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[Q] Notification light

Guys,
My girlfriend just got the XT720. I don't see ANY lights on this thing - power (when charging) or when a text comes in, nothing "flashes". You have to turn on the screen to see if any messages came through.
I've hunted for information and don't see anything telling me that there is actual visual notification on the phone. I carry a Nexus One and the trackball light flashes to tell you that you've missed something. There are 3 dots on the upper left corner of the XT720 just above the screen, and those "may" be lights, but I have no diagrams or information to tell me. If they are lights, they don't work.
Can anyone give me a quick piece of advice on this?
Cheers,
Mark.

No notification lights on this piece. Lol jus vibrate. Lol

easye420 said:
No notification lights on this piece. Lol jus vibrate. Lol
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I was a little disappointed to find out that there were no notifications lights. Coming from a Blackberry I'm used to the red blinky light for notifications. In fact, I had everything on silent except incoming calls - the light was enough to tell me (even from across the room) if there was any notifications. I know you can set the 4 touch sensitive buttons at the bottom to blink...but it's infrequent and they tend to stay off if a notification comes in.
Would it be possible to write a script to make use of the 3 media LEDs on the side for notifications (emails, SMS, missed calls, Facebooks, etc)? I have little to no programming knowledge so I certainly can't - nor do I know if it's even possible.

Hey easye420, thanks for the reply...althought it's not what I was hoping for! LOL I find it difficult to believe there's no blinking light of sorts on this thing.
Riley600, she too is coming from a blackberry and that's her gripe about it. I've been trying to get her onto an android for a while and this was the best device her wireless company offered. I like your idea about a script to do this and think many people would love to have it....especially ex-blackberry users! I'm not a programmer though so can't help in the design I'm afraid.
Thanks also for the note on the back buttons flashing. I'll see if there's a good app to make those blink....just some visual notification that you've missed something. I'd think that would be a standard feature of any of today's phones.
Cheers,
Mark.

mslatter said:
Hey easye420, thanks for the reply...althought it's not what I was hoping for! LOL I find it difficult to believe there's no blinking light of sorts on this thing.
Riley600, she too is coming from a blackberry and that's her gripe about it. I've been trying to get her onto an android for a while and this was the best device her wireless company offered. I like your idea about a script to do this and think many people would love to have it....especially ex-blackberry users! I'm not a programmer though so can't help in the design I'm afraid.
Thanks also for the note on the back buttons flashing. I'll see if there's a good app to make those blink....just some visual notification that you've missed something. I'd think that would be a standard feature of any of today's phones.
Cheers,
Mark.
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No app needed.
Settings --> Sound & Display Settings --> check Visual Notification (and Periodic Notification if you want to get reoccurring notifications).

I forgot bout that. When i had it enabled if i turned to screen on when it was blinkin they would either stay off or stay on and it would piss me off.

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easye420 said:
I forgot bout that. When i had it enabled if i turned to screen on when it was blinkin they would either stay off or stay on and it would piss me off.
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that's a known Motobug. We've reported Moto regarding this issue long ago but till now, no fix is applied.

Thanks for the feedback from everyone. Now I know where this issues stands and what my options are.
Cheers.

I am still curious though, does anyone know if making a script to use the media LED lights for notifications is possible?

Riley600 said:
I am still curious though, does anyone know if making a script to use the media LED lights for notifications is possible?
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Hey Riley600, sorry mate I don't know the answer to that. I would assume it's possible, but not sure how difficult it would be.... maybe someone else knows?

Yes it is possible.
as you know, the xt720 doesn't have multicolor led (other phones has one, which can basically light in 3 different colors).
Anyway, i was playing some times ago and discovered, that the multimedia leds, corresponds to red, green and blue colors
just find the notes i have made:
Code:
/sys# echo 1 > ./bus/platform/devices/notification-led/leds/blue/brightness
camcorder
/sys# echo 1 > ./bus/platform/devices/notification-led/leds/green/brightness
camera
/sys# echo 1 > ./bus/platform/devices/notification-led/leds/red/brightness
gallery
sys/./devices/platform/button-backlight/leds/button-backlight/brightness
four buttons
/sys# echo 0 >./devices/platform/af-led/leds/af-led/brightness
af led
so instead of possible, it seems to be easy (rooted phone assumed)
i have seen several apps, which can deal with notifications (market)
this can be used for the code to deal when to trigger notification
and i use adjbrightness, which works in similar way.
this can be used for the code to trigger the leds
here is an information link to adj brightness.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=731032
edit: actually it can be even easier, but it depends on the /sys entries of a phone with dedicated led. but the idea is the same

peshovec said:
Yes it is possible.
as you know, the xt720 doesn't have multicolor led (other phones has one, which can basically light in 3 different colors).
Anyway, i was playing some times ago and discovered, that the multimedia leds, corresponds to red, green and blue colors
so instead of possible, it seems to be easy (rooted phone assumed)
i have seen several apps, which can deal with notifications (market)
this can be used for the code to deal when to trigger notification
and i use adjbrightness, which works in similar way.
this can be used for the code to trigger the leds
here is an information link to adj brightness.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=731032
edit: actually it can be even easier, but it depends on the /sys entries of a phone with dedicated led. but the idea is the same
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That's great to know that it should be easy. But I'm going to be honest in saying that I'm not an Android expert.
If you would be so kind to give me a set of easy to follow steps (my phone is rooted, I know how to use adb, etc) on how to set something up to blink the media LEDs for notification, your coffees next week will be on me. I don't know how to (or have the ability to) unpack APKs, edit them and repack them. If you can provide a easy to implement solution (some basic editing of an existing program or an APK for me to use), you will not only be my hero - you will also have some more money in your pocket. It sounds like you might be a couple other people's hero in this thread as well.
Thanks!

it is not about money
it is not about coffee (there is just a new espresso machine in the office
it is about time...
so i will go deeper in the very possible and very easy way (i have edited my post above).
i saw some applications on the market , which can do the job (e.g. deal with the led for some events aka notifications ).
the easiest way is to find a phone, when they worked as expected.
then on this phone, to find the corresponding entries in the /sys folder, which deals with the leds, and just try some symbolic links to our leds
in the easiest way it will be as simple as:
ln -s /sys/bus/platform/devices/notification-led/leds/green/brightness /sys/what_ever_path_is_needed
of course there will be some drawback (e.g. not fully customizable), but it will work.
this method will not require nothing else...
anyway more appropriate way (more time consuming) will be to modify some almost do the job application, to do it for our phones. (actually, to submit patches to the developers regarding support of our phones).
this is the right way (in my opinion). the prerequisites:
1. application which do the job for some phone
2. open source
then:
3. spent some time in code
4. test the patch
5. send it to mainstream
i will be glad to do it for fun, will appreciate help regarding step 1 and 2

peshovec said:
it is not about money
it is not about coffee (there is just a new espresso machine in the office
it is about time...
so i will go deeper in the very possible and very easy way (i have edited my post above).
i saw some applications on the market , which can do the job (e.g. deal with the led for some events aka notifications ).
the easiest way is to find a phone, when they worked as expected.
then on this phone, to find the corresponding entries in the /sys folder, which deals with the leds, and just try some symbolic links to our leds
in the easiest way it will be as simple as:
ln -s /sys/bus/platform/devices/notification-led/leds/green/brightness /sys/what_ever_path_is_needed
of course there will be some drawback (e.g. not fully customizable), but it will work.
this method will not require nothing else...
anyway more appropriate way (more time consuming) will be to modify some almost do the job application, to do it for our phones. (actually, to submit patches to the developers regarding support of our phones).
this is the right way (in my opinion). the prerequisites:
1. application which do the job for some phone
2. open source
then:
3. spent some time in code
4. test the patch
5. send it to mainstream
i will be glad to do it for fun, will appreciate help regarding step 1 and 2
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I'll be happy to help out where I can - but as I said earlier, my knowledge is limited.
in the easiest way it will be as simple as:
ln -s /sys/bus/platform/devices/notification-led/leds/green/brightness /sys/what_ever_path_is_needed
of course there will be some drawback (e.g. not fully customizable), but it will work.
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I have a basic idea of what you're saying here. I used Root Explorer to navigate to /sys/bus/platform/devices/notification-led. It appears as a empty file, though. I'm not sure if the ln -s is a command or what. Would you be able to elaborate a little?
And this method would obviously not allow for the setting of a custom blinking interval, etc. Being able to set something like that would be awesome - but right now I'll take whatever I can get.

Or would it be possible to change the settings for the key backlight blink to one of the media LEDs? Perhaps by moving or changing one of the system files?

I use "Missed Reminder" for calls, emails and sms. Works fine.

ralfbonne said:
I use "Missed Reminder" for calls, emails and sms. Works fine.
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This doesn't work for the LEDs, though - does it?

Not the LEDs for camera etc. But for the LEDs of the Home-key ...

Solution: LED me know
mslatter said:
Guys,
My girlfriend just got the XT720. I don't see ANY lights on this thing - power (when charging) or when a text comes in, nothing "flashes". You have to turn on the screen to see if any messages came through.
I've hunted for information and don't see anything telling me that there is actual visual notification on the phone. I carry a Nexus One and the trackball light flashes to tell you that you've missed something. There are 3 dots on the upper left corner of the XT720 just above the screen, and those "may" be lights, but I have no diagrams or information to tell me. If they are lights, they don't work.
Can anyone give me a quick piece of advice on this?
Cheers,
Mark.
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Solution found!
An app called 'LED me know' by p0w4p0ty (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=837057) is able to use the 3 media lights to signal notifications. So far I've found it works for Gmail, SMS and missed calls - but I believe it supports other notifications as well. At this moment, it doesn't seem to work for Gtalk notifications. It's highly customizable (you can set each one of the 3 media lights to blink [corresponding to red, green and blue] or you can set them to blink in combinations [2 lights for cyan and 3 lights for white]). I should mention that the phone needs to be rooted in order for this to work with the XT720.
I'm very pleased with it so far and it's free (in fact I'm looking across the room right now and see that I have a SMS).

[Q] Disable SMS wakeup / notification pop-up on WP7

Hi Everyone,
I have searched Google and must say I can't find any solution for changing SMS WakeUp / Notification pop-up.
It is so annoying when the screen lights up.
I would also like to be able to disable that it shows the message in the top statusbar.
I have unlocked my phone by finding the "ChevronWP7" unlocker tool and send (by e-mail) the "ChevronCert" to my WP7 HTC Trophy and installed the certificate. Downloaded "Tom XAP Installer v1.2.zip" and installed "RegistryEditor 1.1.0.0.xap" where I have tried several registry fixes found on different websites: "modify-sms-notifications-in-windows-phone-7" but nothing worked also found a solution here and the same again nothing i working:
[HK_LOCAL_MACHINE\Drivers\BuiltIn\RIL]
"DisableSMSWakeUpEvent"=dword:1
Could someone help out I would really appreciate....
Thanks.

Bump please

Bump...Lookin for the same thing

Sorry guys, but why would you want this? I hate it on my Android. I have to push the power button every single time, which in turn, kills my hardware buttons.
At least you guys go to your lockscreen with a notification at the top, I had to download an app to wake the screen and it bypasses the lockscreen and I text/call people every single day lol. I wish it would just GO TO THE LOCKSCREEN!!!

Privacy, of course!
Bump.
@Dj21o: With respoect, I can think of at least one good reason why this setting should be "settable" and that is privacy. I may be in an environment where I don't want just anyone to be able to see an SMS as it arrives just by looking at my screen.
The fact that you would prefer it this way is, of course, good, too, but I think ther choice should be in the hands of the user.
Don't youy agree?

tEcHiOr said:
Bump.
@Dj21o: With respoect, I can think of at least one good reason why this setting should be "settable" and that is privacy. I may be in an environment where I don't want just anyone to be able to see an SMS as it arrives just by looking at my screen.
The fact that you would prefer it this way is, of course, good, too, but I think ther choice should be in the hands of the user.
Don't youy agree?
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Yeah, it should be available for those that want it, and for those who don't... It is a simple setting that make it a big deal for users, and I can totally see where you are coming from. Sometimes my phone unlocks, and that is swiping left to right. I imagine it happens much more swiping up lol.
There is a site where you can put down ideas for developers to look at, and people vote for them. I can post the link of the site if you want.
Here is the site, you can post your ideas accordingly to what type of idea it is.
http://wpdev.uservoice.com/forums/110705-app-platform

I just want to know exactly why you want this? Yes it can be abit bright at the first glimpse but isn't there a bigger risk for falling asleep if you just press a button, instead of actually opening your eyes?
Nothing against what you like/dislike, I'm just asking, why.

furfree said:
I just want to know exactly why you want this? Yes it can be abit bright at the first glimpse but isn't there a bigger risk for falling asleep if you just press a button, instead of actually opening your eyes?
Nothing against what you like/dislike, I'm just asking, why.
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I want it too because I have Whatsapp group where people keep messaging all the time. And the screen remains on all the time. which simple means that my battery drain faster because screen is always on.

takerhbk said:
I want it too because I have Whatsapp group where people keep messaging all the time. And the screen remains on all the time. which simple means that my battery drain faster because screen is always on.
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I have the same problem
Any news about this???

So, disable Toast notifications in WhatsApp? That's a (required) per-app setting, no need to request an OS feature for it!

Why you don't flip you phone down? If proximity sensor detect something close to phone display it will don't turn display on when toast notification pop-up.

<Request> SMS/MMS Alert indictor light

Just putting it out there for a dev to look into it. I am looking for something that would notify for messaging if you miss the initial alert. That is probably the one thing I really liked about the Atrix. Maybe have the bottom soft buttons illuminate and stay lit until its cleared. I know someone had it working on the Dell Streak, but I can't find anything on the market that works in that way.

it was in the works before. BLN but i dont think anybody has worked on it anymore since it wasnt working right.

I really hope someone picks it back up again, or someone can suggest something from the market.

Optimus-Prime said:
it was in the works before. BLN but i dont think anybody has worked on it anymore since it wasnt working right.
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BLN stands for ???
The lack of any form of notification lights on this phone is one of the few things I don't like about it. That said, I had the same limitation with xdandroid since it didn't support the Tilt2's LEDs for any purpose other than indicating sleep state so I'm kind of used to it.

BLN = backlight notification
It was/is a kernal feature to use 4 capacitive buttons as a notification light.
you can find it in an older Defuse kernal, but I wouldn't recommend it. It was removed due to random bugs.

Install GO SMS. It has an option for repeat alerts for messages. And its free.

led notification

im late returnig text sometimes because it only blinks three times per min. Anyway to make it blink longer?

Only way I know to do it is to use Handcent SMS. They're the only ones who seem to have figured out the Sidekick's LEDs.

I'm in the same boat. I know that Handcent can manipulate the LEDs, but damn, for some reason I love the look of the stock messaging app.

it would be nice to be able to chance the led colors and req of its blink. i miss it from the old ones, and cant stand the new ones led blink feq. argg. handcent though like he said.

Man, I use gosms pro. I hope they can maipulate leds also. I don't like using handcent.

Yea huh
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I would like to have more specific control of the LEDs also. I use Gmail's app for all my email functions and ignore the built-in app. However it will not control the LED lights for incoming messages at all! Also I would love to see more frequent messages (or make it selectable).
So many things on the phone, including LEDs, are forced settings without much user control at all (unlike the Danger OS Sidekicks). I hope Rooting (which I hope to do in the next few weeks) will take care of some of these issues.

Things are being worked on, but the developer base is unfortunately small. We started out with the big issues, like the power menu and lockscreens, and are currently working on people's requests, an OC kernel and vibrate &silent in vol rocker. It's on the list of things to do, as it bothers most everyone, just isn't as big an issue, so it's slightly lower on the list.

sduvick said:
Things are being worked on, but the developer base is unfortunately small. We started out with the big issues, like the power menu and lockscreens, and are currently working on people's requests, an OC kernel and vibrate &silent in vol rocker. It's on the list of things to do, as it bothers most everyone, just isn't as big an issue, so it's slightly lower on the list.
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Ah, so its being paid attention too. i've really got to learn to dev so i can start tackling these things myself.

If nothing else, it's on my list.

im working on this now im doing my best im new at this but ill try to get a fix!

tylermaciaszek said:
im working on this now im doing my best im new at this but ill try to get a fix!
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i have time tonight, so im going to try to see what i can do about it as well, we're both new to it but if i find anything i think is important ill pm you so we can do this quickly.

Good to see more people trying to jump in! That's the best way to do it, that's how I did it, just poke around at things, you can always just odin back to stock.
If you have any questions, I'll do my best to help, I should be around, PM me if you need anything.

sduvick said:
Good to see more people trying to jump in! That's the best way to do it, that's how I did it, just poke around at things, you can always just odin back to stock.
If you have any questions, I'll do my best to help, I should be around, PM me if you need anything.
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do you know what permissions or something that controls the LED'S becaude obviously they have the power to flash more than 3 times! samsung has just decided to screw with us. in other words what does cyangoen mod and handcent change that allows the LED to blink more

basically what you need to do is edit the settings to have a menu that allows for different timing for the LED's, and then point the LEDs to that menu when they want to flash.

sduvick said:
basically what you need to do is edit the settings to have a menu that allows for different timing for the LED's, and then point the LEDs to that menu when they want to flash.
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alright thanks ill try a few more things!

I hear handcent got the leds working for our sidekicks. Maybe there's a way to look into that for some code or something.

The problem isn't getting it working, it's getting the notification to send the correct setting. the LEDs already work just fine.
I suppose that you could edit mms.apk instead of settings, and you could add the setting in there.

thanks for the lead ill check that out now and i already looked in handcent im still looking!

I'll try decompiling the mms.apk and see if maybe I can find it easily.

Supercharged v4 has a mysterious flashing LED

Hi. I'm posting this here because I figure the Supercharged thread in the dev area isn't a support thread. ;-)
So I flashed Supercharged v4 last week and have had absolutely no problems with it whatsoever. However, I have noticed something that's not a problem, but it is a little distracting, and I hope one of you guys know what's going on...
Ever since flashing the rom, from time to time when my screen is off I'll see the LED flash at two second intervals until I turn the screen back on. But when I turn the screen on I don't see any notifications. Further, when I check each of my apps that have notifications, none of them are set to use the LED... and to top it all off I can't find any system settings that indicate the LED is being used in any way.
It's a mystery. It's not a showstopper but it's a little distracting because it keeps blinking at me and I can't figure out why. Do any of you know why?

Ya so mine does the same thing. Its the light flow app. Its done that before. "Flashing for nothing" I just restart the phone and it hasn't done it again.

Thank you!
I didn't even think to look at light flow. I don't use it... it's a relief to finally know what's going on.

Yeah the Light Flow app is what is doing it. Although I don't think mine has flashed for nothing. It has quite an extensive settings area so might want to edit it so it only goes on when you want it to. You can even change the color of the LED!!! heheeh