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ok so I was sitting at home when i looked down, phone was auto sync'ing. I was like ok cool
well a little bit later it looked down and it was doing it again...?
Thats when it hit me. we need a program that controls when everything autosyncs, like contacts and calender once a week or once a day and email every so many hours.
if I know what the hell i was doing I would go and create a program to do this, but unfortunately I dont so I cant.
anyone share my dilemma? auto-sync drains the battery but i dont want to turn it completely off, just delay it every X amount of hours.
THANKS
dtmcnamara said:
ok so I was sitting at home when i looked down, phone was auto sync'ing. I was like ok cool
well a little bit later it looked down and it was doing it again...?
Thats when it hit me. we need a program that controls when everything autosyncs, like contacts and calender once a week or once a day and email every so many hours.
if I know what the hell i was doing I would go and create a program to do this, but unfortunately I dont so I cant.
anyone share my dilemma? auto-sync drains the battery but i dont want to turn it completely off, just delay it every X amount of hours.
THANKS
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Mine does this with the contacts, so I only turn contact sync on if i make a change to the contacts. Calendar sync happens invisible pretty much. Contact sync was draining my battery real bad so I disabled it.
ranger7424 said:
Mine does this with the contacts, so I only turn contact sync on if i make a change to the contacts. Calendar sync happens invisible pretty much. Contact sync was draining my battery real bad so I disabled it.
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Between this and turning off cell location my battery life has been phenomenal.
So i just got a Samsung i780 and after charging the first battery i put it in and started up the phone.
However i was stunned to find that the standby time was less than 7 hrs!!
Samsung says 400hrs standby, but now ive tried both the batteries that came with the phone and i did an xperiment, by charging the battery to a 100% before i went to bed and then leave the phone in standby.
When i woke up next morning the phone had shut off and couldnt be turned back until i either connected the ext power or replaced the battery.
This goes for both the batteries and the phone is like 2 days old, and no i didnt charge the batteries half way at any point, they were at less than 30% when i recharged them and charged to 100% before i started to use them. :-(
Also i made sure the WiFi wasnt on and i set every powersaving feature to save as much power as possible by lowering the display light to the lowest setting and have it shut off the display after the shortest period of time if the device is not in use etc etc etc...
My old HP Ipaq 6515 with WM 2003 never did anything like this and that one still has a standby time of approx 90hrs, but also the powersaving features in the old WM03 is more simple and apparently works better.
Also, when i start up the Samsung after replacing the battery, i cant change the ldc brightness, nothing happens when i choose another setting, the screen stays at the lowest setting of brightness, until i reset the phone, then it works properly.
My god i thought my old Ipaq was flawed and annoying with its way of suddenly turning itself off now and then due to the batt cover being crap, but this is almost worse!
So plz anyone who has any idea/suggestions, lemme know as this is really getting to me! :-D
Thx in advance!!
Maybe a rom upgrade will solve your problems
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Maybe a rom upgrade will solve your problems
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Well it maybe will, but where will i get that?
I go to Samsung and under products i choose my phone model, then i go to "Support and downloads" and theres only a bunch of manuals in pdf and then activesync 4.5 available. :-(
Also i just noticed under the power adjustment theres an option that will shut off the display during a call 5 secs after the call has begun.
However bneneath it it says, that the phone wont shut the disp off unless the phone is in "inactive mode" whatever that means, i havent come accross anything anywhere with a possibility to enable "inactive mode"
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Well it maybe will, but where will i get that?
I go to Samsung and under products i choose my phone model, then i go to "Support and downloads" and theres only a bunch of manuals in pdf and then activesync 4.5 available. :-(
Also i just noticed under the power adjustment theres an option that will shut off the display during a call 5 secs after the call has begun.
However bneneath it it says, that the phone wont shut the disp off unless the phone is in "inactive mode" whatever that means, i havent come accross anything anywhere with a possibility to enable "inactive mode"
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Inactive mode i think is the one when you press the power button to shout down the display.
You can find a lot of infos about roms searching "i780" on this forum.
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Inactive mode i think is the one when you press the power button to shout down the display.
You can find a lot of infos about roms searching "i780" on this forum.
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Thx mate, in that case thats not a problem, i mean the "inactive mode" i always use that, a habit from my old Ipaq which didnt run for too long with the display on. :lol:
I found a rom upgrade to version 6.1, however i could only find it in english, but thatll have to do for now, because whats the "correct" language worth if the device cant stay turned on for more than 4 hrs? ;-)
Geeez this is freaking me out now, i try to do the upg to 6.1 and the upgrader needs to verify the deviee, so it verifies it and alerts me about it and say "Press ok to reset the device", the phone restrts and meanwhilke the upgrader throws this in my face: "Time-out. Unable to access device. Try again".
So i tried again and the same thing happend. Pfffft.... Boohoo!! :lol:
Have you installed the drivers, activesync etc.? Is your battery fully charged?
What drivers? afaik the ain no drivers, but yes i have the Mobile Device center installed and that works perfectly.
As started earlier:
This goes for both the batteries and the phone is like 2 days old, and no i didnt charge the batteries half way at any point, they were at less than 30% when i recharged them and charged to 100% before i started to use them. :-(
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Okay, I have an Imagio (please don't judge me ) and like many of you TP2 owners, the only real complaint I have about the phone is the battery life.
For me, I rely heavily on the device as a phone first (no big surprise, right?), email second, and then text and internet. Based on how I use my phone, I think the biggest contributor to my quick battery drain is the fact I have to leave my data connection 'on' to auto send/receive email.
I'm interested to know if there's a tweak or something out there that would allow me to leave my data 'off', automatically turn it 'on' to send/receive email at my specified interval, and then turn it 'off' again once completed. I know I could do that manually but was curious if there's something out there that could run in the background.
Also, thinking about it, has anyone looked into changing the weather tab uppdate time? I'm also wondering if the weather sync feature is sucking battery power?
Ok, my TP2 with Telus I have on data all the time, with push email (so more frequently goes active) and have no problems at all with battery usage. I can go several days between charges, but don't because I plug my phone in every night anyway.
How much talk time do you have on the phone on an average day? How many emails do you recieve? Is it exchange based on POP/IMAP?
You can easily set up the email sync itself to be manual, i.e. open your email app and click on send/recv - this way it won't hop on itself to grab emails all the time which will help with your battery life, but not really by much.
Similarly just set the weather application not to update automatically.
Keep in mind that a single phone call (on average) lasts about 3 minutes, a single data session lasts only a few seconds.
But even if you still want it to send/recv at a specified interval then when the connection is dormant (i.e. in between scheduled send/recv) it's not really taking any more power than if it was "offline" - this is just a state that both ends know, not an always-active transmit/receive when there is no actual data.
If you really need more battery life then just wait a few seconds when you check your email or the weather for it to go online and grab the data on demand.
Thanks for the reply Telek. Since I've had the phone, my talk time per day has been pretty low, relatively speaking. I seem to notice the drain after the phone's been sitting idle. I charge daily but if I didn't, I'm guessing I wouldn't come near several days on a single one.
I do get poor reception while I'm in my house and I'm thinking that might have something to do with it. What you wrote about the data connection while inactive makes a lot of sense - I should probably be looking elsewhere.
Also, my phone is set to CDMA only in case any viewers are thinking of asking the question.
Well poorer reception will hurt battery life, but only while the phone is active. CDMA signals all have to reach the tower at the same strength (IIRC) so if a phone has poorer reception it will have to up it's broadcast power.
How many emails are you getting daily? Is it feasible to just go to "on demand" and manually do a send/recv to see if that helps your battery life?
It's possible that the phone isn't going into sleep mode, or times out at a much longer interval than normal. Perhaps try going into the power management page and shrinking the timeouts?
Not sure what else to suggest - maybe you just have a bad battery?
I am in the same boat here. Although I use pop and don't get that much email. I use it as a phone, text, then data. Just through a days use, sometimes not making a phone call at all my battery will be near death. I HAVE to charge it daily. I have a car charger, charger at work, and 2 chargers at home so I always can charge so it isn't that big of a deal for me. My signal strength is normally above 70% through my house and work.
I am ready to try out a new rom to see if that makes a difference.
PS not trying to thread steal but throwing out some info that might help.
I have to charge my TP2 like 3 times a day. Between Twitter, email, and reading on the net it goes pretty fast.
My battery life isnt too good either...I have email set to check every 2 hours. If i browse the net for about 15 minutes I lose a notch in battery life. I have to charge every night too!!
I got the 2100 extended battery in the mail today, im going to try it out and see how it does...if it's not a big improvement then im sending it back...the extended battery cover is ugly and slightly bulky so I dont like that to well...
Has anyone fooled around with the power management settings in ATC? If so, any notable changes worht exploring?
Well for my usage on a Sprint Touch Pro 2, I get good battery life. I make maybe 10 calls a day but each call is less than 2 minutes.
I surf the web maybe an hour a day and send + receive maybe 75-100 texts a day. I dont check my email to often.
Maybe 3 times a day I press Send/Receive but after I finish my stuff, I go to Communications and turn off my Data Connection.
At the end of the day I have about 60%. Although I have my backlight set at 30%. Others like it halfway and others fully set.
30% is ok for me indoors but once outside I turn it up to 80% if I really need too but then set it back to 30% once indoors.
Some solutions to Imagio battery drain
My 1st Imagio had no problem with battery, but the "end" key broke so I had a replacement sent. The replacement had nicks on screen and major battery drain, with overnight charge, by 3:00pm I had 5% left. So I sent for 2nd replacement. Same problem with the battery, fully drained by midday. Frustrated, I went to Verizon and requested replacement battery. All seemed well at first. Then, the new battery began to drain. I started eliminating programs running and now, at 10:00pm, I still have 72%, I talked, texted, sent pic mssg, got email, updated weather...etc. This is what I changed.
I turned the phone to CDMA only.
I changed input back to default HTC qwerty (I had sip change to swype)
I set email to check once a day, but I hit send/receive periodically
I set weather to check once a day.
Sorry, but I also uninstalled "codyppc performance booster"
I reinabled Auto Divice lock. (this seemed to help save battery by locking)
I am running spb mobile shell 3.5 and WM 6.5 interface. Whenever I run the HTC Touchflo3D it seems to drain more battery, along with suck up memory.
I check running applications often, reset a couple times a day. I am having an issue with my spb time alarm going off in the morning though. I will try something tonight to eliminate that as the culprit. Overall, I think anything set to run regularly will drain the battery. With these fixes, now I LOVE THIS PHONE. I have all my programs on it, lots of program and storage memory left, (more than I had out of the box) tweaked just the way I like. Hope this helps someone.
Please don't forget Clean Ram(search xda) , helped me alot.
If you dont care about push email and syncing contacts (most of us arent that important) I highly recommend turning off "Always on data" in the wireless settings. This time of day I am normally around 60% battery left (sometimes less) when I have it on... with it off? Im hovering around 92% battery and my phone started at 97% this morning because of the charger bug...
Basically if you turn this off, your phones DATA radio shuts off after 10 minutes of sleep. Gtalk, Gmail, contacts, calendar will not auto-push at this point, nor will any of your other apps (but who cares the phone is off). The work around for GTalk is simple - use trillian or Beejive which utilize Google Push messaging. Basically when you wake your phone, you instantly get all the missed IMs since both chat apps save your IMs on the server until you are available to push to. Android is awesome with reconnecting 3G and it happens in less than 2 seconds.
If you care about battery, check this out. Id rather have battery last 2 days than auto syncing contacts and gmail. Plus you can setup the standard email app to check your email for you since that doesnt require push (will check email when you wake it up).
Anyone else had success with this? I have considered it but haven't pulled the trigger yet.
I tried different sync settings with time, moving between checking for emails every 15-30 minutes as well as hourly, wasn't too much of a difference. I've turned off background data, but I haven't checked to see if turning off all data works. If I can find this setting I'll definitely try it tonight
I'm going to try this in a few minutes...once I get off this call. I hate being put on hold!
Best way to save battery is to turn off 4G (run only 3G). Why would I want my data off all the time. With 3G only I get over 20 hours battery life consistently with data on.
Am I the only one that can't find this setting? I went to settings and wireless & networks but don't see always on data.Never mind I found it in mobile networks.
Click on mobile networks. It's in there.
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I guess I am lucky, I have gotten great battery life even with 4g on. I have noticed if you are in a bad 4g area that toggles to 3g a lot this will kill your battery. I live in a great 4g area and never bounce back and forth.
I've done this on all my android phones, it makes an enormous difference. Android OS keeps an always-on data session, and all the Google services are constantly talking to their servers like gmail, market updater, talk, Google voice, etc. Turn off mobile data with a toggle widget until you actually need data is by far the best way to save huge battery.
Other phones such as the iPhone do not work this way. Instead the data session only initiates when you do some thing that needs it, such as opening the web browser. After closing the browser the data session terminates. Of course push email would keep it on all the time. But stock setup does not.
Android just keeps it on all the time.
What charging bug?
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If you dont care about push email and syncing contacts (most of us arent that important) I highly recommend turning off "Always on data" in the wireless settings. This time of day I am normally around 60% battery left (sometimes less) when I have it on... with it off? Im hovering around 92% battery and my phone started at 97% this morning because of the charger bug...
Basically if you turn this off, your phones DATA radio shuts off after 10 minutes of sleep. Gtalk, Gmail, contacts, calendar will not auto-push at this point, nor will any of your other apps (but who cares the phone is off). The work around for GTalk is simple - use trillian or Beejive which utilize Google Push messaging. Basically when you wake your phone, you instantly get all the missed IMs since both chat apps save your IMs on the server until you are available to push to. Android is awesome with reconnecting 3G and it happens in less than 2 seconds.
If you care about battery, check this out. Id rather have battery last 2 days than auto syncing contacts and gmail. Plus you can setup the standard email app to check your email for you since that doesnt require push (will check email when you wake it up).
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Will have to try this out. One thing Im missing on this phone that I had on my Droidx is power profiles. I made a profile that turned off data after 30 mins. This saved a crazy amount of battery. I cant bring my phone into work, so I leave it in the car.
On the Droid X, if I let it keep the data session always on, Id be down to like 50 percent battery with the phone sitting doing nothing all day (about 9 hrs). By having the data turn off after 30 mins, the phone would be at 80 percent at the end of the day.
I replaced my texting plan with Google Voice. This isn't an option for me.
I usually just leave it on 1X if its just sitting in my pocket and I don't need speed.
Are people seeing good battery gains with all the bloatware removed? I have root but I haven't gotten around to removing the Verizon bloat
edit: Now that I think about it, 1X could be a bigger power drain than EVDO. Hmm
I have to agree no need to turn of data. Use anycut to create a toggle widget and just put it on 3g. I use my phone from moderate to heavy and am still at over 60% on battery that's better than my Droid x. Let's face it 4G eats up battery but seriously when do you need besides when downloading things or for when netflix comes out or tethering. But for just normal use I don't even notice a difference when it comes to browsing.
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this is the most retarded thread. why the f would i go and buy a smart phone that is meant for push email and fast 4g internet and disable all that ****. either live with the **** battery life, live with a thicker phone and get a extended battery or return the **** for a dumb phone.
I am not in a 4g area but with my screen brightness turned down and the HTC weather sync turned off I am easily getting a day. I noticed when I look to see what is taking the juice its mainly the screen.
ddarvish said:
this is the most retarded thread. why the f would i go and buy a smart phone that is meant for push email and fast 4g internet and disable all that ****. either live with the **** battery life, live with a thicker phone and get a extended battery or return the **** for a dumb phone.
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You turn it off for times when you know you need to save power. If I'm out drinking at the bar for 4 hours, kill data and my phone is still at 98% after 4 hours. If I turn it off during a work day I still have 85% after 9 hours. The saving is enormous.
Since its only a 1 click toggle on your home screen, it makes no sense to avoid using this advantage.
Of course 99% of the time I leave data on. But when I know I'll need it, I use it.
ddarvish said:
this is the most retarded thread. why the f would i go and buy a smart phone that is meant for push email and fast 4g internet and disable all that ****. either live with the **** battery life, live with a thicker phone and get a extended battery or return the **** for a dumb phone.
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Great post, I can see you will be a helpful addition to this community...
Back on topic, guys this phone has been out for what? 2 weeks? Relax, trust me, kernel development was great on the INC, I could easily get a day & a half out of my phone on the stock 1300mah battery. Once we get the kernel source for the TB, and the devs start to work on that, you will notice battery life improve significantly. Until then 4g is a big reason, so keep that off if you don't need it. Syncing always has been, either make it manual sync, or keep it at long updating intervals.
Great post, I can see you will be a helpful addition to this community...
ROTFLMAO!
Definitely gonna try this out.
Hi which activity in anycut do i have to use for this to conserve battery?
Hello folks!
Ive been studying my friend's camera godzilla and noticed one thing - the upper part of the phone really heats up on usage. Even on apps like whatsapp, messaging, viber, etc. So I wondered. Why? Simple apps, that have no 3D rendering should not heat up the cpu much. So I started testing. The phone started to heat up when you typed a lot. Hmm maybe the cause is a lot of data sending/recieving via the GSM module, and its heating up? Nope, turned out, it was not GSM..
So, how the idea got to me...
I was watching this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfkkShYcbUM and got amazed: so much information is being processed when you type a single letter: the CPU has not only to search the entire dictionary to try to predict, it also has to to constantly change the size of each key, so that even if you miss the letter, you will type correctly anyway ( if you dont watch the above vid, you won't understand what im talking about) .
So I thought: " maybe that's the activity that heats up the CPU so much? Searching/predicting/learning ? " Why dont I turn it off?
Seemes I was wright, after turning it off the phone does not heat up anymore on simple apps, like chatting, texting, typing web addresses and so on. And if the phone doesn't heat up - that means battery is being saved.
-> The SOLUTION is to go to Settings-Keyboard settings and turn OFF all the auto predicts, swypes etc. Yes it may hurt usability ( but for me it
feels better when the phone doesn't correct my words)
So that's just words, you would say, how about numbers?
I tested this theory on L1020, on L1320, on L920 and on L620. All gave me double battery lifetime on messaging. The test was being held on WP8.1 developer preview latest update ( came on 16.05.14 or so) , in Group Chat ( microsoft's messenger in People Hub). L 1320 gave me 8 hours of chatting on Auto brightness, being on 3G ( full signal ) after disabling keyboard's "smart" technologies. The phone did not heat up, lasted twice longer ( yep, this is ugly, I have L1320, which is supposed to give like 10 hours of "screen on" and it held like 4 hours on simple chatter ).
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Try it, if it helps to save battery and your hands ( Lumias can get pretty hot eww ), tell others!
P.S. : I dont know if anyone has posted this before. And if I posted it in the right forum. I'm just happy as a little kid- finding this workaround to solve batt. problems.
Ive noticed the same issue regarding the top of the phone heating up. Your theory is worth trying out. Ill get back to you soon after testing.
Thank you for your Thread.
But the most annoying thing is the drain on standby. I'm actual always at about ~10% over night.
Tried so many things but nothing helps I miss the 1% from my S3 days
yeah tried it and nother happens :laugh: