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Its that new phone time again. Recommendations for Orbit/Armatis replacement?

I've been buying HTC devices every year since the very first XDA came out. Normally its a simple affair, just ring up O2 and order the next model out but there's so many to choose from now and this year I'm just spoiled for choice.
I'm currently using an Orbit which I really love, it has just about everything I need. About the only improvements I would make is 3G, VGA, more memory, faster processor. So whats available? There seem so many to choose from these days.
I know the iphone is a pile of crap but you must admit it looks good. Don't HTC do a similar style i.e. all screen and fewer buttons?

Anyone got any opinions?
Top of the pops at the moment is the Athena but I think it may be too big for my pocket. Is there anything with a similar spec only smaller yet?

How about Orbit II ?
Has everything you want, except VGA display...
400Mhz CPU, 128MB RAM, UMTS/HSDPA, 3MP camera....
Olioaglio

Yep the Orbit 2 will be my next phone.
The iPhone is very very tempting, and regardless of what hardcore WM fans say, its a very fast, fluid interface and is generally what the public want to see from a touch phone, as proved by its massive sales figures,
Buuuuuuuut the orbit 2 has built in GPS, decent 400mhz proccessor, 3G, flush screen, 3MP auto focusing camera, with video, a second smaller camera on the front for video calls, loads of ram. Go for the Orbit 2 for the time been, get the iphone version 2 in a few years as its probly gunna take over the world lol.

I assume we're talking about the Polaris or Touch Cruise?
Didn't realize it was also referred to as the Orbit 2. Does that mean it will be released by O2 in the UK? Any idea when? (I know the Cruise has been put back to mid Jan)
Anyway I've decided to get a second hand Athena for now (no new contract). I've always wanted VGA and TV out. If I can't get on with the size then I'll get the Orbit2 or Cruise when it arrives.

Yeah its the o2's version of the polaris is called the Orbit 2.
http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2007/11/09/o2_xda_orbit_2/ for some screenshots and info. Alot of sites are saying its going to get released 1st quarter of 2008, many are saying January.

Is money is no object there is always this phone.
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicat...224-1010&CMP=EMC-TIGEREMAIL&SRCCODE=WEM1526BY

What's after Artemis/P3300
Hello, I had the same dilemma, I have this phone for a whole year, I never had a phone for so long, but there is nothing really better out there to replace it with.
I thing the best thing if you don't need keyboard is the Cruise, and I guess I'll have to wait for it.
I think it's a good choice because it has all what this phone has plus 3G and flush screen.
The fact that it does not have VGA does not bother me, because VGA at this tiny screen does look better, but you can't really use it in the VGA resolution it's just too small for the eyes. All the other VGA phones just emulate a 320x240 screen, so it looks much nicer, but not more than that.
I tried a whole bunch of phones, I had the iPhone for almost a month, and it is really great, it is fast, smooth, beautiful and great at what it does, but it does not do much, if you are used to use a lot of the functions of the pocket pc you realize that the iphone almost worthless.
I also had the E-Ten x800 lately, I used it for about an hour and got rid of it, it is painfully slow, I couldn't get it to play a movie normally, it does not make sense, it has 520mhz cpu and it is still extremely slow, also I didin't like the way it looks at all. The VGA screen is good but there is no major difference, and I didin't try 3G in it.
I also have the Gigabyte Gsmart i350 right now, it's nice and small, very fast and has VGA screen, it also has GPS, I really like it but the lack of 3G is a real setback, it does not even have edge, only GPRS wich makes it really slow internet browsing.
One more important thing is the company that makes the phones, there is no such good quality as HTC, the build, the feel, and quality of calls, it beats every onther company out there.
Also this site makes me get only HTC phones, there is no such a site with so much support and options for your phone, with so many great people working and helping each other!!!!!
The bottom line is that the Cruise seems to be the best combination of all the features that are out there, VGA would make it a killer of a phone, but after playing with some VGA phones I don't think it makes such a big difference, also a lot of the apps out there don't support VGA screen, I think in a couple of months there will be a much better support for it.
I hope that my little thoughts and mini reviews will help you with your decision.

The Kaiser is great, but if I could do it again or had the bux to spare, I'd go with a Polaris.
I hardly ever use the Kaiser keyboard and the fm radio on the Polaris sounds like an interesting addition. Other than that, the feature sets (between Kaiser & Polaris) are identical.
See pdadb for comparison info.

Anything Comparable to the iPhone Coming Out On the WM Side?

I am looking to replace my Trinity and right now the iPhone is the top contender (I am with AT&T anyway.)
But I'd love to keep the flexibility I get from WM, and have finally made my Trinity rock solid (it hasn't crashed in weeks
The big thing for me is the screen, I like 3.5 and I like the resolution - the Omnia just doesn't look as good to me, plus its screen is smaller.
Is HTC, or someone else, coming out with something new, soon, which will have the screen, the memory (16gb is good) and is also a decent looking phone?
Anyone know?

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Uh wtf?
Anyways. Back on topic. WAIT FOR THE AT&T TOUCH PRO. Nuff said.

Silly wabbit! iPhones are for kids.... Any anyone else without enough brain matter to operate a WM device.
If there is too much time on your contract to bail, I'd say wait for the Touch!

Unfortunately, the Touch Pro only has a 2.8" screen, which is a big disadvantage, compared to the 3.5" screen on the iPhone.
I am looking for at least 3.5".
(and since I had my Wizard, I've decided that slider keyboards are useless to me.)

For a screen that size you will need something like a Sedna.
I personally just got the I900. I had an IPhone for a month and I definitely prefer the Omnia I900. However it only has a 3.2" screen and you want 3.5".
I would have gotten a Sedna as I wanted a bigger screen, but at the last minute I got an Omnia and I am really happy with it.
The Touch Pro looks nice, that would probably be my second choice. The omnia has the best on screen keyboard I have seen so far. It not particularly special in any way other than the fact that it works well in Portrait and in landscape with the autmatic rotate function I can rapidly get precise, fast two thumb typing going by just rotating the phone (assuming I have two hands free.)

I have iTouch and have to say that I love it`s touch-screen accuracy, much better than in wm-phones with 2.8" screen, it is just so tiny compared to 3.5" screen.. I usualy do wlan with wmwifirouter and browse net using iTouch since it has bigger resolution and 3.5" screen which doesn`t need stylus + Safari is fast !
One thing what I don`t understand is this 2.8" Wmphonemania, why are they not making 3.5" screens on them ? And 3.2mp cameras are oldish, I love N95 5mp camera, it just takes so good shots, I am jealous :>
But either Symbian or iPhone`s OS, cannot beat WinMo as an operating system :X

MacGuy2006 said:
Unfortunately, the Touch Pro only has a 2.8" screen, which is a big disadvantage, compared to the 3.5" screen on the iPhone.
I am looking for at least 3.5".
(and since I had my Wizard, I've decided that slider keyboards are useless to me.)
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like for sex size doen't matter... the real problem is: what will be your use of your next phone...
i have tried both one week (iPhone3g and diamond) and i goes diamond because iPhone is too much limited for my use... try both and see what will be your's

How about the Dream?
I am amazed that noone mentioned the HTC Dream. The first Android phone to hit the market will be released on October 13th. Check it out.

Anything Comparable to the iPhone Coming Out On the WM Side? (Quote)
Just surf this forum and you will find a lot of nice options:
HTC G1
HTC HD
etc...

This was exactly the question I was working on for a number of months. Although I also added in, "And won't cost me an arm and a leg".
It finally came down to the Daxian T32/x999+ (Chinese iPhone-ish clone) and the HTC Blue Angel. If the T32 had some buttons that could be used in gaming like the HTC I would've gone with that I think, but I got the HTC Blue Angel instead and it's great.
Of course this is my first PDA, so maybe I'm easily impressed.
Anything else out there either costs WAY too much or has a much smaller screen, or even both. It's too bad nobody is taking the Blue Angel and reworking it with today's technology to make it sleeker and better. Great little machine so far!

http://gizmodo.com/5047830/htc-touch-hd-looks-big-and-beautiful
How about this?
I think it's called HTC Touch HD. Don't know if HD stands for High Definition.
Anyway, this phone for sure has your requirement of 3.5 screen.

HTC Touch HD

You guys might want to check this out:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=425104

Syphon Filter said:
You guys might want to check this out:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=425104
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Thanks for posting the link here. You just beat me to it
I was soo gonna buy the Touch Pro...but now I might have different plans..

This is just a desperate measure to be like the X1. From the pictures it looks a lot bigger than Diamond, which it might replace. I don't think it will have a keyboard either.

So it's got the same internals (except slight less internal storage according to the screenie), just a bigger screen (with bigger res) and no keyboard? I'll stick with my pocket friendly touch pro thanks, unless the dpi has been bumped up considerably and the screen is glass, I got a feeling that thing will look terrible to look at

Xmas present ?
Hmmm, looks like I might be using the Touch Pro for only a few months !
Sounds like an excellent device.
Somehow I doubt this will be in my Christmas stocking - probably more like inside an Easter egg.
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WHAT??? no fair...
i would prefer that if it had a keyboard...
The only letdown for me is the small screen on the TP

It is the size of an iphone, in case anyone was wondering.
Impressive screen though, does blow away the iphone screen.

briggs81 said:
It is the size of an iphone, in case anyone was wondering.
Impressive screen though, does blow away the iphone screen.
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if it had a keyboard it would be awesome
but now im worried a new touch pro will be out in a few months already. jeez damn technology

Yeah, I must admit I am feeling a bit cheated. But this is a fairly large device.
I like my Touch Pro a lot, but the screen on this would be ace, its twice the resolution of an iPhone.
Not sure what I will do, my missus did have her eye on my Touch Pro, maybe I can palm it off on her, get her a Compact or Vario IV on upgrade, flog that and get myself one of these?!
Decisions, decisions.

If this thing is available any time soon, I may hold off on the TP.. The Screen is incredible! 400x800?! Estimates put it at no less than 3.5" possibly 3.8"

l3it3r said:
If this thing is available any time soon, I may hold off on the TP.. The Screen is incredible! 400x800?! Estimates put it at no less than 3.5" possibly 3.8"
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This link suggests 4" http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=1469. But no keyboard for me is a loser (just moved from the Diamond for that reason!) But then again - that screen......... Just like having an athena again, but which fits in the pocket!!!!

Holy Smokes! This HD has very impressive spec's! I don't use my keyboard now and I use the internet a lot. So this would be perfect for me if I can wait till December I'm now not going to pursue the Pro...

I'm very tempted to continue to wait for the HD.. but by then, knowing HTC, they'll have photos of the Touch 3 HD Mk II w/Coffee machine and A big block Chevy V8.

Here's a fast video review:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eisadEADpwk

Abandon Raphael for HD

I have been reading several topics on the forthcoming HD and it seems that most of us are very excited and anxious about the HD. Was wondering how many of us would actually dump the TP for the new HD...!!!

I personally don't see the point. The HD is basically a bigger diamond with Pro specs.
I seem to be one of the few who still prefer phones that actually fit in a pocket.
Now a Diamond with Pro specs (RAM, card slot, video out, etc) only missing the keyboard but thinner would be something to think about.

I'm very tempted to go for the Touch HD when (if!) it eventually gets released on T-Mob UK.
Fed up of waiting for them to get the Pro out of the door, plus now I'm running TF2D on my Hermes with the Diamond keyboard I'm not so sure I need a hw keyboard, especially with the bigger screen of the HD typing should be a breeze.
It's not so big as to not fit in a pocket, same size as an iPhone pretty much and noone complains about the size of that (not even Apple haters like me!). It'll be like going back to my old Blueangel! I think the thickness of the Pro makes it less pocketable than a bigger but thinner phone like the HD.

the reason i didnt get a diamond or iphone is because theres no keyboard... so no, im still on the raphael ship

Please note that the HD has no directional button. This will make it useless for games. Even with Diamond and Touch Pro, the limitation of buttons available make it difficult running games. Further more, I'm missing the camera and record button. It is quite troublesome using the TouchFlo 3D to get to the camera.

programatix said:
Please note that the HD has no directional button. This will make it useless for games. Even with Diamond and Touch Pro, the limitation of buttons available make it difficult running games. Further more, I'm missing the camera and record button. It is quite troublesome using the TouchFlo 3D to get to the camera.
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directional buttons? make use of the accelerometer! i really wish WM has games like iphone

Hmm i'm thinking the same, i currently own a Pro but i'm thinking of selling it and get a HD later. But i'm not sure atm.

I don't know if i'm convinced about the iPhone/HD big, wide & flat format.
Plus the fact that I always have the impression that the larger the screen the more susceptible to damage that screen is. I would be scared witless to put something like a HD in my pocket!!
I really would have to play with one in a store and see how good the onscreen keyboard was before I could make an informed choice.
So far my TP is doing everything I need and is a big improvement over my old Artemis that served me well for 2 years. Would changing from a TP to a HD be an improvement??? Seeing the specs are similar what "improvement" would I be getting??? If the answer is only a "nice big screen" then why would I bother bearing in mind it would probably cost a couple of hundred pounds to 'upgrade'???

Never: it's way to big, it has no keyboard and no flash(light).

Well... talkin about the flash, I dont really think that the flash on touch pro is of any use either...

I just saw someone walking by that just might be prittier than my current girlfriend....

Because I'm spoiled (and Christmas is almost here), I'm going to get the HD and keep the TP. This way, I can alternate depending on which type of mood I'm in. Just like swapping my watches.
Geez...I love my wife!

programatix said:
Please note that the HD has no directional button. This will make it useless for games. Even with Diamond and Touch Pro, the limitation of buttons available make it difficult running games. Further more, I'm missing the camera and record button. It is quite troublesome using the TouchFlo 3D to get to the camera.
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That means the iPhone is useless for games? I've even seen NES emulators on iPhones... Come on now.

Axel2k5 said:
I don't know if i'm convinced about the iPhone/HD big, wide & flat format.
Plus the fact that I always have the impression that the larger the screen the more susceptible to damage that screen is. I would be scared witless to put something like a HD in my pocket!!
I really would have to play with one in a store and see how good the onscreen keyboard was before I could make an informed choice.
So far my TP is doing everything I need and is a big improvement over my old Artemis that served me well for 2 years. Would changing from a TP to a HD be an improvement??? Seeing the specs are similar what "improvement" would I be getting??? If the answer is only a "nice big screen" then why would I bother bearing in mind it would probably cost a couple of hundred pounds to 'upgrade'???
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5MP camera, 3.5mm headphone jack for starters.

The 5mp camera is not really a major thing to be to be honest, cause mobile cameras could never come even close to the quality of the actual point & shoot cameras, hence ppl who takes snaps with their phones can very well get away wit the 3.2mp for random moments capturing. But yes the audio jack is definately a good improvement on the HD, I always prefer to have a conventional audio connector...

akash_nu said:
The 5mp camera is not really a major thing to be to be honest, cause mobile cameras could never come even close to the quality of the actual point & shoot cameras, hence ppl who takes snaps with their phones can very well get away wit the 3.2mp for random moments capturing...
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I totally agree the camera is just a gimmick really. If you want good quality pics to keep you'll take them with a conventional digital camera with an optical zoom. Phone cameras are only good for MMS messages and snapshots to be disposed of at a later date IMHO.
As for the audio connector... why spend 200 quid to update the phone when you can get a HTC mini USB to 3.5" audio adapter on-line for £5???? Doesn't make sense to me unless you have money to burn!

I thought about it too, but my main concern is battery life. Its not great on my TP, with that screen it will be terrible on the HD. I doubt you'll get through watching a full movie!

"That means the iPhone is useless for games? I've even seen NES emulators on iPhones... Come on now."
maybe he mean useless for all those current wm games where many require more hardware buttons then any htc phones got to control various functions like tombraider don't know of any htc phone which had enough buttons for that

I wouldn't replace my TP with HD because I think it's great having a keyboard on your phone for messaging, email, even writing blogs or modifying web pages when I'm not home.

marcel808 said:
I thought about it too, but my main concern is battery life. Its not great on my TP, with that screen it will be terrible on the HD. I doubt you'll get through watching a full movie!
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Are you still running the stock ROM? Wouldnt hurt to explore a cooked flavour before you abandon it

Why buy the Diamond 2? (HTC Touch HD VS Diamond 2)

Recently i've been noticing a huge fuss about the HTC Diamond 2.. I mean have you people seen the Specs? Why would anyone buy this phone over the Touch HD?
The HD features says it all!! :
- HD has a bigger screen
- 3.5mm headphone jack
- more battery life (1350mAh)
- Slimmer
- Already has Diamond 2's interface updates.
Diamond 2:
- Zooming Bar? The phone would be smaller without it, or maybe increase the screen size instead.. This bar is useless!! Maybe great for Arkanoid (The Game)? ;-)
- Battery Cover isn't shaped like a diamond anymore, and there goes the name..
- No camera flash.. AGAIN!!
- No Headphone jack
- Battery is 1100mAh
- Should've came out in December or with the HD in November.
- Not a competitor with the head to head clash of phones this year.
The first Diamond was way ahead of all devices last year, It was phone of the year 2008!!.. :'(
Let me know what you guys think..

Thats true, and the reason why Im gonna keep my Omnia. But the Firestone and Thor seem to be the only phones with real updates. Cant wait till they come out.
About the specs, what is it with HTC ? Why does the video recording suck sooo much ? Hope they give recording at 720p on the Firestone or Thor (Omnia HD anyone ?). Otherwise I might have to go Symbian and I hate Symbian.

The price my freind... The price

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The price my freind... The price
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HD's Price is dropping down now..

These are the prices where I live:
Touch HD: € 589,-
Touch Diamond2: € 457,-
That's allmost 30% more.. for only a little more screen and a little bigger battery (what is indeed something I dont like much, but it's allready a better battery then the Diamond)
My choice is made i go for the Diamond2

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These are the prices where I live:
Touch HD: € 589,-
Touch Diamond2: € 457,-
That's allmost 30% more.. for only a little more screen and a little bigger battery (what is indeed something I dont like much, but it's allready a better battery then the Diamond)
My choice is made i go for the Diamond2
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The price tag for the diamond was € 280 before it was released.. it was then sold for € 420 - 460.
Before the HD was out it was priced € 480, and now like my friend FRD666 is saying its 589..
The point is its too early to know, and based by the price tags from previous HTC releases, Diamond 2's price will be more than what it is shown around.. And until it is out, how much would the HD be then?

Well if you're in the US like me, the HD will not work on AT&T's 3G network, which can be quite an inconvenience for people like me who are ALWAYS getting email, downloading huge files, watching online videos and just surfing the net. However, unless I am mistaken, the Diamond2 will be officially released in the US, which means AT&T's 3G network would be supported, which is a good thing. Although other than that, I understand what you're getting at.
Dave

Indeed, HTC just cased the HD in a new shiny box and started selling a new phone.

I hope to get my "diamond 2" in the next day or so...
But I can only see points in this thread that...well seem to miss the point!
OK...Battery:
Sure the HD has a bigger battery capacity but then again it has a bigger screen so the extra capacity in it is probably just to handle the screen requirements!
The backlight in a large LCD like that along with the extra touch sensors, display area, etc would warrant easily for that extra bit of battery life.
You put a 1100 in a HD and it won't last long - ok.... But a 1100 in a Diamond2 is probably letting it last just as long as the HD does with a 1350 as it uses less power!
We cannot tell until someone can test the Diamond2 in the SAME way as the HD...and I mean down the firmware, apps ...heck even the same touch points!
I can probably do this for you once I get my diamond2 as I do repairs on these units and will have access to the diamond2, HD and other units.
Onto point 2...Bigger screen.
For me...I want something portable...sure the iPhone and HD screen is lovely to look at....but for ME, the novelty wore off there. I put it in my pocket and I feel I need an extra belt just to hold my trousers up. The Diamond2 should be pocketable even in a shirt pocket as was the Diamond1... I can't do that with a HD.
For me... I want a phone that still feels like a phone and the diamond1 did it for me for almost a year (I've never kept a phone that long!)
The Diamond2 should still do this for me.
3.5mm jack... I've never needed this to be honest.
I have never found the need of using my HTC devices as a music device. At work, I have a headphone port in the laptop/desktop.
In the car, I have a 16GB USB stick with music plugged into the car.
At the gym, I would never take my phone out of its case in risk of it falling/loosing it and use a Sony MP3 player.
Slimmer: Not by much (if at all!) and is easily comparable for the height which then brings me back to the bigger screen...with the diamond2, I potentially should still be able to hold it nicely and snugly in my hand - like a phone... when I hold the HD, I don't feel comfortable with it - not over a long period of time and my calls can run into the hours!
Zoom bar - don't dis it until you use it... It might be a waste of space - to be honest, I think it looks ugly but it might prove to be very useful. I liked the zoom on the Diamond1 by turning your finger on the circle but found it to be eratic when it was loading pages...maybe this is the solution - who knows.
Battery Cover: You can't live with it, you can't live without it - it seems! There were hundreds of critics complaining about the back cover on the Diamond1 on how bad it was, couldnt lay it flat, g-sensor would not be correct etc etc etc and now you're complaining ? :- )
In all fairness to HTC... the code name is Topaz, I think the media just decided to call it the Diamond2 as it is closer to the Diamond2 in size etc
My only annoyance potentially is with the iPhone which is releasing its new OS etc... could this suddenly bring the Diamond2 even on a 6.5 firmware back in the dark ages?
These are my personal opinions but I feel the arguement between the two units is not that valid and is more like comparing a Lambo with a Aston Martin DB9 rather than a Ferrari with a Lambo
All 3 are sport cars but the DB9 and Lambo are very different cars

I like the advantages the diamond 2 has for the US users, at least that's a change..
I appreciate your opinion akash_84, I'm used to small slim phones, and my last one was the first Diamond.. But now having the HD around, i realized its a new experience.. Suddenly i like using internet surfing allot, writing notes, ms Office, watching movies and playing games.. Diamond 2's screen will be very good too, and the battery capacity is for the screen functionality like you say, it makes sense to me now..
First i thought of the HD as a big phone which would bother me having it in my pocket like you say.. But i was amazed of how comfortable it is.. To me i didn't notice any difference when i check if my phone is in my pocket or not between the diamond and the HD, I remember feeling the diamond shape edges battery cover in my pocket to check if it's there..
Even though they changed the battery cover shape, it's named Topaz as some kind of diamond shaped rock, so why make it normal now?.. I liked the touch pro cover, material was great..
Can Diamond 2 compete this year like the first did last year? HTC will release much better phones later..
This year will be the only year that i buy an HTC device by the end of the year..

Good point actually... Topaz is actually another type of stone which only just struck me!
However, looking at the pictures, the flat surfaces followed by curved edges almost imitates the "diamond2"
well tomorrow is the release date for it so lets see what happens!

akash_84 said:
Good point actually... Topaz is actually another type of stone which only just struck me!
However, looking at the pictures, the flat surfaces followed by curved edges almost imitates the "diamond2"
well tomorrow is the release date for it so lets see what happens!
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I hope its cheap.. It'll change allot of my doubts and other HTC users..

apparently you've got the HD, because i have the Diamond 2 and i love it!
Its much better then the HD ( wich is to big!!! ) Smartphones are supposed to be smaller.
Video recording is much better with the Diamond 2 in comparison with the Diamond

Who? I have a Diamond2 ... first one to get it on here I think...or maybe second because I missed the morning delivery
Loving the diamond apart from a badly applied screen protector so just waiting for my Brando one

TheTroubleMaker said:
apparently you've got the HD, because i have the Diamond 2 and i love it!
Its much better then the HD ( wich is to big!!! ) Smartphones are supposed to be smaller.
Video recording is much better with the Diamond 2 in comparison with the Diamond
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Could you upload a video sample ? Sounds too good to be true.

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Could you upload a video sample ? Sounds too good to be true.
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i will do it tonight.. the video resolution is 640 x 480 according to HTC

If you want an example video, Pocketnow.com (my favorite WM news site with videos, news, reviews, etc.) posted this example video online.
Just download it, and if you get a security warning like I did, it's nothing. The site is extremely trustworthy, and I scanned it a bunch and it came back clean, and played fine. The full Diamond review is here, and apparently he likes is a lot.
It also seems to get better benchmarks in performance than the Touch HD. You can also check out the Pocketnow youtube channel, which now has a couple of Diamond2 videos. I'm holding out for the Pro2, but this device is really nice looking.
Dave

Finally VGA (640x480) video ! Tough other manufactures are going for D1 (720x480) and 720p (1280x720), but still nice improvment.

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- HD has a bigger screen
- more battery life (1350mAh)
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- Battery is 1100mAh
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The screen takes up a huge fraction of the power, so I wouldn't be surprised to see that the Diamond has better battery life even with a smaller capacity battery because it also has a smaller screen.

I'm using the Diamond 2 ROM on the touch HD, The camera too (No VGA capture though)..
Guys, I just need to know:
- How many free ram and rom are use and free in the memory on the diamond 2?
- And regarding the benchmarks, has anyone played Divx (.avi) files yet?
I use Coreplayer 1.3 and it plays Divx smoothly on the Touch HD..
- How loud is the speaker phone on real ringtones?
- Is it easy and finger-accurate when using the Full QWERTY Keyboard?
Well it turns out i was wrong and this was the first that an HTC phone came out cheaper than expected... ;-)
Please share any interesting experience you find so far with the device..
Thank you all..
Regards....