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When typing annoying.

When I type something on my text messages there is a screw up.
EX: If I text "i am going to store" and i dont hit space after store it sends the message but keeps the "store" in the message and if i hit send it will send "store" again by itself... I have to hit space since it recommends something and unless i hit the word it wont go away...
any suggestions?

Adding puntuation afterwards should clear it up, or tapping on the word, or maybe even hitting enter (although I don't know if that works!)

l3v5y said:
Adding puntuation afterwards should clear it up, or tapping on the word, or maybe even hitting enter (although I don't know if that works!)
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Thanks for the advice.
When I want to text and its quick I dont always use proper punctuation.
I really hope this windows device works out :/

Turn off word completion / suggestion ?

GlobalM3 said:
When I type something on my text messages there is a screw up.
EX: If I text "i am going to store" and i dont hit space after store it sends the message but keeps the "store" in the message and if i hit send it will send "store" again by itself... I have to hit space since it recommends something and unless i hit the word it wont go away...
any suggestions?
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If this is what I think it is, bring up one of the HTC keyboards and turn the switch on the ABC/T9 button onto ABC. That should disable it.
Yes, it is the most idiotic typing "aid" ever invented.

Turned off auto complete and auto suggest and still doesnt work!!! Did a soft reset! This is so stupid!
I will try the T9 thing.

T9 WORKED!!!
thank heaven!!
thanks allot guys

this has been driving me mad. i tried turning off word completion etc and that didnt help but this seems to have, thanks

yes it definitely fixed it for me. Great that was driving me mad.

Yes Kill xT9 Or Hit a Space at the end of every text.

GlobalM3 said:
Turned off auto complete and auto suggest and still doesnt work!!! Did a soft reset! This is so stupid! I will try the T9 thing.
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Turning off T9 did not help at all. I still get the black line at the bottom of the screen. The f*#$%#% thing still wants to suggest some very useful words for me! Any other ideas?

Did you follow the steps?
When you start typing a new sms bring out the virtual onscreen keyboard, press the arrow and choose Full QWERTY. In full QWERTY mode you should have a little button on the bottom left of the screen with "ABC T9" written on it. Press it and let the magic work.
Now press fn + Space and a menu appears. Check that it is indeed in ABC mode. If you want to be on the safe side go also into "T9 Settings" (on that menu) and kill (untick) everything. Or at least that's what I did.

Excellent, thanks. The black bottom bar from SMS editing was very annoying. Now it's gone, thanks.
New SMS message, FN+ Space and then check ABC.

Thx!
Thx! You were right. In fact FN + Space then choosing ABC instead of English really does work. That #$%#$% annoying black thing disappeared! Thx!

mr_Ray said:
If this is what I think it is, bring up one of the HTC keyboards and turn the switch on the ABC/T9 button onto ABC. That should disable it.
Yes, it is the most idiotic typing "aid" ever invented.
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Knew I'd find the answer to my problem here on XDA-devs! Just did a HR and somehow the ABC/T9 slider got into the T9 setting, causing all types of problems when typing. Thanks for the tip and now I'll know for next time!!!

i would actually like that, how do i get my phone to do that? i can make it happed when i switch from ABC to T9, but after sometime it switches back to ABS

? remap green button to speakerphone

I want to map the green "phone" ("send") button to work as speakerphone with long keypress when phone is used, but I can't find any info.
OTOH I notice most ROMs use long press for this button and map usually wireless managers, which would be fine if it would work that way only when phone is not in use (and 'restore' the speakerphone function for long press when phone is in use) but I have not seen such solution yet. Has anyone done/try this?

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I want to map the green "phone" ("send") button to work as speakerphone with long keypress when phone is used, but I can't find any info.
OTOH I notice most ROMs use long press for this button and map usually wireless managers, which would be fine if it would work that way only when phone is not in use (and 'restore' the speakerphone function for long press when phone is in use) but I have not seen such solution yet. Has anyone done/try this?
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Hi,
Deleting Long_Send.lnk might restore original function of long press send key sir,.
Hope it help,.
Regards

Unfortunately, I don't think you can have two different functions based on context. AdvancedConfig has an option to map pretty much anything to the long send.

Garmin said:
Hi,
Deleting Long_Send.lnk might restore original function of long press send key sir,.
Hope it help,.
Regards
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Thank you, Sir
blue_94_trooper said:
Unfortunately, I don't think you can have two different functions based on context. AdvancedConfig has an option to map pretty much anything to the long send.
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Well, I was thinking about something more complex than I can do myself, hence my post here.
Idea is to make a small applet which will switch the function of the button based on the processes running (or other ways to determine it) and assigning different shortcut to this button. I.e. when the phone is connected it will assign speakerphone to the "send - long press", when phone is not in use it would redirect "send - long press" to the wireless manager, if you know what I mean (sorry my english); so virtually mapping the "green" button to this app could achieve that, no?

intersted also in your send key LKP!!
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Thank you, Sir
Well, I was thinking about something more complex than I can do myself, hence my post here.
Idea is to make a small applet which will switch the function of the button based on the processes running (or other ways to determine it) and assigning different shortcut to this button. I.e. when the phone is connected it will assign speakerphone to the "send - long press", when phone is not in use it would redirect "send - long press" to the wireless manager, if you know what I mean (sorry my english); so virtually mapping the "green" button to this app could achieve that, no?
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Bump....
I also want exactly the same setup! Great minds think alike!
Your mention about the wireless manager sounds a handy idea also, and I am at present having to use a long keypress on the left hand hardware 'record' button. This is fine, but I also have it mapped to normal press = audio record. But want to use it for something else at some point.The more buttons free the better. To be able to have the sent button act on a long key press to work the speakerphone seems to me like something that should actually be in place by default. I mean, what better way to start the speakerphone!!
I do hope someone is able to shed some light on this, or you manage to pull it off yourself you can count me in to try the fix etc.
PS:: Would a MORT SCRIPT help in this situation I wonder? I am not familiar with MS but sure someone may know a way round it.
Regards
Nick-UK

Thanks for your kind support
I wrote about this year or more ago on another forum, but few responses I got were discouraging at best.
I think if we could do such "app", we could use it for all the buttons and change their "assignments" based on the currently running apps...
With scripts we can do things like rename "Long_Send.lnk" into "Long_Send.disabled" (for example) instantly, and rename it back to "Long_Send.lnk" when i.e. pressed again. But the problem is that I don't know how to "detect" and use it in the scripts what is currently running and discriminate between foreground and background processes that are currently running?
Because what if you have two (or more!) programs that are using the same button assignments but for different purposes and both are running in the same time? say you are on the phone talking - thus long_send is assigned to speakerphone, and you also run (for example) windows media player where you assigned same green button to fullscreen display? The scripts cannot tell which one is running in the foreground by themselves, and (in this example) holding green button could bring the WMP to fullscreen instead of turning on speakerphone. Beforewe use mortscript to "activate" apropiate script, we need to know which process was started last (so - per my example - we would know that the phone was last started and not the WMP, and mortscript would run "speakerphone script for green button" instead of "fullscreen wmp script for green button"... and there is another problem: the phone is always ON on our PocketPCs since boot, and it is running all the time in the background, so it will have to differentiate between phone being active and phone in the "waiting" state...). Apologies if I sound incomprejensible, I tried to make it clearer but I don't know is it less gibberish
to cut it short: I don't think it can be done with simple scripts. But of course I may be wrong.
In theory it should work this way:
1 Long_Send.lnk -> starts our "app"
2 "App" checks what program is currently running on the screen (in the forground, or last started etc)
3 "App" executes apropiate action assigned for this program (i.e. speakerphone for active phone call, or wireless manager for today screen, etc etc)
4 "App" releases/removes/disables the action from previous step and changes it back to the state it was before when the foreground program is closed (i.e. changes back long_send from assignment to speakerphone back to default once the phone call ended)
sounds simple, doesn't it?

Raphael hardware keys, remapping?

Has anyone come up with working solution for mapping hw keys?
I found this thread on Diamond, but no help:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=398280

I am using AEKMap to enable both latin/cyrillic input on my TP's hw keyboard. You may google it and give it a try.

There is no need for additional software, just follow this post and you'll get the answer. Worked for me.

Try AE Button Plus.
B.

I think you did not quite follow me here.
I dont mean to change layout of QWERTY, but hw-keys like "Back" and "Home" at front panel of TP.
This is becaus I find home and back quite useless and would much more prefer to have ALT+TAB (change program) and close program (REALLY close them, not leave running background as back seems to randomly do).

Taajuus said:
I think you did not quite follow me here.
I dont mean to change layout of QWERTY, but hw-keys like "Back" and "Home" at front panel of TP.
This is becaus I find home and back quite useless and would much more prefer to have ALT+TAB (change program) and close program (REALLY close them, not leave running background as back seems to randomly do).
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And that is EXACTLY what i also want to know....
The total lack of hardware-keys on this device is already disturbing enough, but being locked out of the option to remap any of them is truely horrid...
Anyone know of any reg-hacks maybe?

I've got Spb PocketPlus 4 installed btw, and it's got a button mapping function as well...
But when i go into the buttons map, some weird black icons appear with no name attached to it. Can anyone make anything of this? As you can see i've been able to map one thing only: the Spb close-button-contex-menu, which allows me to switch task KW-buttons only....
But this is not enough for me, i need ALT-TAB aswell and off course a VoiceCommand button.
And regrettably the Rapael doesn't have that many HW keys to start with...

I want also to use Home/Back buttons for different purposes,but I didn;t found a solution yet.

Gotten a step closer to what i really need over this weekend:
In the button dialogue (with extra generated buttons by Spb PP+4) there was only one other button that had a name...
So i tried this one and go figure: it seems to be the " <= " (or 'back') button. In the dialogue it's called the OK button. I've got it set to the close contaxt menu now, and mapped Voicecommand to long-pressed answer key...
So far, this setup is to my satisfaction, and after two months of use this phone finaly behaves completely the way i want it to...

Hi, guys.
See my post here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2743845#post2743845
Hope this helps!
Cheers.

helped realy much !!! big thx for that nice instructions

You're very welcome, tk_berlin.
You be sure to let me know if anything in there doesn't make sense or you need any help with it.
Cheers from Canada!

ah cool to see a reply that fast ,)
hmm u got any further with finding out how to set the home button and the backwards button ?
Since the other htc user ,) wrote
In the button dialogue (with extra generated buttons by Spb PP+4) there was only one other button that had a name...
So i tried this one and go figure: it seems to be the " <= " (or 'back') button. In the dialogue it's called the OK button. I've got it set to the close contaxt menu now, and mapped Voicecommand to long-pressed answer key...
so it works with SPB PocketPlus ?
there must be a way to get it work wit the other tool

ah cool to see a reply that fast ,)
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Lol. I was on my machine all morning and had XDA open in one of my tabs.
Yes, you can map practically any button in AEBPlus no problem.
hmm u got any further with finding out how to set the home button and the backwards button ?
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AEBP will also *learn* any keys it doesn't have. So you could use the "Add Button" option, press your Home key, and away you go.
The way I have it set up, holding down the phone key will activate voice command (default behavior).
But remember, assigning commands to the Home or OK buttons (that "Back" button is actually an "OK" button) doesn't unmap what they normally do so you will always go home first and then it will perform <x>-function that you assign.
Personally, I don't like to program the Home or OK buttons because I find that they are "trickier" to press. What I mean is, if you tap the OK button near it's center or close to the left, it doesn't register a press. If you tap it sort of with the long part of your thumb (which is more natural when holding the device in one hand), it registers it. I've tried this with two TP's now and the button behaved the same way on both. Due to this, I find it unreliable to map anything to it.
In any case, as I mentioned earlier, the Volume buttons, Phone and End keys will be unmapped once you attach AEBP to them but the others will not.
Oh -- I forgot to mention, you can map the directional pad as well if that is your thing.
so it works with SPB PocketPlus ?
there must be a way to get it work wit the other tool
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It does work, but it sends an OK command first.
I wrote a little utility for hard-coded buttons such as these for another Pocket PC I had (an ASUS P527) called "DoNothing.exe" but we can't apply that work-around here. What I would do is replace the EXEs of apps the hardware keys called with my DoNothing.exe, but in the case of the TP, we definitely don't want to replace START.EXE (which I believe to be the likely EXE (haven't tested this)).
If I find a way to map those buttons reliably, I will let you know, tk_Berlin. So far tho, I've been quite pleased with just using the four buttons I mentioned. The more I use this device and the more I ponder my decision to stay with TFL3D instead of the normal WM interface, the more I realize that I don't need half the add-ons I used to use prior to having TF3D. I am accustomed to very, very, very *heavily* customizing my device, but the setup I have now works great and I really haven't lost nething from my old WM world. In fact, prolly gained a few CPU cycles and memory to boot.
I don't miss the Today Screen at all!!! Now that I think about it, I never really looked at it.
Cya!

Closing program with hw-key, goddommit!

Im slowly going mad with Raphael, HTC didnt make this easy for me.
I only want simple things. Like, one hw-button on top panel of device, that really closes program. I mean REALLY, and EVERY TIME. Not casually, or just leave it hanging there on the background.
But no, this is a luxury I cant have. I always have to try to hit my big thumb into little X at right upper corner.
Lets have an example. Fire up File Explorer. Ok Im done with it and want to close program (by pressing nice and big hw-key, not aiming for small X). Options:
1. I press Home-button. I'm back at home screen and File Explorer running on background.
2. I press Back-button. I'm back at home screen and File Explorer running on background.
3. I press Endcall-button. I'm back at home screen and File Explorer running on background.
...Seriously, WTF??? Why do we have THREE hw-buttons in top panel of Raphael, that do exactly the same thing? And as far as I have observerd, there is no really good solutions yet for remapping these hw-keys.
All I want is:
1. Button that takes me back to Home-screen (obviously Home-button)
2. Button that changes from program to another (alt+tab, I could use Back-button for this)
3. Button that really closes program (obvious choise would be Endcall-button).
Goddommit.

The Back button is really the OK button from previous devices like the Hermes. I agree the Home button is probably useless, but I suppose it's a fast way to get to the Home screen when you're in a call, since pressing Hangup while you're in a call will... hangup the current call.
With all the RAM in the device, is there any reason to really close any apps?

AEBPlus can handle all of them,but the Back button not. Unfortunately the Home button can be handled,but after hitting it,it jumps to Todayscreen and makes the command defined in AEBPlus,so it is unusable. I want to use those 2 buttons for something different as well as some of the keys on keyboard(SMS to OK/Close). As I don't understant 3 buttons for same functions,I don't understand,why we have 2 hw-keys for entering the messaging on the keyboard.

Taajuus said:
All I want is:
1. Button that takes me back to Home-screen (obviously Home-button)
2. Button that changes from program to another (alt+tab, I could use Back-button for this)
3. Button that really closes program (obvious choise would be Endcall-button).
Goddommit.
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Now that would be perfect in my eyes

[Q] got any pro tips for selecting text?

I find selecting and copying text very difficult.
For example, from calendar. Which by the way I have to "edit" because you can't dial a phone number from a calendar. ( Seriously google are you just kidding around with that by the way? )
Mainly the selecting part.
I find this impossible to do easily, takes multiple tries because of not getting the cursor positions right, and I don't think it's just me.
Here is my workflow. Can anyone see what I am doing wrong?
1. First, the keyboard takes up half the screen so now I'm left with only about 5 lines of text so I have to scroll around the meeting text entry to field to find the text I want to select. ( If I hide the keyboard with downswipe or other method it does not come back! )
2. When you find the text you want say a phone number 1-752-555-5234 I try to touch immediately before the 1, but as soon as I touch the screen, the entire field scrolls to the bottom.
3. Now I have to repeat step 1
4. I seem to have to do steps 1 to 3 twice for some reason (not kidding) it does not seem to give me the vertical cursor hairline (calling it a hairs width thickness is being generous ) the first time.
5. Now, I will have the cursor correctly at 1. Because if I am one digit off, I have to repeat steps 1 through 4 until I get it correctly positioned.
6. Now, long press on screen, choose select text.
7. Now repeat steps 1, 3 and 4 (skipping 2) until get the cursor at the correct ending position.
8. Once this is done, which for me can take up to several minutes to do, I can easily copy and paste the text.
If you've used an iPhone or even Windows Mobile 6.x you know how hard it is to understand that google failed so miserably at this.

bwolmarans said:
I find selecting and copying text very difficult.
For example, from calendar. Which by the way I have to "edit" because you can't dial a phone number from a calendar. ( Seriously google are you just kidding around with that by the way? )
Mainly the selecting part.
I find this impossible to do easily, takes multiple tries because of not getting the cursor positions right, and I don't think it's just me.
Here is my workflow. Can anyone see what I am doing wrong?
1. First, the keyboard takes up half the screen so now I'm left with only about 5 lines of text so I have to scroll around the meeting text entry to field to find the text I want to select. ( If I hide the keyboard with downswipe or other method it does not come back! )
2. When you find the text you want say a phone number 1-752-555-5234 I try to touch immediately before the 1, but as soon as I touch the screen, the entire field scrolls to the bottom.
3. Now I have to repeat step 1
4. I seem to have to do steps 1 to 3 twice for some reason (not kidding) it does not seem to give me the vertical cursor hairline (calling it a hairs width thickness is being generous ) the first time.
5. Now, I will have the cursor correctly at 1. Because if I am one digit off, I have to repeat steps 1 through 4 until I get it correctly positioned.
6. Now, long press on screen, choose select text.
7. Now repeat steps 1, 3 and 4 (skipping 2) until get the cursor at the correct ending position.
8. Once this is done, which for me can take up to several minutes to do, I can easily copy and paste the text.
If you've used an iPhone or even Windows Mobile 6.x you know how hard it is to understand that google failed so miserably at this.
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While I admit copying/pasting does not seem particularly easy on our phones, the Calendar app we have is NOT the stock Android one so you should actually aim your criticism at Samsung. Same with the Messaging app (Samsung's work, not Google's). I'm slightly more used to the iPhone long press technique and it's magnifying glass technique, but I'm sure it's something they'll (they being Samsung) will attempt to improve

if you are using the Samsung keboard. Long press the 123? key, that will take you to an editing menu.

cesierra said:
if you are using the Samsung keboard. Long press the 123? key, that will take you to an editing menu.
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This works on the swype keyboard as well; swipe your finger to the right from the info button to the SYM button and it brings up a selection keyboard. Very useful
-deuX`

cesierra said:
if you are using the Samsung keboard. Long press the 123? key, that will take you to an editing menu.
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And your point is? Have you ever tried selecting test with that? Clearly not.
EDIT: My Bad. THANK YOU, Cesierra.
With a little practice that works great. For those who are curious, it works. It positions the cursor start position at the bottom of the calendar entry. From there you can up-arrow to position the cursor exactly where you want, then selection is easy. A very good kludge as kludges go, I am impressed.

you are welcome

Thank you cesierra/deuX!

I learned something new here.
I really like it when someones first post is a helpful one

deuX` said:
This works on the swype keyboard as well; swipe your finger to the right from the info button to the SYM button and it brings up a selection keyboard. Very useful
-deuX`
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Cool thanks for sharing... never knew that!