So now with the dual boot options posted and available for such a wide range of devices, i've decided to try android out and check on its progress.
I have had issues with my keyboard ever since WM6.5 had been leaked.. so its been for a while now. i would have to press very hard on my backspace key, and my spacebar would be hit or miss. I would hit it, and sometimes get multiple spaces, other times nothing at all.
I even flashed the default ATT stock rom to see if it was a rom problem.. there have been many threads about this saying that this was a hardware problem, and i hate to open a new one, but i think this deserves a new thread.
I installed android this morning, and ALL my keys work as they are supposed to. So i would like to get confirmations from other people with this issue on Windows Mobile, by having them try android and see.
I return to windows mobile and the problem still exists. I go back to android and the problem is gone! so i can confirm this is NOT A HARDWARE ISSUE
I will upload videos later.
Contact AT&T warranty about this, and try to convince them to give you a Tilt 2, tell them you don't want to have the same phone and keep having problems and then having to replace it again and want to stay a happy customer.
im guessing its a conflict between the two, but thats just my guess, not totally sure why, try taking out ur memory card and soft reset or if ure phone is fresh from flashing, try a hard reset and dont put the card in yet, do a quick test on office mobile and see if the problem still exist
Nothing makes the spacebar problem go away on WinMo. It works in some ROM's (very few) but most of the ROM's the spacebar problem is back. I can confirm it is not a hardware issue. I just need to hunt for the ROM's on which the space bar used to work. I will try Andriod and report back if the spacebar issue is gone. Downloading now
I can now confirm. The spacebar has issueon EnergyROM but has no issues while using android. TurboX2 good job on noticing this.
Next question how do we go about fixing this?
tael and energy gave me issues, my current one is captains and have no spacebar issue here
so does this mean that the keyboard issue is something that could potentially be solved with some modification to the keyboard driver?
i have a feeling that this will never be solved :/
the whole scenario just doesn't make sense.. like i said... you would think reverting back to stock should have made the keyboard work again.. but nope not for me at least
If I had to guess, I would think that the results you are seeing is a result of either a more sensitive driver or a driver with a more effective signal parser that can distinguish the button press despite the hardware being worn. I'm not sure how that could be used to our advantage but at least its something to go on.
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I occasionally get into a mode where the hardware keyboard is non-responsive. Nothing on it works. I'm not sure if this is a defect on my particular phone, or if I've accidentally enabled some "feature" that causes the keyboard to be locked out. A soft reset will fix the issue, but that can be very annoying...
Has anyone else seen this?
Ken98045 said:
I occasionally get into a mode where the hardware keyboard is non-responsive. Nothing on it works. I'm not sure if this is a defect on my particular phone, or if I've accidentally enabled some "feature" that causes the keyboard to be locked out. A soft reset will fix the issue, but that can be very annoying...
Has anyone else seen this?
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I have experienced this before, where the backlight wont even activate from pressing a button, and the keyboard certainly isnt typing anything on the screen either. Although usually i can fix this by sliding the keyboard back in, and then out again.... annoying yes, but its only happened twice in the month i have had my ATT Fuze, and i havent had to reboot like you mentioned.
When running my stock AT&T rom, I had this happen almost daily. Now that I flashed a new rom, I have yet to experience it again. I had to turn off/on my device in order for it to go away before.
Same problem here.
Sliding in and out does not work any more.
Resetting doesn't work anymore either...
Time to flash to original Roms?
Keyboard lock up
This happens to me too. I noticed that it happens more frequently when I set my wifi to best performance, and then try to type something. Keyboard becomes completely unresponsive. I usually have to soft reset.
I had the problem with stock ATT rom, NATF rom, and now with RRE 4.5SE Rom. I have tried the T9 dissabler, but it also did not work. My Fuze is only a few days old...
I notice this seems to be a common problem... No one seems to have answered this in any of the posts I've read. Is there a cab or patch or reg tweak that some one has come up with to deal with this? Can some one look into this???
Thanks so much in advance!
Mitch
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Forgot to mention that this my second Fuze, sent the other one back because it was doing the same thing...
same unsolved issue here (wants me to crack my fuze)
Ive noticed this too... but what I do to correct the problem is hit the window key. It then activates the start menu. Then press it again to exit the start menu and the keyboard magiclly works again. At least for me anyway.
I have this problem occasionally, maybe twice with the ATT stock ROM, an once with the RRE 4.5SE ROM, mine rights itself after the application is closed and re-opened after a minute or so, so Im not that bothered, it is annoying though.
Nice, I'll try that..
Try the NATF ROM
Since I've switched over to the NATF ROM I haven't had a single problem with the keyboard.
tried NAFT v4 already with the same hq keyboard lock/die/shut down issue
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Since I've switched over to the NATF ROM I haven't had a single problem with the keyboard.
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Same issue here, happened with both stock rom and NATF 4.1
It goes away after doing some random things like others have mentioned, but still annoying.
Had my TP for just over 2 months now and when i slide out the keyboard to write a sms i start typing and nothing shows up, the curors doesn;t even more along as i type. It will only sometimes work in Notes and i used excel earlier today and had to type and the curosr moved along with each button press but wouldn;t show the text. I had to move down a row to actually see what I typed.
Thanks
Regards,
Neil
mine did the same thing
when I first got mine a few weeks ago, it did the same thing. I cant tell you what caused it happen though
I search through all of the programs I had installed that effect performance and eventually did a hard reset and it started working normally.
I also had an issue with programs running very slow and the tf3d lagged bad. You should flash your rom, it makes a world of difference. If you decide to do it, look through all of your installed programs from the factory rom and make a list of what you want to keep... not all roms have everything you need installed. Then just download all the programs back to your new rom. I used NATFs V2.3 and am really happy with it.
BTW I am a newb and have never done anything like that to a phone before... I just followed the instructions on the Rom development page (sticky) and it was a breeze.
you should do it
Thanks Mike for your help.
What worries me is what would I do if for any reson I need to send the phone back to Vodafone?
I have asked for a link to the defaul Vodafone Touch Pro rom on here but nothing has turned up.
I am also just worried about doing the whole flashing thing as I just don;t really want to break it
If you follow the steps in the stickies, you wont mess up your phone. I am not sure about the vodaphone rom... would it really matter to the company what rom you have if you warranty is covering a broken component of the phone. Just drop it in a bucket of water and claim the insurance taht way??? Maybe someone else can chime in.
My keyboard was working fine all this while until about 2 weeks ago it starts to act up. When I press the spacebar, sometimes it will create double spaces (instead of the usual one), and sometimes, it wouldn't work at all (meaning no space is created).
Does anyone else have this problem?
And just wondering, I have flashed my TP to ROMeOS, so if I were to claim warranty, does that mean I'll have to re-flash my TP back to the original firmware?
Bump - I really need some help.
Bump again! Mine is doing this at the moment. Stock ROM. UK Vodafone.
As far as going back to get it fixed by someone, yes, you would have to go back to stock SPL and stock ROM. It sounds like a pretty strange problem. The only thing I could think of is that you have some particles stuck underneath the space key since it's acting s erratically.
same problem here. I don't think that it is particles under the keyboard as that would not explain the double spacing issue.
I only noticed it on the R2A rom, don't remember it being there on the R1 so prob a rom issue.
I have this problem too
Figured I'd give this a good Ole Bump, because it seems that, although not widespread, it's still an issue. I'm running the Latest 6.5 ROMeOS on my Fuze and am having the SAME problems mentioned in the first post. I remember reading in Da_G's thread that there was something corrected in his ROM by using a custom xT9 dictionary? Anyone have any input? I'm (almost) positive this is not hardware related. It seems to be tied to the OS. Thanks in advance.
me too having the problem as well, i've it for more than 1.5 months i think, and no one having this in the earlier day which no one can help me out with it, but this few days i think i manage to solve this problem already, which i think it actually is a hardware issue, i used to use my right thumb to press spacebar and the problem occur, but since few days ago i try changing it to use my left thumb to press spacebar, who knows, the problem did not come to me since then... maybe you can try this, if not, i think you might gonna sent it back for warranty... hopes this helps...
I'm almost positive it has something to do with xT9. I just used a cab from my tilt days to disable xT9, and its happening FAR less than it was. But its still happening lol. Even with the regular stock non-finger-friendly keyboard set as the SIP. Back to the drawing board.
Well, I'm not sure if everyone else has read and figured out the problem, but it is now known what causes the spacing issue.
Apparently the newest builds have changes to the compime.dll file. These changes are what is causing the spacing problems, and (so far) can only be resolved by using the compime.dll from build 21731 or earlier. So how do we fix this
I know that Da_G has a package in his kitchen to change the dll back to an earlier one, but for the people that are using already cooked roms, what do we do?
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Well, I'm not sure if everyone else has read and figured out the problem, but it is now known what causes the spacing issue.
Apparently the newest builds have changes to the compime.dll file. These changes are what is causing the spacing problems, and (so far) can only be resolved by using the compime.dll from build 21731 or earlier. So how do we fix this
I know that Da_G has a package in his kitchen to change the dll back to an earlier one, but for the people that are using already cooked roms, what do we do?
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If that's the problem, then this post might help you.
EDIT: But someone noted this problem with their stock ROM, which suggests a hardware issue, not a ROM problem.
I thought I'd post this since clearly I'm not the only one who suffers from this problem. After 6 months of living with this problem, I've decided to flash back to stock SPL and stock ROM and sent it to SiS for repair. They replaced the keyboard, and in just 2 days, I got my phone back (talk about a speedy repair!).
I don't know about you guys, but I'm almost positive mine is a hardware problem. I'm now using a WM6.5 TF3D2 ROM by shep211 and the keyboard seems to be working perfectly.
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i got the same problem.
spacebar sometime can press sometime cant.
i think is hardware problem
anyone can guild me how to open n repair it?
my touch pro is not under sis. too bad.
Mine's been doing the same thing recently. I'm *hoping* this is an os issue, but I'm using stock original bloat free rom.
My has also been acting up tho (goofiness with Opera, rare and seemingly random shut offs and freezing) so I was hoping that a flash to a cooked rom would fix it.
I'm planning on doing it this weekend, if I get around to it I'll post here on my results.
I had the same problem. Went to the AT&T store and got a new phone
I too have been having this problem. I have been using NRG's roms for the past month (no blame on them) and the problem started to occur. Whenever I texted i would hardly ever get any spaces and it would double space when i did get it to work. I found that if i went slower and pressed harder it would work fine, however this is not a good solution. So i figured it was a hardware problem so i put everything back to default for ATT warranty purposes.
This is where it gets weird, the dumb thing starts to work again. I thought it was pure hardware failure because i had to press harder, but now that problem was gone.
So now I am running stock ATT rom but it is starting to double space ALOT. However this only occurs in the text message box. If i open word and type it is flawless. So is there a glitch in the text messaging program?
same problem here... happens when texting in my browser, in forums, in sms msging, all over...
I have a Samsung Omnia with a WM 6.5 build, and I noticed a similar problem, regardless of which onscreen keyboard I use. Basically whenever I type a dot (.) or press the spacebar, the previous letter would get selected (underlined) for a second, before the caret returns to the intended position. Typing the spacebar in a browser would indeed produce 2 spaces.
I assume it's related to the input/dictionary suggest feature, yet dis-/enabling this feature in the settings doesn't fix the problem. My guess is that the dictionary somehow thinks that a single spacebar press is a correct word, which is automatically expanded to the full word (1 space), followed by another space to put the following word.
This issue surfaced at some point (the rom initially worked fine after a hardreset).
same issue on my phone
I can go to setup/system/screen and change the orientation to "Portrait". but it's changing right back to landscape if I put it in sleep mode and wake it up. Or if I slide the keyboard and slide back it stays in landscape.
Any clues on why it's defaulting back to landscape and not staying in portrait mode?
Thank you in advance!
Jonathan
You really need to give a little more info. What rom are you using? Stock? 6.1? 6.5? What carrier? Do you have a newer manila on there? No one can help you with the information (or lack thereof) that you have given.
It's happening with both ROM I tried (NFSFAN's WM6.5 build 14 & Mighty 21840.5.0.60). I've got the phone on MetroPCS service. Manila 2.1 I think with the Mighty Rom flash. Hope this helps, Thank you in advance -Jonathan
I dunno; have you done anything weird with Advanced configuration? There was a dude once who set his angle for causing the switch from portrait to landscape to 0 degrees, and his phone when haywire. Also, what programs have you installed, and do you have anything weird that runs at startup that you installed, like any g-config programs? Maybe you installed something that is screwing with the phone in a big way. It's just a guess. I know from personal experience that the Iris browser can screw with the phone in a big way, particularly if it switches the phone to landscape and you close it that way.
I'd suggest doing a hard reset, not installing any apps or any tweaks, and see if the phone is still acting up. If it is, then you may have a hardware problem. also, you should probably try calibrating the g-sensor. I've never done it myself, but if yours is out of whack, it may be messing with the orientation.
This happened to me as well, I tried a hard reset that only succeeded in pissing me off. Got with HTC Tech support, they pointed me toward a new sprint ROM that was released (just as bad as a hard reset) didn't work either. Then they set me up with getting it repaired, since I was still under HTC's warranty of 12 months. Just got it back last week and all seems fine now although they did not say what happened.
Sorry I can't tell you what the issue is. But try Tech Support just make sure you have the phone set up like it's fresh out of the box, make sure you check the registry as well for lingering traces of previously uninstalled programs or edits.
Hope it helps.
Good Luck
I have been having trouble with my i727 over the past few weeks. It has shown 3 different problems which are really starting to bug me. The three problems are not related but I have condensed them into one thread. Please pardon me as I am pretty noobish with the software end of things.
1. Glitchy when charging. Any time I plug in a charger the screen and softkeys freeze up. I have to hold the power button for a while to get it to unlock. When it is not frozen. The screen is messed up. Sometimes I tap with one finger or slide to unlock and it zooms as if in multitouch. One time I tried to dial a 3 in a phone number and it dialed 374 just randomly on its own. I don't know if the charger is messing something up in this. Note: This started happening after I rooted for the first time but has been consistent through the many roms I have had. I'm pretty sure its not skyics. Do I need to call ATT for this
2. Also my GPS has been taking a really long time to fix if not at all. I normally use it in maps but if I open a simple gps coordinates read out app. Sometimes the GPS fails to start. I don't know if it is a skyics issue or if I have a hardware issue. Any input would be helpful
3. Lastly, its not really a big deal and is probably a simple fix but I have tried everything. I use dolphin browser and everytime I search google it thinks I am in canada and no matter how many times a change it. It always reverts to canada.
If you have experienced these issues or if you know why they are being caused please let me know because I don't know what they could be. My phone (should) still be under warranty (if you ignore the root) so I may want to call ATT especially if its a hardware prblem
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I have been having trouble with my i727 over the past few weeks. It has shown 3 different problems which are really starting to bug me. The three problems are not related but I have condensed them into one thread. Please pardon me as I am pretty noobish with the software end of things.
1. Glitchy when charging. Any time I plug in a charger the screen and softkeys freeze up. I have to hold the power button for a while to get it to unlock. When it is not frozen. The screen is messed up. Sometimes I tap with one finger or slide to unlock and it zooms as if in multitouch. One time I tried to dial a 3 in a phone number and it dialed 374 just randomly on its own. I don't know if the charger is messing something up in this. Note: This started happening after I rooted for the first time but has been consistent through the many roms I have had. I'm pretty sure its not skyics. Do I need to call ATT for this
2. Also my GPS has been taking a really long time to fix if not at all. I normally use it in maps but if I open a simple gps coordinates read out app. Sometimes the GPS fails to start. I don't know if it is a skyics issue or if I have a hardware issue. Any input would be helpful
3. Lastly, its not really a big deal and is probably a simple fix but I have tried everything. I use dolphin browser and everytime I search google it thinks I am in canada and no matter how many times a change it. It always reverts to canada.
If you have experienced these issues or if you know why they are being caused please let me know because I don't know what they could be. My phone (should) still be under warranty (if you ignore the root) so I may want to call ATT especially if its a hardware prblem
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It sounds like a bad flash and you may want to wipe and reflash. As for the GPS I am on Sky ICS 6B and the GPS is glitchy frequently. For example today I wanted to look up directions to a restaurant down the street and the GPS thought I was 2,000 miles away in Vegas (I wish lol). I tryed it again tonight and the gps is working. I don't know how to fix the gps problem and we may just have to wait for updates in the rom, but as for the other systems it sounds like a bad flash as I described before. Anyone else think this?
vincecr said:
I have been having trouble with my i727 over the past few weeks. It has shown 3 different problems which are really starting to bug me. The three problems are not related but I have condensed them into one thread. Please pardon me as I am pretty noobish with the software end of things.
1. Glitchy when charging. Any time I plug in a charger the screen and softkeys freeze up. I have to hold the power button for a while to get it to unlock. When it is not frozen. The screen is messed up. Sometimes I tap with one finger or slide to unlock and it zooms as if in multitouch. One time I tried to dial a 3 in a phone number and it dialed 374 just randomly on its own. I don't know if the charger is messing something up in this. Note: This started happening after I rooted for the first time but has been consistent through the many roms I have had. I'm pretty sure its not skyics. Do I need to call ATT for this
2. Also my GPS has been taking a really long time to fix if not at all. I normally use it in maps but if I open a simple gps coordinates read out app. Sometimes the GPS fails to start. I don't know if it is a skyics issue or if I have a hardware issue. Any input would be helpful
3. Lastly, its not really a big deal and is probably a simple fix but I have tried everything. I use dolphin browser and everytime I search google it thinks I am in canada and no matter how many times a change it. It always reverts to canada.
If you have experienced these issues or if you know why they are being caused please let me know because I don't know what they could be. My phone (should) still be under warranty (if you ignore the root) so I may want to call ATT especially if its a hardware prblem
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First if you are on a Custom Rom, try updating it or reinstall the current rom. Delete Caches, and try again
for GPS, Maybe try another GPS app such as my favorite CoPilot
And for browsers I would switch to another browser, I am currently test three at the moment, Chrome, Puffin, and Opera. I must say Puffin is simple and fast, while I use opera on my Desktop so I would prefer Opera. Try it out might just be the browser.
Could be just settings in the browser that is set to Canada English Language settings.
Well I hope I helped some what. :cyclops:
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It sounds like a bad flash and you may want to wipe and reflash. As for the GPS I am on Sky ICS 6B and the GPS is glitchy frequently. For example today I wanted to look up directions to a restaurant down the street and the GPS thought I was 2,000 miles away in Vegas (I wish lol). I tryed it again tonight and the gps is working. I don't know how to fix the gps problem and we may just have to wait for updates in the rom, but as for the other systems it sounds like a bad flash as I described before. Anyone else think this?
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I've had the exact same problem with the GPS on Sky ICS 6B, and I thought it was just me because no one has listed it as a known issue! I guess it's time to try a different ROM.
As far as the glitches while charging - are you using the supplied Samsung charger that came with the phone? This phone is highly sensitive to ANY other charger not designed specifically for the i727.
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vincecr said:
I have been having trouble with my i727 over the past few weeks. It has shown 3 different problems which are really starting to bug me. The three problems are not related but I have condensed them into one thread. Please pardon me as I am pretty noobish with the software end of things.
1. Glitchy when charging. Any time I plug in a charger the screen and softkeys freeze up. I have to hold the power button for a while to get it to unlock. When it is not frozen. The screen is messed up. Sometimes I tap with one finger or slide to unlock and it zooms as if in multitouch. One time I tried to dial a 3 in a phone number and it dialed 374 just randomly on its own. I don't know if the charger is messing something up in this. Note: This started happening after I rooted for the first time but has been consistent through the many roms I have had. I'm pretty sure its not skyics. Do I need to call ATT for this
2. Also my GPS has been taking a really long time to fix if not at all. I normally use it in maps but if I open a simple gps coordinates read out app. Sometimes the GPS fails to start. I don't know if it is a skyics issue or if I have a hardware issue. Any input would be helpful
3. Lastly, its not really a big deal and is probably a simple fix but I have tried everything. I use dolphin browser and everytime I search google it thinks I am in canada and no matter how many times a change it. It always reverts to canada.
If you have experienced these issues or if you know why they are being caused please let me know because I don't know what they could be. My phone (should) still be under warranty (if you ignore the root) so I may want to call ATT especially if its a hardware prblem
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I'm pretty sure the Canada problem has to do with Sky ICS as well, because my phone seems to do the same thing!
Bealzibooze said:
I've had the exact same problem with the GPS on Sky ICS 6B, and I thought it was just me because no one has listed it as a known issue! I guess it's time to try a different ROM.
As far as the glitches while charging - are you using the supplied Samsung charger that came with the phone? This phone is highly sensitive to ANY other charger not designed specifically for the i727.
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I find the opposite in my experience. When using my Samsung charger (usually at weird angles though because charge & use while in bed) it disconnects rather often , while my Atrix 2 charger stays connected without issue. As I said though it may just be the obnoxious angles the cord gets put in. As for the GPS I was also surprised to see little to no complaints about issues with it.
vincecr said:
1. Glitchy when charging. Any time I plug in a charger the screen and softkeys freeze up. I have to hold the power button for a while to get it to unlock. When it is not frozen. The screen is messed up. Sometimes I tap with one finger or slide to unlock and it zooms as if in multitouch. One time I tried to dial a 3 in a phone number and it dialed 374 just randomly on its own. I don't know if the charger is messing something up in this. Note: This started happening after I rooted for the first time but has been consistent through the many roms I have had. I'm pretty sure its not skyics. Do I need to call ATT for this
2. Also my GPS has been taking a really long time to fix if not at all. I normally use it in maps but if I open a simple gps coordinates read out app. Sometimes the GPS fails to start. I don't know if it is a skyics issue or if I have a hardware issue. Any input would be helpful
3. Lastly, its not really a big deal and is probably a simple fix but I have tried everything. I use dolphin browser and everytime I search google it thinks I am in canada and no matter how many times a change it. It always reverts to canada.
If you have experienced these issues or if you know why they are being caused please let me know because I don't know what they could be. My phone (should) still be under warranty (if you ignore the root) so I may want to call ATT especially if its a hardware prblem
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1. There's a few posts over in the ICS threads that talk about charging issues. Do a search for those (stock charger, etc) and see if any of the symptoms match yours.
Frankly, I think you have a bad flash, as someone else mentioned. IMO its best that you backup your pics, videos, music, etc, then wipe both your internal and external SD cards, then load ICS on your ext SD and start over completely from the beginning. No restoring backups from TB, either. Take the extra time and reload everything from the app store and set them up manually.
Case in point, Seanscreamz mentioned in the 4.0.4 thread that he accidentally wiped his emmc (internal SD) and after reload it fixed some glitchy weirdness.
2 & 3 are related. Your browser is using your map data, and so does your GPS if you have that turned on in settings. Fix one, you fix the other. I had the GPS issue in SkyICS as well. Go into the maps app, clear data and clear cache. Immediately reboot the phone into recovery, wipe dalvik and cache from there. Reboot. Since the phone has to rebuild the davlik cache, it takes awhile to come back up.
That fixed my issue (even if some steps were unnecessary, it can't hurt).
If you do flatten and reload the phone, don't forget to install Busybox and run Fix Permissions after you install the update.
Good luck!