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I've just received a new T-Mobile G1 and I am pretty desperate to update to a cupcake build. There's loads of guide here that will walk me through it no problem, but there are some things they don't explain fully (or at least, I can't find them).
Will I lose all my contacts and messages when I update? Will I lose all my T-Mobile data (like message settings, 3G settings etc.?). Will Market and everything else still work? What will stop functioning correctly when I do upgrade, specifically for T-Mobile in the UK?
Thanks a lot!
Tony
Funkstar De Luxe said:
I've just received a new T-Mobile G1 and I am pretty desperate to update to a cupcake build. There's loads of guide here that will walk me through it no problem, but there are some things they don't explain fully (or at least, I can't find them).
Will I lose all my contacts and messages when I update? Will I lose all my T-Mobile data (like message settings, 3G settings etc.?). Will Market and everything else still work? What will stop functioning correctly when I do upgrade, specifically for T-Mobile in the UK?
Thanks a lot!
Tony
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You will lose messages, you will not lose any T-Mobile data, you will not lose any contacts. I suggest you check out Haykuro's thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=498026
You will need root. And I suggest you go with haykuro's 4.5 build. I won't go in to any more detail, just do some research in haykuro's thread and others on how to get root, etc. Good luck.
Wel.. Where can i start? The cupcake your possibly reading about isnt fully working on G1 Yet..
I recomend you try one of the magic roms ported to G1, Preferbly 5.0H
Root is easy to achieve, Just read around.. Plenty ahve asked how to do this before, so please dont make new threads, Just read please
If you are referring to the ''Cupcake'' that T-Mobile is releasing this Easter then all these guys are wrong. If you do update to HTC Sapphire it will void your warranty and there's a small(Or large if you don't follow directions) that you could brick your brand new G1. The ''Cupcake'' that T-Mobile will release or at least hoping it will, will be coming in the next days. This update is 100% safe and will not do anything harmful to your g1. It wont even delete anything.
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If you are referring to the ''Cupcake'' that T-Mobile is releasing this Easter then all these guys are wrong. If you do update to HTC Sapphire it will void your warranty and there's a small(Or large if you don't follow directions) that you could brick your brand new G1. The ''Cupcake'' that T-Mobile will release or at least hoping it will, will be coming in the next days. This update is 100% safe and will not do anything harmful to your g1. It wont even delete anything.
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And as I've said in other threads re: Cupcake, I say we wait for JF to do his thing with it.
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And as I've said in other threads re: Cupcake, I say we wait for JF to do his thing with it.
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That's exactly what I'm planning to do. I was hard set against root when I first got my g1, but I have seen the light and enjoyed my rooted g1. Thank goodness for the jfupdater app
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And as I've said in other threads re: Cupcake, I say we wait for JF to do his thing with it.
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Huh? That has nothing to do with my post other. My post was answering his question about ''CupCake'' from T-Mobile and not some other Rooted Cupcake. I understand that there are other cupcakes but the best will be T-Mobile for the time being.
I think I said CupCake enough times
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Huh? That has nothing to do with my post other. My post was answering his question about ''CupCake'' from T-Mobile and not some other Rooted Cupcake.
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Actually, he asked about *a* Cupcake build - he made no mention of an official build, therefore it is reasonable to presume that he is referring to *one that is available* and not *one that isn't*.
I understand that there are other cupcakes but the best will be T-Mobile for the time being.
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Really? For the time being, there is no T-Mobile Cupcake build so how it can it be best? Granted, if and when it comes out, it may well be superior, but that is by no means certain since Haykuros builds are getting better all the time.
If the OP is waiting on an official T-Mobile Cupcake update, I suggest there is no point asking around here since if he leaves his phone with a vanilla build, he'll get the update soon enough, if and when it is released.
Regards,
Dave
Thanks guys. I'm not waiting on the t-mobile build as I have little faith in them releasing it any time soon. I'll ask my question in a different way; what's the best build to put on my UK t-mobile G1? With regards to battery life and features? Thanks
I suggest you read the threads about rooting your G1. The first thing you have to do is downgrade to RC7, and get root. Then, don't accept any OTA (from T-Mobile) upgrades if you should get a notice.
After downgrading and getting root, read up on some of the different builds. You can go to JF's RC9, which is a modded version of the official UK one with root. I would really advise you to do this first, so you will know how to flash your roms, and how to flash the radio.
It will give you a stable version which won't accept OTA updates so you don't have to worry about losing root. (Plug your phone into a power source, or at the very least, be sure your battery has a full charge while flashing, and don't ever turn your phone off while it is flashing.)
After that, read threads like the one comparing the two Magic versions. 5.xG is the google version, and 5.xH is the HTC version.
Once you have gotten root and gone to RC9, you will be able to do something called a Nandroid backup of your phone. You will then be able to try both versions of magic, and also to restore your phone to RC9 if they don't work out for you without losing anything. (Another reason to try a more official mod before trying the Magic ones).
edit: I just found this on the Magic wiki page. It looks helpful: http://code.google.com/p/sapphire-port-dream/wiki/PageName
Have fun with it!
Hi all,
I have an australian HTC Dream (G1) and I'm finding some issues that is possibly pointing me in the direction of needing to root my phone.
Eg. I'm running out of available storage space on the phone for all my apps, and I'm finding most paid applications I want don't seem to be available to me in the australian android market.
Can someone answer these questions for me regarding rooting my phone?
1. If I use Market Enabler (which I assume I need), will I be accessing the australian android market, or the USA version?
2. Will the interface look and feel different to the stock one?
3. Currently i'm running cupcake 1.5. If my carrier releases future updates over the air, will I be able to just install it ota and have it revert to an unrooted phone?
4. Do I need to do anything specific if rooting my phone in Australia?
I guess what i'm concerned about is if any really cool enhancements happen to future versions eg. I hear 2.x will have massive improvements to the market, will I be able to take advantage of it with my rooted phone, or will I always be stuck with hacked roms?.
I've got lots more questions, but will start with these. I'm just very nervous about doing this. Any australians that have done it, can you give me some tips?
Thanks
Geoff
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9W7Kfucgeck
I've hard reset it like advised and haven't installed any 3rd party apps.
After I wait a few hours, the phone will start to respond, but will be significantly sluggish.
I believe I should have posted this in the general section (Not sure, I'm fairly new to these forums)
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9W7Kfucgeck
I've hard reset it like advised and haven't installed any 3rd party apps.
After I wait a few hours, the phone will start to respond, but will be significantly sluggish.
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I think it's time you bring it to your local Verizon store and show them. Tell them "Look, I turn on the phone, and I can't use it!" I'm guessing they're smart enough to realize you need a replacement because that's not normal. I'm sure they'll give you another replacement.
If they don't, flash a ROM and see if it works. If everything works with the custom ROM, then it was obviously a Verizon stock ROM flaw (which I doubt since this doesn't seem common).
Yea, I had to pay for my first replacement ($50)
I hear the official 6.5 is out, where can I find that?
Also, I don't know the first thing about flashing phones with custom ROMs
AB_ said:
Yea, I had to pay for my first replacement ($50)
I hear the official 6.5 is out, where can I find that?
Also, I don't know the first thing about flashing phones with custom ROMs
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Pshh.. they gave you a faulty one now, so you shouldn't have to pay for the next replacement!
Officially, WM6.5 for the TP2 is for the Unlocked GSM European TP2. It's only for GSM networks, though (you have CDMA, so you can't flash that!).
Custom ROM flashing: I learned from a pictorial. Just follow everything! Always flash a CDMA Rhodium/TP2 ROM (you can find those at PPCGeeks) to your Verizon/Sprint/Telus TP2.
Most ROMs are not going to be suited for your phone (keyboard), so some fixes are found here.
Some of the famous CDMA ROMs are MightROMs and EnergyROMs. Find one that suits you!
*CDMA = Sprint/Verizon/Telus
GSM = Unlocked/Tilt2/T-Mobile* ROMs are made specifically for one network, and a particular device. So, never flash a GSM ROM onto a CDMA phone, and never flash a TP1 ROM to a TP2.
Good luck!
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Officially, WM6.5 for the TP2 is for the Unlocked GSM European TP2. It's only for GSM networks, though (you have CDMA, so you can't flash that!).
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Actually, the US Cellular TP2 also comes with 6.5. If you don't have a US Cellular phone though, you still can't flash it and will need a custom rom.
Wow, you guys are extremely helpful over here.
So I should flash it, or ask for a new one?
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Actually, the US Cellular TP2 also comes with 6.5. If you don't have a US Cellular phone though, you still can't flash it and will need a custom rom.
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I heard about that. However, like you said, it wouldn't be great with a Verizon phone since I doubt there's an official ROM floating around (there would be a ROM dump on PPCGeeks) but why would anyone want a stock ROM to replace a stock ROM?!
AB_ said:
Wow, you guys are extremely helpful over here.
So I should flash it, or ask for a new one?
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Ask for a new one first because we don't know if the issue you have is due to faulty hardware or software. If it's hardware, a new ROM can't do anything. If it was software or firmware(ROM), then a new ROM should be able to fix it.
If you ever need to return the phone and it has a custom ROM, you will have to re-flash the stock ROM found at thewingster. You will then have to follow the steps to return stockSPL (very bottom of the post). If you don't do these return-to-stock steps, Verizon wouldn't accept it!
Got my new one in the maill today, for free.
Thanks guys.
now.. should I flash? I want 6.5 badddd
AB_ said:
Got my new one in the maill today, for free.
Thanks guys.
now.. should I flash? I want 6.5 badddd
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I'm guessing wait 'til the weekend arrives. Use the phone hardcore! If anything goes wrong with it for the next few days, at least you can return it again.
If you're truly desperate, I guess you could flash!
lol there's hardcore ways to use our phone? I thought it was bad-ass all around.
Is there an ETA of when Verizon's TP2 6.5 is suppose to arrive? I thought it was December/January :\
It's out... check out the thread over at PPC Geeks.
Got it. Thanks
It has been found. Now the fun can begin.
A big thanks to this guy.
h--p://myjanky.com/beagleboard/?p=100&cpage=1
happy newb
I just got one of these phone....tell me that I'll be able to get rid of the ATT bullcrap!
Hi guys, is there someone that can help me with the root access of my backflip?
I'm from Italy and I'm pretty sure that It's not a good Idea to use the AT&T USA files
What's the correct sources file to use? EMARA? or LATAM?
h--ps//opensource.motorola.com/sf/go/projects.backflip/frs
Thank you and regards
katun79 said:
Hi guys, is there someone that can help me with the root access of my backflip?
I'm from Italy and I'm pretty sure that It's not a good Idea to use the AT&T USA files
What's the correct sources file to use? EMARA? or LATAM?
h--ps//opensource.motorola.com/sf/go/projects.backflip/frs
Thank you and regards
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you need to head over to modmymoto.com The emara is the one you need i think. the latam is for latin america afaik. the RAMDLD exploit may be present in your italian build. if this is the case Shrilax_CZ can make you a testflash of your fw.
Just a quick thought on this link that keeps popping up everywhere... After reading through most (if not all) of what was posted at the janky site, I'm figuring that what Infrared was able to do was ONLY because he appears to have the certs for signing packages and whatnot for Android development because of his job. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong, but what he's been able to accomplish, the average joe wouldn't be able to, right?
Trying to clear up my confusion on this matter. The rest of us are S-O-L at the moment, unless of course we were able to sign our packages, etc.
Let the schooling begin...
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Just a quick thought on this link that keeps popping up everywhere... After reading through most (if not all) of what was posted at the janky site, I'm figuring that what Infrared was able to do was ONLY because he appears to have the certs for signing packages and whatnot for Android development because of his job. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong, but what he's been able to accomplish, the average joe wouldn't be able to, right?
Trying to clear up my confusion on this matter. The rest of us are S-O-L at the moment, unless of course we were able to sign our packages, etc.
Let the schooling begin...
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Exactly. He claims to have the keys everyone else needs. With out the production keys the source is worthless for our phones atm
moosefist said:
you need to head over to modmymoto.com The emara is the one you need i think. the latam is for latin america afaik. the RAMDLD exploit may be present in your italian build. if this is the case Shrilax_CZ can make you a testflash of your fw.
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Thanks, I'll try asap!
turbotommy said:
I just got one of these phone....tell me that I'll be able to get rid of the ATT bullcrap!
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I just want to install 2.1 when & how I want to not when Motorola finally decides to release the update. I would also like to be able to install a vanilla Android 2.1 without Motosuck. Or even (gasp!) An Android with Sense.
So I'm a bit confused.
Is this just stripping the ATT files, giving root access? Or is this a complete AOSP ROM?
I'm trying to root my friends' backflip (US ATT) and I don't think he cares about 2.1... I mean 1.6 would be fine. Just looking for an AOSP like ROM.
So has this phone been rooted. I'm gonna either get a backflip or a dell aero when it's released.
jznomoney said:
So has this phone been rooted. I'm gonna either get a backflip or a dell aero when it's released.
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Not really. The post even gives some instructions on how to do it, but it can only be done with Motorola internal tools, which are not publicly available, or leaked yet.
If someone leaked the tools we might be able to root, but even if it happened, they would probably have to be leaked over again for any newer os builds to be rooted (like when 2.1 arrives in Q3).
Basically Motorola has locked this phone down in a way no other android device is, and there just aren't enough of them out there for people to spend a lot of time hacking on them.
I'm in a position it would be expensive for me to leave AT&T, but the only decent android device that will run 3G at this point is the Nexus One. I find it hard to cough up $529 for a phone that has issues with the touchscreen and hardware buttons, but I might do it anyway.
Hey guys, I'm pretty new to android (was a WM man then went to iPhone OS developing) but ATT just sent me this backflip and while yes it is a little limited I was wondering exactly what advantages to root there are? I've figured out how to side load my own homebrew apps and whatnot but what else could root allow us to do on the phone?
I'm assuming it would allow different cooks? and of course remove that ATT bull**** on the device. I kind of like blur, I definitely wouldn't be sad if it was gone but it isn't super terrible either.
just curious really
V DidDy 210 said:
Hey guys, I'm pretty new to android (was a WM man then went to iPhone OS developing) but ATT just sent me this backflip and while yes it is a little limited I was wondering exactly what advantages to root there are? I've figured out how to side load my own homebrew apps and whatnot but what else could root allow us to do on the phone?
I'm assuming it would allow different cooks? and of course remove that ATT bull**** on the device. I kind of like blur, I definitely wouldn't be sad if it was gone but it isn't super terrible either.
just curious really
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Could you elaborate on the "side loading" process?
Idk if this help AT ALL but let me know!
I got into Safe Mode and I'm using Astro file manager and I got into /etc/security folder which has attcacerts file, cacerts file, manfacerts file and otacerts file. I had seen that we were waiting for the certificate files or something and had stumbled upon these. I looked in the attcacerts one and there was alot of coding with root in them and stuff so I don't know if this can be used or not. Let me know. Thanks.
So I recently purchased an HTC Sensation online from Welectronics. So after getting the phone and trying to set it up, I noticed that it does not come with US English or even UK English in the Locale, it comes with English from Asian countries such as Vietnam, Malaysia etc.
I can live with it, as long as it's still English, but I would prefer to use US English or even Canadian English if possible. Is there any market apps I can use to get other locales installed onto my phone?
Furthermore, because I am in Canada and am using Wind Mobile, the notification bar does not display my "Wind Home", it only displays the operator network code. Again, any way I can change that?
Despite all this, I do hope HTC releases the S-Off ASAP so I can flash other roms onto it! Cheers
Bump. Same here, purchased from expansys.
Try this app:
https://market.android.com/details?id=jp.co.c_lis.ccl.morelocale&feature=search_result
haven't tried it on the Sensation, but it worked on my Desire HD.
Yup, tried that app and it's alright, at least I have standard English language now
hey mixmaven, did you purchase from expansys-usa. i haven't gotten it yet but want to know because i ordered one from them and they told me it was a US version with no bloatware, so i assume it would have US english on it.
hey chris, yes to expansys usa - and the more I used the phone the more I found that everything appeared to be correct, it just didn't have the English US option when I booted which was annoying. Selecting another english language triggers a few strange input screens. I see no major bloatware, looks like a clean version of sense. Has sound hound and a few other common apps.
chrisg1548 said:
hey mixmaven, did you purchase from expansys-usa. i haven't gotten it yet but want to know because i ordered one from them and they told me it was a US version with no bloatware, so i assume it would have US english on it.
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mixmaven did you try the app that kuba1410 say to use and did it work. also how are you liking the phone. thanks for the reply.
not yet, I wanted to pull down a sense 3.0 rom and pull out the en us file. Haven't had time. I wonder if the dictonary contains more words if you are using the correct language.
Differentiation, assuming it work perfectly on your sensation did it change everything to US english without problems?
Anyone willing to provide a system dump off a US edition phone with no bloatware?
Locale2 did not fix the keyboard settings screen (Thai Keyboard is shown) and Vietnameses IME. However the keyboards are in english and work correctly so far.
Not sure where the files are saved in a US rom. I was hoping I could push them to the rom and then run setup again. S=On is killing me.
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Differentiation, assuming it work perfectly on your sensation did it change everything to US english without problems?
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chrisg1548 said:
Differentiation, assuming it work perfectly on your sensation did it change everything to US english without problems?
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I just chose Canadian English, so far it seems to be alright, haven't really had too much problems.
Is there anything you would specifically want me to look at?
Differentiation just want to know that when i get mine that i can set things to US english using the app and work fine. is there any areas that are not working like google maps, weather..etc. thanks for the info.
thanks mixmaven for trying the app. Differentiation said he used canadian engliah and seems to work with little problem. dont know if you seen his post. you may want to try it and see what happens.
There is a thread in the development forum for the sensation that includes links to the official RUU roms for various regions of the world. I'm wondering if you would be able to flash one of these official roms to your phones. I think you should be able to flash a rom for an unbranded phone since I'm assuming your phones are unbranded. You might want to try it.
I don't have Canadian English only Singapore, Vietnam, Malaysia, and Philippines.
Time to look at the other ROM's
-jm
Paten said:
There is a thread in the development forum for the sensation that includes links to the official RUU roms for various regions of the world. I'm wondering if you would be able to flash one of these official roms to your phones. I think you should be able to flash a rom for an unbranded phone since I'm assuming your phones are unbranded. You might want to try it.
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Yes my phone is unbranded.
As soon as S-Off becomes official, I think I will flash a North American rom onto my phone.
Differentiation said:
Yes my phone is unbranded.
As soon as S-Off becomes official, I think I will flash a North American rom onto my phone.
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I don't know if the radios are compatible. North American Sensations are the T-mobile branded one, with 1700,2100,1900MHz 3G bands, and the one that went thru the FCC with 850/1900MHz bands for an unknown carrier. As far as the Vodafone/unbranded European/Asian phones, their 3G frequencies are listed as 900/AWS/2100MHz. I would make sure it won't brick your phone before trying to flash a "North American" rom onto your Sensation.
In the mean time, you might try one of the unbranded European roms and chose UK English.
Oh you are right! I have the 3G version, not the 4G.
I tried 3 different HTC Roms, all 3 ended with the 131 error of invalid ID.