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Ok, look, I've searched and scoured and repeated until I'm pissed beyond belief. My NATF Manila2D ROM was boogying right along just freaking fine until I installed KaiserTweak and now it's all effed to Hell and back.
SOMEONE EXPLAIN?!
Sorry to be so ill but I've noticed it's happened with NUMEROUS Manila2D ROMs and it's pissing me off to constantly have to reflash (I didnt really realize that was the issue until now.)
Basically, I install KaiserTweak, OPEN KaiserTweak, CLOSE KaiserTweak (doesnt matter if ANY changes are made by the user, ie me) then soft reset. Upon reboot, the p.o.s TouchFlo engages and the BOOM! I get the lovely Black Screen of Death: PPC Edition. Once TouchFlo loads, it shows the Message tab but WITH NO FREAKING OTHER TABS!! *fumes*
It shows a pretty black blankness where the Manila interface should be and "All Messages" and "Menu" where the soft keys aught to be.
I'm bloody sick and tired of reflashing my stuff. *seriously pissed*
The easiest thing is to just NOT install KaiserTweak BUT I would like to know any way AROUND this cursed p.o.s. conflict.
I've attached a screen shot of the issue. Maybe a picture will help clarify why I'm so ill.
Thanks in advance.
P.S. Forgive me if it's some simple tweak I have to engage to fix this. I've just tried everything that I know and I'm really just ill that I've sat here and fought with this thing to no avail...Thanks again, folks.
False Alarm! =D
Ok, sorry for the freak out. Pretty much I uninstalled every customization tool I had (even though everything was cool until KaiserTweak effed it up) and now it's back to normal =]
If anyone has any ideas as to what setting is actually corrupting my interface (as no one else seems to be having this issue or at least not reporting it) then letting me know would be greatly appreciated. I love my customization tools but not if they're gonna conflict and break my phone =[
Btw, NATF has some of the best ROMs IMHO =D
Going back to loving my ROM now lol
Thanks guys!
One More Piece of Info for the Road
So I just went back and I figured out that if I take the Messaging tab off in the Tab Settings that everything is ok but if I put it in (which I really dont have to have so it's ok, would be nice though) then it effs it back up to that black screen that I originally freaked about.
Like I said, everything was ok until KT. =[
Maybe that weirdness will help.
Here's to hoping.
-Omega
My keyboard was working fine all this while until about 2 weeks ago it starts to act up. When I press the spacebar, sometimes it will create double spaces (instead of the usual one), and sometimes, it wouldn't work at all (meaning no space is created).
Does anyone else have this problem?
And just wondering, I have flashed my TP to ROMeOS, so if I were to claim warranty, does that mean I'll have to re-flash my TP back to the original firmware?
Bump - I really need some help.
Bump again! Mine is doing this at the moment. Stock ROM. UK Vodafone.
As far as going back to get it fixed by someone, yes, you would have to go back to stock SPL and stock ROM. It sounds like a pretty strange problem. The only thing I could think of is that you have some particles stuck underneath the space key since it's acting s erratically.
same problem here. I don't think that it is particles under the keyboard as that would not explain the double spacing issue.
I only noticed it on the R2A rom, don't remember it being there on the R1 so prob a rom issue.
I have this problem too
Figured I'd give this a good Ole Bump, because it seems that, although not widespread, it's still an issue. I'm running the Latest 6.5 ROMeOS on my Fuze and am having the SAME problems mentioned in the first post. I remember reading in Da_G's thread that there was something corrected in his ROM by using a custom xT9 dictionary? Anyone have any input? I'm (almost) positive this is not hardware related. It seems to be tied to the OS. Thanks in advance.
me too having the problem as well, i've it for more than 1.5 months i think, and no one having this in the earlier day which no one can help me out with it, but this few days i think i manage to solve this problem already, which i think it actually is a hardware issue, i used to use my right thumb to press spacebar and the problem occur, but since few days ago i try changing it to use my left thumb to press spacebar, who knows, the problem did not come to me since then... maybe you can try this, if not, i think you might gonna sent it back for warranty... hopes this helps...
I'm almost positive it has something to do with xT9. I just used a cab from my tilt days to disable xT9, and its happening FAR less than it was. But its still happening lol. Even with the regular stock non-finger-friendly keyboard set as the SIP. Back to the drawing board.
Well, I'm not sure if everyone else has read and figured out the problem, but it is now known what causes the spacing issue.
Apparently the newest builds have changes to the compime.dll file. These changes are what is causing the spacing problems, and (so far) can only be resolved by using the compime.dll from build 21731 or earlier. So how do we fix this
I know that Da_G has a package in his kitchen to change the dll back to an earlier one, but for the people that are using already cooked roms, what do we do?
djcaston said:
Well, I'm not sure if everyone else has read and figured out the problem, but it is now known what causes the spacing issue.
Apparently the newest builds have changes to the compime.dll file. These changes are what is causing the spacing problems, and (so far) can only be resolved by using the compime.dll from build 21731 or earlier. So how do we fix this
I know that Da_G has a package in his kitchen to change the dll back to an earlier one, but for the people that are using already cooked roms, what do we do?
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If that's the problem, then this post might help you.
EDIT: But someone noted this problem with their stock ROM, which suggests a hardware issue, not a ROM problem.
I thought I'd post this since clearly I'm not the only one who suffers from this problem. After 6 months of living with this problem, I've decided to flash back to stock SPL and stock ROM and sent it to SiS for repair. They replaced the keyboard, and in just 2 days, I got my phone back (talk about a speedy repair!).
I don't know about you guys, but I'm almost positive mine is a hardware problem. I'm now using a WM6.5 TF3D2 ROM by shep211 and the keyboard seems to be working perfectly.
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i got the same problem.
spacebar sometime can press sometime cant.
i think is hardware problem
anyone can guild me how to open n repair it?
my touch pro is not under sis. too bad.
Mine's been doing the same thing recently. I'm *hoping* this is an os issue, but I'm using stock original bloat free rom.
My has also been acting up tho (goofiness with Opera, rare and seemingly random shut offs and freezing) so I was hoping that a flash to a cooked rom would fix it.
I'm planning on doing it this weekend, if I get around to it I'll post here on my results.
I had the same problem. Went to the AT&T store and got a new phone
I too have been having this problem. I have been using NRG's roms for the past month (no blame on them) and the problem started to occur. Whenever I texted i would hardly ever get any spaces and it would double space when i did get it to work. I found that if i went slower and pressed harder it would work fine, however this is not a good solution. So i figured it was a hardware problem so i put everything back to default for ATT warranty purposes.
This is where it gets weird, the dumb thing starts to work again. I thought it was pure hardware failure because i had to press harder, but now that problem was gone.
So now I am running stock ATT rom but it is starting to double space ALOT. However this only occurs in the text message box. If i open word and type it is flawless. So is there a glitch in the text messaging program?
same problem here... happens when texting in my browser, in forums, in sms msging, all over...
I have a Samsung Omnia with a WM 6.5 build, and I noticed a similar problem, regardless of which onscreen keyboard I use. Basically whenever I type a dot (.) or press the spacebar, the previous letter would get selected (underlined) for a second, before the caret returns to the intended position. Typing the spacebar in a browser would indeed produce 2 spaces.
I assume it's related to the input/dictionary suggest feature, yet dis-/enabling this feature in the settings doesn't fix the problem. My guess is that the dictionary somehow thinks that a single spacebar press is a correct word, which is automatically expanded to the full word (1 space), followed by another space to put the following word.
This issue surfaced at some point (the rom initially worked fine after a hardreset).
same issue on my phone
I can go to setup/system/screen and change the orientation to "Portrait". but it's changing right back to landscape if I put it in sleep mode and wake it up. Or if I slide the keyboard and slide back it stays in landscape.
Any clues on why it's defaulting back to landscape and not staying in portrait mode?
Thank you in advance!
Jonathan
You really need to give a little more info. What rom are you using? Stock? 6.1? 6.5? What carrier? Do you have a newer manila on there? No one can help you with the information (or lack thereof) that you have given.
It's happening with both ROM I tried (NFSFAN's WM6.5 build 14 & Mighty 21840.5.0.60). I've got the phone on MetroPCS service. Manila 2.1 I think with the Mighty Rom flash. Hope this helps, Thank you in advance -Jonathan
I dunno; have you done anything weird with Advanced configuration? There was a dude once who set his angle for causing the switch from portrait to landscape to 0 degrees, and his phone when haywire. Also, what programs have you installed, and do you have anything weird that runs at startup that you installed, like any g-config programs? Maybe you installed something that is screwing with the phone in a big way. It's just a guess. I know from personal experience that the Iris browser can screw with the phone in a big way, particularly if it switches the phone to landscape and you close it that way.
I'd suggest doing a hard reset, not installing any apps or any tweaks, and see if the phone is still acting up. If it is, then you may have a hardware problem. also, you should probably try calibrating the g-sensor. I've never done it myself, but if yours is out of whack, it may be messing with the orientation.
This happened to me as well, I tried a hard reset that only succeeded in pissing me off. Got with HTC Tech support, they pointed me toward a new sprint ROM that was released (just as bad as a hard reset) didn't work either. Then they set me up with getting it repaired, since I was still under HTC's warranty of 12 months. Just got it back last week and all seems fine now although they did not say what happened.
Sorry I can't tell you what the issue is. But try Tech Support just make sure you have the phone set up like it's fresh out of the box, make sure you check the registry as well for lingering traces of previously uninstalled programs or edits.
Hope it helps.
Good Luck
So now with the dual boot options posted and available for such a wide range of devices, i've decided to try android out and check on its progress.
I have had issues with my keyboard ever since WM6.5 had been leaked.. so its been for a while now. i would have to press very hard on my backspace key, and my spacebar would be hit or miss. I would hit it, and sometimes get multiple spaces, other times nothing at all.
I even flashed the default ATT stock rom to see if it was a rom problem.. there have been many threads about this saying that this was a hardware problem, and i hate to open a new one, but i think this deserves a new thread.
I installed android this morning, and ALL my keys work as they are supposed to. So i would like to get confirmations from other people with this issue on Windows Mobile, by having them try android and see.
I return to windows mobile and the problem still exists. I go back to android and the problem is gone! so i can confirm this is NOT A HARDWARE ISSUE
I will upload videos later.
Contact AT&T warranty about this, and try to convince them to give you a Tilt 2, tell them you don't want to have the same phone and keep having problems and then having to replace it again and want to stay a happy customer.
im guessing its a conflict between the two, but thats just my guess, not totally sure why, try taking out ur memory card and soft reset or if ure phone is fresh from flashing, try a hard reset and dont put the card in yet, do a quick test on office mobile and see if the problem still exist
Nothing makes the spacebar problem go away on WinMo. It works in some ROM's (very few) but most of the ROM's the spacebar problem is back. I can confirm it is not a hardware issue. I just need to hunt for the ROM's on which the space bar used to work. I will try Andriod and report back if the spacebar issue is gone. Downloading now
I can now confirm. The spacebar has issueon EnergyROM but has no issues while using android. TurboX2 good job on noticing this.
Next question how do we go about fixing this?
tael and energy gave me issues, my current one is captains and have no spacebar issue here
so does this mean that the keyboard issue is something that could potentially be solved with some modification to the keyboard driver?
i have a feeling that this will never be solved :/
the whole scenario just doesn't make sense.. like i said... you would think reverting back to stock should have made the keyboard work again.. but nope not for me at least
If I had to guess, I would think that the results you are seeing is a result of either a more sensitive driver or a driver with a more effective signal parser that can distinguish the button press despite the hardware being worn. I'm not sure how that could be used to our advantage but at least its something to go on.
The MR2 update is out on the PCD site. Looked in some of the forums and nobody has mentioned it. Anyone install yet? I'm still downloading. Hoping for an updated Sense at least. PCD site only mentions a general update for VZNavigator, Contact Cards and Time Stamp.
Edit: I've downloaded and run the update and now I'm stuck at the starting HTC screen (now green letters on white) with the version numbers in red in bottom left. I've re-booted and sticks at the same place.
I'm having the same problem. I've heard you can go back to the MR1 update. Also, sounds like people who unlocked their phones are the ones having the issue. Anybody else have any info?
TP2 Verizon MR2 update
Found this nice summary of changes over at WMExperts:
ROM: 4.01.605.15/Radio: 2.35.00WV
Operating system has been upgraded to Windows Mobile®
6.5 COM2.5.
The HTC Sense™ user interface has been improved.
Visual Voice Mail (version 1.1.12.11) now comes preloaded on the device.
GlobalAccess Connect support. For international Internet access, you can tether your smartphone to a notebook.
Enhanced VZ Navigator® performance.
Improved auto-configuration of Daylight Saving Time.
Improved word prediction and autocorrection.
Enhanced on-screen keyboard layouts.
New, compact QWERTY keyboard option.
When composing email or text messages, type the first few letters of the recipient’s name in the To field to see a list of possible matches.
Quick setup of common email account types and an option to set up an email account manually.
However there is a problem with the update. You will need to relock it apparently to load it. Here is what they found:
Quote:
"Originally Posted by NightRaven
I also cannot boot the mr2 update. However, I dumped the rom, and rebuilt it using the boot.rgu from the MR1 update, and also removing the OEM_FLASHDRV_1.DLL module from the XIP. After flashing it did boot correctly.
I'm going to now try a straight dump and rebuild to see if it is just something in their updater thats causing the issue.
Yep, It is the boot.rgu and the OEM_FLASHDRV_1.DLL that's causing the problem!"
It is Sense 2.5, as I mentioned back in March.
One thing I noticed, is that my customized taskbar doesn't work correctly on this ROM. Some icons remain stock while others change. Some DLL's have changed names I guess.
They also mentioned that the task manager is gone, does that mean that I cant choose what to close and when to close it now?
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I got it last night but haven't had a chance to check it out.
You were right Brent!
I forgot about loosing the HTC taskbar. Looking forward to finally be able to add customs tabs now that I have HTC sense 2.5.
I'm having a problem getting my phone re-locked. I've gone back to the stock ROM, but when I try to run the RhodiumW_SPLRelocker_063.exe nothing happens. Any suggestions or can anyone point me to a thread that can help? Thanks!
UPDATE Sorry I'm a dufus, forgot to run it As Admin
WildCat714 said:
They also mentioned that the task manager is gone, does that mean that I cant choose what to close and when to close it now?
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segadc said:
I got it last night but haven't had a chance to check it out.
You were right Brent!
I forgot about loosing the HTC taskbar. Looking forward to finally be able to add customs tabs now that I have HTC sense 2.5.
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Which was I right about?
For task manager, download TouchX's task manager.
does anyone plan to dump and repackage for those of us that are not rom dumpy smarty people
brent372 said:
Which was I right about?
For task manager, download TouchX's task manager.
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I thought you were the one that said we would get it cause you saw at Verizon or something? If not nevermind lol.
Thanks I will check out that task manager.
One more thing, is their a cab to add appointments to home tab? I know there is cookie (which I did check out) but I really just want appointments without all the extra stuff. Thanks!
segadc said:
One more thing, is their a cab to add appointments to home tab? I know there is cookie (which I did check out) but I really just want appointments without all the extra stuff. Thanks!
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I really don't know. I am not upgrading until I find a solution to getting a programs tab that actually works.
I had mentioned in a comment over at WMExperts that the taskmanager is gone... I now realize that you have to go into the All Programs to launch it, which is a drag. I miss the one on the top-right built in to the title bar
I added taskmanager to the quick links so it'll do but I'd really prefer the old one. I also miss the appointments on the homescreen. Boot time is even longer, but flipping through emails, photos and appointments in much snappier. I really enjoy the HTC Peep Twitter tab. The settings tab makeover is well appreciated too.
Overall, I really like this update though
I noticed some slow down with peep so I took it off. It was cool to have it right there but I will stick with the awesome moTweets. Too bad you couldn't add that to a tab.
edit: I do like that it locks now when I hit standby button. No more calling people by accidently (or less frequently).
htc task manager can be added so that the top right arrow is there again. It is attached to the following thread a few times. http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=125428
Hey guys Mr. X over at PPCGeeks went through and fixed the MR2 VZW Update...go to PPCGeeks website (or MightyROM website) to download it..
Did they put the good soft keyboard with the 'control' key back in this rom?
I installed MR2 yesterday and everything went fine. Until it came to running for a few hours. When the phone first boots up, everything's great, but after about an hour, it just slows to a crawl. None of the animations are smooth, just recently it took five minutes to flip from one text message to another. But, that hasn't really been so bad as about every other time I go to turn the screen back on, it just doesn't turn on and the only thing I can do is pull the battery.
Yeah, the quick links are nice, the new settings page is great and the email/text message pages flip in the same direction (seriously, who missed that in MR1?) but I went from having a nice, reliable, snappy phone, to a brick of **** that I can hardly stand to use.
I'm going back to MR1.
I was running a custom ROM on Verizon TP2. I first tried to installed the MR2 ROM and as others have said it hung on bootup. I held vol down while pressing reset and the bootloader screen will come up and if you are connected to the PC will go in to USB mode. I ran Task29 which uploaded fine but the TP2 still hung on bootup. I then went to the bootloader screen again and ran the re-lock utility over at PPCGeeks. Tried to book and still hung. Went in to bootloader again and this time reran the MR2 installed which worked and finally it boot all the way up. I still did a clear memory 1234 and everything again booted up with no problems.
I am concerned about the guy above who reported that it would slow to a crawl but many that's a result of not running Task29? Hard to imagine such a fundamental problem. I mean, I don't doubt that it happened but I can't imagine that it will happen on all installs. I just installed mine a few hours ago so I guess I'll know by tomorrow.
Good luck!!
tboneppc said:
I am concerned about the guy above who reported that it would slow to a crawl but many that's a result of not running Task29? Hard to imagine such a fundamental problem. I mean, I don't doubt that it happened but I can't imagine that it will happen on all installs. I just installed mine a few hours ago so I guess I'll know by tomorrow.
Good luck!!
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This is/was a "clean" phone. never unlocked, no custom roms, just straight from Verizon to me to MR2 so running task29 doesn't seem necessary.
shrug. when I get some free time next year, I'll call vzw and ask them wtf happened.