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I can't find anything that does this on the software that's included with Mio.
Can anyone help me on this one?
ROM R55
The 'Pictures' app included with Windows Mobile PDA/phones should be able to rotate and save pictures - look closely at the buttons on the bottom row when a picture is open.
As for videos, I'm a bit confused! Do you mean you want to temporarily rotate your videos so that you can view them on landscape on your PDA? Then use TCPMP (Google it), a great freeware media player that plays Divx/XviD, WMV, etc etc...
If you mean actually changing say, a 320x240 video to a 240x320 one (permanent rotation), then I dunno!
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The 'Pictures' app included with Windows Mobile PDA/phones should be able to rotate and save pictures - look closely at the buttons on the bottom row when a picture is open.
As for videos, I'm a bit confused! Do you mean you want to temporarily rotate your videos so that you can view them on landscape on your PDA? Then use TCPMP (Google it), a great freeware media player that plays Divx/XviD, WMV, etc etc...
If you mean actually changing say, a 320x240 video to a 240x320 one (permanent rotation), then I dunno!
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Ah, thank you!
Now I saw it. You will have to View the picture, and then press EDIT. I don't know why this is not available on the thumbnail mode...
Thanks!
About the movie, I've heard about tcpmp, but what I want is to change from 320x240 to 240x320.
Thanks for the info!
Anyone else knows how to accomplish this?
That would take actually re-encoding (I think) which even for a 100MB movie would be a bit too much work for a PPC device.
Such app might exist any way but I don't know any.
Try a desktop app called Virtual Dub. It's free and lets you manipulate just about any format in any way (size, orientation, encoding etc.).
TCPMP can of course rotate to landscape easily.
If you want to reformat the source video itself, as Levenum says, use Virtual Dub and apply a filter to rotate. It doesn't take too long, but is a lossy process because you have to re-encode.
This is definitely not something for the PDA, PC only.
If you're recompressing or reformatting for PDAs, I highly recommend SmartMovie, http://www.lonelycatgames.com/index.php?note=smartmovie&chapter=smartmovie
or Lathe/PocketDivXEncoder
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Humm..
The thing is I can't play 3gp taken by MIO on Nokia phones. I assume that it can be due to "size", but I don't know.
Thanks for all the input!
Well I don't have a clue how MIO's camera apps work, as I only have a HTC Magician, but try and check that your camera is indeed recording apps to standard 3gp - meaning it uses the H.263/H.264 (i forgot which) or MPEG-4 codec.
Also, as far as I know, only the most recent 'N' series of Nokias and some other high-end Nokias use 320x240 resolution screens. For Series40 Nokias (eg. 6230), the screen resolution usually sits at 128x128, with optimal support for 128x96 videos. Series60 (eg. 6600) usually have 176x200 screens, meaning that 176x144 is best for them. If your MIO has any resemblance to my Magician, its camera app should have options for you to take video at these lower resolutions.
As for resizing existing video, yes VirtualDub is the best, but it won't support 3GP (from my experience the MOD version will only do AVIs and MPEG-1 and MPEG-2 reliably). You could try ImTOO MPEG Converter (Google it), which while of dubious coding quality will convert many files to many other files. A free and perhaps better option is SUPER, though be wary as it will spit out some out of sync files on some formats (but theres so bloody many formats supported that it's hard to list them)!
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Well I don't have a clue how MIO's camera apps work, as I only have a HTC Magician, but try and check that your camera is indeed recording apps to standard 3gp - meaning it uses the H.263/H.264 (i forgot which) or MPEG-4 codec.
Also, as far as I know, only the most recent 'N' series of Nokias and some other high-end Nokias use 320x240 resolution screens. For Series40 Nokias (eg. 6230), the screen resolution usually sits at 128x128, with optimal support for 128x96 videos. Series60 (eg. 6600) usually have 176x200 screens, meaning that 176x144 is best for them. If your MIO has any resemblance to my Magician, its camera app should have options for you to take video at these lower resolutions.
As for resizing existing video, yes VirtualDub is the best, but it won't support 3GP (from my experience the MOD version will only do AVIs and MPEG-1 and MPEG-2 reliably). You could try ImTOO MPEG Converter (Google it), which while of dubious coding quality will convert many files to many other files. A free and perhaps better option is SUPER, though be wary as it will spit out some out of sync files on some formats (but theres so bloody many formats supported that it's hard to list them)!
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That's it. Thank you very much!!
I recorded in H.263_AMR 240x320, and since it was sent to a 6630 it wouldn't play it...
I will record and send in 144x176 and try it!
BTW, why does the quality suck on Mio video capture?
Look at these 2 clips and a bit of a picture.
Sorry bout the long reply, been quite busy recently with work!
Anyway, video capture isnt a particularly strong point with Pocket PCs and phones in general... their processors cant capture full 25fps video at high quality - remember thats like taking 25 photos a second! My Magician wont do nice smooth video even at 176x144, and I daresay that the Mio range fares worse since most of them use the slower Windows Mobile 5. Thats just something that no one seems to be able to fix, unfortunately .
However CoolCamera apparently will work better with the camera than the default camera apps... however I don't think its compatible with the Mio. Even if it does, you'll have to pay for it :roll:. Also note that it can only record to AVI - Motion JPEG codec, so it wont play back on Nokias.
EDIT: Not sure if this is the same case with Mios, but on my Magician, formatting the storage card to FAT16 makes a huge difference to read/write times! Try that to speed up your video to storage card!
I’ve published several articles on Sony Ericsson’s forthcoming Windows Mobile device, the XPERIA X1. Up until now, little had been known of the capabilities of the phone. Now, the S-E folks have just published a white paper, which answers several (but not all!) questions.
It is available HERE for download as a PDF document. (Just enter the anti-denial of service four characters in the input field for access.) The best news is that, according to InfoSyncWorld, it’s coming in August 2008 – that is, earlier than most have thought.
Some of the most interesting stuff the old, MWC / CEBIT leaflets / presentations didn’t provide an answer to and/or could have been improved upon the first prototypes:
- it has a TFT LCD, NOT an OLED screen (some people stated it’d have OLED)
- it seems to have a traditional D-pad in addition to the touchpad if and only if "Four way key - to navigate menus" (see page 7) is what this means. Very good news for most people (see my generic remarks on the issue in my i780 article on touchpads.)
- the camera has both auto-focus and touch focus touch focus. The latter allows for quick focusing on the object you press on the touchscreen - clearly a clever way of focusing to out-of-focus subjects as quickly as possible. However, it seems it won’t have lens protection, unlike the Nokia N95 / N82 (the current top-end Smartphone camera model) and, generally, seems to be weaker.
- as far as the video recording capabilities are concerned, the video size (resolution) and frame rate are VGA and 30 fps, respectively for the non-US model; for the US model, this is QVGA and 24 fps only. Frankly, I just don’t get the point in so severely a dumbed down US model... Did the Sony people go crazy?! Not that I would except Nokia quality shots from the camera (no lens protector and the lens itself seems to be pretty weak), but 30 fps VGA is, today, a MUST in any decent smartphone; therefore, I just don’t understand why they plan to release a device for the US market with such specs. (Nevertheless, I’m absolutely sure some hackers / ROM cookers will be able to enable the American model to operate in VGA mode – if nothing else works, by flashing an European ROM on it.)
- it supports ("Media sharing is compatible with DLNA." on page 6) DLNA (see THIS), which is the first on Windows Mobile (unless you use a DLNA-compatible client). See my UPnP Bible for more info on it.
- it, in addition to the worldwide 3G bands, also supports most (but not all, as it's only tri-band) of the US 3G bands (but, of course, not the forthcoming, absolutely incompatible T-Mobile one); that is, most people in the US will get HSDPA coverage with either bands. This is definitely good news.
- according to page 27, the US version doesn’t support H.264 playback either. (See the H.264 Bible for more info.) Interestingly, the non-US version supports the H.264 Baseline profile.
- according to Page 26, the built-in music player supports eAAC+; that is, HE-AACv2. (I REALLY hope Sony didn’t mess up with the different versions in here.) This means the music player will be something much better than the built-in WMP in Windows Mobile 6 Professional, which doesn’t support this format. (See THIS for more info on this question.) At last some good news for us HE-AACv2 fans using Windows Mobile devices – I may even stop using my N95 as a HE-AACv2 player? ;-)
Note that
- it’s still not known whether it will have 3D hardware acceleration or not. Page 4, which is almost the same as the one in the original MWC leaflet, only lists “HW 3D Graphics” and, unlike most? all? the other list elements, it’s not elaborated on later either. There's a related remark ("3D fish Panel: A cool panel which will showcase the 3D features of the phone (A fish tank with 3D fishes).") on page 6, which MIGHT mean it indeed has hardware acceleration. Again, it is still to be seen whether it's true and whether it has hardware acceleration or not.
- it’s not known whether the built-in MIDlet manager supports Java 3D or not (see “N/A” in the Java 3D row on page 27). Given that the latest, 3.1+ Esmertec Jbed versions all support Java 3D (so far, without hardware acceleration because of the lacking Qualcomm drivers on HTC’s own phones), this MIGHT mean it uses either a non-Esmertec MIDlet manager or a non-3D-capable one. (Not that it’d be hard to install the latest Jbed on it... Still, it might not have support for the 3D hardware acceleration, if any – unlike, say, the Nokia N95 / N82, where hardware accelerated 3D games work just great.) (See the MIDlet Bible for more info.)
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- as far as the video recording capabilities are concerned, the video size (resolution) and frame rate are VGA and 30 fps, respectively for the non-US model; for the US model, this is QVGA and 24 fps only. Frankly, I just don’t get the point in so severely a dumbed down US model... Did the Sony people go crazy?!
- according to page 27, the US version doesn’t support H.264 playback either. (See the H.264 Bible for more info.) Interestingly, the non-US version supports the H.264 Baseline profile.
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These are likely patent related issues.
Surur
I cant see whether its windows 6.1 or 6.1+?
As Surur stated, it's very likely that the difference between the US and European version are related to Patent issues.
As for 3D I've seen a few videos where the SE rep talked about 3D, not to mention having a panel to show off it's 3D capabilities, add to that that HTC says they will have 3D acceleration in future models, it all points to the device most likely having 3D accelerated support.
The most upsetting thing is the touch panel, such a beautiful with an amazing 800x400. For me it's both exciting a and frustrating. The resolution makes pretty much any web site viewable without fiddling with magnification or scrolling around the page. Terminal Services will be even more useable than on a 640x480 display. It's all good as long as you can see it. I guess people will have to wait until the sun goes down
I've said this before but the more I play with an IPhone or Ipod Touch, the more I wish that the Xperia or any Windows Mobile device for that matter had a Capacitive Screen. Not only does it make finger touch cababilities much better. I was playing with an Ipod Touch outside yesterday, it was very sunny. I pulled out my HTC P3600 and compared the screen. The P3600 was unviewable, even with my hand providing some shade, I could still barely see the screen. The IPod Touch screen on the other hand, it was perfectly viewable even with the screen facing the sun.
It's frustrating as hell, I am looking forward to the Xperia, finally a device that isn't missing one feature, high resolution display, 128 megs ram, all radios, even a decent form factor. I'm not a fan of Qwerty keyboards and would like a thinner model (maybe X2) without the keyboard but it's still thinner than my P3600. Still, I'm considering switching to an IPhone. Even with all the limitations and things that I would be missing, the screen and touch goes from frustrating to enjoyable compared to my WM devices.
They should have at least had an OLED display.
I have constructed some video tests and the preliminary data I am getting back is that the Touch Pro is not great when it comes to video playback. Not at the moment anyway. Though my tests were done with the latest Coreplayer I would extrapolate that the results are indicative of the overall video performance irrespective of the player used.
File 1: Mpeg-4 ASP Xvid 320x160 287 kbps
File 2: Mpeg-4 ASP Xvid 640x320 479 kbps
File 3: Mpeg-4 AVC x264 320x160 200 kbps
File 4: Mpeg-4 AVC x264 640x320 400 kbps
All audio is AAC 24 KHz 64 kbps.
Device: HTC Raphael
CPU&Clock: Qualcomm MSM7201A 528MHz
GPU: N/A (integrated ARM926EJ-S [email protected])
ROM: WM6.1 FireROM v0.3
File 1: 205.40%
File 2: 126.52%
File 3: 159.63%
File 4: 68.29%
Device: HTC Hermes
CPU&Clock: Samsung SC32442A ARM 400MHz
GPU: ATI Imageon 2282
ROM: WM6.1 PDACornerPro v25 RBSN
File 1: 387%
File 2: 140%
File 3: 114%
File 4: 34%
I don't know how much the video performance can be improved with newer ROMS or optimised software but I think it will take a while before any drastic improvements are seen, if ever. I have the video files available for those would like to test this for themselves and can PM the links. They short clips might be considered copyrighted so I will not post them.
Hmm
I have some DVD rips which were encoded for use on the Sony PSP, with the following attributes:
Format: MPEG4
Video: AVC aka H.264
Video Size: 480 x 272
Frame Rate: 29.970
Audio: MPEG4 AAC Audio
Audio Format: 96000Hz 2 Ch
I figured it'd be useful to be able to play those rips on my TP, so I tried it using Coreplayer v1.2.5.
There was no sound - I cannot fix this and have raised a ticket with Coreplayer support.
Nevertheless, the benchmark gave an average speed of 101.90% so that's not too bad.
Has anyone else tried these types of files on their TP using Coreplayer? Have you managed to get any sound?
The thread title should be changed into:
"Don't expect great video from CorePlayer on your Raphael."
The problem is not the Raphael. The problem is the CorePlayer! At least when playing MP4 files. I've tested several MP4 files and the CorePlayer is playing them choppy while the WMP Mobile has no problems!
As I've posted in the topic with touch pro issues:
poor directdraw, framebuffer/video performance.
Just to make an idea: an old device from 2005 with omap 850 200mhz CPU performs better in this area than the touch pro @ qualcomm 528mhz. what a shame. The test were done in this topic (in romanian, sorry). CorePlayer was used for benchmark. I will summarize.
- HTC Tornado overclocked (262Mhz) max performance: 174.22%
- Touch Pro max performance: 172,67%
Both in Raw framebuffer mode. When used QTV it gains only 162,64%. How come?
It's pitty, 262Mhz from OMAP performs better than 528!!!Mhz from Qualcomm?!
The video used for tests is this one. (320x240 @ 25FPS)
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Of course, this may be fixed with software optimization.. But it's kinda annoying that the existing 3rd-party doesn't work so well..
I saw in a romanian review that touch pro is under diamond at Graphics index.
diamond: 1662.31
touch pro: 357.03
more: http://www.chip.ro/stiri/hardware/review:_htc_touch_pro/22135 (go to bottom)
peterbonge said:
The thread title should be changed into:
"Don't expect great video from CorePlayer on your Raphael."
The problem is not the Raphael. The problem is the CorePlayer! At least when playing MP4 files. I've tested several MP4 files and the CorePlayer is playing them choppy while the WMP Mobile has no problems!
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All the .mp4 files I transcoded played fine in Coreplayer. The container (.mp4, .avi) is not the problem it's what is inside. Anything benchmarking over a 100% will play smoothly. I will PM you the links to my clips and you can tell me how they all play in both WMP and Coreplayer.
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touch pro is under diamond at Graphics index.
diamond: 1662.31
touch pro: 357.03
more: http://www.chip.ro/stiri/hardware/review:_htc_touch_pro/22135 (go to bottom)
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This is concerning. I want a device where I don't have to worry about converting video any more.
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All the .mp4 files I transcoded played fine in Coreplayer. The container (.mp4, .avi) is not the problem it's what is inside. Anything benchmarking over a 100% will play smoothly. I will PM you the links to my clips and you can tell me how they all play in both WMP and Coreplayer.
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With WMP the first two are running fine, the last two have just sound without a picture. The codec (H.264/MPEG-4 AVC) is not the problem because I have many vids with this codec running fine.
I don't have the time to test the files with the CorePlayer at the moment, but here are the specs of a file which runs choppy with the CorePlayer, but fine with the WMP:
Video: avc1 / H.264/MPEG-4 AVC / 480 x 360 / 509 kbps / 29.971 fps
Audio: mp4a: MPEG-4 AAC LC / 44100Hz 123 kbps, stereo
The problem of the current releases of coreplayer is that the QTV driver provided is not the one for the MSM7201A processor; it's the one of the TyTnII (MSM7200 If I'm not mistaken).
To fully exploit the "graphic accelerator" of our TPs I think we'll have to wait for an optimized version of coreplayer for our HTCs (coreplayer 1.3 as anounced in their website, as they say that a version optimized for Touchs will be released soon).
I've contacted HTC support about video performance.
Answer in short: "The Touch Pro is not made for playing Media. It was made as a business device."
TyTN was made as a business device and included ATI Imageon GPU.
Hmm...guess I learnt something new today. I always thought hardware wise the Touch Pro would be the same if not better than Diamond, i.e. whatever videos the Diamond can play, the Touh Pro can do just as well. But looking at the site provided in Mike's post, I'm guessing that's not the case.
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Hmm...guess I learnt something new today. I always thought hardware wise the Touch Pro would be the same if not better than Diamond, i.e. whatever videos the Diamond can play, the Touh Pro can do just as well. But looking at the site provided in Mike's post, I'm guessing that's not the case.
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I really think there's some kind of error regarding graphics benchmark results there, since Touch Pro has the same CPU, the same 3D accelerator and more RAM !
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I really think there's some kind of error regarding graphics benchmark results there, since Touch Pro has the same CPU, the same 3D accelerator and more RAM !
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Someone could give it a try with another video. I don't have a TP yet ot I'd try it.
Basically I want to be able to throw a 600mb, VGA resolution file from my computer straight onto an SD card and watch it on the go without having to bother about conversions. Is this not possible?
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Someone could give it a try with another video. I don't have a TP yet ot I'd try it.
Basically I want to be able to throw a 600mb, VGA resolution file from my computer straight onto an SD card and watch it on the go without having to bother about conversions. Is this not possible?
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I havent tried this yet, but I will once I get back home tomorrow.. Would be awesome if that worked!
EDIT: Loading in a episode of Dexter (original release, DVDScr.XVID) on, and installing TCMP.. Il post results!
Loaded "Dexter.S03E01.DVDScr.XviD-NOTYOU.avi" onto my memory card and played it in TCPMP and it worked more or less flawlessly!! No need to worry about playback performance! Although to get 100% perfect playback, it should be converted or something as the playback did suffer som slight stutters from time to time.
EDIT: The only thing this device suffers from in terms of video playback is 65k colors.
err that's weird look at the results posted at these sites:
http://img2.portavik.net/upload/file_23/37bd53de9a906fe4/table_bench.gif
and this one:
http://www.ferra.ru/online/communicators/80844/ (in the middle of a page SPB test
Guys sorry, but what are u trying to play in Raphael, that this device is not so powerful for you?
I watched almost 20 movies (DivX for PC) / series on Raphael and withou any problem. Video is smooth, great and thats it...
P.S. I am watching movies on CorePlayer
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Guys sorry, but what are u trying to play in Raphael, that this device is not so powerful for you?
I watched almost 20 movies (DivX for PC) / series on Raphael and withou any problem. Video is smooth, great and thats it...
P.S. I am watching movies on CorePlayer
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When I tried to load up Dexter.S03E01.DVDScr.XviD-NOTYOU with CorePlayer, I only got audio, no video... But TCPMP worked quite well..
yeah im searching for proper video settings to convert files to for my device using catalyst or pocketdivx encoder, still searching on that one.
but then i tried just throwing my original episode of entourage and yeah it looks awesome., will probably do that more often with the faster file transfer and once i get a bigger sd card.
The firmware drivers do need a bit of work and coreplayer 1.2.5 doesn't fully support the touch pro as the makers have made clear.
I would suggest waiting for coreplayer 1.3 and maybe a few newer ROMs before giving final judgement, though Qtv specs on the qualcom chips do say it maxes out at 640x480 15-30fps 384kbps if i remember right.
FYI: Qtv is a software codec specifically designed for maximum performance on the 7201a chipset used by the touch pro. This is what coreplayer does not fully support yet (unlike on the TyTN).
Also, regarding HTC's response, why don't you ask the same question again but about the Touch Diamond, as it's not a business device.
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What 3D accelerator does the Pro/Diamond use? What chip?
There are at least 2 different freeware viewers available, for 3D photos taken with the Optimus 3D, or other stereoscopic images that you may want to view on the 3D screen.
Good to have options to the built-in viewer, which I am guessing is weak on supporting other stereo 3D formats.
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There are at least 2 different freeware viewers available, for 3D photos taken with the Optimus 3D, or other stereoscopic images that you may want to view on the 3D screen.
Good to have options to the built-in viewer, which I am guessing is weak on supporting other stereo 3D formats.
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seems like even the "A*o*e" suit do not support the video or photo!!!
It's all there, there is a workflow description here:
www.a*o*e.com/ie/products/creativesuite/production/stereoscopic-3d.html
Workflow overview
1. Shoot stereo footage, install A*o*e Premiere Pro and Cineform Neo3D
2. Rename assets in A*o*e Bridge for left eye and right eye
3. Use Cineform First Light to convert and multiplex each shot
4. Sync, converge, and adjust muxed assets in First Light
5. Import stereo muxed assets into A*o*e Premiere Pro
6. Edit and add 3D effects and titles in A*o*e Premiere Pro
7. Export stereo 3D assets from A*o*e Media Encoder
seems like even the "A*o*e" suit do not support the video or photo!!!
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It's all there, there is a workflow description here...
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this workflow is for 2 separate video streams, this isn't a problem with footage from the phone so ignore that "workflow"
the video from the LG is a single MP4 file that looks like splitscreen. There is information in the MP4 header to say it is 3D (according to LG and the same with HTC and their phone). Adobe Premier will edit this without a problem, where you will run into problems is wipes, titles etc. (simple crossfades and straight cuts will be fine)
Another problem (right now) will be outputting the file, we don't yet know exactly what codec (and version) to use and how to format it (MP4 3D header?) so it plays in 3D back on the phone, though I expect this to come out pretty quick after the launch of the phone.
As for photos, I can edit them OK in Photoshop, though I have to rename to .jpg first and you need a good understanding of stereoscopic 3D to ensure you edit both "photos" correctly.
THanks for the tip, I will take a look the video lecture to see if it really help.
Because I am using a panasonic cam which produce SBS video and the Fujifim W3(avi) and the SH-12C(3gp) to create video, Editing and effect seems to be complicated with the PP5.5.
Because the SH-12 can only play mp4. it is getting complicate to just convert to the correct format.
I think one way will to to upload it to YT3d and download is back for viewing
People in A*o*e seems to like to work with the big camera with 2X 1080p stream other tha half-SBS or interlace video.
As for the MPO files can you open the 2 layers by just renaming them?
Dear All,
I just bought an Amlogic S812 the Android TV box to replace the old one (Allwiner A31s Android TVbox)
Currently when watching movies with the software MXplayer , it can not Crop the Screen Size to remove black place on top and bottom of screen, it only can use Stretch option to stretch vertically, does not stretch horizontally, so making everything in movies stretch out :crying:
I do not experience this problem on older devices using Allwiner A31s chip.
Pls help me fix this issue
P/S: I face this issue on SONY Bravia 55X9000C Android TV too.
Thank you all.
Anybody??
Same issue with the newest s905x3 chipset, Android 9.0... I don't have all the options in my settings, I can't even place apps on homescreen using Nova Launcher, I can't see the bottom drawer to open all running apps. Do manufacturers modify the Android version they put on these boxes? Is there a way to fix these issues, especially the video player cropping? In my box no player can crop, only stretches vertically, leaving me with an incorrect aspect ratio.
Hi everyone.
This may be a solution.
I get to realise that this thread has a long history and there is no proper answer.
I too had the same problem while using MX player in Android tv. But some video are able to crop view. After many thoughts I get to realise that there are two kind of popular encoding in mkv format.
Videos encoded in H.264 have no problem. But if it is H.265 commonly known as HEVC it will no crop or zoom in.
I currently use H.264 video for maximum use of my tv screen.
Please Google these encoding method for better understanding. There are some interesting comparison between two.
Happy watching