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Tilt Was bricked..any ideas as to unbricking?

hey Guyz. I have a Tilt that a customer gave me that got bricked while trying to flash one of dutty's roms...Problem is that the genius didn't load up Hard SPL even tho he told me that he did...now He wants me to fix it...even tho he didn't follow my instructions and read the WiKi...I kno that on the Hermes it was able to be unbricked. Is the same for the Kaiser possible? I would greatly appreciate your help as my customers are loving the work you guyz do here in nyc..
Thanks in Advance!
Cristian

What is the current status of the phone?
Can you get into the bootloader at all?
If you can get to the bootloader you should be able to load the AT&T AKU v0.4.4 ROM (the unoffical upgraded AT&T ROM). Once you get that loaded you should flash HardSPL immediately.
Let me know how it goes...
Cheers.

I bricked my tilt when it was less than 24 hours old... I recovered it with a BETA of the ATT rom and THEN redoing the hardspl thingy - worked a treat.
Do a search for tolt bricked and you should find afew threads for it.
The rom is called something like RUU_Kaiser_ATT_WWE....._Internal.exe

It goes to the Tri-Color Screen but stays there..I'll go ahead and research it so I can find the original AT&T and load it up...It shows a lot..workin for at&t and being a member on xda...U guyz have no idea how ya make life easier for my tilt customers b/c at&t truly dropped the ball on the rom...and by offering alternatives..u make the user experience so much better...thanks!

HTCFAN0923 said:
It goes to the Tri-Color Screen but stays there..I'll go ahead and research it so I can find the original AT&T and load it up...It shows a lot..workin for at&t and being a member on xda...U guyz have no idea how ya make life easier for my tilt customers b/c at&t truly dropped the ball on the rom...and by offering alternatives..u make the user experience so much better...thanks!
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If you are at the bootloader screen (Tri-Color) then the phone is not bricked. In the sticky at the top on how to revert back for warranty replacement, it has links for the various roms. Just flash an official AT&T rom on it and you should be good to go. Then do the HardSPL.
Cool that you work for AT&T and hang out here! If you have any other warranty returns, I can give you my address as I wouldn't mind having a backup or two...
BTW: The AT&T ROM for the Tilt is actually quite good in the big picture of things. At least the phone is usable (slower than it should be and less memory than it should have, but its still very usable and stable on the official rom). If you want to ***** about official roms, go back to the 8125 and its official rom. The while the device (at the time) was great, that rom made the phone almost worthless (super slow, battery problems, bad radio, dropped calls, freezing, etc). I can't tell you how many people that run custom roms on the Wizard just can't believe what that phone is actually capable of.
Ok, sorry, got off topic there...

does Hard-SPL needs to be flashed just once on a device or does it need to be installed every tome a new ROM is going to be Flashed onto it?

mfrazzz said:
If you are at the bootloader screen (Tri-Color) then the phone is not bricked. In the sticky at the top on how to revert back for warranty replacement, it has links for the various roms. Just flash an official AT&T rom on it and you should be good to go. Then do the HardSPL.
Cool that you work for AT&T and hang out here! If you have any other warranty returns, I can give you my address as I wouldn't mind having a backup or two...
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For some reason, it's not being recognized by my Activesync. I got it to recognize it but now it sayz Error 294: Invalid Vendor ID...I'm using the RUU_Cingular_WWE Rom for the Kaiser...so I'm flabbergasted at this point...

Quick Silver said:
does Hard-SPL needs to be flashed just once on a device or does it need to be installed every tome a new ROM is going to be Flashed onto it?
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Only once! Than you can flash as much as you like!

HTCFAN0923 said:
For some reason, it's not being recognized by my Activesync. I got it to recognize it but now it sayz Error 294: Invalid Vendor ID...I'm using the RUU_Cingular_WWE Rom for the Kaiser...so I'm flabbergasted at this point...
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ActiveSync will not recognize your device when in BootLoader mode!
The Vendor ID error means the ROM cannot be loaded on the Tilt without HardSPL. You need an original Tilt ROM. (That's what I think about this)

HTCFAN0923 said:
It goes to the Tri-Color Screen but stays there..I'll go ahead and research it so I can find the original AT&T and load it up...It shows a lot..workin for at&t and being a member on xda...U guyz have no idea how ya make life easier for my tilt customers b/c at&t truly dropped the ball on the rom...and by offering alternatives..u make the user experience so much better...thanks!
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Oddly enough the "Original" Tilt ROM will not install on a Tilt that does not already have HardSPL on it (to spell it out for you, the CID of the ROM does not match the Tilt's stock SPL). If you check the "reverting back" sticky you'll find all this info already, though it is deep in the thread.
The AKU v.0.4.4 ATT Beta ROM does have the correct CID and will flash on a stock Tilt. SO that is what you are forced to resort to at this point. Once you get the beta ROM installed you can (and probably should) install HardSPL.
After all that, if you decide you want to return or warranty the phone follow the "revert" thread to restore it to "stock" form.
Some additional notes on your problem...
ActiveSync will not connect in Bootloader mode (this is expected). You should see a device show up in Device Manager however, I can't recall the exact description however.
quick flash procedure:
put phone in bootloader
connect usb cable
install ROM
FYI, the problem may not be a bricked tilt... you could try Pof's fix which involves using MTTY.exe to boot the phone, depending on how your "customer" tried to flash it it may just need a kick in the pants to restore it. (search Pof's SSPL for the Kaiser thread for instructions, the thread was closed so you will have to look deep).
<climbing on my soapbox>
Lastly... your use of the word "customer" concerns me... are you charging people for the work you do to their phones? If so, do you donate to the people who make it possible? I'm probably just misunderstanding you, but if you're profiting from others work, perhaps you should contribute (especially if you're coming here to ask for help).
</climbing down>
Good Luck!
Cheers.

Customers as in I work for an AT&T corporate owned Retail location and they have bought Tilts from me. They kno my Tilt has been modded and they usually want to do the same. I don't charge them for doing mods to their Tilts. This still remains a community where we help each other and I cherish that. Greed has no place here.

as far as ur suggestions...It looks like I'm gonna be drunk @ 4am on XDA tonite...lol...

HTCFAN0923 said:
Customers as in I work for an AT&T corporate owned Retail location and they have bought Tilts from me. They kno my Tilt has been modded and they usually want to do the same. I don't charge them for doing mods to their Tilts. This still remains a community where we help each other and I cherish that. Greed has no place here.
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That's cool... my misunderstanding then. Hopefully no hard feelings .
All in all it sounds like the guy wants a custom ROM so you should probably get the ATT Beta ROM and install that. And then install HardSPL.
Check Kyphur's second post in the thread below for the ROM you want.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=343198

Thanks for the info sycho...I'll get to it after work..

Good news! The AKU 0.33 worked! Thanks for ur help sycho!

how can i re-install the window? at tilt 8925
i have wm6.1
i want to reset it so the error message shud gone like Recover ?

@kaal,
It seems what you want to do is a HARD RESET. Please visit Kaiser Wiki and read through. You'll know your phone better that way.
@HTCFan & Sirsycho, Glad you both sort it out in the community spirit Cheers!

sirsycho said:
Oddly enough the "Original" Tilt ROM will not install on a Tilt that does not already have HardSPL on it (to spell it out for you, the CID of the ROM does not match the Tilt's stock SPL). If you check the "reverting back" sticky you'll find all this info already, though it is deep in the thread.
The AKU v.0.4.4 ATT Beta ROM does have the correct CID and will flash on a stock Tilt. SO that is what you are forced to resort to at this point. Once you get the beta ROM installed you can (and probably should) install HardSPL.
After all that, if you decide you want to return or warranty the phone follow the "revert" thread to restore it to "stock" form.
Some additional notes on your problem...
ActiveSync will not connect in Bootloader mode (this is expected). You should see a device show up in Device Manager however, I can't recall the exact description however.
quick flash procedure:
put phone in bootloader
connect usb cable
install ROM
FYI, the problem may not be a bricked tilt... you could try Pof's fix which involves using MTTY.exe to boot the phone, depending on how your "customer" tried to flash it it may just need a kick in the pants to restore it. (search Pof's SSPL for the Kaiser thread for instructions, the thread was closed so you will have to look deep).
<climbing on my soapbox>
Lastly... your use of the word "customer" concerns me... are you charging people for the work you do to their phones? If so, do you donate to the people who make it possible? I'm probably just misunderstanding you, but if you're profiting from others work, perhaps you should contribute (especially if you're coming here to ask for help).
</climbing down>
Good Luck!
Cheers.
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Because of you folks and this thread, I have a working device as opposed to a paperweight...Thanks!!!

Flashing back to Shipped ATT ROM from ROM Upgrade without HardSPL

Without HardSPL installed, if you upgrade your ATT Tilt to ROM 1.93, you could not down grade back to 1.56. Well, for some reason, my phone wouldn't boot with 1.93 so I needed to go back to 1.56. When I tried, I got an error that was something like invalid vendor ID. So, instead I flashed the ATT Test rom. After that, I was able to flash 1.56. For me, this was a great find. Maybe it Will help someone else later.

where can i get the original ATT Tilt to ROM 1.56.
I want to restore my tilt to the factory settings.
please help.

ricomilion said:
where can i get the original ATT Tilt to ROM 1.56.
I want to restore my tilt to the factory settings.
please help.
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well you could start by reading this thread right here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=335568 this way you can see how people have done and what issues some people might be running into. Plus you can post whatever issues you have over there.
and for just the instructions consult the wiki:
forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-335568.html
It has pretty much all info you need to revert back to stock rom and spl for warranty/exchange purposes or simply if you want to go back to att crap.
good luck.

thesire said:
well you could start by reading this thread right here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=335568 this way you can see how people have done and what issues some people might be running into. Plus you can post whatever issues you have over there.
and for just the instructions consult the wiki:
forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-335568.html
It has pretty much all info you need to revert back to stock rom and spl for warranty/exchange purposes or simply if you want to go back to att crap.
good luck.
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Thanks very help full.

Reverting to official RUU with HardSPL

I have been searching all over for this but it's probaly right in front of my face. I read that you need to get rid of SPL.nbh from official ROMS before flashing back with HardSPL. The problem is, the official T-Mobile Wing ROM that I downloaded is an .exe file. How do I go about removing the SPL.nbh file since it doesn't display folder contents or anything, just runs the RUU?
Sorry for the double post, I realized I was in the wrong forum

flipside123 said:
I have been searching all over for this but it's probaly right in front of my face. I read that you need to get rid of SPL.nbh from official ROMS before flashing back with HardSPL. The problem is, the official T-Mobile Wing ROM that I downloaded is an .exe file. How do I go about removing the SPL.nbh file since it doesn't display folder contents or anything, just runs the RUU?
Sorry for the double post, I realized I was in the wrong forum
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I'm uploading a zip file which will have the entire thing already to go.
Just flash your device as you would with any other rom.
Hang tight the link will be available within 10 mins.

Thank you sir. Greatly appreciated

flipside123 said:
Thank you sir. Greatly appreciated
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Done:
Remove HARD-SPL On The Wing
This is the same tool used to flash your device when it was not HARD-SPL.
I replaced the RUU_Signed file and SPL.nh file already.
It will bring your wing back to the stanard rom as when you first got it.

One more question. I'm looking to keep HardSPL but I have to revert to original to upgrade ROMS don't I? I want to upgrade to your OT 6.5 ROM

flipside123 said:
One more question. I'm looking to keep HardSPL but I have to revert to original to upgrade ROMS don't I? I want to upgrade to your OT 6.5 ROM
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Okay,
I thought you wanted to go back to the original T-Mobile rom.
If your trying to HARD-SPL your device to install one of my roms or another cooks roms then thats another story.
Please read my FAQ or one of the stickies.

Ok, I think I got it now. So I don't need to revert to the original ROM to flash it since I have HardSPL? Thanks for the help

wen i did this i think i bricked my fone now its at the tmobile screen and it jus staying there

I tried the file that you uploaded here...And it went thru the whole process of flashing the ROM, but after it updated my wing just stays on the T-Mobiel screen and never boots past that.
It had that open touch software on it and I don't want open touch. I want plan old WM 6.0 on there.
I called T-Mobile and got an offical 6.0 update from them, but when I try that one it gets to 1% then says it has a disconneted and I get a connection error.

ttran001 said:
Done:
Remove HARD-SPL On The Wing
This is the same tool used to flash your device when it was not HARD-SPL.
I replaced the RUU_Signed file and SPL.nh file already.
It will bring your wing back to the stanard rom as when you first got it.
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So does this work? The two people who did this had problems. I need the phone to be all stock so I can have t-mobile send a free replacement because the screen is going on this wing.
***EDIT:*** Oka so this is the same as http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=364543&page=2 the first time I tried it it froze at 15% on step 2 so I installed the RAPI CAB like it says. Step two completed, phone rebooted and had white screen then I got error 260 I think. I have the stock t-mobile rom on it and had it on before I did this but it still has the yang from when I did a hard spl. Is there another way to get it to stock or am I doing something wrong? Plug in phone, let it sync, run herald-uspl.exe hit enter and so forth.
***EDIT*** Ok so this time it completed but is now stuck at the T-Mobile screen and I am now unable to even flash because I can't get past it And that damn yang still shows up in bootloader. Well went into bootloader and flashed from there so phone works but the damn yang is still there. And on a side note: Has anyone ever had a problem with their screen going very dark after flashing a rom from here? Phone was fine then I flashed OTP v7.4 TouchFlo 2D Lite.nbh yesterday and at night screen started going dark, would light up when opened in keyboard mode, then switched and then both were very dark and hard to see. I then flashed to OTP v7.3.1 TouchFlo 2D Final.nbh and still dark. Then I flashed to stock rom and have been able to see the screen since.

This is stupid easy to do... im shocked there isnt a post going into detail.
5 steps to going back.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2998657&postcount=4

smokeingit said:
This is stupid easy to do... im shocked there isnt a post going into detail.
5 steps to going back.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2998657&postcount=4
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Did not work. Do I need to install the cab files again? I know I deleted a file out of the stock rom so it would not overwrite or verify or something but I put that file back, should I not have? This has been a few weeks and still can't get the yang off. Screen on my girls phone is almost dead, she can't even slide it any more so I need to fix the spl so I can send back to t-mobile....anyone ?

this is what i do to get back to the tmobile orginal. download the software from tmobile. I downloaded the newest update from tmobile site. REMOVE YOUR SD CARD. Connected my phone via usb. Launched the update. It has never failed me yet. It is just like updating your phone. tmobile has to take it, it is their update. They sent me a new phone noproblem, matter of fact i have to do it again, the back on the phone keeps getting loose on me. so they are sending me another phone again. hope this helps.

Alternatively you can use the combination of uspl and stock rom ruu to return your device to stock tmobile rom...
1. Enter in to uspl like you were falshing one of ttran001 roms... You can get this HERALD-USPL-beta3 from http://rapidshare.com/files/79249048/Flash_Center.rar
2. ONLY use steps 1 and 2 from the black screen (getting the white screen on your device)...
3. For step 3 in the flasher exit out of the black screen (windows cmd screen) by pressing ctrl+C...
4. Fire up the official ruu from tmobile found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=358030 or alternatively if you have a tmobile account still active you can get the most up to date rom from http://www.t-mobile.com/wmupgrade/
5. Fallow on screen instructions...
6. Back to stock rom...

Brick dopod C858
ttran001 said:
Done:
Remove HARD-SPL On The Wing
This is the same tool used to flash your device when it was not HARD-SPL.
I replaced the RUU_Signed file and SPL.nh file already.
It will bring your wing back to the stanard rom as when you first got it.
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Hello freind,
I have been downloaded the above "Remove_HARD-SPL_On_The_Wing.rar" files and flash it to my Dopod C858 which has the Chiness language, I suppose to change the language from chinesse to Englis, After flashing the above files, now the phone is only in bootloader mode.
If you start the phone it will stuck on white screen and turn off.
Please help me how to revive my phone back.
Thanks and best regards
Jhemzz

Hey I'm having the same problem as most of these guys who tried the file. The phone just idles on the white Tmobile screen... does anyone know what to do or how to help?
Please and thank you!

angest90 said:
wen i did this i think i bricked my fone now its at the tmobile screen and it jus staying there
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im having the same problem can anyone help me please?

hotsammysliz said:
im having the same problem can anyone help me please?
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Being stuck at the Tmobile screen isn't a true brick. Just reflash your ROM. (If you're not HardSPL'd, reflash your RUU.)

Remove Hard SPL from bootloader
Hi,
Anyone out there knows if we can remove hardspl from bootloader of Wing. Problem is my mobile displays splash screen, then switch offs by itself. Its been quite some time that I have hardspled it and have been using it. But recently I am facing this issue, so I am trying to move to original RUU and try if it works.
So for that anyone knows if we can remove hardspl from bootloader, because I am only able to enter bootloader. Moreover I tried several original roms from Flash Center as well as through SD card as well, but still be SPL version is 4.70.yang. Anyone knows any other alternative.
Also, if anyone has faced similar problem then kindly advice how you resolved.
Thanks in advance!
Regards,
Pankaj

Kaiser - Questions about Unlock and HTC Rom

Hey everyone first of all i would like to thank all of you for all the amazing info. you guys really helped me with unlocking the phone took me almost the hole day as was getting errors but now that's set......the help i need is in firstly answering certain questions .......
1).....Is it true that if I flash my Rom again I dont have to worry about it getting locked again.
2).....When BootLoader Mode shows SPL-1.0 OliPof means I am ready to flash any Rom right? Or should I go through CID unlock.
3).....If I flash my Tilt with an HTC Rom will I still see all those ATT Logo and 3G Splash screen and will I have all those useless ATT software.
4).....If something does go wrong or I dont like the new Rom can I flash back; the reason I ask is because some said that you couldnt. Are there a lot of issues using an OFFICIAL HTC ROM... or have they all been fixed.
5).....Has the Keyboard Issue been fixed yet for the HTC Rom or not.
Thanks,

no sim locks are not reapplied with rom flash

1) Once you are unlocked, you stay unlocked through all rom flashes
2) You should go through the CID unlock if you want to flash a rom that is not meant for your phone (cooked rom ) Most roms also require a HardSpl update to 3.29 or 3.56
3) Yes, All the AT$T stuff is in the AT$T rom, it makes sense that if you dump the rom for another, you are dumping all the stuff contained in the rom.
4) You can flash back, forward, up, down, sideways, anyway you want to any rom you want as long as it is a rom written for a Kaiser. What is wrong with the OFFICIAL HTC ROM ? There are bugs in any rom, most are user initiated, program conflicts, or they just happen on one phone and not on another and no one can figure out why. Cooked or Official, they all have quirks, official probably less so.
5) There is a Tilt keyboard fix out and also an HTC keyboard fix out.
Just follow this tutorial step by step and you will have no problems,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=433835

THANKS A LOT!!!! I was holding back since i was bit unsure. Now I can look forward to something GREAT!!!

[Q] Warrany?

Hey, if I upgraded my hd2 to android (flashed the NAND ROM) but now I realized that Android won't even run b/c of a problem I have had from before, and I want to send it back and get a new one...
So, i flashed back to the original WM version I had before, I went to HSPL and flashed to the 2.000 ROM instead of the hspl...
Is my warranty voided now? Will they know I did all this?
and if it is can, what about insurance on the phone they offer to everyone (I actually took it) that should cover the phone even if it is dropped in a lake, right?

You can just revert back to stock some times just by flashing an official ROM or just following a simple unrooting process just search for your particular phone, as long as you make sure you do that, they won't know that you did anything to it.
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App

Thanks, that's great!
Now can any one tell me what all im supposed to do to put the phone back the way it was (the way the warranty people want to see it)?
I found a guide about the Diamond somewhere on this website [http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=537496], and also looked over some other guids, and I have some quick questions;
'stock ROM' is this the tmobile windows rom I had on before right?
The tutorial says when I flash the stock ROM that I should also have a new stock radio version, this is not the case with me I still have 2.15.50.40, can I download 'stock radio' from somewhere?
Also, what's the stock spl? How do I check that?
Sorry for all the newbie-ism in the questions;
Also sorry that it says warrany instead of warranty, something must be wrong with my keyboard.
Thanks for any answers

If your radio didn't change you can change it by flashing the original one just look here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=470306
Your stock ROM is wm 6.1, your stock spl is either 1.93 or 2.03 just check out here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3359191&postcount=390