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Hey everyone,
If I have Opera open on my HTC Touch Pro with the hardware keyboard slid out, it still shows the onscreen keyboard (and it's annoying having to keep closing it all the time). Any idea how to fix this?
I too would like to know the solution for this. I have a feeling that this is kind of a feature from Opera and can't be disabled but it's very annoying for users with hardware keyboard.
I have this issue on my kaiser too
Daniel1515 said:
Hey everyone,
If I have Opera open on my HTC Touch Pro with the hardware keyboard slid out, it still shows the onscreen keyboard (and it's annoying having to keep closing it all the time). Any idea how to fix this?
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HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\Sip>:
Create or change DWORD TurnOffAutoDeploy from 0 to 1
Restart your device!
its a bug with opera...
Brendo said:
its a bug with opera...
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Actually, it's not Opera. It's Raphael itself. HTC should have made it in such a way that if the keyboard is out, the SIP should not be displayed.
To prove that it is not Opera, try creating a new SMS. Do this in portrait mode first. Try hiding the SIP and change field (To or Message). You'll see that the SIP is displayed every time you change field. Now slide out the keyboard. Try changing field and you'll see that the SIP is also displayed.
As far as I understand (from another post somwhere on the forum) it's not technically a bug...
It's a requirement of Windows mobile that the SIP is deployed whenever text is entered into a field. Seems rather daft when you have a hardware keyboard on your phone though...
I've had that registry tweak above work for me, the same tweak is implemented in Advanced Config 3.3 as well. There's another fix that *should* work throughout Windows Mobile, for text fields.
It's called nullkb, and installs an option into the SIP menu that gives you a null keyboard option, and any attempt to bring up the SIP brings up nothing. I installed it, and it appeared to work, but after a reset, it defaulted back to the normal keybaord, so you have to select the null keyboard everytime you reset the device.
I'd love to find a way to simply disable auto deployment of the SIP in ALL circumstances. NullKB forces you to go into the SIP menu and select another keyboard should you want to use symbols, for example. The registry fix only seems to (sometimes) work for opera.
I just want the SIP to stay hidden until I want it, and a single click on the keyboard icon should bring the selected keyboard up.
I have no idea how to go around getting this working, I'm more of an end user than a developer...
e: there's also this reg key HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\Sip\AllowChange=1
Change that to 0 and it disables the SIP entirely. I'm thinking this fix and judicious use of PQzII (once I figure out how the hell to set it up...) to set up hardware keys for lots of symbols (where the hell is "\" on the keyboard? On a WM phone I would've thought a \ key would be mandatory...) might be the way forward, though it's a fair amount of work to get everything set up.
branko.savic said:
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\Sip>:
Create or change DWORD TurnOffAutoDeploy from 0 to 1
Restart your device!
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That doesn't work, at least not on my CDMA Touch Pro.
SquidgyB said:
e: there's also this reg key HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\Sip\AllowChange=1
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Doesn't work on my CDMA Touch Pro That regedit makes the keyboard appear on screen all the time, with no way to minimize it.
it is a bug in opera...
it is well documented as one
you can see if you disable autodeploy of keybaord (use advanced config) and youll see it still appears in opera. the only work around is to download nullkb and select it as your input while using opera
I had the problem with nullkb that it wouldn't stay as the default SIP after a soft reset. Loading PQzII and setting a link to PQzII in the startup folder fixed this, as within PQzII you can select which SIP should be displayed in portrait *and* landscape individually.
This still means a couple of clicks to get a keyboard up in landscape for entering symbols, but if in portrait the SIP will display normally.
I still can't get the "\" to work properly through PQzII though... it displays odd characters whenever I enter it into any of the PQzII configuration options. I suspect \ is used extensively in the code or something, and this messes up what's going on inside PQzII.
Hey fellow XDA-ers.
I hope that in this thread we can unite in finding a solution for the annoying t9 input mehod, without breaking the hardware keyboard.
What's the problem:
I want to get rid of the annoying black t9 input and autocomplete bar, and use the standard WM6.1 version.
What anoys me the most is when you type an address for sending text, you start by typing first name of for instance friends who share a first name, but have different last names, , as soon as you hit space for the lastname, the person with the first name that's on top of the list gets selected..ARG
I also hate the lag it introduces.
So getting rid of the black ezinput part of the keyboard.
This can be done by replacing the eT9 values in your registry at the layout to COMP (et9IME replace by compIME and so on) and this works for soft keyboard.
However, this "fix" breaks some stuff in your hardware keyboard (the SYM key for instance stops working, also you cannot get the euro sign or the pund sign by pressing fn E or fn W)
I of course want the best of both worlds, and especially miss the sym button for getting a "\" whilst typing in shortcuts
So, I have tried so much, but haven't found a solution yet.
Does anybody know how to get this "best of both worlds" option?
Does opening up the on-screen keyboard and hitting the T9 --> ABC switch help?
nope
It doesn't use autocomplete then when typing text, but you still get the black bar at the bottom whilst entering an address, and the space-issue (filling in word after space) is introduced.
I just want the behaviour as when eT9 replaced by comp (ei. you get a couple of suggestion in your screen in light grey boxes, in stead of on bottom bar in black) but with FULL use of my hardware keyboard.
I want to do this without installing all kinds of secondary software that slows my device down, but want to solve it at the root.
Hope I am explaining the problem clearly
But thanks for the reply..
Maybe we can figure it out..
known problem
I've done the t9 compIME registry change and to me, is a must. That black bar was SO annoying and decreased effectiveness.
I have noticed the hardware keyboard does get screwy after doing this.
Using Da_G's roms, he has solved most of the problems in some of his earlier roms. I think the only problem I have currently is a non-working "cent" sign (FN+_). I'll test this again after I flash to his latest Rom.
I think he solves this by implementing SOME of the t9 files. I'll follow up with more accurate results.
player911 said:
I've done the t9 compIME registry change and to me, is a must. That black bar was SO annoying and decreased effectiveness.
I have noticed the hardware keyboard does get screwy after doing this.
Using Da_G's roms, he has solved most of the problems in some of his earlier roms. I think the only problem I have currently is a non-working "cent" sign (FN+_). I'll test this again after I flash to his latest Rom.
I think he solves this by implementing SOME of the t9 files. I'll follow up with more accurate results.
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If that's the case, making a cab, or posting the necesary files to replace would be ideal.
Does your SYM key work?
sounds like a very good start
I had this same annoying error
I managed to get it to go away by
sliding out the keyboard
whilst pressing the green FN button hit the spacebar.
This brings up a small menu, select
ABC and bingo, its sorted.
Steveb
akky66 said:
I had this same annoying error
I managed to get it to go away by
sliding out the keyboard
whilst pressing the green FN button hit the spacebar.
This brings up a small menu, select
ABC and bingo, its sorted.
Steveb
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Tnx for your input Steve.
I allready have that set up, but as you will find, it does not get rid of the black bar during txt msgs to field input, if you know what I mean.
It also gives lag on the hardware keyboard input comapred to the comp ide input method, which I find anoying.
What I really want is just the old wm input and auto complete feature without breaking my keyboard.
but as said before, thanks for the input.
This way we can narrow it down and hopefully make the problem easier to understand.
Ta...
tried editing sym files
Tried editing and replacing the txt files in windows directory,
eT9.Raphael.0409.kmap.txt and eT9DeadKeys.txt and renamint the et9 to comp, no luck.
Anybody any suggestions?
akky66 said:
I had this same annoying error
I managed to get it to go away by
sliding out the keyboard
whilst pressing the green FN button hit the spacebar.
This brings up a small menu, select
ABC and bingo, its sorted.
Steveb
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I did that and the black bar is gone! No more annoying auto-capitalizing and duplicated words! Thanks a lot!
Not quite
Smaniac said:
I did that and the black bar is gone! No more annoying auto-capitalizing and duplicated words! Thanks a lot!
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It get's rid of the black bar whilst typing a text, however whilst typing an adress in the to field, you will notice that you still get a black bar and proposed name in the bottom of your screen.
This is actually eT9 still running, and slowing down your input, trust me on this
The "old" way, you'd get the proposed names next to your to field, in a light grey box, and you could scroll through them and use the space bar without getting it to autocomplete.
I normally type the first few letters of the persons name, and then use the left and right arrow keys to gp through the matching contacts. That does the trick for me
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GaZ said:
I normally type the first few letters of the persons name, and then use the left and right arrow keys to gp through the matching contacts. That does the trick for me
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It does the trick and it is how I use it now.
It's just not the solution I am looking for.
I'm a bit wierd in that way, if I see it poping up, I know it's there and it just annoys me...
Don't you just love the way things were before
But thanks for the tip.
No luck here yet
I haven't had any luck yet, anybody else?
This issue is really starting to bug me
Any luck yet with removing the T9 Black bar? I am having this problem as well.
Me too!
i want the old way with the little grey box, it was so much better. It gave a number of people when you typed in a user name for sms and it also gave better autocomplete options.
Solve for all us
Try attached CAB guys from our famous Russian PDA professional. It's remove this bar completely.
yes it worked for me on Touch HD perfectly
Works
Igoran said:
Try attached CAB guys from our famous Russian PDA professional. It's remove this bar completely.
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TY it completely rocks on Touch HD.
Does this just disable T9 on the hardware keyboard? AND, when entering a contact into sms or email you get the grey list like before?
What about T9 for soft keypad/boards? How does it function now?
I stumbled upon your thread while searching for "disable t9 hardware keyboard".
I have the same problem on my Kaiser... Installed ezinput keypad/board and now have that 'damn' black bar. I'm getting used to it like 'GaZ' but dont really like it...
<<<UPDATE: Only selected abc over t9. Black bar still there.>>>>
use different sip
im not sure if this help but wasnt this issue introduced with the diamond sip set? maybe using different sips might get rid of it. or maybe replacing the new eT9 and using the old wm6 t9 instead in wm6.1 roms. just a thought
Hi,
When I type fast on the Samsung Epix (i907) keyboard, then often letters are missing, even though I did get the feedback from the keyboard that the keys were pressed. For example, when I try to enter "this is a test with the new keyboard" it just came out as "this is ates wit the newkeyboard".
I am typing at the same speed on other mobile devices (e.g. Blackberry) and it works fine there.
Here is what I have tried so far:
1) Turned off Word Completion and Auto Correct under "Settings/Input/Word Completion". Some posts suggested that solves the issue on some other Windows Mobile devices, but it did not do anything on the Epix.
2) Changed sensitivity on the Up/Down Control under "Settings/Buttons". Same result: no change.
3) Performed a hard reset and tried it again with only the blank OS (plus all the goodies AT+T added...). Still same result.
Does anybody have any other suggestions?
Thanks much!
Ralph
plaes ask question in the correct thread this helps us to answer you better and get your question noticed
Thanks for the quick reply. Which forum is the most appropriate for this question? I was not able to find a forum specifically for the Epix.
Thanks.
Ralp
rbuelling said:
Hi,
When I type fast on the Samsung Epix (i907) keyboard, then often letters are missing, even though I did get the feedback from the keyboard that the keys were pressed. For example, when I try to enter "this is a test with the new keyboard" it just came out as "this is ates wit the newkeyboard".
I am typing at the same speed on other mobile devices (e.g. Blackberry) and it works fine there.
Here is what I have tried so far:
1) Turned off Word Completion and Auto Correct under "Settings/Input/Word Completion". Some posts suggested that solves the issue on some other Windows Mobile devices, but it did not do anything on the Epix.
2) Changed sensitivity on the Up/Down Control under "Settings/Buttons". Same result: no change.
3) Performed a hard reset and tried it again with only the blank OS (plus all the goodies AT+T added...). Still same result.
Does anybody have any other suggestions?
Thanks much!
Ralph
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Is it random letters or is it always the same letters that you missing? According the example text that you have given it seams you have missed twice the space key.
However I have such issue with my HTC Universal. In my case I found out it is the keyboard membrane that doesnt function as it suppose to be and it is mostly the same letters that failing.
See now I had the Mogul and this happened almost no stop. I figured it to be an issue with lag?
Hi everyone, i have some problems messaging with SMS stock app.
Often, when write something, if I click on the option button (for accessing smiles), the conversation go back to the first message, and the stock keyboard crash (only in landscape mode).
Additionally, when I press backspace, it came up with 'delete by selection' function...
Try Hard Reset, but without results...
It's by the way... a bug?
Or it's my Device?
Thanks a lot.
p.s. sorry for my bad english
i can't reproduce it on my device.
what do you mean by option button? it's on keyboard or you mean HW menu button?
yup, it's the HW button (to the left of home button).
This issues appear usually after I unlock the screen or after other operation.
Example:
Device screend locked -----> unlock -----> answer message ---> issues in landscape mode.
Example 2:
Playing with some game------->answer message (or write new one)---->issues in landscape
Not noticed any issues and had the phone for over a month but I don't use the phone in landscape mode ever so must be a landscape problem.
Sent from my HTC Desire S using XDA App
is it software-related o HW-related?
What do you think?
igooor87 said:
yup, it's the HW button (to the left of home button).
This issues appear usually after I unlock the screen or after other operation.
Example:
Device screend locked -----> unlock -----> answer message ---> issues in landscape mode.
Example 2:
Playing with some game------->answer message (or write new one)---->issues in landscape
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and does it happen right after pressing menu key? or after selecting smiley to insert?
when i press menu key, keyboard is closed right away and menu is opened.
when pressing the button or when pressing the 'hide qwerty' button...
Not every time... like..
5 times over 10 tries.
I have just tried this and the first time I started a reply and typed some words then presses the option button then more then smileys I pressed back and the kb had gone and it took me to the first msg in my conversation. Have tried it several times since but could not replicate it.
I don't use the stock sms app, I use handcent sms and have no issues
Sent from my HTC Desire S using XDA App
you hit the spot, is that problem!
Is it a bug? Hope that it will fix soon...
Handcent is good like stock app?
does changing another ruu help?
I have this problem! I find if I press backspace too many times while in landscape mode, say after I mess up a word typing that it won't autocorrect, it takes me to this delete message menu. Going to install a better messaging app.
RUU= Rom Upgrade Utility?
@ridley1000
The same problem here, then i believe that is a problem with gingerbread+stock sms app.
I'm not sure why this happens this way but just about every time I go to compose a new SMS, as soon as I start to type in the main text field, it puts up the 'select' cursor which is the little blue box that hangs over the 'W' key on the keyboard.
If I need to start typing and the first word starts with a W, I have to wait about 5 seconds for this cursor to disappear so I can then hit the letter. How the hell do I remove this and stop it from happening? I'm not sure what to look for in the settings but as of yet haven't seen anything. I'm on the latest version and it's been happening for the past few revisions.
Oh and I'm using Smart Keyboard Pro if it's possibly a keyboard issue and not the fault of Go SMS Pro itself.
[EDIT] I think the problem is that when I go to compose a new message, the cursor is blinking in the field to type but my keyboard isn't on the screen. When I click the field to get the keyboard to pop up, then it brings up the cursor which you'd normally see if you want to select text and/or past something from the clipboard. I just tested in Dolphin HD and this doesn't happen this way as the keyboard presents itself as soon as I click in the url field.