PDAs with good camcorder - 640x480, mov - General Questions and Answers

Hi there,
I was wondering about palmtop with good camcorder, cos I will find it very very useful.
I'm interested in those with res 640x480 preferrably with ability to save video in .mov format
(is it possible to change those settings?).
Additionaly, I'd prefer it to be a pda with WM.
Can you name some? I know, that OMNIA has cam like this, altough it recs only in 3gpp.

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How (or with what program) can I rotate a picture/movie?

I can't find anything that does this on the software that's included with Mio.
Can anyone help me on this one?
ROM R55
The 'Pictures' app included with Windows Mobile PDA/phones should be able to rotate and save pictures - look closely at the buttons on the bottom row when a picture is open.
As for videos, I'm a bit confused! Do you mean you want to temporarily rotate your videos so that you can view them on landscape on your PDA? Then use TCPMP (Google it), a great freeware media player that plays Divx/XviD, WMV, etc etc...
If you mean actually changing say, a 320x240 video to a 240x320 one (permanent rotation), then I dunno!
toomuchdogfur said:
The 'Pictures' app included with Windows Mobile PDA/phones should be able to rotate and save pictures - look closely at the buttons on the bottom row when a picture is open.
As for videos, I'm a bit confused! Do you mean you want to temporarily rotate your videos so that you can view them on landscape on your PDA? Then use TCPMP (Google it), a great freeware media player that plays Divx/XviD, WMV, etc etc...
If you mean actually changing say, a 320x240 video to a 240x320 one (permanent rotation), then I dunno!
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Ah, thank you!
Now I saw it. You will have to View the picture, and then press EDIT. I don't know why this is not available on the thumbnail mode...
Thanks!
About the movie, I've heard about tcpmp, but what I want is to change from 320x240 to 240x320.
Thanks for the info!
Anyone else knows how to accomplish this?
That would take actually re-encoding (I think) which even for a 100MB movie would be a bit too much work for a PPC device.
Such app might exist any way but I don't know any.
Try a desktop app called Virtual Dub. It's free and lets you manipulate just about any format in any way (size, orientation, encoding etc.).
TCPMP can of course rotate to landscape easily.
If you want to reformat the source video itself, as Levenum says, use Virtual Dub and apply a filter to rotate. It doesn't take too long, but is a lossy process because you have to re-encode.
This is definitely not something for the PDA, PC only.
If you're recompressing or reformatting for PDAs, I highly recommend SmartMovie, http://www.lonelycatgames.com/index.php?note=smartmovie&chapter=smartmovie
or Lathe/PocketDivXEncoder
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Humm..
The thing is I can't play 3gp taken by MIO on Nokia phones. I assume that it can be due to "size", but I don't know.
Thanks for all the input!
Well I don't have a clue how MIO's camera apps work, as I only have a HTC Magician, but try and check that your camera is indeed recording apps to standard 3gp - meaning it uses the H.263/H.264 (i forgot which) or MPEG-4 codec.
Also, as far as I know, only the most recent 'N' series of Nokias and some other high-end Nokias use 320x240 resolution screens. For Series40 Nokias (eg. 6230), the screen resolution usually sits at 128x128, with optimal support for 128x96 videos. Series60 (eg. 6600) usually have 176x200 screens, meaning that 176x144 is best for them. If your MIO has any resemblance to my Magician, its camera app should have options for you to take video at these lower resolutions.
As for resizing existing video, yes VirtualDub is the best, but it won't support 3GP (from my experience the MOD version will only do AVIs and MPEG-1 and MPEG-2 reliably). You could try ImTOO MPEG Converter (Google it), which while of dubious coding quality will convert many files to many other files. A free and perhaps better option is SUPER, though be wary as it will spit out some out of sync files on some formats (but theres so bloody many formats supported that it's hard to list them)!
toomuchdogfur said:
Well I don't have a clue how MIO's camera apps work, as I only have a HTC Magician, but try and check that your camera is indeed recording apps to standard 3gp - meaning it uses the H.263/H.264 (i forgot which) or MPEG-4 codec.
Also, as far as I know, only the most recent 'N' series of Nokias and some other high-end Nokias use 320x240 resolution screens. For Series40 Nokias (eg. 6230), the screen resolution usually sits at 128x128, with optimal support for 128x96 videos. Series60 (eg. 6600) usually have 176x200 screens, meaning that 176x144 is best for them. If your MIO has any resemblance to my Magician, its camera app should have options for you to take video at these lower resolutions.
As for resizing existing video, yes VirtualDub is the best, but it won't support 3GP (from my experience the MOD version will only do AVIs and MPEG-1 and MPEG-2 reliably). You could try ImTOO MPEG Converter (Google it), which while of dubious coding quality will convert many files to many other files. A free and perhaps better option is SUPER, though be wary as it will spit out some out of sync files on some formats (but theres so bloody many formats supported that it's hard to list them)!
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That's it. Thank you very much!!
I recorded in H.263_AMR 240x320, and since it was sent to a 6630 it wouldn't play it...
I will record and send in 144x176 and try it!
BTW, why does the quality suck on Mio video capture?
Look at these 2 clips and a bit of a picture.
Sorry bout the long reply, been quite busy recently with work!
Anyway, video capture isnt a particularly strong point with Pocket PCs and phones in general... their processors cant capture full 25fps video at high quality - remember thats like taking 25 photos a second! My Magician wont do nice smooth video even at 176x144, and I daresay that the Mio range fares worse since most of them use the slower Windows Mobile 5. Thats just something that no one seems to be able to fix, unfortunately .
However CoolCamera apparently will work better with the camera than the default camera apps... however I don't think its compatible with the Mio. Even if it does, you'll have to pay for it :roll:. Also note that it can only record to AVI - Motion JPEG codec, so it wont play back on Nokias.
EDIT: Not sure if this is the same case with Mios, but on my Magician, formatting the storage card to FAT16 makes a huge difference to read/write times! Try that to speed up your video to storage card!

QVGA vs. VGA performance

Hello, I was wondering, does anyone know how more is VGA video playback slower against QVGA? I mean this model situation: Same devices, only one has VGA display and second QVGA, and same video file for example 500x400 resolution. How big in % will be performance degradation on VGA device? Due to 4 times more pixels?
that is a good question. I have an Axim x50v (VGA) and using TCMP I have no issues playing divx or xvid videos on it. I still can't play .mkv packages (because I don't have codecs for .h264 and mpeg4 yet). I have never tried it on the Axim x50 (QVGA) that my friend had. He didn't care about anything but the calendar on it!
I guess as long as it plays fine with windowed and full screen without any lags I don't even think about it.
this has also been something ive been wondering for awhile too. anyone have any answers
Let dell x50v out, becous of 2700G video playback can not be faster on any device, so it isnt good to comparing.

Any good Camera Application?

hello guys, i was wondering if there was any good camera application for the Vox??? (something similar to the camera application on the HTC hurricane wm2003se) I feel on the Vox the interface of the built in camera is terrible. I mean the resolution is worked out in Mega Pixels, e.g if you want a 2MP snap the resolution must be set to max which means no more further zooming.
Therefore is there any good camera application which will keep the snap at 2MP standard and giving some good zoom option with it?? Please recommend or please post a good application if possible thanks.
How would a digital zoom work, other than making it bigger by reducing the resolution?
oh i'm not sure about that, all i know is, on my previous htc hurricane which was on wm2003se, the camera was awesome, no matter how big the resolution was, the mega pixels reamained the same. All im asking for is suggestion of a good camera application!
What the poor guy was suggesting is that it will not help you with any camera application to get better quality image. It will be like taking your picture in say, VGA and then using irfanview or something like that to just resize the image. And moreover different phones have different camera. My Gene's Camera can give SE K790i a run for its money. But trust me Digital Zoom is a hoax!
I guess no body knows about any camera here. May be you can google and let us know if you find one.

What is the Best Video Resolution..???

Well I am converting my fav know movies & puttin them in my SD card I wanna whats the best video resolution I can use to get the best video output as well as save some space on my SD card..!!!
PS : - Can you also suggest me the codec, I mean the video type..!!!
Thank you..!!!
Well screen resolution is 800x480, so that's gonna be the resolution you want. Format wise, use mp4 since that will play in the stock htc player and will therefore use the hardware acceleration.
Also, please use search as this has been answered. There's even tools that developers have made that will auto convert everything for you. Again, please search before starting a thread.
The ANS is here..!!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=628092&highlight=Video+format&page=1
LoLz I found it myself, thanks anyways my Q is answered..!!!
i convert my vids to mp4 with 400x240 res.
this is the quarter of hd2's wvga res, so it fits with 4 pixels on display and wont be stretched.
800x480 is too high, i need my storage
so for me, 400x240 is perfect. a 1,30h long vid needs about 320mb storage.
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[Q] HTC HD2 camcorder issue

Hey,
used bsb tweak to upgrade the camera to 5mp, and since the video camera has been limited to;
resolution - s(128x96)
capture format - h.263 or mpeg4
this obviously makes the video unwatchable
i have installed a registry editor, but can't see an obvious fixes, could someone please post the original set-up in registry so I don't have to hard reset (HTC's solution)
Thanks

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