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Hi all,
i was googling for tweakui and came a result from handango.com => http://www.handango.com/SoftwareCat...Id=2&N=96806+4294910762&showBreadCrumbs=false
Check this guy is selling the tools he got free here at xda-devs.
the people who made the soft should do something about it...
I've just written to Handango. Please write to them to and get this thief off their books.
I have noticed that your vendor T.N Vietaus Trade (Australia) is selling a number of illegal (ie pirated or stolen IP) products, including Microsoft ROMs for Windows Mobile phones.
Also, he is reselling free products written by members of the xda developers forum at a significant mark up, free software for example being sold for $49.99.
Please ask this vendor to remove this software, or remove it for him.
Kind regards,
vijay555 (moderator at xda-developers.com)
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What a ****en Lame ass *****. THat is just the lowest you can go to, selling stuff that is offered to us here for free. **** him, ive written to them also to get this ***** from selling stuff on there. Good eye and thanks for making everyone aware of this.
I've sent handago an email as well. Keep the emails going.
what is the email?
Found the HQ phone number, will try to call (cant call anymore sorry) but will need more info on this like what app and other stuff that you can give
305 NE Loop 820
Suite 600
Hurst, Texas 76053
Corporate Office: 817-280-0129
Fax: 817-280-9628
He has ebooks in http://www.windowsmarketplace.com/category.aspx?bcatid=1129&av=14-275257
And same app's come up in the Microsoft handango page that is linked to the Microsoft Windows Mobile Product page Site http://microsoft.handango.com/PlatformTopSoftware.jsp?siteId=75&platformId=2&title=T.N+Vietaus+Trade+(Australia)&authorId=1811375
Mod needed
Can a mod post this in other forums so that everyone that has made a app can check if their app is in the selling list
Email of the supposed developer tnvietaus AT gmail dot com
And if im doing something wrong in giving this out, this info is on the web
This is insane.
haha I just left HORRIBLE reviews warning people on all of the links you just provided Mike.. lol.
I also emailed HIM... and Handango.
no, I just let them know that this stuff was available for free ...
The thing that IRKS me is he doesnt explain that there is MORE to just downloading and running the update to these.. so alot of people are probably ruining their devices.
FYI, this is one instance where the DMCA can be used to your benefit (if you are one of the software authors).
Do NOT write to Handango, et al, complaining that someone is selling free software.
Do write to the resellers and state, factually, that this person is selling software that *you* wrote without your permission or authorization. Also state, very factually, that you want the software pulled and any monies charged for the software to either be refunded to the purchasers or forwarded to you.
What would also help out is if all the software authors were to allow one person (perhaps vijay would be a good choice as he is both a mod and a software author) to act on their behalf so there is a single point of contact for XDA.
Tell me the address of Handago (and Microsoft, If I have read and understand well) and I also send an email.
Just a thought: many here (maybe me too?) searchin' and using no purchased software, and therefore one of us (or one of those having this "habit", if you like more saying so) has found not violating any legal or moral law. World goes around...
Gubbài.
He is selling over 90 titles, and they are ALL available here for free just about.. he is selling the dang HTC X-button for 24 dollars! lol.
derma, I think everyone here is realistic about software availability and software use... read around for my personal views on warez etc.
The board however has a strict policy on banning for distributing warez.
But, it takes some particularly spiteful cojones to steal someone else's work and then put your name on it and sell it. And then selling at an absurd markup... come on. There's reasonable cheekiness, but that's just taking the micky.
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Understanding doesn't mean accepting
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derma, I think everyone here is realistic about software availability and software use... read around for my personal views on warez etc.
The board however has a strict policy on banning for distributing warez.
But, it takes some particularly spiteful cojones to steal someone else's work and then put your name on it and sell it. And then selling at an absurd markup... come on. There's reasonable cheekiness, but that's just taking the micky.
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Just to explain my position about this.
As I wrote on the title of this post, I figure out what it can be the reasoning of this person but meanwhile I absolutely don't accept what he did (or it's better saying "what he didn't do" 'cos what he's selling it's not stuff of his own).
My thought doesn't want to be a provocation, at least not a gratuitous provocation, but a simple-soft thinking about a hard problem: copy-right (and use-wrong).
Obviously this is a real theft, more odious than that "normally" made to the detriment of that author of the software who sell his creation having the conceptual rights to do that. In this case we can see instead a double somersault: he sell something not of his own that originally is (was) free.
Hope being plain.
PS: "cojones"?! Maravilloso! ¡Hasta la revolución, siempre!
Gubbài.
It isn't just the markup, its the flagrant lack of informing people of the consequences of attempting to use those warez without having ample experience with their device. He just says 'For expert. Use at your own risk' he doesn't say .. 'If you don't know what you are doing your phone is dead.. d .. e .. a .. d' .. I feel bad for the people who have purchased these and tried to run them not knowing about unlocking and what not.. it's a shame
OMG, another one.
http://shop.my-symbian.com/Platform...0&productType=2&platformId=2&productId=208881
Where can i find the tweakUI here?
hanmin said:
OMG, another one.
http://shop.my-symbian.com/Platform...0&productType=2&platformId=2&productId=208881
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Review added saying it's free here.
As most of you would know, we have learned quite a bit about Defy bootloader during the last week.
We always thought that Motorola don't have a method to unlock production defys (defys shipped to end users). Well we have sufficient information now to prove that Motorola have a method, and that it converts production defys to engineering defys (Phones used by Motorola engineers to make ROMs and other stuff)
This is actually better than a simple unlocked boot-loader because eng defys have unlimited applications (because we have direct access to MOBO/CPU) like overclocking gpu, installing other OS like Ubuntu, Debian, WP7 etc. into NAND and a lot more.
So the problem here is that the tools required for ENG switch is only available to Motorola employees. Till now we have no further information on it. The tools are TI OMAP BOARD CONFIGURATION TOOL and a 16MB .bin file. Other significance of this method is that it might also unlock other phones with OMAP(3xxx/xxxx?) board. Also this method seems to be very stable.
So the good news is that this software is available for most Motorola repair centers. That means it would be easier to get a leak. Of course the highly paid Motorola engineers with 6digit paycheck wont leak it but we should consider low level repair executives (they already leak sbfs and RSDlite).
So my suggestion is we start a bounty thread in XDA to tempt them.
If you have a solution and if you are concerned about anonymity, please PM me.
PS : There are lots of bounty threads in xda.
Hi,
Setting a Bounty would be cool, but is legal ?
Cause it is not like "I pay you a lot of money if you steal this software for me"
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Hi,
Setting a Bounty would be cool, but is legal ?
Cause it is not like "I pay you a lot of money if you steal this software for me"
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hmm. It depend's on which country you are from.
I'm quite on it. Minimum/maximum fee could be set (like US$2 min and 20 bucks max, or anything like this). And someone with access to Motorola's employees (I think the user racca works on a Moto distributor, but I'm not sure of it, I think he mentioned it in some thread a few months ago) could rush and "bribe" them. If people could be a bit more clear about which kind of employees should have access to this software, I could try and convince one of them (you know, people here in Brazil aren't that much into honesty, but are a lot into money) about heading us a leak from TI's software. I'll have to take my phone to MOTOAssist soon ("menu" and "back" keys' backlights are weaker than normal), so I'd have at least an actual reason to talk to an assist technician (assuming they have access to the board configuration tool).
Yet, since I'm no hacker (yet, I'm planning on getting a Nook Color - which community here in XDA seems to provide all you need to start your own ROM - and starting messing around with it) nor coder (know only a little about C programming), I would not try and mess around with TI's software, but only upload it somewhere and give you guys a link for it.
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I'm quite on it. Minimum/maximum fee could be set (like US$2 min and 20 bucks max, or anything like this).
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We could even promote it with ads. The best way would be to set up our on website, maybe in Brazil(or with some webhost who would like to host this) where you could bribe your way out and then promote it with ads. There is a remote chance that XDA might not approve a bounty thread here (of illegal implications), but we could publish the website here and all other major forums (chinese forums as well).
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We could even promote it with ads. The best way would be to set up our on website, maybe in Brazil(or with some webhost who would like to host this) where you could bribe your way out and then promote it with ads. There is a remote chance that XDA might not approve a bounty thread here (of illegal implications), but we could publish the website here and all other major forums (chinese forums as well).
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Dunno, since it's illegal, it may not be the best option to promote it. Obviously, it's still not immoral, but we all know that morality and law often do not converge, so it may be better to go rogue, talking in private with motoassist technicians and stuff like that, because, even if we're just fighting for our rights, we're still using non-legal ways, and risking to be sued for it.
I don't think promoting a website is illegal. What's illegal is hosting an illegal one.
Promoting a website who promises cash for employees of a corporation who leak internal software used by that corp. might be considered illegal in most places. Fortunately (or not, I'll explain why), we have jurisprudence to embase of: in september 1st, last year, a judge here in Brazil condemned Moto to update a customer's Dext/CLIQ to Android 2.1 (Moto did not provide this update here in Brazil, even though it did in many countries) without voiding the warranty.
I know it's just one case, in just one country, and updating an android version is way different than providing unlocked bootloaders (or the tools for users to do so). And, yes, I agree with placing a bounty at the tool. Yet, if we get caught, Moto can still argue that we had other ways to pursue our rights, and we should have used the justice system to do so, if we believed we were that right. Yet, they're a multimillion-worthy company (even bigger after being purchased by Google), and we're a bunch of broke users, at most devs making a couple thousand dollars, and would have little chance against their lawyers. Last, but not least, employers who help us may get caught and fired because of us, and I sincerely want nobody (ok, maybe a few of the highest executives) to get fired just for me to get an unlocked BL.
So, my point is: let's make this a stealth action. Get a reason for your phone to be taken to Motoassist (no intentional bricking, please! You must flash an official SBF before taking it there! - at least if your phone is still under warranty), get to talk with one of their technicians, and mention - indifferently - that some guys are giving alway big money for any Moto employee who leaks that TI OMAP software. Something like this: "hey, did you hear that crazy devs at this dev forum are paying the first moto technician to hand them some sort of software? Something OMAP-related, I don't know for sure. All I know is that the reward is some nice cash."
When the word spread, we could have an unlocked bootloader within a month.
Yet, we got a single issue to deal: how to ensure the person who gives us the SW first will actually receive the cash? I've seen a few bounties here before, but them all were settled by XDA devs (so the bounty keeper could just donate the sum to that dev), never saw something like paying "outsiders".
One of my friends (Defy+ user) has a contact with a Motorola service guy. He says that that guy knows everything about Motorola software and he's with us because he himself uses custom ROMs and controls an entire service center. He's ready to take my device under warranty though it's rooted along every single hack/MOD for Defy installed
Will try contacting him
And let's post this in the forums of all other locked Motorola devices with OMAP 3xxx chips.
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swapnil360 said:
One of my friends (Defy+ user) has a contact with a Motorola service guy. He says that that guy knows everything about Motorola software and he's with us because he himself uses custom ROMs and controls an entire service center. He's ready to take my device under warranty though it's rooted along every single hack/MOD for Defy installed
Will try contacting him
And let's post this in the forums of all other locked Motorola devices with OMAP 3xxx chips.
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Talk with this guy. If he has access to a copy of TI's SW, and handle it to us, I'm pretty sure we could him get a nice reward. Not as high as if putting a bounty, but definitely enough to make the effort worth it.
I mean, supposing that this is actually gonna help unlock EVERY OMAP 3 (and possibly all OMAP-based phones) out there, and that this way the process is reversible (at least to me, it looks like no eFuse is being blown there, you know, assistance technicians can't just blow eFuses like that - taking the phone to the assistance under warranty shouldn't void it, and that's what a blown eFuse would do), loads of people would help. Imagine a single dollar from every OMAP 3 XDA user (take a look here for an INCOMPLETE list of OMAP 3 devices with ~30 ANDROID ONLY phones/tablets), that would make a lot of money.
this is good....and i think it will be best to not mention the location,identities,or any hint of similarities of the perosn source once you guys get contacts & manifests from that guy(source). so as not to compromise his profession.
he could be fired & worse can be sued by leaking private details.
best discuss it in private,after getting in touch w/ him...
just a tought of CAUTION...
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this is good....and i think it will be best to not mention the location,identities,or any hint of similarities of the perosn source once you guys get contacts & manifests from that guy(source). so as not to compromise his profession.
he could be fired & worse can be sued by leaking private details.
best discuss it in private,after getting in touch w/ him...
just a tought of CAUTION...
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Yeah we would ensure him that.
I'll help u out....juzz tell me what to get from moto officials
hemil said:
I'll help u out....juzz tell me what to get from moto officials
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do u know motorola mobility service center in mbai?
we only hav private shops with motos certificate...
i dont think they can help...
all they say is we'll send it to factory(?)
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@hemil Please pm me.
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I'll help u out....juzz tell me what to get from moto officials
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Hey buddy... just wait for my call today...
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Putting up an ads offering money for violation the law may be a bit problematic. No website will be excited to host it. Another issue is that in the end someone will have to actually post it, someone in particular. And that one person will be in danger of being a subject of interest of various law enforcement agencies. You know, at the end of the day they always want someone to put the responsibility on, the culprit, a scapegoat. So you make heat and you put some particular person into it even before there is any result.
I would prefer to focus more on personal face to face private communications with the service guys. It's harder to prove and if something goes wrong (the guy records it etc.) our guy can always say he was just kidding, bullshitting, bigmouthing.
Anyway, if you are thinking about this seriously, here are few remarks.
don't offer the particular sum, it's not tactical; not even here should be mentioned any particular number; instead, let the service guy ask his price
if the first contact with a potential source is established, ask first for a proof; specify what the proof is supposed to be (a screenshot? a video recording of the software in action?)
figure out a way how to actually collect the money; people are willing to donate but they will not donate to anyone, only to someone trustworthy (but Epsylon will surely want to have nothing to do with everything even remotely questionable, let alone illegal); the "collector" will be under the lights, he may get attention of people we don't want to deal with
who actually will be allowed to donate? anyone? how to avoid an agent to donate and then simply track where the money is going?
figure out a way how to actually make a safe and smooth deal (money <-> software); will it be in person or electronically? how to verify we are given what we paid for? classical problem: no one of both parties is willing to make his move first, but we can't give away the money for a software we would start verifying not until the money is gone
figure out how to avoid being robbed (fake offers from people who would want to grab the money and run away) as well as being caught (fake offers from the dummy guy - LE agent); in both cases the correct proof might be given, though, but the intentions are wrong
For the particular mechanics of the exchange in person, one of numerous possible ways may go like this:
our guy comes with an intentionally bricked Defy repairable only with the software in question together with the ordinary USB cable (or without, if special USB cable is needed; in that case the cable must be part of the deal), and with an empty flash drive recognizable at the first sight; no money on him
our guy passes the flash drive and the Defy (and the USB cable, if no special cable is needed) to the "source" and watches closely
the source copies the software onto the flash drive, runs the software from the flash drive, connects the Defy via the cable provided and actually unbricks the phone (this must be more elaborated on; what if the software uses some libraries from the windows directories etc. which are not copied onto the flash drive? he may or may not have the installer, but just copying the installer isn't enough, he would have to copy the installer on the flash drive, then run the installer from it and install it back onto the flash drive and run it from there)
our guy gets the phone (and the cable) back, the source unplugs the flash drive and keeps it for now, our guy watches the flash drive is not connected to anything from now on
now the software is copied onto the flash drive and verified it's working, thus ordinary hand-to-hand exchange may proceed; our guy didn't bring the money to avoid being robbed, they both now may go grab the money or our guy may call his buddy with the money etc. (also needs to be heavily elaborated on)
Sensitive parts must be detailed in-depth, I am just indicating the outline, one of many possible. Still it's very far from perfect.
As you can see it's not that easy and there are many potential points of failure so this action may never really come to the practical realization.
What about a little bit different or alternative ways? Are there any? It would be useful to ask Epsylon what he would actually wish for the most - had he been able to wish for anything.
isn't it illegal to post copyrighted stuff and also its against forum rules..
i mean that if someone gets his hand on that super tool, then how can he shares it with us???
rishi2100 said:
isn't it illegal to post copyrighted stuff and also its against forum rules..
i mean that if someone gets his hand on that super tool, then how can he shares it with us???
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huh !! think about moto when they actually ditch us with promises ? whats wrong if what we are screaming for last 1 year . and didnt get any updates ? huh think about tht before u speak about illegal stuffs . if moto is doing all sought of ways to keep us away from our rights . what we do undercover to get us right can no way be questioned when we have told thousands of times that we need updates .
more over the authority can question us only and only when they are themselves self guilt free .... but instead they are pretending to be saint sitting behind the curtains and doing all sought of locking stuff to deprive us of our rights
@jhonsmithx Let's not get ahead of ourselves. First of all lets concentrate on getting the source. Also I urge users to use a bit of social engineering to do that(using fb/g ). We'll put together a plan according to the situation after that. Also note that this is a pretty long shot. We might not get a source after all.
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isn't it illegal to post copyrighted stuff and also its against forum rules..
i mean that if someone gets his hand on that super tool, then how can he shares it with us???
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I could think of atleast 10 ways to share anonymously. Though I wont be posting them here.
Hello friend I'm new to the forum and XDA seems to be the best place to find the education that we deserve and that we need.
In order to make my way through the world of devices I woula like to know some places where I can pay for somebody to unlock GSM devices for me. Such as iPhones, Samsungs, Etc, etc.
If somebody has even the less idea of a site where I can find what I'm looking for I would have no problem to invite a beer to him through PayPal.
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Hello friend I'm new to the forum and XDA seems to be the best place to find the education that we deserve and that we need.
In order to make my way through the world of devices I woula like to know some places where I can pay for somebody to unlock GSM devices for me. Such as iPhones, Samsungs, Etc, etc.
If somebody has even the less idea of a site where I can find what I'm looking for I would have no problem to invite a beer to him through PayPal.
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Just Google "Cell carrier unlock" and you will find MANY sites that offer such a service. :good:
Darth said:
Just Google "Cell carrier unlock" and you will find MANY sites that offer such a service. :good:
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Thanks Darth but i was looking for something more specific. You know, something that the guys who offer the service of unlocking are using. Kinda their source or something that tells me ow can I have my own unlocking server and also find how these one works.
I am a software developer in Windows. As a devI have to shout out against this self propogating fiscal scam called FunkyHuawei who is making a fortune out of FOSS. Android is Open Source , Free , and COMMUNITY based. As a long time dev the community prides itself on providing innovative solutions for the Free World that allow us to enhance our experience and grow the community. PLEASE do not pay FunkyHuawei for bootloader unlocks (which can be obtained other ways - you just need to spend time like we do figuring it out, learning, and developing your skills). PLEASE do not pay for firmware which should be free anyway. And PLEASE dont install software on your Windows machine using Admin when you do not know what you are installing. You have been warned. Outlets like FunkyHuawei are not community , they are not us. Devs enjoy what they do and if you want to contribute all the better, make a donation. But do not pay the stupid amounts of money to people making a fortune from FOSS
In the meantime, add your voice to those who are protesting with Huawei in the hope that they will rejoin the community and reverse their decision to remove free codes for unlockers like you. Only by adding your voice will you make a difference. Paying guys like FunkyHuawei stupid money like $50 for unlock is stupid ... your just creating a demand when instead we need to engage Huawei.
Thank you
Thumbs up.
People who buy those codes are not doing good to the community, its really a bad style.
Tweetytek said:
I am a software developer in Windows. As a devI have to shout out against this self propogating fiscal scam called FunkyHuawei who is making a fortune out of FOSS. Android is Open Source , Free , and COMMUNITY based. As a long time dev the community prides itself on providing innovative solutions for the Free World that allow us to enhance our experience and grow the community. PLEASE do not pay FunkyHuawei for bootloader unlocks (which can be obtained other ways - you just need to spend time like we do figuring it out, learning, and developing your skills). PLEASE do not pay for firmware which should be free anyway. And PLEASE dont install software on your Windows machine using Admin when you do not know what you are installing. You have been warned. Outlets like FunkyHuawei are not community , they are not us. Devs enjoy what they do and if you want to contribute all the better, make a donation. But do not pay the stupid amounts of money to people making a fortune from FOSS
In the meantime, add your voice to those who are protesting with Huawei in the hope that they will rejoin the community and reverse their decision to remove free codes for unlockers like you. Only by adding your voice will you make a difference. Paying guys like FunkyHuawei stupid money like $50 for unlock is stupid ... your just creating a demand when instead we need to engage Huawei.
Thank you
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I totally agree with you, paying $50 bucks, this is the first time i ever had to pay for the unlocker code, i already used samsung, motorola, xiaomi, none of them charged for the unlock code. For me isn't onle 50 bucks, is RS 200 + charges. I don't feel good spending this money like this, i prefer to donate to some one that really help the community.:good:
Is someone forcing you guys to use their service? I don't get it.
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Is someone forcing you guys to use their service? I don't get it.
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If you see something wrong. Let others know. XDA is a community.
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I prefer to pay XDA-Developers instead of FunkyHuawei. Please help them put some kind of service or some way to get the codes through donations. I would gladly donate
Unfortunately it doesnt work like this. If there is a demand there will be proposal.
I don't think that paying for unlocking Bootloader is right. But at this situation you should better ask Huawei, why did they make this happen?
Huawei is the only one to blame and next time before buying huawei phone, I'd think twice
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Unfortunately it doesnt work like this. If there is a demand there will be proposal.
I don't think that paying for unlocking Bootloader is right. But at this situation you should better ask Huawei, why did they make this happen?
Huawei is the only one to blame and next time before buying huawei phone, I'd think twice
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Exactly. The timing of this thread is also comical. At this point, even funky huawei cannot provide bootloader keys - at any cost. The bootloader unlock "service" is down/discontinued.
Also, the guy running Funky is an XDA member. (and was before it's existence) I agree that his prices are absurd, but it's not a service anyone else provides nor is it something you have to use - just wait for Huawei to (hopefully) push the update to your phone.
the only thing comical, is your response @Goronok
you clearly are devoid of intelligence and further, you fail to grasp what me and development devs do for fools like you.
SO DO NOT PAY THESE SCAMMERS
join the communuty...stop being comical!!
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the only thing comical, is your response @Goronok
you clearly are devoid of intelligence and further, you fail to grasp what me and development devs do for fools like you.
SO DO NOT PAY THESE SCAMMERS
join the communuty...stop being comical!!
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Clearly. What have you developed? And you consider your time free and never want to be paid for it? Get a grip.
Tweetytek said:
the only thing comical, is your response @Goronok
you clearly are devoid of intelligence and further, you fail to grasp what me and development devs do for fools like you.
SO DO NOT PAY THESE SCAMMERS
join the communuty...stop being comical!!
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Look at this guy, lost all respect for you for this comment. Xda have allowed funky to do what he does. Accept it, Goronok is correct, nobody is forcing you to use funky, if people are stupid using in your eyes, let them be. This has been discussed to death already
No need for your insults
Tweetytek said:
I am a software developer in Windows. As a devI have to shout out against this self propogating fiscal scam called FunkyHuawei who is making a fortune out of FOSS. Android is Open Source , Free , and COMMUNITY based. As a long time dev the community prides itself on providing innovative solutions for the Free World that allow us to enhance our experience and grow the community. PLEASE do not pay FunkyHuawei for bootloader unlocks (which can be obtained other ways - you just need to spend time like we do figuring it out, learning, and developing your skills). PLEASE do not pay for firmware which should be free anyway. And PLEASE dont install software on your Windows machine using Admin when you do not know what you are installing. You have been warned. Outlets like FunkyHuawei are not community , they are not us. Devs enjoy what they do and if you want to contribute all the better, make a donation. But do not pay the stupid amounts of money to people making a fortune from FOSS
In the meantime, add your voice to those who are protesting with Huawei in the hope that they will rejoin the community and reverse their decision to remove free codes for unlockers like you. Only by adding your voice will you make a difference. Paying guys like FunkyHuawei stupid money like $50 for unlock is stupid ... your just creating a demand when instead we need to engage Huawei.
Thank you
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I couldn't agree with this more if i tried. Funkyhuawei is a cancer to this community.
Tweetytek said:
I am a software developer in Windows. As a devI have to shout out against this self propogating fiscal scam called FunkyHuawei who is making a fortune out of FOSS. Android is Open Source , Free , and COMMUNITY based. As a long time dev the community prides itself on providing innovative solutions for the Free World that allow us to enhance our experience and grow the community. PLEASE do not pay FunkyHuawei for bootloader unlocks (which can be obtained other ways - you just need to spend time like we do figuring it out, learning, and developing your skills). PLEASE do not pay for firmware which should be free anyway. And PLEASE dont install software on your Windows machine using Admin when you do not know what you are installing. You have been warned. Outlets like FunkyHuawei are not community , they are not us. Devs enjoy what they do and if you want to contribute all the better, make a donation. But do not pay the stupid amounts of money to people making a fortune from FOSS
In the meantime, add your voice to those who are protesting with Huawei in the hope that they will rejoin the community and reverse their decision to remove free codes for unlockers like you. Only by adding your voice will you make a difference. Paying guys like FunkyHuawei stupid money like $50 for unlock is stupid ... your just creating a demand when instead we need to engage Huawei.
Thank you
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Agreed 100%.
I am sorry to hear it might be considered a cancer. I'm just a user (with only a little amount of understanding) that wants to put Nova Launcher on my EVR-AL00. I guess I'm being a tad selfish.
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I am a software developer in Windows. As a devI have to shout out against this self propogating fiscal scam called FunkyHuawei who is making a fortune out of FOSS. Android is Open Source , Free , and COMMUNITY based. As a long time dev the community prides itself on providing innovative solutions for the Free World that allow us to enhance our experience and grow the community. PLEASE do not pay FunkyHuawei for bootloader unlocks (which can be obtained other ways - you just need to spend time like we do figuring it out, learning, and developing your skills). PLEASE do not pay for firmware which should be free anyway. And PLEASE dont install software on your Windows machine using Admin when you do not know what you are installing. You have been warned. Outlets like FunkyHuawei are not community , they are not us. Devs enjoy what they do and if you want to contribute all the better, make a donation. But do not pay the stupid amounts of money to people making a fortune from FOSS
In the meantime, add your voice to those who are protesting with Huawei in the hope that they will rejoin the community and reverse their decision to remove free codes for unlockers like you. Only by adding your voice will you make a difference. Paying guys like FunkyHuawei stupid money like $50 for unlock is stupid ... your just creating a demand when instead we need to engage Huawei.
Thank you
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Thanks for your post brother!!! This is exactly what I have been shouting about in my other post, glad there are people on this earth who have same vision as me! Im suprised the mods did not ban you yet!! they have deleted some of my posts regarding funky! definitely there is some affiliation.
That being said, How can we obtain the codes for a lower price, perhaps even free, as it should be? I refuse to pay these 3d parties, not because of money, but out of principle. I'm a business owner, and even if I had an unlocker in my hands, I would not charge for it, I would release it in the public. Android is open and should stay open. Period.
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Thanks for your post brother!!! This is exactly what I have been shouting about in my other post, glad there are people on this earth who have same vision as me! Im suprised the mods did not ban you yet!! they have deleted some of my posts regarding funky! definitely there is some affiliation.
That being said, How can we obtain the codes for a lower price, perhaps even free, as it should be? I refuse to pay these 3d parties, not because of money, but out of principle. I'm a business owner, and even if I had an unlocker in my hands, I would not charge for it, I would release it in the public. Android is open and should stay open. Period.
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I do not know why XDA would remove some of your posts. I suppose if a post is against their forum policies in some way , i could accept that. But if there is indeed affiliation to paid services without express declaring such, then I would find that most alarming for a forum as huge as XDAdev and it would without doubt proceed to lose integrity and trust. I have not seen any evidence of affilation but that's just me. Objectively, as I say, there's no harm provided there is transparency and members are 100% aware that XDA are affiliated to this individual for whom I have the utmost contempt for becuase he is profiting from what is a FOSS community and doing so on the back of Huwaei corporate decisions which XDA are openly objecting to. Can't have it both ways !!
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I do not know why XDA would remove some of your posts. I suppose if a post is against their forum policies in some way , i could accept that. But if there is indeed affiliation to paid services without express declaring such, then I would find that most alarming for a forum as huge as XDAdev and it would without doubt proceed to lose integrity and trust. I have not seen any evidence of affilation but that's just me. Objectively, as I say, there's no harm provided there is transparency and members are 100% aware that XDA are affiliated to this individual for whom I have the utmost contempt for becuase he is profiting from what is a FOSS community and doing so on the back of Huwaei corporate decisions which XDA are openly objecting to. Can't have it both ways !!
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I posted something like why would you pay for such service in a funky thread, and my post got deleted. From that day I've made a statement in each post I made for the mods to stop deleting my posts. You can read back my older posts. It made me aware that something was going on this forum that was supposed to be free speach to help the open community..
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I am sorry to hear it might be considered a cancer. I'm just a user (with only a little amount of understanding) that wants to put Nova Launcher on my EVR-AL00. I guess I'm being a tad selfish.
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You can do that without the need for FH
freeza said:
You can do that without the need for FH
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I'm sorry mate. Seems beyond me. Tried today, I can't seem to get past the bootloader so. No code. No unlocked phone, So can't remove the APK using adb, right?
Or do I need to find earlier firmware before it was KOd...
This is starting to go into the too hard basket. I'm not in the tech industry.
I think it would be easy enough if I had the unlock code...... If Huawei are no longer giving them out, I mean how do I get it? Does seem to be interesting that the while of China closes down, the codes are no longer available though. I guess it points toward that it is more of a Guanxi thing than a coding thing, so...
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You can do that without the need for FH
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I am an idiot.
I did not need unlock. My problem was my dodgy work PC....... I have always used it, mostly successfully. Your name though, signifies being correct. So I went onto my MAc and tried again. OMG. It worked
I am now running NOVA sans the launcher.
Oh - I am so sorry for annoying people here.
On the plus side, I have saved my self coin once the CNY is over and unlock codes are being sold again.
sigh... I posted in multiple comments too. I guess I need to go apologiZe and edit in those ones too.
Thank you, Freeza,
Recently I came across this issue, since I just recently bought this phone. Usually I will root my phones as soon as I get them, by following the excellent guides in XDA here, but this time, I didn't do much research before getting this phone (Mate 20 X). Aside from this unlocking bootloader issue, I like this phone and I hand-picked this from my list of options because it ticked what I was looking for in my new purchase - big battery, IR and 3.5" audio jack. Plus the latest 7nm 980 Kirin processor is a nice hardware to have. (I had Mi Max 2 before, but had some issues.)
I don't intend to pay any 3rd party and pay prohibitively expensive money to unlock my phone. It's absurd how much they are ripping off the people and on the other hand, I'm surprised how much people are willing to throw money at these dubious sites. Now crossing 100++ USD!!?? What the....
Anyway, back to my question :
1. How do these sites get YOUR phone's codes? I'm sure they are not paying Huawei to get your codes. If not from Huawei, then how are they able to obtain the codes just by having the serial number and IMEI numbers?
2. I hope it's just a matter of time before XDA developers can find out how they do this so that this can be shared with the community so that we can continue unlocking like how we used to do before with other phones.
This is an enthusiast community, not some dumb people who are ready to throw money to some 3rd party hackers to get your codes.
And looking at the latest developments, most of these dubious sites have ceased providing the service....wonder why. Something's fishy here. And prices are shooting up, no doubt, fueled by so many people ready to throw money for them.
I am not a developer but always follow the guides written by excellent deveopers in XDA. It's fun and educational that way. We all have paid for the phones ourselves. Tinkering with our phones is our hobby.
I wish people won't rush to pay and get 3rd party questionable "unlockers" spoil the spirit of XDA.
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Recently I came across this issue since I just recently bought this phone. Usually, I will root my phones as soon as I get them, by following the excellent guides in XDA here, but this time, I didn't do much research before getting this phone (Mate 20 X). Aside from this unlocking bootloader issue, I like this phone and I hand-picked this from my list of options because it ticked what I was looking for in my new purchase - big battery, IR and 3.5" audio jack. Plus the latest 7nm 980 Kirin processor is a nice hardware to have. (I had Mi Max 2 before, but had some issues.)
I don't intend to pay any 3rd party and pay prohibitively expensive money to unlock my phone. It's absurd how much they are ripping off the people and on the other hand, I'm surprised how much people are willing to throw money at these dubious sites. Now crossing 100++ USD!!?? What the....
Anyway, back to my question :
1. How do these sites get YOUR phone's codes? I'm sure they are not paying Huawei to get your codes. If not from Huawei, then how are they able to obtain the codes just by having the serial number and IMEI numbers?
2. I hope it's just a matter of time before XDA developers can find out how they do this so that this can be shared with the community so that we can continue unlocking like how we used to do before with other phones.
This is an enthusiast community, not some dumb people who are ready to throw money to some 3rd party hackers to get your codes.
And looking at the latest developments, most of these dubious sites have ceased providing the service....wonder why. Something's fishy here. And prices are shooting up, no doubt, fueled by so many people ready to throw money for them.
I am not a developer but always follow the guides written by excellent deveopers in XDA. It's fun and educational that way. We all have paid for the phones ourselves. Tinkering with our phones is our hobby.
I wish people won't rush to pay and get 3rd party questionable "unlockers" spoil the spirit of XDA.
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I doubt that anybody can provide unlock code without inside information/certain servers approach. If that hadn't been true, xda would have the code a long time ago.
What raises two issues. The first one is why Huawei changed its policy regarding AL00 bootloader after it was already on the market. Huawei had known all implications of unlocked bootloader a long time ago, that is the reason why it had stopped providing codes for other models recently.
It could be assumed that Huawei lured buyers to went for this model because they believe that it is only with unlocked bootloader and it will stay that way. A lot of buyers had wanted an unlocked bootloader, otherwise, they would have taken the international model which required fairly less customization.
Locking bootloader out of the blue and then enabling trading it through middlemen for huge extra profits is at least unfair to the buyers.
And there could be more. Is it possible that sudden change toward locking bootloader arise from the temptation to control users? That stuff that is basically what US accused Huawei and what makes discomfort even in more countries?
Finally, there is one question for xda, too. Until recently xda was a synonym for a free exchange of knowledge, solutions, software. Basically, almost everything I know about Android, phones, hacking, I've got from xda. And if I have something to share, I do it with gratitude for everything I received and gained from this great community. But I'm not even important, my knowledge is basic. There are many devs with a massive contribution, whole solutions, modifications, entire systems. For free.
It's quite acceptable to make reference to paid solutions or stuff and to recommend it in the forum. As it was always acceptable presenting royalty-free solutions in the forum and offering more customizing one via Google Play or similar portals. Or asking for a donation. But selling pure commercial solutions for ripoff money for something that has been already paid to the phone producer is an entirely different story. It may turn this forum into a commercial portal. If one could gain huge profits for participation only due to his connection with the producer, what is the point to spend hours, days and weeks of hard work just to bring a perfect rom or solution to the community?
Then, perhaps we'd need another forum. For contributors instead of traders.
Bootloader codes can only be provided by Huawei. FunkyHuawei and other "sellers" likely had an inside source that was providing codes at a cost - these people likely lost their jobs which is why there are no codes available from any source. XDA has found ways to load custom recoveries on many devices in the past, but this was never by locating the bootloader unlock code, only by exploiting a security flaw.
Personally, I don't think this issue has anything to do with Huawei wanting to lock down users. (despite what they're telling us) I think they are scared of research firms finding evidence of Huawei stealing hardware/software from other manufacturers. I don't mean this as a dig on Huawei, I think Apple is guilty of this as well. Both guilty in stealing radio hardware design and software from Qualcomm.
Has anyone actually obtained an unlock code in the last few weeks? If so, for which version of Mate 20 X and how much did you pay?
It's simple guys, 2 options:
Either 1. Insider that gets very busy now because if the many requests since OEM unlock is available again in the new updates.. so price goes up.
Or 2. Someone has the algorithm to generate these codes based on IMEI.
Since the price has went up by 4x I think option one is more realistic, however I don't rule out option 2. Perhaps we can fix a bounty for a team that can look into a key generator?
https://theunlockingcompany.com
Seems to be advertising to unlock at 39.99 US. I am hesitant though not only because of the issue developers have with the ethics behind such a service, but becasue I am a bit of a newb. Once I give out my IMEI number, doesn't that put me at risk of ending up with a brick?
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https://theunlockingcompany.com
Seems to be advertising to unlock at 39.99 US. I am hesitant though not only because of the issue developers have with the ethics behind such a service, but becasue I am a bit of a newb. Once I give out my IMEI number, doesn't that put me at risk of ending up with a brick?
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I just bought it I hope to have the code in 12 hours
Kurocham said:
I just bought it I hope to have the code in 12 hours
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Wait ... I am now advertising for them. I thought the point of this thread was to not pay these companies. Although I am interested to know if your EVR-AL00 gets a code. I will be tempted
s327374 said:
https://theunlockingcompany.com
Seems to be advertising to unlock at 39.99 US. I am hesitant though not only because of the issue developers have with the ethics behind such a service, but becasue I am a bit of a newb. Once I give out my IMEI number, doesn't that put me at risk of ending up with a brick?
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Are you sure this company will give you code to unlock bootloader? Looks like what they do is unlock phone from carrier. For example, you buy a phone from AT&T and you want to use it on Tmobile but you can't because it is carrier locked.
Kurocham said:
I just bought it I hope to have the code in 12 hours
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You realize that this is the unlock code for the simcard Carrier right? That has nothing to do with bootloader unlock...
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I just bought it I hope to have the code in 12 hours
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mscion said:
Are you sure this company will give you code to unlock bootloader? Looks like what they do is unlock phone from carrier. For example, you buy a phone from AT&T and you want to use it on Tmobile but you can't because it is carrier locked.
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I am not sure - I just assumed that this would be for unlocking bootloader.... I guess we will know from Kurocham soon.
ilovepj said:
You realize that this is the unlock code for the simcard Carrier right? That has nothing to do with bootloader unlock...
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OMFG I DID NOT KNOW!!!!:crying::crying::crying::crying:
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OMFG I DID NOT KNOW!!!!:crying::crying::crying::crying:
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Sorry bro. I feel your pain. I am sorry for the accidental misdirection.