Imate Ultimate 9502 Tv out question - General Questions and Answers

I am looking at buying an imate ultimate but there seems to be some issues with charging it while the Tv out is connected....
I want to be able to display my tomtom on an external screen that i have in my car, it is much bigger than a phone screen.....
I have been led to believe that i cannot charge the phone while i am using tomtom which is pretty useless really.....
Is anybody aware if there are any ways around this...?? Is there a cable that can be bought or made up....??
Is there any way to identify what pins do what and how to make up a cable...??
Can 11 pin usb ends be purchased from anywhere to make a cable....???

Duracell Bunny said:
I am looking at buying an imate ultimate but there seems to be some issues with charging it while the Tv out is connected....
I want to be able to display my tomtom on an external screen that i have in my car, it is much bigger than a phone screen.....
I have been led to believe that i cannot charge the phone while i am using tomtom which is pretty useless really.....
Is anybody aware if there are any ways around this...?? Is there a cable that can be bought or made up....??
Is there any way to identify what pins do what and how to make up a cable...??
Can 11 pin usb ends be purchased from anywhere to make a cable....???
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Sorry for the late response. Had not noticed your post before. The TV-out cable, which is included in the 9502 package, already allows its battery to be charged whilst connected to the TV/projector.
Just my 2 cents...
Cheers!
Carlos

Hi Carlos.....
Hadn't checked back until just now........
Thanks for your response though.................
This means i can use it for my sat-nav without the phone going flat.......!!
Thanks for replying, dead chuffed now......... Can you tell.......!!
Roger

Duracell Bunny said:
Hi Carlos.....
Hadn't checked back until just now........
Thanks for your response though.................
This means i can use it for my sat-nav without the phone going flat.......!!
Thanks for replying, dead chuffed now......... Can you tell.......!!
Roger
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You're welcome, Roger! Some pieces of advices: if you decide to buy an i-mate 9502, register it on www.imate.com right away, in order to be allowed to use their i-Q services (very useful, IMHO), then dowload their official WM6.1 v1.77 ROM from there, and flash it on your device.
You see, although I've come from a much beloved HTC Universal (O2 Xda Exec flavoured), I have never regreted having shifted to the 9502.
Cheers!
Carlos

yes the tv-out cable is included in the package. The TV-Out feature works perfect and there is still a way to plug your charger on.
there is also an option (Start -> Settings -> System -> TV Out) for NTSC and PAL tv systems. Checked on PAL and works...

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xdaII bottom connector problem

hi im new and have a quick query im desperate for an xdaII and it seems ive found a bargain the problem is the connector on the base of the xdaII is not working so the phone will not charge and will not sync with pc on the cradle,battery has to be charged seperate from the pda,ive heard this is a common fault but is it easy to repair as i obviously would like to be able to charge it but more importantly i want to use it with a wired gps cradle for my tom tom navigator.
It all depends on how badly the port is broken.
Here is a page that shows diagrams ofthe connection pins, hopefully it will help you repair it.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Connectors
thanks ive been reading through any old topics i could find and i think my best bet is to just wait and buy a fully working unit.cheers
well happy to say ive now purchased an spv m1000 which is only a month old so im very pleased,and ill be visiting here lots to learn how to use it to its full potential.

Micro USB works on Touch Pro...!!!

Hi guys...!!!
I got a bit excited seeing my normal micro usb cable works with the touch pro. I just plugged it in for fun but it actually detected the cable and even my pc recognised the touch pro...
Did you guys know about it???
Just thought of sharing this piece of info with you all...
akash_nu said:
Did you guys know about it???
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yes... lol
thanks anyway!
Worked with all of the HTC devices I've used so far (Universal, Kaiser, Artemis, and Raphael) - still good to mention, though.
ROFL!!
And BTW: It's MiniUSB, not MicroUSB.
this must be a joke..seriously lol
the htc usb plug (the 3 way audio/charger/tvout) isc alled a "non standard mini usb" and your normal mini usb is a "standard" the only function the non standard plug utilizes is all the audio/headset controls (the bottom 5 pins) while he top 4 (associated with the standard mini usb functions) control the + and - voltages and data transfer. so one would naturally assume and realize that ANY mini usb would work And the fact that the wall charger that comes with any htc device utlizes the standard mini usb design so its a no brainer..
Sorry, dint know that you all knew about it... Lol...
is this your first htc device?
It's the simple things we take for granted...
Yeah this is my 1st HTC device... I am still learning and just reading and getting to know this beast slowly... Lol...
HTC has a different name for it, they call it: HTC ExtUSB™!
Besides the PRO, the other PDA that I had was the Qtek S200 and it had a "normal" miniUSB connection.
n00b.
hey, guess what...I can press buttons on the screen with my finger!
(sorry dude, don't mean to offend you or anything really......its just that such posts are hard to come by and its beyond my ability to control the evil side in me)
Akash,
I can understand your surprise. I remember just a few HTC devices ago, (maybe the SX66), you had to know the pinout for the cable for the exact device. To make matters worse, many different cables with the same looking connector, had opposing pinouts. So you could actually fry your device plugging in a lookalike cable.
So remember, don't be afraid to jump in on any topic here.
I'm trying to get mini-USB cables from monoprice... how many pins does the mini-B connector have?
monoprice has 4 pin, 5 pin, 8 pin, 14 pin usb->mini b cables.

Official HTC Desire Car Kit

Mobile Fun now have details on the official HTC Desire car kit. Still no price though:
http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/htc-desire-car-upgrade-kit-p24570.htm
Apparently placing the device in the holder activates something called the 'navipanel' which must be similar to the 'Car Home' app on the Nexus One.
I'll wait for a price and reviews before deciding whether to replace my current car holder
EDIT
I just found further details on the HTC Accessory site from Expansys. The dock will set you back £65 and isn't due til the 5th July.
http://www.htcaccessorystore.com/uk/p_htc_item.aspx?i=199788
Hmm recon there going to put this navi panel on the app market? or do a upgrade?
It's just this.
Regards,
Dave
Sorry to dig up an old thread, but things have moved on with this accessory! It is now available for order (although it is still £65.99!) from htcaccessorystore.
The question then is, is it worth £65.99? Other than auto-loading navipanel what does this give us over a standard mount and car charger?
If somebody buys one and works out what triggers dock mode it would be sweet!
I have recently acquired one of these and it does not activate any software within the phone. It does switch on 'car mode' which allows the speaker-phone to activate when a call comes in. I have contacted HTC support and was given this reply,
"Dear xxxxxx,
Sorry for the delayed response. I have investigated the issue a bit further - the Desire does not come with the "NaviPanel” software, as the manufacturer claims, and there is no download available for it. There is a “Navigation” app, which you can find in the list of all apps, but I am not sure if it is the same. Alternatively, you can go to Android market and search for “Car Home” or “Car dock” and try out some of the 3rd party apps available, but please be aware HTC does not produce those, so you will be using them at your own risk.
To send a reply to this message or let me know I have successfully answered your question log in to our ContactUs site using your email address and your ticket number xxxxxxxxxxxx.
Sincerely,
Viktor"
I am somewhat annoyed that HTC have stated in the car holder instruction manual and in the original press release, that the 'Navipanel' is activated when the phone is docked. It was a huge selling point for me, as I use the phone in the car more than anything and this feature would have made it easier to operate the phone in the dock.
Have you instaled navi panel, you can find it on here somewhere.
I'm thinking of getting one of these, but only if it works properly!
so no one bought this?
I've bought the car kit and just received the shipment. I have to admit it looks really nice and feels robust. I'll be trying some of the third party Apps for the next few days and will keep in touch...
Hi,
I have one question, Does it recognize the charger as USB or AC ?
ThankU
brrrbaybay said:
I've bought the car kit and just received the shipment. I have to admit it looks really nice and feels robust. I'll be trying some of the third party Apps for the next few days and will keep in touch...
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None of the third party app's I've tried could convince me that Car-mode is a great and usable feature. Maybe that's why HTC decided to discontinue (or never started working on?) this feature?
Also,
Using or holding (and even touching for that matter) a phone while driving is illegal in The Netherlands and will cost you about 150,- Euro. Even if it's only being used a a navigation device.
I personally think Google should improve Voice search and release a Dutch version soon
@_dGs_
Previously, when using generic car chargers and running CoPilot, my battery still slowly drained. I've noticed that since I've got the official Dock, this problem doesn't occur anymore. So I assume that it'll show AC. I'll have a look at it when driving home today to make sure.
brrrbaybay said:
@_dGs_
Previously, when using generic car chargers and running CoPilot, my battery still slowly drained. I've noticed that since I've got the official Dock, this problem doesn't occur anymore. So I assume that it'll show AC. I'll have a look at it when driving home today to make sure.
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From experience with my Touch Pro and Kaiser, the generic adaptors do not deliver enough power for a phone that is making calls, a Bluetooth connection and GPS. These generic devices seem to deliver USB levels of power. Look at your wall charger and it is rated at 1 Amp. A genuine HTC car charger will give the correct level of power (until the battery gets too hot and shuts off charging) - this hasn't happend on my Desire yet, but would do so on my Touch Pro, even with the AC vent directed at the phone...
_dGs_ said:
Hi,
I have one question, Does it recognize the charger as USB or AC ?
ThankU
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a little bit later then promised, but: When connected to the official HTC CarKit, the desire says it's connected to an AC power source.
66mustang said:
From experience with my Touch Pro and Kaiser, the generic adaptors do not deliver enough power for a phone that is making calls, a Bluetooth connection and GPS. These generic devices seem to deliver USB levels of power. Look at your wall charger and it is rated at 1 Amp. A genuine HTC car charger will give the correct level of power (until the battery gets too hot and shuts off charging) - this hasn't happend on my Desire yet, but would do so on my Touch Pro, even with the AC vent directed at the phone...
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After I bought the Desire I also also bought a 1200mA (max output current) generic USB charger for use in my car. Friends of mine who have an Iphone were using this charger because this phone also has the problem.
The 'funny' thing is that this charger didn't solve the problem on my Desire. Perhaps HTC chargers identify themselves as some sort of "high current charger"- USB deviceClass, or use a slightly different voltage (e.g. 5.5V instead of 5V?) to identify themselves as AC charger?
No, it's the fact the the middle two contacts are bridged. There's several posts about it in http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=670702
fredfox_uk said:
No, it's the fact the the middle two contacts are bridged. There's several posts about it in http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=670702
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Thanks! That sounds really usefull

External Battery charger for TG01??

As per the thread title, I am looking for a battery charger for the TG01. I need one that will simply charge the battery (will need also a spare battery) - and just swap out the batteries as I go. I can't work with an external charger that connects via micro-usb (as I'm having issues with the micro-usb port and can't charge the phone! Therefore need another means of charging ASAP - and will come back and look at how to tackle fixing the micro-usb port at a later stage).
Anyone know where I can get such a thing???
Struggling to do so - so far in my www search....
You mean like this? http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Universal...700?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item3a6e594a7c
"Universal mobile battery charger" is what I looked for.
You can get better one's with digital readouts, but that is EXACTLY what I bought a few days ago to try and save my TG01 from a bad wm6.5. Just waiting for it to turn up.
@Scougar: Yes - I managed to get one in the end - off ebay. Hopefully it will arrive before the week is out - as I'm currently phone less!
Not good! Mine arrived today btw... Annoyingly no instructions on what the LED colours mean on it, or which terminal is positive and which negative.
btw.. mine says 850ma on it, so not the full 1000ma, but I can live with that.
I bought this on eBay - can´t paste the link here - look for - 1500mah Micro USB Back up Battery Charger + Cable for Toshiba TG01 TG 01
I am very satisfied when need to power battery out not having power adaptor. However I have totally 3 batteries and purchased also the solar power adaptor with internal battery.
Scougar said:
Mine arrived today btw... Annoyingly no instructions on what the LED colours mean on it, or which terminal is positive and which negative
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I had the same problem re. instructions - but have got the hang of it. However, it's not a sufficient solution for me. It seems to take an absolute age to power up a battery. I have a spare battery - and even this isn't going to be enough.
I guess it's because of the way I use the phone - with connection to usb keyboard - to write emails...even though I remove the cable the moment the email has been written, it absolutely drains battery resources - RAPID!
I will have to try and get the micro-usb port fixed somehow. I've contacted toshiba to see if - first of all there is any warranty cover on the phone (i bought it off ebay - so not sure if covered or not).
Even if not covered, I'm unsure where to send it - or who can really fix this. Does anyone have any ideas? I am based in Ireland. Do Toshiba have a list of approved service centres??
You will just need to get a higher 'ma' rated charger then (so battery will charge faster).
BTW.. sounds stupid.. but have you tried another micro usb cable (a proper charging cable, rather than just a regular data transfer micro usb one?)
Scougar said:
You will just need to get a higher 'ma' rated charger then (so battery will charge faster).
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Ok, thanks. IF i have no option but to keep using an external charger, may look at gettting another one.
Scougar said:
BTW.. sounds stupid.. but have you tried another micro usb cable (a proper charging cable, rather than just a regular data transfer micro usb one?)
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I have tried a number of cables - that had been working at one stage but no longer work. However, they work when it comes to connecting to my usb keyboard.....just not working to charge the phone...
MICRO-USB Repair.
I'm a bit concerned about this - as someone has suggested to me that this can't be repaired - that it's 'terminal'. Can this really be the case????
Seems an awful waste of a phone if that's true....
borderfox said:
Ok, thanks. IF i have no option but to keep using an external charger, may look at gettting another one.
I have tried a number of cables - that had been working at one stage but no longer work. However, they work when it comes to connecting to my usb keyboard.....just not working to charge the phone...
MICRO-USB Repair.
I'm a bit concerned about this - as someone has suggested to me that this can't be repaired - that it's 'terminal'. Can this really be the case????
Seems an awful waste of a phone if that's true....
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I'm not sure what "burn's out", so I wouldn't like to speculate, but the repair of the actual 'port' surely wouldn't be that hard even for an amateur solderer? Maybe it's something in a charging chip that's burnt out? Given that you can pick tg01's up for £50+ (I really am guessing here.. I've been drinking).. it probaly isn't worth the cost of a repair unless you do it yourself.
Scougar said:
I'm not sure what "burn's out", so I wouldn't like to speculate, but the repair of the actual 'port' surely wouldn't be that hard even for an amateur solderer? Maybe it's something in a charging chip that's burnt out? Given that you can pick tg01's up for £50+ (I really am guessing here.. I've been drinking).. it probaly isn't worth the cost of a repair unless you do it yourself.
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The ruddy thing cost me €200 back then....can't remember for sure when -I think 9 months ago. Just checked ebay and they range from €110-€180. Pretty poor form - if they can't do the job for a couple of years at the very least.
Not sure where I stand as regards warranty - still waiting to hear back from toshiba support.
I don't feel that buying another one is the way to go - if they are flawed in this way. Furthermore, it makes me wonder about investing in a good phone - if they all have a point of weakness in terms of the micro-usb slot. Had a quick look at the nokia lumia at one stage last week....but if I'm using that port heavily (which i am - constantly swapping out between cable (for keyboard) and usb power cable....will the same thing happen?
If you are worried about over working the port, then just get an extension cable or try using a powered USB hub so you won't be swapping it out so often.
The micro usb port design is probably 'weak' compared to the mini USB port design, but it's what we are pretty much every phone on the market is now using. You could also use a USB keyboard.
I would only have considered about £75 for my phone (MODS: I can't sell it , I've bricked it... or as I like to say "I'm between operating systems at the moment" ;-) ) Point is, you can probably get one cheaper than you are seeing on ebay.
I think you are either better off with another phone, or getting a bigger battery, they question is whether you want to invest in the TG01 anymore, or get something else.
Scougar said:
If you are worried about over working the port, then just get an extension cable or try using a powered USB hub so you won't be swapping it out so often.
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How can I use the powered usb hub exactly? I can plug the usb keyboard into it -then run a usb cable between the hub and the usb to micro-usb adaptor that then connects to the phone...is that correct?
Scougar said:
The micro usb port design is probably 'weak' compared to the mini USB port design, but it's what we are pretty much every phone on the market is now using. You could also use a USB keyboard.
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This is what is also dampening down my enthusiasm for investing in another phone. It's a situational thing - and I don't really have any other option but to use a usb keyboard (I can't connect via bluetooth).
Scougar said:
I would only have considered about £75 for my phone (MODS: I can't sell it , I've bricked it... or as I like to say "I'm between operating systems at the moment" ;-) ) Point is, you can probably get one cheaper than you are seeing on ebay.
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That's a savage rate of depreciation!
Scougar said:
I think you are either better off with another phone, or getting a bigger battery, they question is whether you want to invest in the TG01 anymore, or get something else.
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As regards moving on to a new unit, I don't really want to go down this road for two reasons;
1. I don't think I have got my money's worth out of the spend on the TG01 - and while the work arounds are far from ideal - I am otherwise happy with the phone in principal
2. I fear making another big investment - only for the same thing to happen again (given that I will continue to use micro-usb port heavily
A bigger battery - I don't think is a possibility?? I know there was one oversized battery on the market for that phone - but it came with a new back cover for the phone also - as it was thicker than normal. It was expensive - and it's not really the route I wish to take. What I might do - is buy another battery. Then - with 3 batteries on the go - just keep charging them up on rotation at home.
Mickey mouse approach - but I don't see any other feasible way of handling it.
IF I did get another phone, I don't think it would be the TG01. It served its purpose at the time (and It will continue to do so - although more awkward now). However, I don't think this sort of failure should happen - and support should be better. Very hard to get a hold of someone in support - NO support in ROI - and necessary to mail the phone in to their UK service centre. In addition, just discovered that it's out of warranty.
There are some internal pictures of the TG01 floating around, it might be worthwhile trying to dig those up, and see if you can get a look at the USB connection points, and see if an amateur repair is possible.
EDIT: If you go to the following thread you will find internal pictures It looks to me like the port could be repaired if you have a fine enough soldering iron, or taped it up well enough. (As long as the problem isn't a 'trace' being burnt out... and we assume that the port itself has broken/come loose or needs replacement).
Can someone recommend a good quality external charger
Only a couple of weeks - and the external charger I got off ebay seems to be flaking!
Can anyone recommend a GOOD QUALITY external charger that I could order up - that will work well with TG01 batteries??
Have to say... that one I bought isn't the best quality. connection is 'iffy' now it seems.
Product review: 4/10. d'oh.
Scougar said:
Have to say... that one I bought isn't the best quality. connection is 'iffy' now it seems.
Product review: 4/10. d'oh.
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I;ve been trawling the net - but they all seem the ruddy same! What would you buy if you had to go again?
Right now - at this moment - the charger is working again - but I spent half the day trying to get it to work up until now! I don't have great faith in it - and if it goes, I'm sans phone once again.
If I could get a reliable charger, I would be fairly happy. I've got into the routine of charging alternate batteries - so that system works (so I can squeeze the outlay on the phone back out of it - before I go and upgrade at a later stage).
The only other type of external charger I could find was this.
So....i've ordered one up....will post back whether it actually does the job or is another piece of sh1t!
borderfox said:
The only other type of external charger I could find was this.
So....i've ordered one up....will post back whether it actually does the job or is another piece of sh1t!
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I bought this charger a few weeks ago, works perfectly.
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I bought this charger a few weeks ago, works perfectly.
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Delighted to hear that. Hopefully this will provide the ultimate solution for my TG01 - and I can go on and use it for the next 12 months and get my $$ back out of it!
borderfox said:
Delighted to hear that. Hopefully this will provide the ultimate solution for my TG01 - and I can go on and use it for the next 12 months and get my $$ back out of it!
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when I bought the charger the seller sent me this message:
Dear friend:
Do you know how to use the charger?
I'm sorry I don't have technical info in English.
How to use?
1/ without power put the battery in the charger, you can 360 rotation
the charger to fit your battery (no matter your battery is big or
small.)------------------- if the battery put well in the charger, the
light will go on blue.
the charger can Automatic detection of positive "+" and negative "-", so
just connect the "two pin" with "+" "-" of the battery.
2/ with power,(connect it with power)
Charging--------the light is red
Full charge-----the light is blue
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When you receive the charger, if have any problem about "how to use" or
other problem please contact me and I will reply within 24 hours.
Thank you.
the seller was very helpful and sent to Spain was fast, 10 to 14 days.

Display broken -how can I rescue my data?

Hi,
I have my U12+ with dev Options enabled, and last week my display is broken, no chance to made any input with it. Last backup is some moth ago, but I'd made a several week long travel, all pictures are gone, any things I stored on it.
Yes, I know, if I'd made an backup .... But this doesn't help me in this case, afterwards you're everytime smarter....
If there is a chance to copy the data on my Laptop? May sideload TWRP? Is it possible on U12+?
If you have any idea, please help! Also I would pay for it.
When you say the display is broken, does that mean it won't recognize your touch input (per your description), or won't turn on and display anything at all?
Japp, total smashed, just can see some light, but it won't register anything I think -because can't see anything. But light is switched on if I use the Fingerprint sensor at the backside.
:edit: Just zsed a USB-C to HDMI converter -it does not recognize anything.
usb-c adapter to hdmi and usb to connect a mouse
Like this one?
https://www.amazon.de/Adapter-uni-M...ywords=usb-c+hdmi+maus&qid=1596085284&sr=8-10
But how to get further? Because if the Adapter is enabled, and mouse put in, I can't connect the Laptop for transfering the needed data.
edit: bought one from Fitfort with 3 USB Ports, and works fine. Thank you very much for the hint!
Nevertheless I'd repaird it afterwards with new Display and new (unfortunately the blue backcover isn't avaiable anymore, so I have now a black one) Backcover.
Groby said:
Like this one?
https://www.amazon.de/Adapter-uni-M...ywords=usb-c+hdmi+maus&qid=1596085284&sr=8-10
But how to get further? Because if the Adapter is enabled, and mouse put in, I can't connect the Laptop for transfering the needed data.
edit: bought one from Fitfort with 3 USB Ports, and works fine. Thank you very much for the hint!
Nevertheless I'd repaird it afterwards with new Display and new (unfortunately the blue backcover isn't avaiable anymore, so I have now a black one) Backcover.
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Where did you bought the screen? I need to buy one too but can't find an original anywhere
dioggo92 said:
Where did you bought the screen? I need to buy one too but can't find an original anywhere
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I'd bring in it to a local reparation center (free, not from HTC itself), cost were (with original spare parts, and I think they are thrustable, because they also do jobs for German gouverment) 130,- with guarantee. Not to much, and I'd can wait for it.
They told me that it is hard to find original spare parts because of HTCs history.

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