Has ANYONE else run into this problem at all? This is the second time in two days of extensive OM use and it's starting to bother me. It seems that after a certain amount of time with Opera Mobile 9.5 (stock ROM - the version that came with the Alltel TP) open and running, typing using the on-screen (TouchPal) keyboard and just other general browser features, all of a sudden, my Call, End and slide out keyboard buttons don't work. The keyboard backlight doesn't even turn on when I open it and sometimes the orientation doesn't even change it gets so bad/laggy.
If memory serves correctly, it also only seems to happen when I'm charging it too. Does anyone else even have this problem? Could someone suggest some registry settings that I might have modified to cause this? I'm 95% sure it's Opera Mobile because I don't think (remember) this has ever happened with anything else from the Phone app to Texts to Total Commander.
Anyone?
(I should also add that even when I close OM it shows about 30-40MB of RAM being used that shouldn't be used. It's normally about 125-130MB of free RAM but when this happens it drops to 95MB free with NOTHING running)
It happens to me too.After extensive use of opera mobile...
Even without charging sometimes.All I can do to fix it is soft reset.It is really annoying.I am waiting for a new firmware update from the greek operator to resolve this. I think the opera mobile version is the culprit too,but I can't install another version,I cannot flash anothe firmware because I will lose my guarantee.Other than that I am very pleased with touch pro!
I just wanted to bump this to see if I could get a couple more replies. I'll give it a few more bumps, as it's 2AM EST right now, so I'm probably missing the peaktime traffic hours
Hello!
I had similar problem with my tp. After extensive use of opera over wifi set to best performance phone gets hot, the keybord does not respond and in a while phone hangs. After soft reset all is back to normal.
It never happened diring browsing over 3g/hsdpa
BHole
I've got the same problem, i'm using touch pro. Running messenger but it seems to auto close as it likes i'm use to it. And after running opera for quite long time, sometimes it auto close together with the messenger, sometimes huge lag occurs that made my keyboard unworkerable. Soft reset cleared all.. Any ideal to fix it???
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Greetings!
As mentioined in the first post of this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=418150&highlight=issue+list I have encountered similar problems.
I own my TP for 3 days (2 nights) and on both mornings after being charged over the night the TP was absolutely unresponsive and only to be awakened by a soft reset. It couldn't receive calls, and the alarm of course didn't work also (so I missed one this morning - but wasn't late at work) Anyway, this is a serious issue to me, since it makes the phone absolutely unreliable. And I am not in favor of doing regular hard resets by the way ...
Help on this would be really appreciated.
Greetings, hugo
Mine does this everyday, but have you tried pressing one of the buttons like the home button, I know nothing happens for a minute but then it comes back to life with out the need for a soft reset
Haven't tried ...
Well, I haven't tried pressing a button and waiting, but this is not exactly the behavior, to expect from a phone of this kind. You see this wouldn't solve the Problem of not being reachable by phone and missing appointments. In fact I don't know, that how long I was unreachable on phone and in my profession this isn't just disturbing but unacceptable.
Hugo
I've had the same problem, not every time it's charged, but enough times to be a problem. I've switched off TF3D (Start, Settings, Today, Items, untick TouchFLO 3D, tick some standard items).
The problem has gone. Of course, so has TouchFLO.
Cheers,
Graham.
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The problem has gone. Of course, so has TouchFLO.
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This could be of course a last resort, but TouchFlo is quite nice to use (although I cannot get TF to use PocketInformant as calendar app, although it is defined as standard - the original MS calendar app must be hardcoded somwhere ...). And of course as TF is one of the main features of this phone a great amount of it's costs are caused by that software. So if I couldn't use it, the phone would loose a lot of it's value.
Isn't there a sort of event log in wm6.1 to see, which event crashes the system?
Hugo
I get a similar problem in that I lose all sound overnight, so I too miss my alarms. I also get no sound through the earpiece so, although it vibrates when it is supposed to be ringing, I cannot speak on the phone as I cannot hear the other person, and it seems they cannot hear me either, so it obviously affects the microphone as well. I have done a hard reset but it still happens, so it's definitely a bug with TF3D. I know this because if I try to play one of my music tracks using the music tab in TF3D, it plays for about 5-6 seconds (obviously with no sound) and then it crashes TF3D and restarts itself, which sorts the sound issue out. No need for a soft reset here but it's still unacceptable as my alarms are useless, and for £500+ I don't expect such a stupid flaw in the software. Hopefully, a ROM upgrade will sort this out, but when that will be is anyone's guess at the moment.
matmaneyre said:
...so it's definitely a bug with TF3D.
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That's also my conclusion.
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Hopefully, a ROM upgrade will sort this out
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I think that's what we have to wait for. Until then, it's a choice between bland-but-working or cute-but-unreliable.
have you tried any of these little mem resident babys to get your ram back and kill bad things while it sleeps
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2136914
Hmm...I'm just wondering why not more people are reporting this? Anyone NOT experiencing this problem?
Not till now I didn't
Using Stock ROM
I am more and more convicee, that TF3D is quite a buggy piece of software (Aussen hui - innen pfui!). Additionaly to the described above, I got a "broken glass" effect yesterday.
I sure do hope, that HTC releases a ROM update soon, although up until now the Touch Pro isn't even listed on HTC's german support pages.
Maybe I'll give SPB mobile shell a try ...
Hugo
Having same problem, not all the time though.
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Hmm...I'm just wondering why not more people are reporting this? Anyone NOT experiencing this problem?
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I have the same problem...
A few times already... even this morning.
TP is totally unresponsive and had to soft reset it to get it back alive.
ROM 1.90.401.1 WWE
Radio 1.02.25.19
Protocol 52.33.25.17U
I've had the HTC Touch Pro for about three weeks now, and since then it's crashed or become unusable at least once a day. I do not believe for one second that these issues are restricted to my handset, and comments on this forum back that up.
Problems I've experienced:
1. TouchFlo 3D screen corruption - "broken glass effect". The TouchFlo interface appears fragmented and split - it continues to function, but is unwatchable. The OS and other applications are unaffected. Cause unknown. Cured by soft reset.
2. Complete screen corruption + freeze. The entire screen gets a still image that looks like 'white noise' - random black and white pixels. The device is completely locked. Cause unknown. Cured by soft reset.
3. Device fails to wake up. Screen has been powered down, either having been switched off manually, or by timeout. Device later fails to respond to Power button. Happens occasionally without warning, and frequently (almost 100%) during overnight charge. Note - leaving the Touch Flo interface on 'Programs' tab (i.e. not 'Home') during charge seems to alleviate this (I don't yet have enough evidence to back up this claim).
I like this phone and its touch interface, but am pretty disgusted by the reliability issues, which I would guess are largely connected to the TouchFlo 3D code and/or hardware drivers. HTC really need to sort this out.
I've had the alarm fail on two mornings so far, needed soft reset.
I'm going to try disabling touchflo I think. Be nice to have pocketbreeze running again anyway.
Just out of curiousity
Do you have your phone set to turn off the screen even if it is charging? I don't have the Pro... yet, but with my 6700 I used to have to ensure the screen stayed on over night if I wanted to have a chance at the phone actually being responsive in the morning so the alarm would go off. Otherwise it would be as your Pro's seem to be doing. Will not turn on or anything until a soft reset. (It is not a fix by any means, I am just curious if it is still the same patern.)
I never charge over night simply to avoid it being charged for 8 hours straight. I keep a charge kit at work, and charge during the day as needed. In less than an hour, I get full battery. Then, I sit it next to my bed at night with no failed alarms.
Maybe it doesn't like the long charges.
I'm trying DCS's ROM now to see if it makes any difference at all. I'll report back in a couple of days. Maybe if I didn't have to charge it so often it wouldn't be so bad!
Wether screen is on or not, it doesn't make a difference. (Why should it on a working phone?)
I sincerely hope, that if those strange behaviours are gone in non stock cooked roms, that there will be some in German language as well ...
I am looking forward to another night!
By the way, SPB Mobile Shell didn't quite meet my expectations. (eg. it has also the sucking MS calender hard coded)
Experienced the "non-responsive in the morning" problem 2 times in 3 days, without the phone being charged. Both times I had the white noise effect on the screen.
Turned off TF3D (I like the phone more without it, actually) and the problem didn't occur in the last 5 days since I did this. It's most likely a TF3D related issue and it will prolly be fixed by the next update.
-KickFlo
Anyone else finding that PhoneEx locks up on them after awile? Seems like a great program otherwise but 2 or three times a day I'll bring it up and it won't do anything other than hide and show itself. It won't navigate between favorits, calls, contacts, etc. It is completely unresponsive. Attempting to kill the process with MemMaid generally toasts the phone and I have to reset it.
Just wondering if I'm alone in this, or if anyone else has discovered a magic combination of things that may be leading to this.
AJ
Well I can possibly answer my own question. On a hunch, I disabled S2U2 from automatic startup and I haven't had PhoneEx lockup once since.
Would suck cause I like S2U2, with PhoneEx I can ditch about three other programs I've been using, so I guess if it continues to work I will have to do without S2U2. Or perhaps I will try fiddling with it to see if there's a particular setting in S2 that is causing this issue.
AJ
Although since removing S2U2 the PhoneEx lockups have diminished in freqeuncy, they haven't gone entirely. I woke up this morning to find that PhoneEx was unresponsive, but, as is always the case, the rest of the system works normally (I haven't yet received a call with it in this state - it will be interesting to find out what happens).
Has no one else experienced this problem, or does no one else use PhoneEx?
AJ
PhoneEx
I am... for about 4 days on two phones...nothing like that happend...yet and hopefully never does. love s2u2 and PhoneEx...i personally do not use phoneex to answer the incoming calls...i let the s2u2 to do all the job including the notifications....which is better to let s2u2 to deal with them so you won't get any conflicts...take care
Ps.
by the way a new version it's gonna pop up any day now 1.4 the russians done a new improved version it take about four times less memory(about 300kb instead of 1000 kb) and fixed some bugs to it...it's out there already but only in chirilic language...the only problem i have so far is that i can't use the speaker button it kinda do weird noise when activate as if the speaker it's to close to the mic.
PhoneEX
I does not lock up for me, although it took me 2 days to note that the keboard locks during a call and you have to unlock it to use the keyboard (could that be your problem?)
I do have another problem though and that is if I do a soft reset for whatever reason PhoneEx then spends 3 or 4 minutes "Intialising Contacts" before I can use my HTC Touch HD.
Anyone got a solution for this.
Sam
iconsoft.com (phoneEx)
phoneEx is a great program. my friend has it and he has never had a problem with it on his windows mobile device.PhoneEx is a great program people with a windows mobile device should definatly look in to the program . i am curenty using the trial i am about to get the program i am looking forward to it i canot wait i can already see its going to be great . my phone is doing great with this program i love it and thanks Iconsoft you guys are really smart for putting the program on there . you can get the program by going to www.iconsoft.com
i recomend it it is a great program
Installed PhoneEx (no to answer phone) on my Elf today after a week of using S2U2 - and had four lockups already. Any hope for this? *trying again with the "don't use keyboard lock " setting set to true as per another thread/post.
(Still No Solution found so Far)
I have an unsolved Issue with the Hardware Keyboard of my HTC Fuze.
When i turn on the Wifi, the HW keyboard becomes totally unresponsive and unusable after come back from a Sleep Mode....Keyboard lights turned off, and i have to Soft Reset in order to get the Keyboard back to function.
I have been searching over 2 months for any possible solution in the forum and google without luck, apparently other users are facing the same iproblem.
i have tried the recommendations/suggestions i have found in this forum so far:
-modify the up/down repeat rate
-disabling t9/cleartype
-adjusting wifi to middle, better battery and better performance
-RR Keyboard Speed Increase.cab
After all this attempts, my Keyboard still tend to die.
It only happens with the WIFI no issues with the Data Plan, it's definitely a Wifi prob with the Sleep Mode.
Please i beg for a solution if there is one. Thanks a lot.
Mine dies almost always when using any chat client to chat. (Skype, MSN, Nimbuzz, Fring). But this wifi related case is not my problem. Although I've heard about it here few times
Try to uninstall default Opera and install 15316 build.
Same problem here, sometime the hw keyboard not working, and after I closed opera, all the keys that I typed before will be captured by Phone screen.
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Try to uninstall default Opera and install 15316 build.
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i completely uninstalled Opera from my device and soft reset. after that, enabled WiFi and logged into MSN, i typed a couple words, then screen went black for inactivity and when i turned on again, guess what, keyboard was unusable/off again
DP: it seems KB dies just after screen turns off somehow...
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i completely uninstalled Opera from my device and soft reset. after that, enabled WiFi and logged into MSN, i typed a couple words, then screen went black for inactivity and when i turned on again, guess what, keyboard was unusable/off again
DP: it seems KB dies just after screen turns off somehow...
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Ок, Opera seems doesnt kill keyboard
Try set Diamond tweak-wifi standby mode disabled.
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Ок, Opera seems doesnt kill keyboard
Try set Diamond tweak-wifi standby mode disabled.
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it cannot fix the problem of the keyboard
tsc said:
Ок, Opera seems doesnt kill keyboard
Try set Diamond tweak-wifi standby mode disabled.
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unfortunately issue persists after disabling stand by with advance configuration 3.3
thanks anyway for helping mate
rocho said:
unfortunately issue persists after disabling stand by with advance configuration 3.3
thanks anyway for helping mate
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On my second fuze now, the first one did this quite frequently. This one, my second, does it too, just much less frequently. I notice it more when it gets hot (running wifi).
I don't know if it is a bug or a design flaw but this is two for me with same exact problem.
I`ve just noticed that yesterday. I had no problems with keyboard for 6 weeks now. Strange. Maybe some stuff I installed. It was MSVC yesterday
EDIT:
I found the culprit. For me "-adjusting wifi to middle, better battery and better performance" solved the problem, moved that to the left yesterday.
im the only one experimenting this issue? ;(
Weird one here, 'cause I can't seem to figure out what could be wrong.
I have owned 3 WinMo devices over the last few (many, I'm very careful) years but something has been bugging me with all devices; WM2003, WM5, last one WM6.1 recently upgraded via official T-Mo Rom to WM6.5.
* Multitasking has always been a problem, usually could only run few progs until an app closed itself (without warning) or I got low mem message
* Sometime running a single app, nothing else, even the single app like for instance Opera or Skyfire (while viewing a light site) browser would suddenly be gone (while browsing, or when turning on TP2 from standby).
I had the above with ALL my WinMo phones, all the above mentions OS. From almost fresh out of the box till using a device for more then 2 years. I thought it was just me, or that this was just something WinMo does standard and I would just have to get used to it. But since viewing vids on YouTube of for instance someone showing of his new TP2 while having about 10 heavy apps open in his taskmanager and then even showing Terminator 4 on high quality in CorePlayer. I thought *damn?* I didn't even see a bit of extra lag on his device?
Through Advanced Config i turned off the automatic closing of apps when mem usage is high, thought this would solve it; no dice...
Then I started thinking maybe it is an app I installed on every device so far. This is not really the case, although I do almost always install SPB Pocket Plus, and then via Pocket Plus menu uninstall almost all tools except the task bar battery indicator which I found handy, but this simple thing couldn't be causing all this on all different devices right? And every app I ever install I always check for a newer version before installing, or redownload software instal packs when something (like moving / copying, etc) could have damaged the install pack.
On my TP2, it's been getting more and more recent that most apps are just suddenly "gone" while doing nothing spectacular (just TaskMan all the time to check mem and almost never run multiple apps anymore simply trying to prevent that one app disappearing).
Is there a way to get a log file or something to be able to see what is causing all this, cause today was getting to be a "last straw"; both my Opera and SkyFire closes about 20 times in one hour, switched to Pocket IE... And again gone. Sometimes almost immediately, sometimes after using a few minutes. Actually one of the few apps that keeps itself (almost annoyingly) present and never shuts down is PockeTwitter which I started recently, nearly everything else (including standard ROM WinMo software like HTC Album and more) disappear when they feel like it.
Help help... It's like a curse following me...
Ps. To prevent dumb answers: I'm fairly smart with PC's and windows; I used to work in the IT business. So I do indeed know (a bit ) what I'm talking about. I can help other people with their PC and phone trouble; but this is just driving me crazy since there's no error message, nothing to help me figure out what's been bugging me al these years with WinMo.
I would say install a custom rom and then see how things go. My touch HD was a really annoying phone to begin with with all sorts of little bugs but after installing various custom roms nearly everything is ok.
(my phone does sometimes black screen and it needs the reset button to fix- only happens after 5 or more days without reseting)
when the wifi turn on, and i use the keyboard, and sometimes the wifi is breaking, and a few seconds after reconnect, but the keyboard not work. so i sign in the comm manager, and turn of the wifi, and return on it. well i so nervous! what's wrong????!!! thanks everybody
I have noticed/had this issue for a year now. No workaround seem to be found. What rom do you have? Same as mine?
Mine does it too... not sure why.
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Mine does it too... not sure why.
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I am "happy" to see that other roms have the same issue. So this is more generic issue. Geniuses, where are you?...
I notice it doesn't work for me sometimes on stock when the phone is busy trying to do something, such as load webpages in Opera. Might want to see if there are a lot of processes running for you.
Same problem with me. I'm with the latest stock rom. Good that as a girl i have long fingernails for the software keyboard
It happens when the wifi is set to high performance and even normal mode iirc. Set it to energy save mode and the keyboard will function correctly. It's something about power draw or heat, probably power draw.
I have a keyboard issue with my Fuze and found that the amount of text messages is somewhat related. I removed all but 500 total message and the keyboard seems to work "normally" to a degree. I will periodically get a double letter, or missing letter (usually the v) but the issue doesn't happen nearly as often since i've removed old texts.
I'm on best battery and it's still the same issue. Also with me msgs have no relation, i have that since i bought the phone.
i'm use the latest official rom, but it's not good too.