SPL for the Cingular 8125.
Unzip this folder to your Desktop and then try to run only the "newromupdateutility_wizard_noid.exe". Remember, start the phone up in bootloader mode, connect via USB then run the "newrom...exe" file. If you get an error right away saying this is not the right update utility for the phone or something like that, then start over ... i.e., disconnect phone, pull battery, start phone in bootloader mode,reconnect via USB, but this second time try using the one called "2.exe". I found sometimes when I flashed ROMS the first one did not work and the second one (2.exe) did for me.
IF this works, once you get the 2.25.0001 IPL and SPL showing on the bootloader screen then start again (pull battery etc. same as above) but then re-flash back to the original Cingular OEM 2.25 ROM that you tried earlier (the original RUU_Wizard_225111_22511102_022511_CWS_WWE_Ship_1.exe). Try this and let me know how it goes.
If and when you get it back to the original Cingular ROM, if you get to this point, you can then start back like it was when phone was "new". It will still be SIM unlocked so you can use any carriers SIM card but you cannot flash other ROMs.
If you are going to try other ROMs, re-apply the HardSPL, but make sure you only use ROMs that have been cooked, say they are safe for G4 devices and do not have IPL/SPL in them. This means when you have it HardSPL'd you cannot, or should not use other carriers OEM ROM's such as T-Mobile 2.26 or 3.08.
Lastly, if you do like some of the "extra's" offered with WM6 or higher and do not like a slow phone and want to keep it fast like a WM5 ROM, then stick to either WM6.0 or WM6.1, clean (or what they call Vanilla) ROMs.
Good Luck. Give feedback of how it works out for you and pay attention to errors and messages and IPL/SPL etc. for reporting back and I can help you a little more.
Another thanks again.
I really owe you if and when my phone is finally done cos i think i am getting there.
But i successfully changed the IPL/SPL but on flashing the cingular ROM it says the RUU cannot see my phone and once it sees that it says the update utility cannot be used for my phone.
So what next?
Maybe the ROM is not the right one but i ensure it was meant for g4 tho"
Tried MUN-RUU but to no avail
Eagerly waiting your reply.
Thanks again
OK. YES. You are getting there.
You say the phone is now IPL/SPL 2.25.0001. It shows this on the 3 colour bootloader screen?
What did you run in order to flash; did you run the "newromupdateutility_wizard.exe", or "2.exe", or did you need to run the "START-sSPL.exe" to flash th nk.nbf file I made? (I don't think the "START-sSPL.exe" works from the bootloader screen...phone has to be booted to working status).
Here's what is next. I made a new nk.nbf which is the Cingular 2.25 OS, splash screens and 2.25 radio only. I removed the IPL/SPL and the Extended_ROM, and cooked this back to nk.nbf.
Download it from here .....
http://www.fileswap.com/dl/7WhstX82/nk.nbf.html
..... and copy this to the folder you made of the SoftSPL earlier (overwriting the other nk.nbf - you may want to save that as a back up)
Now try flashing this new nk.nbf again as you did for the IPL/SPL.
If it works, then let the phone boot up completely. Check it out. And then you can run the RUU for the original Cingular OEM once the phone is booted to get it back to Cingular OEM state (full IPL/SPL, OS, GSM, Extended_ROM, etc.)
From here (if you make it) then any further flashing of ROMs, you will want to flash G4 safe ROM's, and you can do this using the SoftSPL folder. Copy the nk.nbf from the custom ROM you want to flash into the SoftSPL folder and run the "START-sSPL.exe" with your phone connected (not in bootloader mode, has to be completely started up and recognized by ActiveSync, but you do not need to establish partnership ... just skip/cancel that part and phone will connect to ActiveSync as a "Guest").
Good Luck. Let me know how you make out with this.
Just to answer your questions.
I ran the "newromupdateutility_wizard.exe"
Would follow thy new instruction sire and get back to thee.....lol
Thanks again.
I am not here to say "Yipee, its done'
But rather to say that the universe, cingular and the god of communication might have just conspired against me.
Just when i think i would finally get my phone working after 3 weeks, a 2 yr old kid took my batteries and only God know where that batteries is now.
Tried to buy a new one but all i get is "Wow! that a pretty old uncommon phone here"
I intend to use an ac to dc converter and when i am done i would give you the feedback
Thanks
PS: Just wanted to give you the heads-up
So i found the battery early this a.m.
Flashed the phone with the ROM you uploaded and it was succesful but on starting it i get a green screen and its damn slow and doesn't even pass the spot where you are asked to align screen (i really do think that nothing happen and its still the Wizard Love ROM that its still booting into)
So I am still stuck?
Hmmm....
OK i guess there might be a psych diagnosis for what i am doing (posting excessive replies without any respond)
It just a worried person.
So i kept re-trying to flash the ROM on my phone about 2ce.
Then i noticed on the 2nd time at about 86% the phone seemed to restart itself into bootloader mode about 2-3X, so i thot the battery was running out. Decided to take it out and get it charged.
On plugging the battery back to the phone all i got was a white screen and starting it on bootloader mode OR hard-resetting still gives me that white screen. On removing the battery the phone flashes like once or twice.
Is this the end? The phone has brought an apocalypse on?
Been doing a lot of browsing for clues but nothing tangible yet.
God smiled on me and the phone started
Got the ROM you gave me flashed and its really refreshing to see the Windows Mobile logo again
But i am stuck at the align screen tho'
I tap and nothing happens unless i drag the target and it just moves around and get back to the original spot.
Thats the latest pal.
OOPS. I did not read all .... your posts ... I just answered your post at the end of the last page. Did not see these last 2.
This is a good sign that you get past the initial boot splash screens and make it to the Align Screen ... soft reset the phone again and look at the IPL SPL that shows on the screen. Is it 2.25.0001 or 2.26.0001?
If 2.25.0001 then let the phone boot up to the Align Screen (and if you cannot get past this then just leave it at this point). Plug back into computer and now try to flash Cingular OEM ROM 2.25 that you tried earlier using the stock file.
If this doesn't let you flash for the same reasons as before (i.e., Invalid RUU tool or Not correct operator) then extract the nk.nbf from the Stock Cingular ROM (right click on the Cingular RUU OEM exe and select "Extract here ...".) then copy the nk.nbf over to the Soft SPL folder and use the START-sSPL.exe and flash this way. (you can delete the rest of the files from the Extract process.
Good Luck. Let me know the IPL SPL you get.
I know my posts are getting sickening but i am really desperate.
Got some info about how to bypass the align screen online but couldn't get my phone to boot anymore.
Soft reset/Hard reset/Bootloader mode: All of it just shows a white screen and nothin more.
Any ideas?
PS:The last time i could start the phone the IPL/SPL was 2.25.0001.
Just want to add this cos i just noticed it:
1. Sometimes tapping the Camera button alone puts the phone on (tho' it shows that annoying white screen)
2. On connecting the phone to a PC the PC recognises it even tho' its off and once i put it on and that annoying white screen comes on, the PC gives the same sound as when a USB is detached.
Hope these info would help.
I"m really getting depressed now. Hope's looking dimmer.
OK. I am now suspecting that you may also have a battery problem. How old is the battery. Could be the battery no longer has enough capacity. It may charge but only hold a charge for very short time and voltage may be too low. Maybe enough power to keep some of the electronics "awake" but not enough to drive the LCD.
It is now IPL/SPL 2.25.0001 so it should be able to flash the Cingular OEM ROM. You may want to try a different battery. Other than this, if not a problem with the battery then I think maybe phone itself is coming to an end.
I would try the battery route, making sure you have a good power source, and then try to flash the stock Cingular ROM.
You can still get these batteries on ebay and phone as well. If you are going to spend any money then maybe instead consider a newer model phone on ebay. (if you are patient you can find very good deal ... I got the T-Mo MDA Vario version of the Wizard (WIZA200) for $25 plus shipping, brand new with a carrying case. It was an estate item from a salesman who passed away and phone was not used before he passed on. One man's misfortune, another man's luck. I am now selling this on ebay plus memory card and earphone here ... http://bit.ly/hDHxrW. I have two more on sale at ebay here... http://bit.ly/eV0zZh ... and here ... http://bit.ly/gLIiKh. I am selling 3 and I have upgraded to Touch Pro 2. Go with AT&T version as this can beused world wide on 3G in North America and is quad band GSM for use in rest of world)
WOW
Thanks Bud
I would change the batteries and really don't mind buying another one but the only problem is i am not in USA nor Canada except i give an address in the US to send it to.
PS: Got to the links and it was a bidding process that was over by the time i got there. If anything opens up you can holla at me.
Would get back to you if there are any new developments
WOW
Thanks Bud
I would change the batteries and really don't mind buying another one but the only problem is i am not in USA nor Canada except i give an address in the US to send it to.
PS: Got to the links and it was a bidding process that was over by the time i got there. If anything opens up you can holla at me.
Would get back to you if there are any new developments
Cheap battery on ebay ..
http://cgi.ebay.ca/New-Li-ion-Batte...652056?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item5d2d297c58
http://cgi.ebay.ca/Battery-HTC-Wiza...163910?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item45f7ebb846
Phone
Wizards
http://cgi.ebay.ca/HTC-MDA-Mobile-S...0528835033?pt=Cell_Phones&hash=item4cf50dc5d9