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Getting the touch flo app to see my music...

I've removed the supplied music and added my own selection to my memory card. The touch flo music app see's this in its library and, if I go through the pages to select and album and song, will show the album art etc. in the touch flo music player but it only shows that one artist at a time, not the stacked albums as with the original, supplied music.
How do I get the touch flo music player to build the stacked view of my artists?
Thanks...

Isn't touchflo3D linked to windows media player? If so, try going to start>programs>wmp right click>Update library. I haven't had this problem so don't know much.

I don't use WMP as such though and only want to synch some files from another location, not those my laptop has access to...

2nd poster is right, you have to find a link to windows media player then go into the options and update your library. It finds all music files and adds them, and they can then be accessed by going into the music tab and hitting Library in the bottom left.

Okay, cheers. Will give it a go and sort it out.
Thanks both.

That's weird. All I did was dump a load of tracks onto my SD card in a folder and they all appeared. I didnt have to do anything in WMP etc. TF3D picked them up pretty much straight away.
EDIT: Having read your OP again, I see what you are getting at. The view of "stacked albums" you are talking about is the "Now Playing" list. You have to add items into Now Playing before they will appear there. You will not see your entire music collection in that view unless you put them all into the playist that is currently playing.

Syphon Filter said:
That's weird. All I did was dump a load of tracks onto my SD card in a folder and they all appeared. I didnt have to do anything in WMP etc. TF3D picked them up pretty much straight away.
EDIT: Having read your OP again, I see what you are getting at. The view of "stacked albums" you are talking about is the "Now Playing" list. You have to add items into Now Playing before they will appear there. You will not see your entire music collection in that view unless you put them all into the playist that is currently playing.
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AH, I didn't even realize that lol... I thought he meant getting them into the library, and unlike yours mine didn't pick them up automatically. I had a folder full of files with "No program assigned" so I couldn't even open them until I updated my library.

i think that the original tracks gave you the wrong ideia. I used a diamond and i could only ear one artist at the time! the up and down only changes track.
But since you mention it, try messing with the settings and choose all albums. This should do the trick because with the original track they were like albums but with only one sample track each??
Should be getting mine soon to try it out

Yep, think I'm getting the hang of it.
Some confusion too. When I was referring to WMP I meant on my laptop rather than WMP on the Touch Pro.
WMP on my laptop wanted to synch a few hundred pictures as well... Stopped that and removed what I don't want leaving only the music I do want on the Touch Pro storage card.
Have now updated the library from within WMP on the Touch Pro (you have to first change it to look in the storage card) and now things are looking better.
Yep, agree that the supplied sample tracks give the impression that the Touch Flo music app can navigate between albums a flick at a time whereas this was because there was only a single track per each of these albums...
Have also seen that I need to get a selection made in order for the stacked album covers to appear...
Getting there slowly...

Further. Have added all my music to a playlist now and that makes all the albums come up in the stacked album view within the touch flo music app.
Not quite like what I thought it would be like though, i.e. you are limited to scrolling through your music one track at a time, the album flips to the next when you reach beyond the first or last track - you can't flip through albums at a time using the interface (unless the album has only one track) to select.

Can the Touchflow built in player read flac files? I have a feeling WMP doesnt...

NutsyUK said:
Can the Touchflow built in player read flac files? I have a feeling WMP doesnt...
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I think it's just a re-skinned WMP, built around it. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't that why you update WMP's library and it shows up in touch-flo's library?

It is a crock, I am going to switch it off, all I want to do is browse the folders to add songs to the play list but all I get is a big long list of all the songs on there, I have multiple versions of some but I can't see which are which.......

kempas said:
Further. Have added all my music to a playlist now and that makes all the albums come up in the stacked album view within the touch flo music app.
Not quite like what I thought it would be like though, i.e. you are limited to scrolling through your music one track at a time, the album flips to the next when you reach beyond the first or last track - you can't flip through albums at a time using the interface (unless the album has only one track) to select.
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yes, if you have 10 songs from the same album, each gesture flick will flip to the next track but the album art doesn't flip since it's the same album.
I "workaround" by creating a playlist containing multiple albums, and then I sort them in such a manner that the album tracks are arranged randomly, or at least no two track from the same album are together side by side.

Regarding album art.
I have added pics to albums that I have in WMP on PC. Synced those albums with TP. Some of the album arts does not show in TF3Ds music player, other does. However, album art shows nice when playing the same file in WPM on TP. Any clues???

Regarding album art, one foolproof way I've discovered of ensuring it appears is to make sure each album folder contains a file called Folder.jpg, then TF3D's music app will convert that JPG into it's own album art file when it next updates its library, which it tends to do either after a soft reset or after a memory card is inserted.
You may then delete all the Folder.jpg files if you want, to save space - they won't be needed any more.

Album covers - how to?

How can I make the Album covers appear in the "Music" Application? I ripped my audio CDs with Windows Media Player, transferred the Albums to the TP but the album covers don't show. Do I have to place the cover picture manually into the folders? If so, what file name / extension???

My album covers do show up, but I'm not sure why. ;-)
But I think it is because I placed the cover pictures into the folders named "folder.jpg". But since I use itunes it could also be the fact that I've additionaly written the cover into the mp3s id-tags.
Hope that helps!

Album Covers problem solved
1) For each album folder on the phone, put the album art in a file called Folder.jpg, in the same folder as the MP3 files belonging to the album.
2) Delete the phone's music library database (by renaming the file \Application Data\HTC\AudioManager_Eng\AudioManager_Eng.vol to some other name) [I'm guessing the "Eng" string might be different on some versions]
3) Go into the Music application, press the 'Library' option (bottom left on the screen) and wait while it rebuilds the library.
It will re-size all the Folder.jpg files, and rename them in its own cryptic way. After that, they will appear as album art.
If you synch using Windows Media Player, all this ought, in principle, to be done for you.
Hope this helps,
Jim

exclude folders?
I've a somehow related question:
Is it possible to exclude folders from being indexed into the library? I have some event-sounds, ringtones and so on on my sd-card and all those files all show up in the library as unknown artist etc. and I would really prefer them not showing up at all.

i just add the album arts via itune, then copy the mp3 to the memory card, works like magic

for some albums like indian (bollywood) music for me it is hard to find album art in that case or if you want to display a pic of yor own choice.
i have found that if i place the album art jpeg file into the same folder as the music file. then rename the jpeg to ~htc_"album name".jpg without the quotation marks seems to change the album art for me but this can be quiet tideous i guess

I got another solution for you guys
Hi folks!
The solution is to edit the mp3's ID tag and to put the cover pic on it.
Use a ID tag editor such as Zortam Mp3 Media Studio (free software).You select all the mp3s and you select the cover pic you want and it will includin it into the mp3s IDTag.No need to put the cover pic on the folder or some like that.Moreover, u can put a pic to each mp3s U want(if your a little bit maso ).
There are lots of free softwares for that so find the one for you!
I work well on my Touch Pro like in Windows Mediplayer, Itunes...
Hope it will help you.Bye

The easiest way is with this program http://www.mediamonkey.com/ the free version is sufficient.
It searches for the ID-tag and downloads the covers. You just have to choose the right one, save and copy to the Touch Pro...

hey there, again a related question:
my album art works, thank god so far. but it doesnt work like it want it to.
if you re just listen to 1 album (so all mp³s got the same cover-image) tf3d just puts one coverimage in the front of the player. so you dont see the covers behind. i know, this is not that important... but i want it that way, because i like this scrolling->switch to next track.
any ideas?

Yea but it's not pretty...
hasi_bär said:
hey there, again a related question:
my album art works, thank god so far. but it doesnt work like it want it to.
if you re just listen to 1 album (so all mp³s got the same cover-image) tf3d just puts one coverimage in the front of the player. so you dont see the covers behind. i know, this is not that important... but i want it that way, because i like this scrolling->switch to next track.
any ideas?
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Basically, you will need to edit the attributes of each mp3 file with a UNIQUE album name and then put each song in its own folder with its own folder.jpg image. I found this out by mistake. It's A LOT OF WORK for any significant sized music library.
I personally just load lots of different artists and albums in their own folders and play from the Song List. TFL3D lists the songs separately and it looks great with high res pics. That way, I can show off the "image flipping" in TFL3D like you said.

Adrianstudent said:
The easiest way is with this program http://www.mediamonkey.com/ the free version is sufficient.
It searches for the ID-tag and downloads the covers. You just have to choose the right one, save and copy to the Touch Pro...
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I did it this way and let it download the covers and put it in the tag. It works great, and TF3D automatically creates the ~hTC_AlbumName.jpg file.
I've noticed that while scrolling through music it can get painfully slow and act like it freezes up while trying to load the album cover.
Is there a "best size" for the album art image? I could resize them all to be the same optimal size.
I didn't notice these slowdowns when scrolling through music without album art, so I know its related to that.

I just take the whole album folder and copy/paste to my memory card. Then rebuild library. The album folder has everything, but its hidden when you look at it in Windows PC explorer.
If you just have sporadic, illegal downloads from WinMX, then create a folder with the name of the artist, place all your illegal mp3s for that artist there along with a album cover that follows the same naming convention for album covers htc~ something something. Copy paste the folder to your card and voila, its all good.

When using MediaMonkey, some of the images it downloaded were large, causing the music tab to hang for a few minutes.
It looks like the ideal size is 256x256. After resizing a few of my images to that size the music tab flows like it should now with no freezes or hangs.

Is there a way to download the covers directly on Raphael? I don't want to pollute my desktop mp3 collection with images, but covers on Raphael would be nice.

kocureq said:
Is there a way to download the covers directly on Raphael? I don't want to pollute my desktop mp3 collection with images, but covers on Raphael would be nice.
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You can save the album art in the ID3 Tag of the mp3 and it won't pollute your desktop mp3 collection because the image is stored in the mp3 file itself.

DeepThought said:
I've a somehow related question:
Is it possible to exclude folders from being indexed into the library? I have some event-sounds, ringtones and so on on my sd-card and all those files all show up in the library as unknown artist etc. and I would really prefer them not showing up at all.
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DeepThought - I had this problem too. Basically I used Advanced Config and changed the music location to Storage Card\My Music and it only listed all my music in there. Hope that helps?
On another related question - is there a way to "purge" the music library? When I delete tracks they are still in the library with a ! as the album cover and when I flick through the library on T3D it shows the ! but skips by it and it's annoying!
Anyway to get rid of it?

mindfrost82 said:
You can save the album art in the ID3 Tag of the mp3 and it won't pollute your desktop mp3 collection because the image is stored in the mp3 file itself.
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And how do I do it? Ay special software is required or just good old winamp?

kocureq said:
And how do I do it? Ay special software is required or just good old winamp?
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Probably the most easy way is to use the freeware Mp3tag (but also iTunes or WMP11 support adding cover pictures).
HTH

These solutions don't work for me. Windows Media player on the phone shows all my album arts. However the music player only shows a fraction. I've tried deleting the volume and resyncing but no effect.

alabij said:
These solutions don't work for me. Windows Media player on the phone shows all my album arts. However the music player only shows a fraction. I've tried deleting the volume and resyncing but no effect.
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There is a thread in the diamond forum that tells the name of a particular software that will do this for you automatically. Here is what I do, while it is a bit tedious it gets it don without cluttering up my desktop.
This is only if you have some album art there (ie in Win Media player only) you can navigate to the artist folder and create a copy of the album art file. It should be something.jpg Change the name of the copy to Folder.jpg. Soft reset and then Audio manager will create the *Htc.jpg file it needs to display the album art.
If you don't use Windows Media Mobile then you can skip the copying and rename the file to Folder.jpg.

AudioManager problem

Hey guys, I've got this problem where HTC Touch PRO's TF3D Music tab can't play my music. I would get an error message "AudioManager_eng.exe has encountered a problem" and "shell32.exe has encountered a problem", smth like that. I've tried deleting the .VOL file and then soft reset. But when I go to the Music tab, AudioManager would Search for audio files and then those 2 error messages would pop up while searching and AudioManager will juz show "Searching" on the Music tab.
I've done a hard reset but to no avail. I really need this fixed. Thanks guys!

Come on guys. Anything?

Maybe you should try flashing a custom ROM.

I remember having this problem, I don't know how i resolved it, but just search AudioManager_eng.exe in google you'll find you answer, I'm sure.
Did you change your storage card to "my documents"? If so change it back there are to many problems.
Regards,
AJ

ajvdn said:
I remember having this problem, I don't know how i resolved it, but just search AudioManager_eng.exe in google you'll find you answer, I'm sure.
Did you change your storage card to "my documents"? If so change it back there are to many problems.
Regards,
AJ
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I don't wanna flash a custom ROM. Also, what did u mean by changing my storage card to "my documents"?

You need to download mp3tag, transfer your music back to your desktop, strip all the tags off your songs and resync it. This fixes the audiomanager crash. I had the same problem and I tryed this and it worked. This solution comes from the Diamond forum

Wow, that fixed the problem. Thanks! So AudioManager doesn't support ID3 tags? If I added only album art into the tag, will the same problem occur?

Sil3ncer said:
Wow, that fixed the problem. Thanks! So AudioManager doesn't support ID3 tags? If I added only album art into the tag, will the same problem occur?
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I'm not sure but give it a try and let us know. There has to be a way to still get our album art on our music and have it play through audio manager

You can install the album art, as I have it running perfectly on my TP. I did learn though that you can only install the art assigned by Media Player on your pc. I had two songs that I assigned custom album art. When trying to load the songs in my TP, I got an error similiar to the one you were getting (don't remember the exact, but did reference an *.exe file not working properly).
Good luck with your testing.

th1nm1nt said:
You can install the album art, as I have it running perfectly on my TP. I did learn though that you can only install the art assigned by Media Player on your pc. I had two songs that I assigned custom album art. When trying to load the songs in my TP, I got an error similiar to the one you were getting (don't remember the exact, but did reference an *.exe file not working properly).
Good luck with your testing.
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The album art assigned by WMP is not embedded into the MP3. I've found that if the album art is not embedded into the MP3, the album art will show up on WMP when u play it but won't show up if u transfer the song into an mp3 player or another PC. An embedded art will ALWAYS show up no matter where u play it from.

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The album art assigned by WMP is not embedded into the MP3. I've found that if the album art is not embedded into the MP3, .
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Correct, they are simple *.jpg files. I was referring to custom album art I assigned in Media Player (also *.jpg) would cause issues when attempting to play on TP. Not sure if there was another tag assigned in MP, but it didn't agree with my TP.

[RESOLVED] Adding CD Cover Images for MP3's w/o one

To add custom CD covers for music in TF3D, you need to first create the image in 256x256 w/ 82 DPI. Title the file ~hTC_<Album Name Goes Here>.jpg and move it into your My Music folder on your Fuze. Once it's there, go in and set the properties to hidden on the album cover.
Now, to get the image to show up on music that's already loaded onto your Fuze, just load each song individually. As of now, that's the only solution I've found for making the images show up. Any other hints or tips will be added to this first post as I see them. Feel free to post your own.
Apparently you can also embed the album art on your PC and it will tag along wherever the MP3 is moved to. (Thanks Kerensky97)
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For instance when I add some Shinedown songs from the new Us and Them album, the cover is there but when I put James Blunt on, I get the standard empty one. Anyway you can assign images to all your music?

KevinACrider said:
For instance when I add some Shinedown songs from the new Us and Them album, the cover is there but when I put James Blunt on, I get the standard empty one. Anyway you can assign images to all your music?
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I have noticed that most music players require that you place an album cover photo in .jpg format and name the cover either "folder" or "cover". Place the ablum cover in a folder with your music. Some players will show some of the embedded album art but not all of the embedded album art. Using the method I mentioned above works for most players.
Separate your music into seperate folders (I separate by album, artist and sometimes by type of music, then place an album cover in .jpg format into the folder and name the album art "folder". All the songs in that folder witht that album art should display that particular album art when playing.
If you put all you mixed songs into one folder and put one album art using the method mentioned above you will always see the same album cover for every song - this is why you will want to separate your music.
This works for me using Windows media player, TCPMP, S2P, and Mort Player.

I'm using the standard music player in TF3D. I have my music sorted into folders by the first letter of the artist but I don't see the same album art for all artists starting with S. I did see the art, I'll try to figure out the format and see if I can finagle it.

I dont have TF3D So I really can't say how it would work for that since I havn't tried it. you can try to embedd the art manually into each song. use something like Media Monkey (which you can download for free) to try embedding album art to you songs. I usually get my album art from this web site
http://www.albumart.org/

All my album art(jpg) is embedded in the MP3 metadata using Mp3tag and it all shows up fine in TF3D. It obviously checks that tag to see if you have it so no need for additional files in your folders (although I wonder which it will prefer if you have both?).
Do it to all your music on your computer and you can copy/paste/cut/rearrange your songs however you want and the art will always follow.

SOLVED: Album Art missing on most. (also Unknown Artist)

I transferred a bunch of music over using MediaMonkey, but most albums are missing album art. All the folders have a *.alb file, but no album cover shows up when i use the music player.
I have used MP3tag to view my tags, but nothing stands out as bad. 2 albums with all fields filled in, one shows album art, the other doesn't. Out of 20 albums i transferred over, only 4 show album art.
Any ideas?
Thanks
EDIT - other issues include "unknown artist" and it seems to be M4A files (AAC) Only.

I too use mediamonkey and the best way to have album art show for a song is to embed that art directly into the song's file. To do this in mediamonkey, sort by album, then highlight all songs of the same album and right click and press auto-tag from web. It will try to find the album art and you will embed it directly into the song. That way any media player will be able to show the album art.

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I too use mediamonkey and the best way to have album art show for a song is to embed that art directly into the song's file. To do this in mediamonkey, sort by album, then highlight all songs of the same album and right click and press auto-tag from web. It will try to find the album art and you will embed it directly into the song. That way any media player will be able to show the album art.
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I have done this and then re-synced. I see the tracks copied over - but still no album art. Very strange.

Solved it - also the unknown artist issue.
If I used MP3Tag and remove all tags, then save the files. Then use MP3tag to add new tags (pulled from Amazon); then save; then copy to phone all is good.
For some reason, Media Monkey is NOT refreshing what it sees, so it is not really copying the retagged files over to the device. Even if do a rescan, it isn't updating. Changing tags in MediaMonkey was not fixing it either.
Also, updating tags in MP3tag was not fixing it - i had to remove, save, add, save.