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What is the difference between these two phones (if any) and what are the differences between them and the Wizard?
Iy would be great if someone (e.g HTC) had a simple features comparison on their website but I guess that is asking for a little too much!
it's the same device... just different name
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What is the difference between these two phones (if any) and what are the differences between them and the Wizard?
Iy would be great if someone (e.g HTC) had a simple features comparison on their website but I guess that is asking for a little too much!
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http://europe.htc.com/products/tytn.php
here you can find all specs
well it just mean that htc will not be using their internal code name
as the name they will be selling their devices retail
Rudegar said:
well it just mean that htc will not be using their internal code name
as the name they will be selling their devices retail
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yes they are planning from now sell also under the brand name HTC
The TyTN is the HTC branded Hermes. T-Mobile will call it the vario II, Orange the M3100 or something and HTC names it's own device the TyTN. They are all the same hardware, only software can differ from carrier to carrier, the same as in the past with Qtek, I-Mate, T-Mobile etc. HTC chose not only to produce the Hermes, but to market the device under their own brand name as well as the TyTN.
The main differences with the Vario I are UMTS, HSPDA ready, better camera, extra cam for video telephone, jog dial and different design and button lay-out.
Dopod call Dopod 9000 or CHT9000 came out Taiwan market today,price will be NT$25,800.00 about US$800.00.
http://shopping.pchome.com.tw/dopod/detail.php?pid=AZV00183
sorry that is Chinese.
Koksie said:
The TyTN is the HTC branded Hermes. T-Mobile will call it the vario II, Orange the M3100 or something and HTC names it's own device the TyTN. They are all the same hardware, only software can differ from carrier to carrier, the same as in the past with Qtek, I-Mate, T-Mobile etc. HTC chose not only to produce the Hermes, but to market the device under their own brand name as well as the TyTN.
The main differences with the Vario I are UMTS, HSPDA ready, better camera, extra cam for video telephone, jog dial and different design and button lay-out.
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I started doing some digging and I am now wondering if it is really better than the Wizard. Here is what I found (warning - this is to the best of my knowledge and my uasge for the device may vary from yours so as always YMMV)
Here are the pros...
Faster processor (nice and sweet!)
more connectivity (nice if cingular gets the network up!)
Better camera (although this is a wash for me since I don't use the camera for anything close to serious.)
Jog dial - might be nice
Washes
Screen size and quality - same (not that it is bad now though)
Size - About the same. TyTN is a little longer but a bit narrower and not as deep.
Memory - Same with 128/64 and I was hoping this would be better.
Cons
Weight - The TyTN actually weighs more (26g) than the Wizard or at least the 8125 version. Not a huge deal but would be nicer to go the other way, especially if the extra weight is for a second camera for videophone that I will never use!
Micro SD - This is debatable but I see three negatives here... MicroSD does not have the capcaity that MiniSD does and I will have to get all new cards. Also mini sd is $34 for 1GB and micro SD is $47 or 38% more expensive (from new egg) If at least the tradeoff was a siginificantly smaller form factor then I would say it was okay but that is not the case so why!
odd Headphone jack - Okay, most people probably use bluetooth anyway so who cares about a hard jack, but why make upgrading any more costly than it is now. If it is to get a higher sound quality, who cares since with the reduced storage space of Micro SD it is not like you can load up 320 kbps mp3s anyway!
So basically my question is why would most people upgrade? This seems like a mild improvement at best with enough potential cons to make it a no go. That is really disappointing!
well my two cents on the Wizard and the Hermes ....
before the Cingular 8125 came out or any of the HTC Wizard flavors were available in the US, the Hermes has been in the news so i myself was planning to get an O2 XDA mini S (which i was planning to use in California) to somewhat replace my XDA Exec, I read about the Hermes and told myself to hold off and wait for the 3G version of the Wizard ... Note that the processor's clock speed is twice of the wizard ... Note also that the same Hermes CPU has been compared equal or better than the XDA Exec's Intel XScale 520Mhz CPU ...
If you are using the Cingular network then you might want to go get the Hermes maybe around the end of the year since 3G won't be available until then for Cingular ... while T-Mobile, well forget it, they won't roll out 3G in the next 2 years or so ...
It's just disappointing that we in the US are behind in mobile phone technology ... yeah we're catching up but we're still behind ....
For me the biggest plus is the UMTS. in Holland we have a 9.5 euros per month data plan with unlimited GPRS/WIfi/UMTS. A nice offer to go with the Hermes. You are right that the extra weight and the micro SD are cons, but since I hav not yet invested too much in mini SD that is not really an issue for me. Neither is the headset plug, I use the standard ones or a BT headset, so no biggie for me, especially since the Hermes will feature A2DP. And the extra weight is not important for me, I'm strong enough for the extra 26 gr.
The faster processor and the jog dial alone are worth the upgrade for me especially since it will not cost me much. Maybe 200 euros with a 1 year extension, so that's reasonable (Vario I only cost me 84 euros with a 1 year extension for 22.5 euros per month). UMTS is enough to really make the decision easy for me, let the Vario II arrive!
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Note that the processor's clock speed is twice of the wizard ...
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Partly true. The Mhz of the Hermes is twice as much and that might mean that the clock speed is doubled, but the overall speed and performance is not necessarily twice as high.
Different architecture makes an OMAP processor not easily comparable to an XScale or Samsung processor, at least not just based on Mhz. OMAP is double core and other architectural differences make the comparison above too simplified. You can compare it to the AMD and Intel processors, different Mhz (Ghz) but equal or better performance.
Anothe example are the MP in a digital camera. Just the amount of pixels does not mean much, 6 MP camera's with inferior lenses and chips may perform worse than 4 Mp camera's with better lenses and chips. We see it everyday in our beloved HTC devices, 1.3 MP in a Wizard sounds nice, but I know vga (300k) camera's that make better pictures than the Wizard.
Don't get blinded by the Mhz of the processor, that's all I want to say.
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for me umts is the plus
and the cam is the thing i care little about
the quality of cmos cams which are used in mobiles
because the ccd which real dig cams use, use too much power
is poor even if it's 10MP
their problem is not pixels but colours and light sensitivness
imho they can only be used to photo poor pictures of loch ness
and ufo's and then you can mms the photo to your friends or something
I think the first CCD phone/pda was announced this week. The Qool Labs QDA Icon http://asia.cnet.com/reviews/handhelds/0,39001708,39260541p,00.htm
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Don't get blinded by the Mhz of the processor, that's all I want to say.
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But it's really fast. I have both, wizard and hermes.
Hi Raskal,
I know you are a big and busy man, but pls find some time to reply to my PMs sent to u..
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raskal said:
Koksie said:
Don't get blinded by the Mhz of the processor, that's all I want to say.
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But it's really fast. I have both, wizard and hermes.
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Gotta be I guess...
Hermes is the project CodeName
Typically, when hardware or software products are originally developed, the engineering group chooses a code name for the project/product, so that (1) it will be easily spoken and recognized which project you're talking about in daily conversation (within the circle of people involved in it), and (2) to make it harder for competitors to initially figure out what the project is about if they hear the name. Hermes was HTC's code name for the development project for a device whose derivatives were ultimately produced under a variety of different Marketing Names for HTC's distribution partners (eg, O2, Vodaphone, Cingular, T-Mobile, Verizon, etc). Recently, HTC decided to distribute a Hermes version under their own marketing brand ("HTC Tytn", and developed a reseller distribution channel for that brand outside of their original wireless carrier partners.
Another example of this that many folks have already heard of: Microsoft's code name for the development of a future operating system project that they started back around 2001 or so was "Longhorn"; the resulting product(s) from that project is about to ship now as "Vista". BTW, an interesting bit of trivia on this one: the MS engineering team that develop Windows were being taken to Whistler/Blackcomb ski resort in BC once per year (perk) to party & relax. So when it came time to come up with a code name for the next version of Windows to develop, they chose "Whistler" (the products coming out of this project were eventually given the names by Marketing as "Windows XP" and "Windows Server 2003"). Shortly after the Whistler project began, they also began the development of Whistler's successor, and gave it the code name of "Blackcomb" (which is the twin mountain at the ski resort next to Whistler Mountain); however, the development timeline for the original specs of Blackcomb was underestimated, feature-creep also set in which lengthened completion even more, so it became apparent that an "interim" version of Windows needed to be released before Blackcomb was ready. At the ski resort' base village, the gondola lift stations for the two mountains are a short walking distance apart, and in-between them is a bar called the "Longhorn Saloon", so they named this "in-between" development project Longhorn; as mentioned above, the Marketing name assigned to the products from this project is Vista. Meanwhile, further delays and problems plagued the Blackcomb project, so another project & code name came into existence "Vienna", and it is now uncertain whether project Blackcomb will continue or if Vienna takes its place (probably the latter). The Vienna code name came about because it is one of the cities of the world with a spectacular vista (view). Just goes to show that there are usually interesting stories behind how the development groups choose project code names, and how creative they can be. Makes you wonder what the story is behind HTC choosing the "Hermes" name, huh?
I too have both the Wizard (Cingular 8125 version) and a new HTC Tytn version of Hermes. The most important differences to me are:
> A2DP/AVRCP, and it works! (supports stereo Bluetooth headphones)
> Jog-dial (I'll use keys before stylus any chance I can get)
> Faster processor (Need for Speed)
> 2mp camera (I've rarely used a phone camera in the past because of low-res/poor quality, but now we're getting into the ballpark of acceptable quality pix)
> teleconferencing camera on the front (curious about using a potentially very cool feature as teleconferencing continues to grow among my friends & family)
> UMTS/HSDPA (Need for Speed again). Browsing with Edge is a pain in the *ss. I've become addicted to UMTS in my notebook computer wireless card...almost like DSL, and now I can actually USE the phone for browsing. I'm a "blue-side" (ATT Wireless) Cingular customer, fortunate to have UMTS around me here.
> I think the Tytn is immediately superior to the Wizard phones over-all. Worth getting one now, instead of waiting for UMTS network completion.
I concur with the previous poster about the Tytn shortcomings, in particular:
> No 2.5/3.5mm headset jack (the HTC guys that decided that one should be hung by their tongues); I'm building an adapter right now so that I can hopefully use some decent headphones & mike (the earbuds/mike that comes with the phone is crap)
> headphone connector (miniUSB) is located in an unusual location, such that third party carrying cases' made for the installed base of popular HTC phones (eg, Vaja) now have the headphone hole cut-out in the "wrong" location (ie, can't listen to mp3 music via wired headphones when the phone is in the case, unless you butcher the case to make a hole in the "right" location)
> boring aesthetic design...in a world where Motorola, Sony and now even
Samsung are leading the market in sexy styling, the HTC phones are looking pretty staid & grim.
> When is a Windows Mobile phone going to get a reliable voice-dialer, like that of the Treo (had one of those before the Wizard)? This thing is a deaf & dumb when it comes to voice recognition!
> the freakin' dial-pad buttons are STILL too small (Wizard has same problem)! I'm constantly fat-fingering the wrong keys on the screen, and I'm tired of using my fingernail to dial...does anyone out there have a better dial-pad that takes up most of the screen that can be loaded into this thing?
Guys, we are now expecting a brand new PDA specific mount for the Hermes, Artemis and Trinity series, dues to be launched on our site next week. We're looking for one or two person from UK to review this product. If you are interested, please pm me with your detail.
Thank you...
Thank you everyone for your fantastic feedback regarding product review. We have been inundated with enquiries about this product and holder are finally in stock, link below. We have chosen number of forum members for the review and review offer is now closed.
XDA Orbit holders are due within next 7-10days. All others are in stock and ready to dispatch.
HTC Trinity / P3600, Orange SPV M700, Qtek P3600, Dopod D810 / CHT9100
http://www.pdahut.com/store/product.php?productid=18786
HTC Artemis / P3300, Orange SPV M650, T-Mobile Comact III, Qtek G200, Dopod P800W
http://www.pdahut.com/store/product.php?productid=18789
HTC TyTN / Hermes, Orange SPV M3100, T-Mobile MDA Vario II, O2 XDA Trion, Vodafone 1605, Qtek 9600
http://www.pdahut.com/store/product.php?productid=18780
HTC Advantage / T-Mobile Ameo
http://www.pdahut.com/store/product.php?productid=18794
Thank you for your support
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Thank you everyone for your fantastic feedback regarding product review. We have been inundated with enquiries about this product and holder are finally in stock, link below. We have chosen number of forum members for the review and review offer is now closed.
XDA Orbit holders are due within next 7-10days. All others are in stock and ready to dispatch.
HTC Trinity / P3600, Orange SPV M700, Qtek P3600, Dopod D810 / CHT9100
http://www.pdahut.com/store/product.php?productid=18786
HTC Artemis / P3300, Orange SPV M650, T-Mobile Comact III, Qtek G200, Dopod P800W
http://www.pdahut.com/store/product.php?productid=18789
HTC TyTN / Hermes, Orange SPV M3100, T-Mobile MDA Vario II, O2 XDA Trion, Vodafone 1605, Qtek 9600
http://www.pdahut.com/store/product.php?productid=18780
HTC Advantage / T-Mobile Ameo
http://www.pdahut.com/store/product.php?productid=18794
Thank you for your support
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I really would like to know if there is one single chosen forum member?
To me it seems this is cheap advertising!
I was chosen.
It's not just a marketing ploy, they really do want feedback...
By the look of the images, it seems that the Trinty has to be slid into the holder.
Now, I have reservations when it somes to plastic sliding against plastic, as this inevitably means scratches.
I doubt the reviewers will use their own Trinity's to constantly slide the unit in and out of the holder, but I certaily would not consider a holder which would potentially scratch my PDA after frequent use.
What is the 'executive' element of these holders?
Noony said:
I was chosen.
It's not just a marketing ploy, they really do want feedback...
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good to know that you are the chosen one, neo ! ;-)
I currently use a brodit active mount my PDA. I also used the same for my previous phone (Prophet/M600). I've used these mounts for over a year and like PaulusUK I did not feel comfortable sliding plastic against plastic (and the brodit ones are very snug) but so far - no damage at all (and I use my PDA loads).
I will give some feedback about the new mount when I've had chance to look at it/try is out for a few days...
I've managed to use this mount for about 300 miles here's the feedback:
It's a lot more durable than it looks on the pictures.
It's very adjustable and tightens up easily and nicely.
The slide in fit is secure and maybe not quite as tight as the brodit I do not see any problems with scratching although I will keep testing over the months and report back if anything happens.
The ball joint and extendible arm are nice touches.
The suction cup is one of the strongest I've seen although not quite as strong as the RAM version I cannot image it ever falling off.
It's virtually vibration free, you get a touch of vibration at times although it's nothing I could really complain about (it's loads better than the RAM).
I've used over 15 different mounts over many years and in summary this one is neat strong and does the job very well. I recommend it.
If anyone has any questions please just ask and I will try to help.
Noony said:
I've managed to use this mount for about 300 miles here's the feedback:
It's a lot more durable than it looks on the pictures.
It's very adjustable and tightens up easily and nicely.
The slide in fit is secure and maybe not quite as tight as the brodit I do not see any problems with scratching although I will keep testing over the months and report back if anything happens.
The ball joint and extendible arm are nice touches.
The suction cup is one of the strongest I've seen although not quite as strong as the RAM version I cannot image it ever falling off.
It's virtually vibration free, you get a touch of vibration at times although it's nothing I could really complain about (it's loads better than the RAM).
I've used over 15 different mounts over many years and in summary this one is neat strong and does the job very well. I recommend it.
If anyone has any questions please just ask and I will try to help.
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Is it possible to p u s h on the screen e.g. if you want to dial a number, can you do it in the holder (I hope you understand what I am trying to say) ?
saminegm said:
Is it possible to p u s h on the screen e.g. if you want to dial a number, can you do it in the holder (I hope you understand what I am trying to say) ?
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No problem pushing on the screen. But if you have the arm extended you need to push it back first, then it's solid (hope this makes sense).
Noony said:
No problem pushing on the screen. But if you have the arm extended you need to push it back first, then it's solid (hope this makes sense).
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Yeah I think I understand. The extension is not fixed.
best pda mount ever (in my opinion anyway)... i bought it from the uk via ebay
http://stores.ebay.com/Buybits-GPS-Navigation-Store
search for keywords "bb deluxe magnetic mount"
it's magnetic and the pda mount is covered with soft rubber (or foam) so you don't need to worry about scratches. all you need to do is attach a small piece of metal to the back of your pda.
Guys
Before I go rushing off playing with the innards/ software of my sparkleing xda orbit 2 , is it the same as the HTC touch Cruise ?
Any notable differences other than the o2 sticker on the front !
Astro1
Yes, the "design"
(other notable differences:
The slider to get access to the battery)
No, there aren't any differences in hardware. I wondered why the Orbit 2 has such a high Sar value (1,71) and the Polaris a significant lower one (0,888). So I asked o2 and all what they said so far is, that the hardware is identical. Only the plastic cover is different (they are asking HTC for the different values).
When you compare these devices you can see, that all the buttons are at the same places.
Even the ROM-Version tells you, that it is an Polaris (just like it does in the Touch Cruise afaik).
What SAR value?!?!?! That's enormous!
That's why a lot of people here in Germany were concerned about the phone (the given limit by law is 2,0). Most people think that's a mistake. Afaik the value was told to o2 from HTC when they started to print the manuals for the Orbit 2. Due to the fact, that the Orbit was available two months earlier than the TC it could really be a mistake. As I said, o2 is asking HTC for the different values.
(I think the different covers can lead to a different SAR-Wert, but not as much as claimed here)
Hi,
I'm wondering if anyone has any new comments regarding the reception quality of the Touch Pro.
Best Regards, Simon.
As poor as my S710 and Tornado before it, so crudely 3 bars where my blackberry or SE K700 get 5 bars.
No difference to my tytn II.
UK Antenna or US version
I bought the Diamond when it first came out. I loved the phone, but reception was so bad up here in MN USA that I could not use it. So sadly, I had to sell it. I now see that Best Buy will carry the US version (with the right antenna for the AT&T), but now I want a keyboard. That leaves me with the Pro option. I currently have the Cruise and it works great. So here's my question:
If I buy the Diamond Pro, will I have the same issues I had with the original Diamond? Is there such a thing as a Pro US version? Or will it work as good as my Cruise with doesn't have a US version?
Please help,
--Frank
My theory: If you are using european version in USA,maybe there's the problem with antenna. EU uses frequencies 900/1800MHz,while USA is using 950/1900MHz(based on unused military frequencies). Antennas are designed for current wave length - lambda or lambda/2. In USA there are bands shifted a bit and therefore the EU antenna is not so effective as in native bands. Even it is parametrized as quadband,2 of them are simply not so effective as others.
leap of faith
Thanks for your answer. What you say makes sense, but I might be too dense to figure out if my answer is in there or not .
Will the Diamond Pro act more like my HTC Cruise (also UK version) which works just fine or more like the Diamond UK version which had horrid reception?
I'm hoping that because it's "quad-band" it will be more like the Cruise. I went ahead and placed an order for one, so I guess I'll find out 1st hand. I'll come back and post results.
One more question...I see the Pro won't be 3G in the US. I don't think my Cruise is either, but HSDP works great. Will this also be the case with the Pro? Isn't this a faster version of 3G anyway?
--Frank
Equal as my older phone, an Qtek S200, the same to say that on my work, my desk is on a location that with HTC devices I have a poor signal, one bar or no signal, but with nokia and SE devices I have much better signal, three or four bars.
Very disappointed because I don't understand why they still didn't improved in this area.
No difference to my Tytn II which was a little bit better (higher signal) than the Tytn.
But, both were "European" versions.
Regards, D
bad reception wherever i go
I use the TP since three weeks, still with original ROM and RADIO (see signature).
I traveled may parts of Europe and even Japan, and wherever I go, I have bad reception (sometime TP is searching for network while I am on the motorway close to a big city.
My girlfriend has my Hermes with latest radio update found here in the forum, and she has much better reception.
I hope HTC will release some updates soon.
I can't believe that HTC asks hundreds of euros for this poor quality hardware and software.
Seems like they release beta (if not alpha) version of the phones, just to enter the market some weeks earlier.
Hi Friends:
I'm seriously considering to cancel my HTC MOGUL PPC-6800 and buy the new HTC TOUCH PRO 2, however, would help me with their experiences and recommendations especially coming from current owners ... my questions are:
1. Can I keep my number of Iusacell (Mogul) in new TP2?
2. Is there a procedure to obtain the "SPC Code MSL?
3. Are the procedure and software to unlock (Hard-SPL) the TP2?
4. What are your experiences with the latest ROMs for the TP2? What worked best for them?
5. What are the main differences between TP1 and TP2?
6. Other Recommendations for the Acquisition of a TP2? (clean ESN, accessories, etc.).
Thanks
TecMan
SPRINT HTC MOGUL PPC-6800
ROM version: Titan 23017-Mattsm
Carrier: Iusacell-Mexico (Plan Elite-50)
Radio version: 3.42.50
Memory Card: 8GB microSDHC
The TP2 CDMA is not currently unlockable. Cmonex at PPCGeeks is close, the had the HardSPL done but had some issues with the radio updates and had to redo some work.
The difference between the TP and TP2 is more or less overall quality and screen size. I suggest you visit cnet and watch a review for each.
1. Generally yes, you can keep your number, but make certain to keep your account (the one that currently HAS that number) active until the porting is complete.
2. The MSL can be easily obtained on the Sprint model, but my understanding is that the MSL on the Verizon must be gotten from customer support. The good news there is that they have been very generous with that information for existing customers. New customers must have service for 60 days or more.
3. As pointed out above, this is not yet ready and is KILLING those of us that already have the phone.
4. As there is no HardSPL for the CDMA versions, there are no custom roms to be had (yet), though several chefs have them ready. The GSM-only versions of the device (HTC's and Tmobile's) have SPL and roms, but they have no headphone jack.
5. PROS: The biggest and best reason to switch is the huge and stunning screen on the TP2. I have both, and as much as I loved the clarity of the TP's screen, it was always too small. The 3.6" on the TP2 is bigger, just as sharp, higher resolution, and more responsive. The keyboard is so damn big as to be superlative, the return of screen-tilting is fantastic, the built-in headphone jack rocks, the new speakerphone setup is as good as claimed, once quickGPS is installed the GPS locks are nearly instantaneous, and the whole device *feels* faster despite being on roughly the same hardware. Oh, the new wifi chip is MUCH better on battery when on but not being actively used and it never gets blistering hot like the TP1.
CONS: It's both larger and heavier than the TP1 - about the same size and weight as the old Tilt, tho it fits the hand better than the tilt. It's pricey to be sure, it has NO D-PAD! This sounds minor, but has proven to be a hassle with certain programs (particularly my e-reader).
In the end, I *love* the TP2 and wouldn't consider switching back under any circumstances.
6. Clean ESN?? ALWAYS: why line yourself up for trouble? While my device showed up with a screen protector in the box, it wasn't a very good one, so I'd recommend you order the phone and a good protector at the same time. Look carefully into GPS software: some versions are not playing nice with the monster screen on the TP2, though I've used Google Maps and Route 66 without issue. There are also a instructions on how to get Igo 8 working on it.
Isn't the MSL for Verizon 000000. I'm pretty sure it is
Be aware:
football0552 said:
The TP2 CDMA is not currently unlockable. Cmonex at PPCGeeks is close, the had the HardSPL done but had some issues with the radio updates and had to redo some work.
The difference between the TP and TP2 is more or less overall quality and screen size. I suggest you visit cnet and watch a review for each.
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I think there are 2 differents topics here: (if I'm in the wrong way, ps tell me)
The HardSPL it's for changing the ROM
And for "Unlock" "carrier" you need CID/Security/SIM Unlocker.
I just bought the TP2 Sprint Model, and I use with my new carrier in Mexico: Iusacell...
football0552 said:
The TP2 CDMA is not currently unlockable. Cmonex at PPCGeeks is close, the had the HardSPL done but had some issues with the radio updates and had to redo some work.
The difference between the TP and TP2 is more or less overall quality and screen size. I suggest you visit cnet and watch a review for each.
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I had the Touch Pro and now I have had the Touch Pro 2 for about 2 or 3 weeks. I have to tell you the TP and TP2 are NOTHING even in the same class. I think they under stated and down talked the device just calling it a Touch Pro. Don't get me wrong, I loved the Touch Pro but its nothing compared to the Touch Pro 2. Most of the hardware is the same like CPU, GPS and so on. The screen is huge and with a 480x800 rez looks impressive. The new Touch Flow is faster and smoother but has some little bugs. HTC added there own txt program but the wm6.1 txt program seems to have lost some function. For example, simple copy and past is a 12 step program now as before was highlight and go. The TP2 don't look, feel or act anything like the TP did. ohhh and my favorite fix over the TP was the slide out. The TP felt to me like it could break at any second and had lots of slop. The TP2 has 2 points of contact in the slide out and is tight with NO slop or unwanted movement. The tilt screen is cool for show but I don't find any function for it. I have a friend whom tilts every time he text so..... some could find use.
andresgvc said:
I think there are 2 differents topics here: (if I'm in the wrong way, ps tell me)
The HardSPL it's for changing the ROM
And for "Unlock" "carrier" you need CID/Security/SIM Unlocker.
I just bought the TP2 Sprint Model, and I use with my new carrier in Mexico: Iusacell...
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the question is what do i need to do to get it on metropcs?
DJ_SirG said:
I had the Touch Pro and now I have had the Touch Pro 2 for about 2 or 3 weeks. I have to tell you the TP and TP2 are NOTHING even in the same class. I think they under stated and down talked the device just calling it a Touch Pro. Don't get me wrong, I loved the Touch Pro but its nothing compared to the Touch Pro 2. Most of the hardware is the same like CPU, GPS and so on. The screen is huge and with a 480x800 rez looks impressive. The new Touch Flow is faster and smoother but has some little bugs. HTC added there own txt program but the wm6.1 txt program seems to have lost some function. For example, simple copy and past is a 12 step program now as before was highlight and go. The TP2 don't look, feel or act anything like the TP did. ohhh and my favorite fix over the TP was the slide out. The TP felt to me like it could break at any second and had lots of slop. The TP2 has 2 points of contact in the slide out and is tight with NO slop or unwanted movement. The tilt screen is cool for show but I don't find any function for it. I have a friend whom tilts every time he text so..... some could find use.
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nice :> mine is sitting still wrapped...