Questions re: rooting aussie HTC Dream - General Questions and Answers

Hi all,
I have an australian HTC Dream (G1) and I'm finding some issues that is possibly pointing me in the direction of needing to root my phone.
Eg. I'm running out of available storage space on the phone for all my apps, and I'm finding most paid applications I want don't seem to be available to me in the australian android market.
Can someone answer these questions for me regarding rooting my phone?
1. If I use Market Enabler (which I assume I need), will I be accessing the australian android market, or the USA version?
2. Will the interface look and feel different to the stock one?
3. Currently i'm running cupcake 1.5. If my carrier releases future updates over the air, will I be able to just install it ota and have it revert to an unrooted phone?
4. Do I need to do anything specific if rooting my phone in Australia?
I guess what i'm concerned about is if any really cool enhancements happen to future versions eg. I hear 2.x will have massive improvements to the market, will I be able to take advantage of it with my rooted phone, or will I always be stuck with hacked roms?.
I've got lots more questions, but will start with these. I'm just very nervous about doing this. Any australians that have done it, can you give me some tips?
Thanks
Geoff

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Backflip Root Info

It has been found. Now the fun can begin.
A big thanks to this guy.
h--p://myjanky.com/beagleboard/?p=100&cpage=1
happy newb
I just got one of these phone....tell me that I'll be able to get rid of the ATT bullcrap!
Hi guys, is there someone that can help me with the root access of my backflip?
I'm from Italy and I'm pretty sure that It's not a good Idea to use the AT&T USA files
What's the correct sources file to use? EMARA? or LATAM?
h--ps//opensource.motorola.com/sf/go/projects.backflip/frs
Thank you and regards
katun79 said:
Hi guys, is there someone that can help me with the root access of my backflip?
I'm from Italy and I'm pretty sure that It's not a good Idea to use the AT&T USA files
What's the correct sources file to use? EMARA? or LATAM?
h--ps//opensource.motorola.com/sf/go/projects.backflip/frs
Thank you and regards
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you need to head over to modmymoto.com The emara is the one you need i think. the latam is for latin america afaik. the RAMDLD exploit may be present in your italian build. if this is the case Shrilax_CZ can make you a testflash of your fw.
Just a quick thought on this link that keeps popping up everywhere... After reading through most (if not all) of what was posted at the janky site, I'm figuring that what Infrared was able to do was ONLY because he appears to have the certs for signing packages and whatnot for Android development because of his job. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong, but what he's been able to accomplish, the average joe wouldn't be able to, right?
Trying to clear up my confusion on this matter. The rest of us are S-O-L at the moment, unless of course we were able to sign our packages, etc.
Let the schooling begin...
Dbagjones said:
Just a quick thought on this link that keeps popping up everywhere... After reading through most (if not all) of what was posted at the janky site, I'm figuring that what Infrared was able to do was ONLY because he appears to have the certs for signing packages and whatnot for Android development because of his job. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong, but what he's been able to accomplish, the average joe wouldn't be able to, right?
Trying to clear up my confusion on this matter. The rest of us are S-O-L at the moment, unless of course we were able to sign our packages, etc.
Let the schooling begin...
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Exactly. He claims to have the keys everyone else needs. With out the production keys the source is worthless for our phones atm
moosefist said:
you need to head over to modmymoto.com The emara is the one you need i think. the latam is for latin america afaik. the RAMDLD exploit may be present in your italian build. if this is the case Shrilax_CZ can make you a testflash of your fw.
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Thanks, I'll try asap!
turbotommy said:
I just got one of these phone....tell me that I'll be able to get rid of the ATT bullcrap!
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I just want to install 2.1 when & how I want to not when Motorola finally decides to release the update. I would also like to be able to install a vanilla Android 2.1 without Motosuck. Or even (gasp!) An Android with Sense.
So I'm a bit confused.
Is this just stripping the ATT files, giving root access? Or is this a complete AOSP ROM?
I'm trying to root my friends' backflip (US ATT) and I don't think he cares about 2.1... I mean 1.6 would be fine. Just looking for an AOSP like ROM.
So has this phone been rooted. I'm gonna either get a backflip or a dell aero when it's released.
jznomoney said:
So has this phone been rooted. I'm gonna either get a backflip or a dell aero when it's released.
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Not really. The post even gives some instructions on how to do it, but it can only be done with Motorola internal tools, which are not publicly available, or leaked yet.
If someone leaked the tools we might be able to root, but even if it happened, they would probably have to be leaked over again for any newer os builds to be rooted (like when 2.1 arrives in Q3).
Basically Motorola has locked this phone down in a way no other android device is, and there just aren't enough of them out there for people to spend a lot of time hacking on them.
I'm in a position it would be expensive for me to leave AT&T, but the only decent android device that will run 3G at this point is the Nexus One. I find it hard to cough up $529 for a phone that has issues with the touchscreen and hardware buttons, but I might do it anyway.
Hey guys, I'm pretty new to android (was a WM man then went to iPhone OS developing) but ATT just sent me this backflip and while yes it is a little limited I was wondering exactly what advantages to root there are? I've figured out how to side load my own homebrew apps and whatnot but what else could root allow us to do on the phone?
I'm assuming it would allow different cooks? and of course remove that ATT bull**** on the device. I kind of like blur, I definitely wouldn't be sad if it was gone but it isn't super terrible either.
just curious really
V DidDy 210 said:
Hey guys, I'm pretty new to android (was a WM man then went to iPhone OS developing) but ATT just sent me this backflip and while yes it is a little limited I was wondering exactly what advantages to root there are? I've figured out how to side load my own homebrew apps and whatnot but what else could root allow us to do on the phone?
I'm assuming it would allow different cooks? and of course remove that ATT bull**** on the device. I kind of like blur, I definitely wouldn't be sad if it was gone but it isn't super terrible either.
just curious really
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Could you elaborate on the "side loading" process?
Idk if this help AT ALL but let me know!
I got into Safe Mode and I'm using Astro file manager and I got into /etc/security folder which has attcacerts file, cacerts file, manfacerts file and otacerts file. I had seen that we were waiting for the certificate files or something and had stumbled upon these. I looked in the attcacerts one and there was alot of coding with root in them and stuff so I don't know if this can be used or not. Let me know. Thanks.

Should I, shouldn't I

Hi folks,
I'm thinking of picking up the galaxy s, the samsung vibrant from t-mobile to use on my carrier.
i had a few questions and hope you fellas can help me out.
1st, what would be involved in unlocking it? Would I have any problems getting it unlocked?
Also i'm a total noob to android but i've been reading up. What exactly is "rooting"? will rooting allow me to put a stock 2.2 on it? is that even possible and is it recomended on this phone?
and lastly from people who have been using this phone, do you recommend getting it?
thanks
oh snap! i posted this in the wrong board. it should have been in the "Galaxy S I9000 General"
sorry mods.
Rooting allows you to get access to parts of the phone you otherwise wouldn't have access to. Compare it to having administrator rights on windows, you can access more files, do more stuff. Programs can perform more actions when your phone is rooted.
Putting 2.2 on it is completely seperate from that and at this moment is not possible. However, Samsung already stated that the first 2.2 update will be somewhere in august (not for euro/usa regions though) so perhaps withing the month after that it will also be available for other regions. Samsung has officially announced that it WILL be updated though, so no need to worry about that.
Without the 2.2 update it's already pretty damn fast though (with some tweaks its faster then the Nexus one WITH 2.2) so I would certainly already recommend it.
This is my first android phone (after symbian, windows mobile and more) and it's really easy to get used to and works just great. The screen is beautiful (good colors, vibrant although reading text on it is a less great experience) and it's very fast. Also feels light, in a good way, great screen, etc. I can totally recommend it.
ps. No idea what the status on unlocking is, mine was unlocked already so never looked into it.
you might want to make sure the frequency bands of the one you acquire will work on the carrier you want to use it on
if not, it may not work at all, or may not give you 3G data svc
personally i didnt think any phones are locked down anymore, at least not in the UK?
you should buy the phone, its the best ive owned, not saying its the best on the market but id like to hear of an arguement for why it isnt.
rooting was done on this device even before release, and with already 300k sales in south korea alone it looks like its going to have some great support and updates in the future

[Q] MK16i Xperia Pro

Yes, there is one post that follows the process that I used for my SK17i Mini Pro a couple months ago.
I'm new to Android. Yup a Noob. I don't mind saying as we all have to start to learn somewhere and somehow.
Long story short. I've damaged my Very well liked SK17i. Physical is what I mean here.
I rooted it according to some instructions along the lines of:
1. upgrade to firmware xxx.
2. grab image xxx. etc.
3. use the tool to root it.
I diverged... I just installed Doomloards Custom Kernel after step 2 or so and installed it as it was already rooted! It has overclocking though I didn't use it and of course it had Boot recovery. Plenty of other useful tools aready in the .img.
I basically want the same thing for my Pro.
My whole purpose of rooting is for the rights root grants, and to use aps2sd. Sufficient for my functions. (CM mod etc, will have to be a lot more stable for me to consider them which is going to be some time down the road for this device.)
I kept everything else stock. I don't do custom roms etc. This is a daily phone and I need it to function and work for communication.
bboof posted something like what I'd prefer to do. I'm waiting for a reply as to whether his kernel will support aps2sd. (I do mean the XDAversion not anything from Android apps store unless there has been something wonderfully new there in the last 2 months since I bought my Mini Pro.)
I was fighting the Internet here and a machine with HDD problems making for a serious dog dog slow experience here. I'm in CHINA. Censorship and random sites blocked for the fun of it.
I have searched and searched. I have broken out my little 10in Computer here cause it's at least not so mind numbingly painfully slow. (haha Now just fighting the internet. At the moment XDA is not blocked! Started out that way earlier? Had to use a proxy.)
I have been at this for several hours. About 7 so far.
I have FOUND no info on a Custom Kernel for the Xperia Pro MK16i? SO other than bboofs, is there none? Yet I've found comments in others that there are? Even that doomlord has made one. I can find no link? I found such a comment in his one step guide and someone said, why? We already have kernels with root available to be flashed to the device? (Please I want this kernel? how to find it?)
I've googled any number of search parameters i could think of. I can't find.
If there's a Doomlord kernel, just like with my SK17i, I would guess specific firmware is needed? Please tell me which and where to get it... Thank you to any and all who can shed some light here. I live in a different time zone and if I can get an answer that enables me to do what I want... I might be able to order this MK16i tomorrow.It seems a great piece of kit with some nice 'upgrades' compared to my SK17i. (It was not available in Oct.)
What I have found so far. CM7 or was it 9? There's a custom kernel that seems to be required to be installed before trying the CM7 ROM.
So anyone with more experience in Android. Can I use that CM7 Kernel for MK16i? What does it support? (I read back with my SK17i some problems with CM and aps2sd. Something about scripts clashing and all that.) I will not install CM Rom. I will keep stock ROM and I am guessing there may be some conflicts? Yes, no? Maybe?
As I'm asking about using custom kernels... WE all know that the Neo and Pro are the same unit. Just like the Mini and Mini pro were. With the physical difference of a keyboard.
Anyone have a clue or has anyone even TRIED! (Someone adventurous perhaps?) the Kernels for the Xperia Neo on the Xperia Pro? I am a noob, and I do use linux 98% of the time. I don't really work in Windows anymore. However, I'm not a coder or script writer. Also Android for lack of a better term has a few mods.
More or less, in Android, from my simple understanding and yes, correct me if I'm totally wrong or even partially, so I can gain understanding, the ROM is basically where all your program functions and such are. SO when we're talking about the keyboard for example. Parameters and such I would guess are in the ROM?
If all else being equal, I should be able to use a Neo Custom Kernel on my SK16i to achieve my simple result? Or do I have it confused?
What I understand is at least with aps2sd, a ramdisk mod is needed? Does the bboof kernel not only offer root but the modded ramdisk to support other features with everything else being stock? (Actually I'm guessing it should because of mods that should still have been made to allow for the recovery. Though everything else is 'stock'. Of course totally not sure or I wouldn't be here asking.)
Anyone know? I'm more or less sitting here spinning my wheels. I want to order the replacement and at the price difference, it seems silly not to buy the MK16i. (However basically want to be 100% certain I can manage my same little basic setup.)
Also, if anyone with more experience has some idea, I'll be happy to use another tool to gain the ability to put aps on my SD card and not take up the limited space on the device. So please recommend a tool that isn't too complicated.
How about link2sd? Does it also require a modded ramdisk space?
I just want to keep it simple. I don't often need so far, any great mods on my devices. Just root so being in CHINA I can actually use the appstore.
My SK17i does work despite the damage. SO I have ROMmanager the back up program. I haven't really used it yet. (Unable to pay for paid version again other limitations of CHINA. Including an inability to pay for VPN at the moment to stop fighting with the internet. Last time to work with my SK17i took me about 5 days! Coz every link to download the files was blocked!! It only took me about 3min following the instructions to actually update firmware. unlock bootloader, add Doomlords custom kernel. ) Hoping I can use Rom Manager to back up just my programs and shift them right over to the MK16i. Can I do that? Anyone with a bit more experience using the program and does this work with the unpaid version?
Hoping to do the same here... if there's no custom kernels or such available. Please tell me. If there are, links where to download etc.
All those who use various ways to put aps on your SDcard please let me know what works well and stable. Also the real way, not like some of the app store aps. I'll make a ext partition, that kind of approach, on my SD card.
THis is likely by far an advance question... what about running debian or some linux image in chroot on Android and obviously an Xperia. In particular the pro but has anyone tried with anything else? I saw a few links about it a few months ago and even someone has an app in appstore supposed to automate it. (Uh not so important as the primary. Getting root in a kernel and aps2sd support.)
Sorry if this post is long. I'm trying to save you guys wondering what I want, and having to ask me more questions.
In case it's important. I am buying a sim unlocked non carrier specific unit. I buy from Expansys. I live in China so buy from HK. Their products are good and stuff not made for CHINA! Which is the absolute must to avoid. Unless you like fiddling and trying to bypass the limitations they put on their products. Android units sold in CHINA of course are locked by carrier. of course remove Android app store!
Not even going into the necessity to have root so I can 'pretend' I'm in some other country to reach apps that google censors from China anyway.
I hope I've been detailed enough and someone can point me in the right direction.
I've got flashtool and other tools from when I did my SK17i back in October. (Fortunately. I dread to think of the internet fight if I had to try to get them all over again. I'll only need the files specific to MK16i and links to them.)
Please use the Q&A Forum for questions Thanks
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[Q] Newb questions about Cincinnati Bell HTC One S

I have a Cincinnati Bell HTC One S that I've had for about 18 months. I play games and use apps, very rarely use it for pictures(10 max before I move them to my desktop), and never for music. I started having issues with games, and the game help desk said I needed to install the new andriod update. The phone says it is version 4.1.1, 3.14.422.11 710RD, and when I try to do a manual update, it says there is no update available. I started looking online, rather than through Cincinnati Bell, and I see that a version 4.1.2 version came out for my phone last summer, and many people are even running versions up to 4.4? I also noticed that my phone is set with 6.07GB for Internal Storage, and 9.93GB of Phone Storage.
Would my phone be performing better with an updated version?
Since I don't really use any storage for movies, music, or pictures, is there a way to re-allocate the storage so I have more room for apps?
Since I don't really use any storage for movies, music, or pictures, is there a way to get rid of the apps related to them? (Google Play Books, Music, Newsstand, Google Text-to-Speech Engine, SoundHound)
I am obviously a complete newb, but I follow directions well. Can someone please help me out or direct me to what I'm supposed to read?
I'm really not trying to waste anyone's time or effort, but maybe I didn't give enough information, asked the right questions, or maybe I'm too much a beginner for this site. I'll try to add to what I previously posted.
I searched the web articles about my phone, my carrier, my version, and HTC updates in general. The general conclusion is that, even though there have been updates released by HTC for the One S, my carrier has not tested and/or made the updates available, and, upon further reading, there are many updates available beyond the official updates that people are using successfully and stably. Therefore, I decided it looks like it's up to me to keep my phone functioning for my specific purposes, so I needed to figure out what was the most successfully and stably used upgrade to my phone/carrier's system, and how to go about applying it.
I searched the web for forums about my phone, and the 3 most popular results are xda-developers.com, androidcentral.com(which seems to focus on non-US, and doesn't have a very active community, regardless of expertise), and cyanogenmod.com(which didn't have any referrences to my carrier). I came here because it has the most active community with members who have direct experience with my phone and my carrier, specifically.
I read all the posts here that had 'Cincinnati Bell HTC One S' in the titles or bodies, but they seemed much farther down the decision tree and involved many terms/processes/programs that I am not familiar with.
Am I at the wrong site?
Am I in the wrong forum?
Am I asking the wrong questions?
Kamchak said:
I'm really not trying to waste anyone's time or effort, but maybe I didn't give enough information, asked the right questions, or maybe I'm too much a beginner for this site. I'll try to add to what I previously posted.
I searched the web articles about my phone, my carrier, my version, and HTC updates in general. The general conclusion is that, even though there have been updates released by HTC for the One S, my carrier has not tested and/or made the updates available, and, upon further reading, there are many updates available beyond the official updates that people are using successfully and stably. Therefore, I decided it looks like it's up to me to keep my phone functioning for my specific purposes, so I needed to figure out what was the most successfully and stably used upgrade to my phone/carrier's system, and how to go about applying it.
I searched the web for forums about my phone, and the 3 most popular results are xda-developers.com, androidcentral.com(which seems to focus on non-US, and doesn't have a very active community, regardless of expertise), and cyanogenmod.com(which didn't have any referrences to my carrier). I came here because it has the most active community with members who have direct experience with my phone and my carrier, specifically.
I read all the posts here that had 'Cincinnati Bell HTC One S' in the titles or bodies, but they seemed much farther down the decision tree and involved many terms/processes/programs that I am not familiar with.
Am I at the wrong site?
Am I in the wrong forum?
Am I asking the wrong questions?
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There is no official update for your Cincinnati Bell HTC One S. Only way to update is getting S-OFF and/or change the CID.
Sold!
Ok, what is S-OFF and CID? Should I do them both, or in a certain order?
I will follow whatever instructions and/or read/research whatever you want.
Kamchak said:
Sold!
Ok, what is S-OFF and CID? Should I do them both, or in a certain order?
I will follow whatever instructions and/or read/research whatever you want.
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I just minded you're already running Jellybean, so please check your HBoot version as followed:
Power off the phone --> Press "Vol down + Power" at the same time and your phone will boot into bootloader. You can read different values. If your "HBOOT" is at least 2.15 you can manually install any newer Android versions e.g. 4.4.2
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I just minded you're already running Jellybean, so please check your HBoot version as followed:
Power off the phone --> Press "Vol down + Power" at the same time and your phone will boot into bootloader. You can read different values. If your "HBOOT" is at least 2.15 you can manually install any newer Android versions e.g. 4.4.2
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Sorry it took so long -I just found out the hard way that I have to turn off Fastboot to get to bootloader.
So, my HBOOT is 2.15.0000!
Kamchak said:
Sorry it took so long -I just found out the hard way that I have to turn off Fastboot to get to bootloader.
So, my HBOOT is 2.15.0000!
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Pretty good You will need to unlock the bootloader first! Go HERE ad follow the guided steps. Once unlocked you can go on

Help Rooting S8 for Stock Android

Hi all,
I have tried searching, but am a bit overwhelmed since I am new to this world. All I really want to do is take my new Sprint Galaxy S8 (bought from someone off craigslist, confirmed it is ready to be activated all clean etc.) and get plain vanilla android on it as if it were a Pixel/Nexus. It does not have to be an Oreo pre-release or anything, just whatever the most current stable build is for, ideally with OTA updates if possible?
So I need basic instructions for rooting it, along with access to whatever the best/simplest ROM is that fits my above description, and how to load that up safely with minimal maintenance (I am not sure if it updates regularly like stock does). Apologies if this is super basic and asked all the time...
I was planning to activate it with sprint after I get it all set up with the root, rom, and my own data... Would this be a problem? Sprint store rep said it should be fine though they are not technically supposed to say that of course, but is it better to activate it first then root/rom it? I'd prefer not to activate it until it is all set up with everything for me if I can
Thank you for any help!!!

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