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taskmanager to close programs completely?

is it possible to build/get a taskmanager like on PPCs with AKU3 and higher?
a programm that automatically COMPLETELY closes programs (more memory, no programs running in background anymore)?
why do they include it with PPCs but not with smartphones?
thx.

http://www.e-natives.web.id/
Try this

Don't the normal task manager shut down the programs ok?

zwuncki said:
is it possible to build/get a taskmanager like on PPCs with AKU3 and higher?
a programm that automatically COMPLETELY closes programs (more memory, no programs running in background anymore)?
why do they include it with PPCs but not with smartphones?
thx.
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man if you go to taskmanager in start menu, select it and press menu you can add a speed dial for it and then select what you want to close.

madds, are you klidding me?
why do u think i opened this thread? have you read what i've written here? i guess not. think before posting, gosh.

pinussen said:
Don't the normal task manager shut down the programs ok?
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it does but i wanna have a task manager like on the PPCs.
one where you don't have to start TM program to close other programs but one who does it automatically (look at HTCs taskmanager on newer PPCs).
@samyboy: thx, i'll take a look although from fit doesn't seem to be what i'm looking for, still thx.

Ok, but the program has a inbuilt task manager that is really good

Haven't used it myself, but read somewhere that someone was using xbar fine on S710. its designed for smartphones, unlike the other managers designed for PocketPC:
http://xetranet.free.fr/xbar2/?lang=eng&project=xBar 2&page=Presentation

Why doesn't microsofts own software have a exit button?

I think every software that i DL have a meny option "Exit" but microsofts own software thats included in the phone don't have this. I have to use task manager to quit this software. or Im i missing someting?

There's lots of software to do this eg Xbutton etc

yes maybe but why do they do it?

jonas18z said:
yes maybe but why do they do it?
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Because they're Microsoft. That should be enough explanation. Actually, their explanation is that they consider it is more memory efficient to leave programs in memory and let windows allocate the memory itself.

^ what he said. Microsoft wants so much to demonstrate that these phones are perfectly capable of multitasking that someone on the higher end decided that all programs shall remain open.
Causes all types of problems if this is done for a prolonged period - Note to M$: you can't just port winDOS code to mobile and hope it works.

think old wm devices were slower for some of those mem loading tasks
and in general people were using the same applications again and again
in which case it was easier to minimize them
an application you start ONLY! use as much mem as it was written to use
so if it use 2MB it dont run any faster if you have a pda with 2GB
and if WM starts to get low on mem it itself will unallocate memory from programs which havent been access'd for awhile so the program which require the mem can have it
this is why you dont normaly get an outof mem error with alot of applications running

and if WM starts to get low on mem it itself will unallocate memory from programs which havent been access'd for awhile so the program which require the mem can have it
this is why you dont normaly get an outof mem error with alot of applications running
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This has been proven to be patently false, I believe. WM2002 had out of memory errors. WM2003 won't allow anymore programs to run, and WM5 just hangs. Apparently M$ has a very, um, questionable definition about which program "hasn't been in use for awhile".

me too experienced out of mem errors repeatedly, usually it's enough to exit internet explorer which i use from time to time (it starts faster then opera and minimo)

Read this: http://blogs.msdn.com/windowsmobile/archive/2006/10/05/The-Emperor-Has-No-Close.aspx

the only microsoft application i've seen that actually closed and that had 'exit' option was comm manager i used for about a year. yesterday i changed rom (from 1.6.2.4 to T-Mobile 2.26 ROM) and i see that this mistake is corrected - the new comm manager present in this rom also has exit button, but as well as 'x' button it only minimises it. way to go M$! ;]

Is Opera a killer?

Hi.
I ve a Touch Pro with much ram. I can run many program at same time without problems (tomtom, newsbreak, palringo, etc). But when I run Opera many programs are closed / killed. I ve debugged it with my own program and Its the tipical way used by Windows same years old when a program requested much memory and needed to close others. So:
1) Windows sends (shoots) other programs with WM_CLOSE messages
2) After some seconds Windows Kills the programs that refused to close.
But It doesnt happens after soft reset. Only after several hours. Maybe because the memory is fragmented and Windows cant allocate a contigous chunck of memory to satisfy Opera.
Any thoughts?
Thanks
Dani

danielherrero said:
Hi.
I ve a Touch Pro with much ram. I can run many program at same time without problems (tomtom, newsbreak, palringo, etc). But when I run Opera many programs are closed / killed. I ve debugged it with my own program and Its the tipical way used by Windows same years old when a program requested much memory and needed to close others. So:
1) Windows sends (shoots) other programs with WM_CLOSE messages
2) After some seconds Windows Kills the programs that refused to close.
But It doesnt happens after soft reset. Only after several hours. Maybe because the memory is fragmented and Windows cant allocate a contigous chunck of memory to satisfy Opera.
Any thoughts?
Thanks
Dani
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HTC Task manager by default (i think) will "autokill" programs. Install advanced config and disable the autokill setting on the task manager with it. do a soft reset and it shouldnt do that any more.

But I dont use Task Manager. Just open a few programs (after several hours without reset). Then open opera and after some seconds some of the previous programs were closed....

I believe that the Task Manager is still inbuilt and thus you need to get rid of it and install the one mrvanx suggested.
Cheers

danielherrero said:
But I dont use Task Manager. Just open a few programs (after several hours without reset). Then open opera and after some seconds some of the previous programs were closed....
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Hi Dani
As long as you're using TF3D, its taskmanager is running and killing programs if available memory goes beneath ~120 MB. You may change this threshold via avanced config (I think).
ULI
PS: don't do too much internet surfing - we're waiting for the new skin..

Try http://www.ppcsg.com/index.php?showtopic=102040&view=findpost&p=749414 and http://www.ppcsg.com/index.php?act=findpost&pid=749168

Help with autokilling of app

Hello to everyone,
I have some problem with my wizard. App are autokilling ( i.e coreplayer, audio manager, wmp or etc ).
I have a another device thats HTC Hermes and there is no problem like this.
When I will be playing songs in background with some other app run in my HTC Hermes which has only 2 mb RAM free but still the audio manager will be playing and will not autokill. But in my wizard there is more than 10 mb free and audio manager will be autokilled if I run any other app.
I have also disabled the "enableautokill" option in registry thats for task manager. But still I have the app are killing. I also tried uninstalling task manager but no luck....
Can any one plz help.....
Thanks in advance

I do struggle wie the same issue. I can't run two or more apps alongside either.
Cheers

ksrikanth said:
Hello to everyone,
I have some problem with my wizard. App are autokilling ( i.e coreplayer, audio manager, wmp or etc ).
I have a another device thats HTC Hermes and there is no problem like this.
When I will be playing songs in background with some other app run in my HTC Hermes which has only 2 mb RAM free but still the audio manager will be playing and will not autokill. But in my wizard there is more than 10 mb free and audio manager will be autokilled if I run any other app.
I have also disabled the "enableautokill" option in registry thats for task manager. But still I have the app are killing. I also tried uninstalling task manager but no luck....
Can any one plz help.....
Thanks in advance
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I have the same issue here too. My MWg Zinc II shutdown applications running at the background on it's own where there's less than about 10MB RAM memory available. My MWg Zinc II comes with only slightly more than 30MB of RAM for use out of the box.
Some tips over here:
1. go to “Settings” > “System” and click on “Error Reporting”. Make sure its disabled (we don’t need that service).
2. go to “Windows” > “Start Up” folder, and check how many things You have there, see what really needs to start up with the OS, and delete others
3. softwares
Oxios Memory, it’s a freeware tool that attempts to release as much memory as possible without damaging the internal state of the Windows Mobile device (Pocket PC or Smartphone). Oxios CloseApps closes down other applications by sending “Close” messages. Oxios Memory have two options:
Oxios Hibernate 1.40
WM_HIBERNATE is a window message that is generated by the Windows operating system and sent to an application when system resources are running low. All applications should get the message and handle it by attempting to release as many resources as possible by unloading processes, destroying windows, or freeing up as much local storage as possible without damaging the internal state of the system. Oxios Hibernate sends WM_HIBERNATE to all applications:
Oxios CloseApps 1.40
Each process started on a Windows Mobile-based Smartphone allocates memory, which cannot be released but is automatically freed when the application process ends.
Oxios CloseApps closes down all applications by sending WM_CLOSE messages.
SKTools (It’s not freeware)
Second tool that we can use, it’s a very powerfull utility program for Windows Mobile with many functions, but today we will take a look at the option called “FreeUP RAM”.
This option can free up 50K-2M of RAM, send hibernation message, compact heaps, limitate the “memory low” situation, close tasks and also a scheduler for silent background start.

I currently use ES Task manger on Android.
is there any other way to automatically kill background processes?
Kind Regards

i do not recommend auto killer, try manually

WM6 memory manager: possible to leave more apps open?

Hi, I have moved from HTC Tornado to Samsung i600 (with WM6), and I think that it kills background applications very eagerly:
For example, on HTC Tornado I could run JVM (opera mini), media player, browser, IM, Total commander and even though the memory was almost full, everything worked, and I could return to a page in opera mini after a day of other work.
Not so on i600, usually running WMP and IE is enough to get JVM in background killed, even though there's enough (12MB+) of free RAM. I think that it kills background tasks too eagerly...
I did know about a registry key that changes memory manager's behaviour, but I cannot google it (no matter the phrase I use, I get mostly task-manager tools).
Can you remind me of correct registry path? Thanks!
I found http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...&postcount=228 , but it is only for HTC devices (I don't have the HTC reg key). And http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=373128 discusses this as well, but again, no solution for non-HTC phones.

Wohoo, it should be this: http://www.howardforums.com/archive/topic/540062-1.html
Trying to make the best of both worlds, I decided that perhaps the MPx220 is worth taking another look at if the memory management issue could be resolved. After all, with Media Works, I want to keep Agile Messenger open all day to receive IMs, while using the phone, surfing, playing games, etc.
Then, it dawned on me - why is the Audiovox SMT5600 with an apparently older revision of WM2K3 running things better than the newer MPx220?
A couple of registry keys.
MPx220:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Shell\LowMem ]
"ResetDivision"=dword:1
"ProgramMem"=dword:32
SMT5600:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Shell\LowMem ]
"ResetDivision"=dword:0
"ProgramMem"=dword:96
After forcing in the SMT5600 settings on the MPx220, I ran Agile Messenger and connected. Then, I ran Internet Explorer. Launched Agile again, and same copy of Agile still came back, still connected. Launched MSN Messenger. Launched Agile again, still accessible and running. Launched Tasks, Contacts, Calendar, File Manager, Resource Management. Returned to Agile Messenger, still running! With all these programs running simultaneously, Agile Messenger is still active and connected!
With the original registry settings, Agile Messenger would get lost in the memory and a new instance of Agile Messenger would launch, and not be able to connect because the original copy was still connected.
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I'd be happy if I had those registry entries... but I don't. Did it really work?

Yes, it works, now I can have many apps open, and even with 2MB of free RAM, none will be closed. If you don't have the keys, try creating them, as far as I know, it should work on at least all smartphones (maybe touchscreen devices as well but I don't have one to test)