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Folks, any idea how to switch off the screen / lock the keyboard without the need of double press the red power button?
This is kind of bothering cause when you're in a application and need quickly to put your Treo into your pocket, you need to press 1st to get to the home-screen and 2nd to switch off.

Yeah, seems to be something new with the 750 (no other treo before did this). Palm set this up purposely, so I wouldn't assume there's a workaround for it. You'll get used to double clicking

Not that I know
I have used it for ages and found many shortcuts but no "quick lock".
Sorry

How about getting an application that device locks your phone upon return from standby? I use BatteryStatus Today Plugin by Chi Tai Dang.. This plugin has the option to lock device on wakeup and set cpu speed(I use this a lot)..
But mine's a wizard, what do I know about Treo.. but what I do now is, press the power button to get the phone to go into standby and when I want to use it again, I press the power button and it will device lock upon wake up.

I don't have a Treo. How do you initiate said keyboard lock normally?
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vijay555 said:
I don't have a Treo. How do you initiate said keyboard lock normally?
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"Device lock" that you may know of isn't used on Treo's. Palm uses their own "keyguard," which uses the red END button as a power button when not on the phone. If you are on the today screen, one click will shut the device off. However, if you are in another program, the first tap brings you to the today screen, and the second click turns the screen off (and the keyguard on if you have selected it to be that way). On all other treo's, WM or POS, one click of the end button would shut the screen off (unless you were on the phone obviously, it would be the END function), regardless of what program you were in. Palm changed this, I assume, to be like most cell phones, where when you press the END key it returns to the home screen, regardless of what you were doing. Like a RAZR would do.
Thats the best way I can explain it. You would be surprised Vijay on how many customizations Palm made to the OS.

Yes, I've heard that they did - thank Goodness one of the OEMs finally saw fit to do something original.
Hmm.. from what you describe, clicking twice doesn't seem like a very big chore... I did something similar in VJOkButt. Is it really necessary to convert the 2 clicks to 1 click? Investigating it barely seems worth the effort
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I agree, hence my original post.
When you are on the today screen, it works normally. And you can double-click quite rapidly and it will work. Not a big deal for me.

yes guys, its not that dramatical, but still, it would be an improvement also considering that I want to stay in that one application (a note which I'm editing) and want to get there after waking up the device again without the need of again starting application, look for the last note, opening etc...
with HTC hermes and others the power button works exactly like this and its even better.

Hi all,
If you're using it two handed hold option (the white key, left hand end of row 3) and press the red button once - closes the app and powers off.
But you need an odd-shaped hand to do that one handed!

It is not that the double click isn't easy to do, it's waht fire00 said; if you are in an app, it closes it and then powers off. Case in point, this weekend while driving to a friend's house, I had directions in my email and would have liked to have turned off the phone, but then I would have to find the email again and open it up. On my Wizard, i would just turn it off and then back on and the email would be there for me.
Gotta be a reg hack for someone to find.

mackangus said:
If you're using it two handed hold option (the white key, left hand end of row 3) and press the red button once - closes the app and powers off.
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On my device, that method doesn't close the app. It just locks the keyboard and then powers off. When I power on again, the app is still running and on screen. I think that's what fire00 was looking for.

pjcace said:
It is not that the double click isn't easy to do, it's waht fire00 said; if you are in an app, it closes it and then powers off. Case in point, this weekend while driving to a friend's house, I had directions in my email and would have liked to have turned off the phone, but then I would have to find the email again and open it up. On my Wizard, i would just turn it off and then back on and the email would be there for me.
Gotta be a reg hack for someone to find.
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Sorry PJC ACE, my mis-type - using option + red button powers the device off WITHOUT closing the app - just like the power button on the Wizard ;-)
My apologies!

GUYS YOU'RE ABSOLUTE TREO-EXPERTS !!!!!
thanks a lot, going to dance with the Treo cause I'm so haaapyyy !! )))

fire00 said:
GUYS YOU'RE ABSOLUTE TREO-EXPERTS !!!!!
thanks a lot, going to dance with the Treo cause I'm so haaapyyy !! )))
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Option (hold)+Red Phone button is a nice alternative, but I'd really like to find a way to prevent the Red Phone from reverting to the Today screen, so I can power off directly with it with one press...Vodafone's excuse for specifically asking for it this way (every other phone's "End" button brings you back to the "home" screen) is ridiculous, these aren't like every other phone.

I installed HTC home plugin and now my red button wont let me go into standby. I uninstalled and still not working. Any ideas?

Side Button + Suspend
There is a thread at TreoCentral that explaines how to activate the side button and make it available for button assignment in the settings screen.
Second there is a small program called suspend.
I have mapped the 1 press of the side button to suspend and away we go.
1 - Click keyguards/screen off.
Also it resume in the place or program you left when you unlock it.
Regards

Raphael hardware keys, remapping?

Has anyone come up with working solution for mapping hw keys?
I found this thread on Diamond, but no help:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=398280

I am using AEKMap to enable both latin/cyrillic input on my TP's hw keyboard. You may google it and give it a try.

There is no need for additional software, just follow this post and you'll get the answer. Worked for me.

Try AE Button Plus.
B.

I think you did not quite follow me here.
I dont mean to change layout of QWERTY, but hw-keys like "Back" and "Home" at front panel of TP.
This is becaus I find home and back quite useless and would much more prefer to have ALT+TAB (change program) and close program (REALLY close them, not leave running background as back seems to randomly do).

Taajuus said:
I think you did not quite follow me here.
I dont mean to change layout of QWERTY, but hw-keys like "Back" and "Home" at front panel of TP.
This is becaus I find home and back quite useless and would much more prefer to have ALT+TAB (change program) and close program (REALLY close them, not leave running background as back seems to randomly do).
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And that is EXACTLY what i also want to know....
The total lack of hardware-keys on this device is already disturbing enough, but being locked out of the option to remap any of them is truely horrid...
Anyone know of any reg-hacks maybe?

I've got Spb PocketPlus 4 installed btw, and it's got a button mapping function as well...
But when i go into the buttons map, some weird black icons appear with no name attached to it. Can anyone make anything of this? As you can see i've been able to map one thing only: the Spb close-button-contex-menu, which allows me to switch task KW-buttons only....
But this is not enough for me, i need ALT-TAB aswell and off course a VoiceCommand button.
And regrettably the Rapael doesn't have that many HW keys to start with...

I want also to use Home/Back buttons for different purposes,but I didn;t found a solution yet.

Gotten a step closer to what i really need over this weekend:
In the button dialogue (with extra generated buttons by Spb PP+4) there was only one other button that had a name...
So i tried this one and go figure: it seems to be the " <= " (or 'back') button. In the dialogue it's called the OK button. I've got it set to the close contaxt menu now, and mapped Voicecommand to long-pressed answer key...
So far, this setup is to my satisfaction, and after two months of use this phone finaly behaves completely the way i want it to...

Hi, guys.
See my post here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2743845#post2743845
Hope this helps!
Cheers.

helped realy much !!! big thx for that nice instructions

You're very welcome, tk_berlin.
You be sure to let me know if anything in there doesn't make sense or you need any help with it.
Cheers from Canada!

ah cool to see a reply that fast ,)
hmm u got any further with finding out how to set the home button and the backwards button ?
Since the other htc user ,) wrote
In the button dialogue (with extra generated buttons by Spb PP+4) there was only one other button that had a name...
So i tried this one and go figure: it seems to be the " <= " (or 'back') button. In the dialogue it's called the OK button. I've got it set to the close contaxt menu now, and mapped Voicecommand to long-pressed answer key...
so it works with SPB PocketPlus ?
there must be a way to get it work wit the other tool

ah cool to see a reply that fast ,)
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Lol. I was on my machine all morning and had XDA open in one of my tabs.
Yes, you can map practically any button in AEBPlus no problem.
hmm u got any further with finding out how to set the home button and the backwards button ?
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AEBP will also *learn* any keys it doesn't have. So you could use the "Add Button" option, press your Home key, and away you go.
The way I have it set up, holding down the phone key will activate voice command (default behavior).
But remember, assigning commands to the Home or OK buttons (that "Back" button is actually an "OK" button) doesn't unmap what they normally do so you will always go home first and then it will perform <x>-function that you assign.
Personally, I don't like to program the Home or OK buttons because I find that they are "trickier" to press. What I mean is, if you tap the OK button near it's center or close to the left, it doesn't register a press. If you tap it sort of with the long part of your thumb (which is more natural when holding the device in one hand), it registers it. I've tried this with two TP's now and the button behaved the same way on both. Due to this, I find it unreliable to map anything to it.
In any case, as I mentioned earlier, the Volume buttons, Phone and End keys will be unmapped once you attach AEBP to them but the others will not.
Oh -- I forgot to mention, you can map the directional pad as well if that is your thing.
so it works with SPB PocketPlus ?
there must be a way to get it work wit the other tool
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It does work, but it sends an OK command first.
I wrote a little utility for hard-coded buttons such as these for another Pocket PC I had (an ASUS P527) called "DoNothing.exe" but we can't apply that work-around here. What I would do is replace the EXEs of apps the hardware keys called with my DoNothing.exe, but in the case of the TP, we definitely don't want to replace START.EXE (which I believe to be the likely EXE (haven't tested this)).
If I find a way to map those buttons reliably, I will let you know, tk_Berlin. So far tho, I've been quite pleased with just using the four buttons I mentioned. The more I use this device and the more I ponder my decision to stay with TFL3D instead of the normal WM interface, the more I realize that I don't need half the add-ons I used to use prior to having TF3D. I am accustomed to very, very, very *heavily* customizing my device, but the setup I have now works great and I really haven't lost nething from my old WM world. In fact, prolly gained a few CPU cycles and memory to boot.
I don't miss the Today Screen at all!!! Now that I think about it, I never really looked at it.
Cya!

Re-map Home and Back to SoftKeys

I'm using Butler [ http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=464611 ] to use the extra functionality of the hardware keys ... the only thing missing for me now is the possibility to use the 2 top buttons of the touch pro [Home and Back] for the left and right softkey (that's the only thing I miss from the kaiser). Any ideas how to do it without AEB ?
And is there a program you can launch to go to the today screen?

I'd be interested in this also. Thus far Da_G's latest roms have been able to reprogram every button except volume, home, and back keys.
Unfortunately the Volume, Home, and Back keys give me the most trouble. I always keep my phone on vibrate and I never use the Home/Back buttons. Even a good way to simply disable these keys would be a start. I'd much rather be able to use my dpad without ending up at the today screen.
Although someone said they used AEB to remap the Home/Back buttons to ONLY function on a double tap.

i was just thinking about this. i noticed i could change long press for send and end as soft keys. not enough buttons on the device you know.

I also would love to be able to reprogram the home and back keys to be the left and right softkeys. There has to be some way to do it...

I did some more searching on this topic. Try DredSensor. It works for me so far.
drcursor said:
I'm using Butler [ http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=464611 ] to use the extra functionality of the hardware keys ... the only thing missing for me now is the possibility to use the 2 top buttons of the touch pro [Home and Back] for the left and right softkey (that's the only thing I miss from the kaiser). Any ideas how to do it without AEB ?
And is there a program you can launch to go to the today screen?
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If we can get the home, back button, set as left and right softkeys as well as set pressing the center button in as OK button then i would have zero complaints about my att fuze. Sometimes i turn my tilt back on just to use programs such as opera mini, life is so much easier with softkeys!

DarrenUtd said:
I also would love to be able to reprogram the home and back keys to be the left and right softkeys. There has to be some way to do it...
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Yes im sure everyone is aware of dredsensor which is what i have to use when running opera mini on my fuze. What we are talking about is setting the home and back button as softkeys for good for all apps by default and also having the center button as OK as well. Do we really need a home and back button anyways? I mean we have touch screen phones, i can drag my thumb to get to home screen and press the center button to go back if set to OK button.

No we don't need an Home and Back button. The home button works the exact same as the End key. The back button is iffy. While I don't use it much, I'm sure "some" people do. There are the occasional situations when the back button is useful.
If you make the Center button "Close/Ok", then you won't have a select button. What WOULD work is set the center button to default, but do an "Close/Ok" on Center Hold.
I wish we had all the buttons unlocked to do what we wish. Using Home/Back as softkeys aren't a big deal to me, BUT being able to at least disable them or remap them in games would be sweet. (yes I know about DredSensor... I'm talking about permanent).
Another thing I am aiming for is a "virtual D-pad" using the touch pad area around the center button. Allowing us to navigate simply by making contact to the "hotspots". This would at least fix the problem with using the Dpad in games without ending up at the today screen.
If we could offload the navigational functions to the touchpad... then we could remap the buttons up/down to launch programs or whatever (left and right too).
So Pressing the buttons on the touchpad could launch apps or be used as softkeys or whatever but touching the touchpad would navigate.
Here is the thread; http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=473023

The last couple of posts have been playing down my earlier suggestion to use dredsensor to remap the home and back buttons to be the left and right softkeys (the topic of this thread). I'm not affiliated with dredsensor in any way, but I wanted to clear up this issue.
Since version 1.1 was posted on 1/17, you can in fact remap the buttons as stated above. In your config.ini file, for the [Default] profile with WindowTitle=* and ClassName=*, you have the entries:
HardKey_Launch1=Key:SoftKey1​and
HardKey_Launch3=Key:SoftKey2​
I'm not sure what you guys mean by "permanent" or "for good for all apps by default", but with this configuration these rules should apply in any app, which would seem to be what you want. I've been using this for a few days now and it works for me in the applications I've used. Anyway, it's just a suggestion. Maybe give it a try and I hope it helps.

i followed your suggestion..but i find the behavior erratic..sometimes it looks like it just goes to sleep and the keys are back to normal, and then out of nowhere starts to run again :\

drcursor said:
i followed your suggestion..but i find the behavior erratic..sometimes it looks like it just goes to sleep and the keys are back to normal, and then out of nowhere starts to run again :\
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From what I've read, there could be problems if you have G-Scroll installed, or maybe on some specific ROMs. Maybe post the issues you are having so that the developer can fix it in the next version.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=472280&page=2

WM 6.5 new UI - app close and task manager.

I've tried a bunch of new 6.5 UI roms and I am facing this problem with all of them.
1. The OK button (bottom right) does not close applications. It simply minimizes them. This is really frustrating since I dont know what apps are open until i pull up the task manager. This also drains battery life. How do i make the OK button close an app? (detailed instructions appreciated)
2. The earlier UI used to have a quick task manager on the top right corner from which we could switch apps and close them. that doesnt come anymore, instead i get this new and useless notification bar. How do i make it show the quick task manager? (detailed instructions appreciated)
The above 2 make it really annoying to switch/close apps because once u minimize, the only way to go back to them it seems is to pull up dot fred task manager.
3. Pressing the home button on the device while running an app (the home iconed hardware button under the screen) takes me to the opened start menu not the home screen. when i exit out of the start menu it takes me back to the app, so i cannot access my homescreen unless i press ok on the app and minimize it, is there any way to make the hom button take me to the homescreen?
Thank you in advance?

1 & 2 : use showcase : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=4030896
3 : use end button instead of home (which is an HTC non-sense, get the start menu like your rom is configured is really a better idea)

fantastic app - showcase. that solves my task manager problem, but i still have to press start, go to apps and press showcase to bring it up, can i have it mapped on the notification area so i can simply fire it up without having to go to the start menu?
thanks.

I have been having issues with Showcase not wanting to install or run properly on the newest 6.5 build 23071. If I load v1.0.1 It will work for the most part and I can configure it to still to close a program by clicking on the clock.. How ever when I switch to the newer 1.1.0 build I can not get the lower X to close thing like it should by either holding it or by setting to single tap.
I'm currently doing a hard reset because of trying taskfacade and trying to go back to Showcase.

i just installed 1.1.0 and it seems to be working fine. i even managed to figure out how to bring it up from any app. just tap and hold the win key and it comes up. very nice software.

Ya I have it back up and working. The only other issue to look forward to with Showcase is that some report it closing tmail.exe from time to time. I also map my PTT short press to open it for those programs that take the full screen and do not have the Windows icon.

You can also check out AEButton+. You have to pay for it, but it's pretty cheap. I got it last week, and have no idea why I didn't get it sooner. Haven't tried it on the newer com3 builds yet (still using com2), but I'm pretty sure it will close things. It isn't tied into the displaced 'X' button like a lot of task managers. You can close apps with a button push, and it also has a nice little task manager pop-up that you can also map to a button push (similar to the htc quick menu). You also get ~dozen more mappable button pushes on a fuze. It's really worth it, although I haven't tried a com3/4 6.5 build yet.

Newer WM6.5.1 builds such as 23071... clicking on the clock brings up the new drop down taskbar...
Running HTC Task Manager, you have to tap and hold, then release to get the task manager to shop up. Does Showcase experience this as well?
It seems to be with the new builds. I would assume Showcase would function the same.

Why don't you people just use inbuilt taskmanager.exe from Windows folder? I've configured it to open with long press "send" key (talk button), and it's working great.

I use aebutton and tie it to my Ok/Back key to close apps and it's working like a treat. that's the best way to really close apps I feel

i have a custom winmo 6.5 rom aslo, everything runs good on it, except the onscreen keyboard is useless now, all i can seem to enter are numbers only and i have messed with the input settings to see if that can correct it and so far to no avail or maybe im just one of the weird people who actualy use the onscreen compact qwerty i dunno.

Close current running app and go to home menu

Hi all,
I am looking for the following function:
when pressing the home button, close current app and go to the home screen. When pressing long on the home button, go to the home screen (not closing the app in front)
Any ideas/suggestions?
Tnx

oh the xphrone style home button i see
yes it would be great and I want something like this too.
hopefully some devs can do this but it wont be easy since it is not easy tho replace the home button to another shortcut as it directly hits the system file without detouring. (correct me if im wrong, or this looks confusing cause im half asleep)
cheers

ClementNg23 said:
oh the xphrone style home button i see
yes it would be great and I want something like this too.
hopefully some devs can do this but it wont be easy since it is not easy tho replace the home button to another shortcut as it directly hits the system file without detouring. (correct me if im wrong, or this looks confusing cause im half asleep)
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Well, I don't know the xphrone, but it is something like the iPhone that I mean. The reason is that I open a lot of apps, and always go to the home screen. This means that a lot of apps are open?
So this needs a continuously checking of tasks running. So if you could close the app while going home, this should not be any worries.
I know a lot of people will now say, that the multitasking is gone this way, but if you want an app to stay open, you can still do it by long pressing the home button