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I am wondering whether or not the Raphael has USB Host functionality? I read this on some internet sites, but searching the Wiki and other avaliable informative websites couldn't bring light to this issue. I know that HTCs ExtUSB only is a proprietary connector, enhancing the USB Port with audio and video functionality. This is not what I'm talking about!
Host USB allows devices to act as an USB host (like a computer) and as such access USB-Devices like harddrives or USB sticks, which is more than convinient. As some other Pocket PC have it, I'm hoping deeply my future playmate has it also.
Maybe some of the lucky users could verify?
Thanks!
Doesn't look like it'll have any host facility no. The only HTC device ive seen with host are the bigger HTC Advantage's which have a normal USB port. I dont think the Qualcomm chipset offers USB host either.
This would be a nice thing to have...
I am still owner of a PocketLoox 720 which is capable of accessing USB sticks and USB HD.
It'd be nice. But I guess it would eat the battery.
I think I saw somewhere a USB bluetooth thingy that enables you to read USB sticks via Bluetooth.
well to be precise both the diamond and raphael have some interesting host ability - in SPL you can set usb host to read NBH file off usb. however you need the right adapter cable, so I haven't tried that yet on the diamond (and no raphael yet).
cmonex said:
well to be precise both the diamond and raphael have some interesting host ability - in SPL you can set usb host to read NBH file off usb. however you need the right adapter cable, so I haven't tried that yet on the diamond (and no raphael yet).
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What an interesting feature... Maybe it's for service centres to unbrick warranty returns easily?
Rory
cmonex said:
well to be precise both the diamond and raphael have some interesting host ability - in SPL you can set usb host to read NBH file off usb. however you need the right adapter cable, so I haven't tried that yet on the diamond (and no raphael yet).
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Have you tried with the Athena USB host cable?
Pantaloonie said:
Have you tried with the Athena USB host cable?
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oh hmm. does that cable plug in the miniusb port of the athena?
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oh hmm. does that cable plug in the miniusb port of the athena?
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Yes it does, I was hoping it would work with the Diamond and Raphael.
Pantaloonie said:
Yes it does, I was hoping it would work with the Diamond and Raphael.
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mm, thought it plugged in the other port on the athena...because it also handles vga out (the 4 in 1 cable). and this other port (beside the miniusb sync port) has the icons vga out and usb host.
that is clearly not the same socket as the miniusb (i.e. the sync port).
the diamond & raphael unfortunately only have this miniusb (which is for the sync on athena).
You're right - It's been so long since I used the USB host on the Athena I'd forgotten which port it uses.
Back to the drawing board on that one I guess.
Pantaloonie said:
You're right - It's been so long since I used the USB host on the Athena I'd forgotten which port it uses.
Back to the drawing board on that one I guess.
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yeah, I also have the 4 in 1 somewhere in the drawer
I only got it to have all cool accessories for my Athena.
anyway, I'll update the thread if I find out more about the cable needed for diamond/raphael
I read in the Diamond service manual (foeund somewhere on the forum here) about using an USB SD-card reader on the sync port on the Diamond. It is used when servicing the phone to upload firmware and test software to the internal storage.
On the picture it looks just like a normal sd card reader that is plugged into a standard USB port on one of the ends on the cable. it is a Y cable where one end is power, one USB and one mini usb to plug in the phone.
I am just doing some tests on this now. I made a usb cable with mini usb in one end and normal usb in the other end. On the on ememstick I have here in the office nothing happens.I will continue to look into this matter.
holy moses. I got something working here!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I had to rebuild my cable a little bit here to get this working.
The new external USB port is now powered from a 5Volts source. I have cut the 5 volts connection between my Diamond and my USB memory.
I am using a standard USB flash memory which i got at some commercial stuff long time ago.
I formatted the USB stick to FAT32 on my computer first.
The thing I tried was:
downloade a custom firmware.
copied the xxx.nbh file to the flash
renamed it to "DIAMIMG.NBH" Capital letters!!
Started up the phone holding VOLUME DOWN and RIGHT button down while giving the power button a short push.
It fired up the Olimex boot scene and asked me to push power button to confirm flashing.
After that it flashed my phone for about 10 minutes (from the USB flash memory)
So there is NO DOUBT, the Diamond has USB master capabilities!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
When I am in file explorer I still can't get in contact with the memory.
Anyone that has the USB drivers from som larger HTC device????
Can anyone try to flash a phone with an un signed firmware or a firmware from wrong region on a phone that has the original bootloader using this method?
Does anyone know how to use external memory by usb hosting
zeb crs said:
holy moses. I got something working here!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I had to rebuild my cable a little bit here to get this working.
The new external USB port is now powered from a 5Volts source. I have cut the 5 volts connection between my Diamond and my USB memory.
I am using a standard USB flash memory which i got at some commercial stuff long time ago.
I formatted the USB stick to FAT32 on my computer first.
The thing I tried was:
downloade a custom firmware.
copied the xxx.nbh file to the flash
renamed it to "DIAMIMG.NBH" Capital letters!!
Started up the phone holding VOLUME DOWN and RIGHT button down while giving the power button a short push.
It fired up the Olimex boot scene and asked me to push power button to confirm flashing.
After that it flashed my phone for about 10 minutes (from the USB flash memory)
So there is NO DOUBT, the Diamond has USB master capabilities!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
When I am in file explorer I still can't get in contact with the memory.
Anyone that has the USB drivers from som larger HTC device????
Can anyone try to flash a phone with an un signed firmware or a firmware from wrong region on a phone that has the original bootloader using this method?
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heh, you were faster at building the cable congrats.
btw, what special modifications did you need to make? just the 5V source?
anyway, this just confirms what i found in bootloader disassembly then.
not sure on the availability of usb host drivers. maybe we will need to implement it ourselves
and sorry, but i do not understand the question about flashing unsigned stuff. the stock bootloader will not accept unsigned NBH, no matter where it comes from, sorry to disappoint you.
EDIT: I downloaded the service manual now, thanks. wasn't aware this was out in the open
anyway, the text mentions you must plug in AC power for the USB host. what a shame.
zeb crs said:
When I am in file explorer I still can't get in contact with the memory.
Anyone that has the USB drivers from som larger HTC device????
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Just an idea, have you tried to start WM5torage on Diamond ?
It lists the MovieNAND and the system partition. OK, you can't take access to it, but maybe WM5torage recognizes the USB stick from OS.
If it does, maybe a modified version of WM5torage can do these job ?
For short test download here:
WM5torage
Ok, WM5torage isn't the right way to test the access from OS, because it needs at last a running driver.
Qualcomm was running Oxford Semiconductor solutions, maybe the integrated USB OTG is a license from this company ?
@cmonex:
Is it possible to adapt the integrated bootloader driver to WM ?
USB drive is HTC supported
I just read through the US user manual and Section 1.13 Using you Device as a USB Drive. http://member.america.htc.com/downl...al/HTC_Touch_Pro/HTC_Touch_Pro_English_UM.pdf
Quote:
To easily carry media and other files with you, you can use your device’s storage
card as a USB flash drive. Touch Start > Settings > Connections tab > USB to PC
and then select Disk Drive mode. This allows you to copy files from your computer
to the device’s storage card and vice versa faster.
Note You need to have a storage card installed on your device to be able to use your device
as a disk drive.
When Disk Drive mode is used:
You will not be able to use your device to access files from the storage card
or run applications that are installed on the storage card while the device is
connected to your PC.
Your PC will only connect to the device’s storage card. When you access your
device from the PC, you will only see the contents of the device’s storage card.
Remember to change back to ActiveSync mode when you need to synchronize
data between your device and your PC.
USB Host is different.
Mechanicaldan said:
I just read through the US user manual and Section 1.13 Using you Device as a USB Drive. http://member.america.htc.com/downl...al/HTC_Touch_Pro/HTC_Touch_Pro_English_UM.pdf
Quote:
To easily carry media and other files with you, you can use your device’s storage
card as a USB flash drive. Touch Start > Settings > Connections tab > USB to PC
and then select Disk Drive mode. This allows you to copy files from your computer
to the device’s storage card and vice versa faster.
Note You need to have a storage card installed on your device to be able to use your device
as a disk drive.
When Disk Drive mode is used:
You will not be able to use your device to access files from the storage card
or run applications that are installed on the storage card while the device is
connected to your PC.
Your PC will only connect to the device’s storage card. When you access your
device from the PC, you will only see the contents of the device’s storage card.
Remember to change back to ActiveSync mode when you need to synchronize
data between your device and your PC.
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Sorry to dissapoint you, but this is just the other way arround. This enables you to use your phone as a flash drive from a PC. In this thread they want to access a flash drive (USB stick/HD etc) from their phone
I used to have an application that I could turn on, and when connect to wi-fi it would act as if I had it connected via USB, eg I could access f: removable disk to put/remove files on/off my sd card without having to fumble around with plugging my usb cable in, cause only the back ports work and it's such a pain having to go in and out of my desk and such. I used to have it but cannot for the life of me remember the name.
help pls! <3
try MyPhoneExplorer, in my opinion a very useful app and its free on the market.
u also need to install the software on your pc, install from fjsoft.at/en/
faceqt said:
I used to have an application that I could turn on, and when connect to wi-fi it would act as if I had it connected via USB, eg I could access f: removable disk to put/remove files on/off my sd card without having to fumble around with plugging my usb cable in, cause only the back ports work and it's such a pain having to go in and out of my desk and such. I used to have it but cannot for the life of me remember the name.
help pls! <3
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WiFi File Explorer
h**p://dooblou.blogspot.com/p/wifi-file-explorer.html
bt how to connect phone to my laptop's wifi through this apps? i tried bt connection failed... do i hv to need different wifi on my device for it"?
m using samsung galaxy 3.. i5801..
If you are familiar with adb at all try using adbwireless from the market
Hi folks, please excuse my ignorance as I am not a regular user of my phone for anything other than calling home and asking my wife if I need to pic up anything from the store before I come home from work ect...
I have some pictures on my phone that I would like to put on my computer so I can print them out. I am using a Samsung Captivate. I am so unfamiliar with most of the terms used here I am not even sure what to look for under a search. Would someone mind helping me please? Thank you in advance and if you happen to have a problem with your air conditioner I can be of help with that in return.
Hi knownot,
you can connect your phone via USB cable to your Computer.
Fortunately, Android devices are considered (by computer) as external hard disks so you can easily browse folders and copy your pictures to your PC.
I apologise for my bad english
dublade said:
Hi knownot,
you can connect your phone via USB cable to your Computer.
Fortunately, Android devices are considered (by computer) as external hard disks so you can easily browse folders and copy your pictures to your PC.
I apologise for my bad english
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It views as an HDD? mine shows up as a camera
normally if you connect your phone to your computer there should be something in the statusbar of your phone like USB-connection. click on that and now you can choose to connect as hdd.
Once you have the phone connected as a drive, on my phone the pictures are in the dcim/camera folder. Find that and copy and paste to your computer.
Detected as camera probably fine too, it should offer an import option.
Alternatively there are apps like dropbox, that if you use them on your phone and on your computer, it will automaticly upload the pictures to your computer whenever your phone connects to your homes wifi.
Or just mail them to yourself, the access the mails from your computer.
You also might type into youtube "samsung captivate usb mount" and You will find a video tutorial.
Or you can use Samsung Kies. It's a program for Windows or Mac to sync your data.
85gallon said:
Once you have the phone connected as a drive, on my phone the pictures are in the dcim/camera folder. Find that and copy and paste to your computer.
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First, use your USB cable to plug your phone into your computer. If you're not sure what the USB cable is, it's the black cord that came with your phone. It's probably plugged into your phone charger; unplug the cord from the charger and use that to plug the phone into the computer.
Then, on your phone, open the notifications menu at the top of the screen by swiping down. Click the button that says "USB connected" (or something similar) and choose the option that says "USB storage" (or something similar). Then your computer should say "Installing driver software" and then "Your device is ready to use."
An "Autoplay" window will probably pop up. You can choose "open folder to view files." Double click on the "DCIM" folder, double click on a folder inside there (it will probably be "Camera" or something), and you should see all of your pictures.
Google can be your friend, well for atleast the first 15 mins..
Often you have to select USB storage or something like that in order to enable your phone as a hd. that will mess with your apps when it is connected because it mounts the SD card etc on your PC, so it is usually not enabled by default.
Pull down the notifications bar, click on the USB connected link, select the appropriate action.
Enjoy.
Thanks for the tips folks. I am sure with your help I will finally figure this out. I had already tried sending my self an e-mail but I never got it. Tried connecting to computer with the cord and the notifications bar will not pull down. It just shows the connection thingy on the screen but I cant do anything with the phone while it is connected. Thanks again for your help. Its very much appreciated.
if it's not too many photos I usually just email them to myself and open it up on my computer
I did a google search and found this post showing step by step what to do as I don't have a captivate and each phone can differ.
forums.att.com/t5/Samsung/Samsung-Captivate-transferring-videos-and-photos-to-PC/td-p/2683255
Dave
Sent from my LG P920 using Tapatalk
Thanks for the input. Have tried your suggestions and have come to the conclusion there is something out of whack with the phone. Going by AT&T tomorrow to see about it. Thanks again!
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an alternative method is;
be sure that your photos are stored in SD card.
remove your SD card and connect it to your laptop's SD card reader (you should have a micro SD - SD adaptor).
copy them to your laptop.
I hope it helps.
Thought I'd start a second thread since the first stupid questions thread is already forty something pages long.
USB storage -- is that just being able to access the SD card from the computer via the USB cable when the phone is booted up, being able to read off a USB flash card from the phone, or being able to access the computer from the phone via the USB cable?
I haven't heard of the third thing but I read about some tablets being able to read USB flash drives.
I read more of the original stupid questions thread and it is really good. Maybe the monitors can close this thread. Sorry.
nazcalito said:
USB storage -- is that just being able to access the SD card from the computer via the USB cable when the phone is booted up, being able to read off a USB flash card from the phone, or being able to access the computer from the phone via the USB cable?
I haven't heard of the third thing but I read about some tablets being able to read USB flash drives.
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I would say "USB storage" is accessed when the phone is connected to the computer as a "mass storage device" giving access to read or write on the sd card no matter the state of the device.
As for accessing the computer from the phone I don't think this would qualify or that there are any apps that support this type of connection via USB. I do use apps to access my computer via wifi for file transfer and mouse/keyboard control but don't sewer the point either with a USB connection. Realistically if your phone is connected to the computer you are in a close enough proximity to just use the computer unless you have a really really really long USB cord.
i wanted to know if it was possible to connect an external hard drive to an android phone with usb on the go support using a female to female usb adapter something like this > http://www.amazon.com/SANOXY-USB-Gender-Changer-Female/dp/B000BSN4UY/ref=pd_bxgy_e_img_y
connceting the phone usb cable on one end and connect the external hard drive usb cable on another???
and if not why ? and how exactly can you connect a external hard drive to an android phone?
thank you
connecting external hard drive (transcend 25M3) to android phone ( micromax a116) ( )
Good news for everyone who want use external hard drive with android phone. I connected my Micromax A116 with transcend store jet 25M3 1TB external hard drive without rooting of phone. You have to possession of OTG cable only. Transcend hard drive one benefit that its having connecting cable with two USB male point . One for specifically power supply and other for data transfer. I used my Micromax phone charger having out put - DC 5V 1A with USB connected. first I have given power supply by connecting USB end of hard drive to the Micromax phone charger then I connected data transfer USB of hard drive to OTG cable then its micro USB end to my Micromax a 116. And its successfully access all the file and folder in hard drive. Plz Keep in mind that hard drive formatted in FAT32. Your phone should be supporting USB storage devices. And biggest thing is you don't require any rooting or additional apps for connecting. I think it will be very helpful for Micromax A 116 users . I can easily play HD video from my hard drive.
otg connecting a hard drive
Dharmender Nagill said:
Good news for everyone who want use external hard drive with android phone. I connected my Micromax A116 with transcend store jet 25M3 1TB external hard drive without rooting of phone. You have to possession of OTG cable only. Transcend hard drive one benefit that its having connecting cable with two USB male point . One for specifically power supply and other for data transfer. I used my Micromax phone charger having out put - DC 5V 1A with USB connected. first I have given power supply by connecting USB end of hard drive to the Micromax phone charger then I connected data transfer USB of hard drive to OTG cable then its micro USB end to my Micromax a 116. And its successfully access all the file and folder in hard drive. Plz Keep in mind that hard drive formatted in FAT32. Your phone should be supporting USB storage devices. And biggest thing is you don't require any rooting or additional apps for connecting. I think it will be very helpful for Micromax A 116 users . I can easily play HD video from my hard drive.
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i have a noir A10 and i have connected an 80 gb hard drive via otg cable and an app installed on my phone i.e Stickmount.
So what am I doing wrong???
I have a Samsung Galaxy S4 and I wish to connect it to a USB hard drive. The one I'm using at the moment is an old 40gb drive but, if I can get bit to work, I intend to get a bigger one.
Sooo...
I've got a USB OTG lead.
I've connected the drive using a 'Y' lead to ensure that there is enough power for the hard drive.
I'm using ES3 File explorer.
I've connected USB sticks and cards also used USB hubs and Card readers with perfect results.
ES3 recognises the drive and asks for permission to access it but when I give permission it says "Sorry the operation failed". Trying again gives a different message "Failed to open the file".
I've tried reformatting the drive as NTFS, exFAT and even FAT32 but it makes no difference.
The drive works perfectly when connected to a number of other devices.
Any ideas?
Hey frndz i am also trying to connect my desire 820 dual sim with wd my element 1 tb but whenever i connet it the ext hdd, the hdd stopping and starting again and again and my mobile also shows a msg Usb storage removed , usb attached and detached again and again. Can u please help
Monu Gujjar said:
Hey frndz i am also trying to connect my desire 820 dual sim with wd my element 1 tb but whenever i connet it the ext hdd, the hdd stopping and starting again and again and my mobile also shows a msg Usb storage removed , usb attached and detached again and again. Can u please help
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U need to Format/fat32