Hello,
Is there any differences between cmonex's hardspl 3.29 and JockyW's 3.29?
What is the recommended spl for the latest roms from garmin\hyperdragon\PDACornerUltimate? 3.29 or 3.56?
And for the last question, Anyone here on vodafone germany network and can recommend me a good radio for my network?
Thanks alot!!!
yes. cmonex's has some minor code revisions to make it run more smoothly, if i remember correctly. also, most chefs will tell you which SPL to use for their roms. as far as the radio question, you'll just have to see which works best for you in your area. it seems that most people use the 1.71.09.01 or the 1.65.24.36 kaiser radios, regardless of their location. check out the Ultimate Radio Thread sticky.
This is a redundant thread, you can ask what the recommended spl is for each rom in the thread for that rom, and you can ask the questions about the respective Hardspl's in the thread for those spl's. Thread closed.
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I already install Duttys Dualtouch v4 RTM on my Tilt, is working good, working slowly sometimes,
The radio version is the 1.27
Do u have to change the radio version? where can i get those new versions?
What do you think should i do?
Thanks
Hello,
Read this thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=349375
It contains information about problems and improvements of several radios's
I think you should READ
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=349375
Then ask
I like seeing this, junior's helping junior's. That's something I haven't seen in a while.
Way to go.
Oh my. This is the type of question that could get you killed on this forum. Follow this link to the Kaiser Wiki. I suggest you start by reading the "ROM Flashing FAQ for Newbies". Hopefully you read the flashing instructions and installed HardSPL prior to flashing Dutty's ROM.
How to Select the BEST SPL that matches your ROM
When I was reading the SPL Frequently Asked Question in the wiki.xda.developers I started to search on the topic more and more; I kind of got obsessed with the issues described there by bengalih such as battery drains, power issues, screen freezing see this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=396235
I decided to shift from Hard SPL to Shipped SPL I was running shipped WM 6.0 [1.81.415.2 (radio 1.27.12.11)] at the time. So used the pre-made SPL file manufactured by sirsycho http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=335568 to return to shipped... my phone screen lagging got better and battery life improved slightly… the problem however persisted…
I flashed several ROMs Shipped/Cooked and kept moving between Hard SPLs and Shipped SPLs… my obsession has grown more with performance and between the relationship between SPL and ROM… I even posted a thread but it was closed as being redundant information
Last week I decided I will start doing some real experiments using sirsycho’s excellent guide… I was ripping the Shipped SPLs from Shipped ROMs and flashing them simultaneously trying different Hard SPLs on the Shipped Roms
I was noting the version numbers and apparently a very obvious correlation existed between the version of the SPL and the best ROM. I have observed that the first four characters (I am counting “.” as a character) must be the same to obtain the best ‘marriage’ between your ROM and your SPL
e.g.
If you have the Shipped ROM 1.81.415.2 (radio 1.27.12.11) your best SPL will be 1.81.0000
If you have Shipped ROM 1.56.405.5 (radio 1.27.12.11) your best SPL will be 1.56.0000
If you have Shipped ROM 3.29.707.0 (Radio 1.65.16.25) your best SPL will be 3.29.0000
Now transferring this knowledge to cooked ROMs your base ROM version will determine the Hard SPL you must use. Thus, why HardSPL v3.07, v3.28, v3.29 and v3.56 by JockyW2001 are recommended for WM 6.1 the next question that this thread is attempting to answer is which Hard SPL must be chosen
Concluding Remarks,
To Revert back to Original ROM and Original SPL (Make sure you get the right Couples) for warranty purposes
Cocked ROMs must get the best Hard SPL match for optimal performance
Don’t mix AT&T ROM with htc SPL or vice-versa (I did not try that but I assume poor performance)
Such information might be useful for Hard SPL developers – obviously it seem a new Hard SPL will be needed with each kitchen
Moderators
I genuinely have searched the forum very well before posting and never found any obvious information as described here
-Reserved-
Battery life testing ROM, SPL, Radio
GREAT post, can someone sticky?
there really is some great information in here that i will also test out
thanks - please report your observations here
best wishes,
mbarvian said:
GREAT post, can someone sticky?
there really is some great information in here that i will also test out
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jahrami said:
If you have the Shipped ROM 1.81.415.2 (radio 1.27.12.11) your best SPL will be 1.81.0000
If you have Shipped ROM 1.56.405.5 (radio 1.27.12.11) your best SPL will be 1.56.0000
If you have Shipped ROM 3.29.707.0 (Radio 1.65.16.25) your best SPL will be 3.29.0000
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This is how Jocky created the new 3.xx HardSPL's. He ripped the original SPL from known good ship ROMs, and cracked them.
jahrami said:
Concluding Remarks,
To Revert back to Original ROM and Original SPL (Make sure you get the right Couples) for warranty purposes
Cocked ROMs must get the best Hard SPL match for optimal performance
Don’t mix AT&T ROM with htc SPL or vice-versa (I did not try that but I assume poor performance)
Such information might be useful for Hard SPL developers – obviously it seem a new Hard SPL will be needed with each kitchen
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I use HardSPL 3.56, ripped from an AT&T base, with all custom ROMs I flash. There are no performance issues with HTC-based ROMs. All of the chefs will list the recommended SPL version in their threads, and they rarely match the SPL of the base they used.
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Bengalih created an SPL thread covering this information back in May. But your thread seems to be more concise.
This is still very very useful and provides a nice summary and insight into SPL choices. Well done!
Mr. NotATreoFan
Hello ...
Definitly - JockyW did an excellent job in ripping the original SPLs and cracking them - i was just trying to highlight that SPL/Hard SPL version mut match ROM choice
Cooked ROM and SPL - Chefs don't always point to best matching SPL
About performance - i disagree with you and multi-tasking is the real test if a person use a bad match device becoming sluggish
As for AT&T SPL with htc i was just predicting, i did not tried this [but i do trust your experience]
Battery drain is another issue - i assure you if you use the best match power consumption (standby) increase - i will try to run a benchmark if time allowed
After all - any Hard SPL will work with any ROM (cooked or shipped) it will only need an obsessive person to complain about performance
Thanks for your insight
NotATreoFan said:
This is how Jocky created the new 3.xx HardSPL's. He ripped the original SPL from known good ship ROMs, and cracked them.
I use HardSPL 3.56, ripped from an AT&T base, with all custom ROMs I flash. There are no performance issues with HTC-based ROMs. All of the chefs will list the recommended SPL version in their threads, and they rarely match the SPL of the base they used.
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Bengalih created an SPL thread covering this information back in May. But your thread seems to be more concise.
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Thanks Bro
Moe5508 said:
This is still very very useful and provides a nice summary and insight into SPL choices. Well done!
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Not to be rude or burst any bubbles......
The info you provided is great, if you're flashing BACK to the official ROM for your device or carrier.
If I'm not mistaken, all official ROMs when flashed.....will change the SPL to what it's supposed to be. When doing a warranty return, the last step is removing the HardSPL.
Back to the question of the thread:
How to Select the BEST SPL that matches your ROM ?
The chef should/will tell you within the 1st 3 threads, if not....that would be a valid question to ask that chef in the appropriate thread.
Your SPL needs to match the ROM Build for best performance.
dwny said:
The chef should/will tell you within the 1st 3 threads, if not....that would be a valid question to ask that chef in the appropriate thread.
Your SPL needs to match the ROM Build for best performance.
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Exactly what I said, with the exception of your last sentence. Generally I would agree with you, but for whatever reason, my personal experiences with 3.56.Hard have been the best, regardless of what build the ROM came from.
hello...dwny...
yes - in most cases chefs will point to the best spl when they release a new rom - we are all aware of this fact (but let me ask this question, how many of us using the best spl? dude up to a one month time i was using Olipro Hard SPL with wm 6.1 and i was not the only one for sure... read the signing remarks of people and u will see them using bad spl, bad radio, with a good rom) pls look next time at this BTW my devices info ar out of date
this thread is aimed to answer the question [How to Select the BEST SPL that matches your ROM ?] by each one of us, as i have demonstrated above!
i will try to PM the figures of hard spl (Olipro and JockyW) to get their engineering knowledge on what performance aspect we speak about here.. spl (hard spl) is what save our devices from bricking and apparently it does morw than this - so lets have a better understanding of it
dwny said:
Not to be rude or burst any bubbles......
The info you provided is great, if you're flashing BACK to the official ROM for your device or carrier.
If I'm not mistaken, all official ROMs when flashed.....will change the SPL to what it's supposed to be. When doing a warranty return, the last step is removing the HardSPL.
Back to the question of the thread:
How to Select the BEST SPL that matches your ROM ?
The chef should/will tell you within the 1st 3 threads, if not....that would be a valid question to ask that chef in the appropriate thread.
Your SPL needs to match the ROM Build for best performance.
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jahrami said:
hello...dwny...
yes - in most cases chefs will point to the best spl when they release a new rom - we are all aware of this fact (but let me ask this question, how many of us using the best spl? dude up to a one month time i was using Olipro Hard SPL with wm 6.1 and i was not the only one for sure... read the signing remarks of people and u will see them using bad spl, bad radio, with a good rom) pls look next time at this BTW my devices info ar out of date
this thread is aimed to answer the question [How to Select the BEST SPL that matches your ROM ?] by each one of us, as i have demonstrated above!
i will try to PM the figures of hard spl (Olipro and JockyW) to get their engineering knowledge on what performance aspect we speak about here.. spl (hard spl) is what save our devices from bricking and apparently it does morw than this - so lets have a better understanding of it
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HardSPL allows us to flash whatever ROM we choose & will not uninstall with a flash
The best SPL is the one that comes with the base of the cooked ROM (so they say).
Due to screen freezing, matching the SPL w/ROM became the standard.
I, myself noticed differences when applying the standard. Before then, it was a crap-shoot. We all kept flashing or just dealing with the screen freezing.
NotATreoFan said:
Exactly what I said, with the exception of your last sentence. Generally I would agree with you, but for whatever reason, my personal experiences with 3.56.Hard have been the best, regardless of what build the ROM came from.
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I've been on 3.56 for a while also but the ROMs I've been on required it also except for one ROM and it didn't lockup on me.
Hi all, i got installed HardSPL ver 1.x on my Tilt for use HTC and custom ROMs, but i got a question... what do version 3x of HardSPL? i can flash more ROMs? its better perfomarce 3.x than 1.x? i am a little lost in this aspect
1.x is primarily for the unlocking process, most to ALL Custom roms reccomend 3.29 these days, check with your chef.
Travito said:
1.x is primarily for the unlocking process, most to ALL Custom roms reccomend 3.29 these days, check with your chef.
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not 3.56? i thought this was the newest and "best"...
I am using 3.56 and all works fine...
Did not noticed any difference between 3.29 and 3.56
3.29 SPL is extracted from the 3.29 Kaiser ROM, which until recently has been the latest official Kaiser ROM. (the 3.34 SPL from the newer 3.34 ROM has not been hacked)
3.56 SPL is extracted from the 3.56 Tilt ROM.
Anyway, you could all find these answers in the sticky SPL threads and not make *another* SPL thread.
"Anyway, you could all find these answers in the sticky SPL threads and not make *another* SPL thread."
Thats why i did this thread xD, i dont find or understand the other one xD thx for the replies, i got HTC WM 6.1 Spanish ROM with the hacked 1.X, so i can safely updated to a 3.x one? Regards!
wolframio74 said:
"Anyway, you could all find these answers in the sticky SPL threads and not make *another* SPL thread."
Thats why i did this thread xD, i dont find or understand the other one xD thx for the replies, i got HTC WM 6.1 Spanish ROM with the hacked 1.X, so i can safely updated to a 3.x one? Regards!
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But you could post this in the SPL sticky. I believe you understood enough to find it, didn't you.
To be constructive: it is recommended that you update to a 3.x SPL with a WM6.1 ROM.
It's as safe as any other flash, meaning that you can brick your device if you don't now what you're doing, but not more.
wolframio74 said:
"Anyway, you could all find these answers in the sticky SPL threads and not make *another* SPL thread."
Thats why i did this thread xD, i dont find or understand the other one xD thx for the replies, i got HTC WM 6.1 Spanish ROM with the hacked 1.X, so i can safely updated to a 3.x one? Regards!
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Not comprehending something in another thread is not an allowable reason to create a new thread!
dani31 said:
But you could post this in the SPL sticky. I believe you understood enough to find it, didn't you.
To be constructive: it is recommended that you update to a 3.x SPL with a WM6.1 ROM.
It's as safe as any other flash, meaning that you can brick your device if you don't now what you're doing, but not more.
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He Sure could have posted in the existing thread to get a clarification. In fact he should.
Thread Closed pursuant to the guidelines set forth in the Kaiser Section Announcement and the Forum Policies.
I've been reading through the forums a bit, and I have flashed a few roms already...(obviously im a noob)...I keep seeing people who say they have SPL: 3.29Hard2. I read through mskip's noob thread for flashing and I used the JumpSPL1.56-KAIS.exe as guided in the thread...
What is the difference between the two?
jbob0124 said:
I've been reading through the forums a bit, and I have flashed a few roms already...(obviously im a noob)...I keep seeing people who say they have SPL: 3.29Hard2. I read through mskip's noob thread for flashing and I used the JumpSPL1.56-KAIS.exe as guided in the thread...
What is the difference between the two?
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Jump SPL helps you to install HardSPL. HardSPL is what you need to flash ROMs other than stock ROMs.
I went into the bootload to check my SPL and when I did, it says SPL-1.0.OliPof
Should I update/upgrade it? Does it make any difference?
Short answer is that generally speaking 3.29 or above works best w/ WM 6.1 and 3.34 or above works best w/ 6.5 ... but as always YMMV.
Hard-SPL for Kaiser is tough thing to unravel, so here's a splendid resource --> Kaiser Hard-SPL Rollup Thread
BTW, there's two versions of 3.29 and 3.56 -- .Hard by jockyw2001 and .Hard2 by cmonex, and to this day I'm not entirely sure why...
vp3G said:
Short answer is that generally speaking 3.29 or above works best w/ WM 6.1 and 3.34 or above works best w/ 6.5 ... but as always YMMV.
Hard-SPL for Kaiser is tough thing to unravel, so here's a splendid resource --> Kaiser Hard-SPL Rollup Thread
BTW, there's two versions of 3.29 and 3.56 -- .Hard by jockyw2001 and .Hard2 by cmonex, and to this day I'm not entirely sure why...
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The answer is in that thread (also see cmonex's old sticky)
Question Answered. Please use the mskip - Flashing for n00bs thread for these questions in the future instead of creating a new one.
Thanks
Dave
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Default Kaiser Rom???
Just got a Kaiser for ATT USA, i have it updated to the WM6.1 from ATT. But I'd really like to use on the cooked ROMs from this site. I've used a lot when I had a T-Mobile Wing.
Here is info on my phone
Rom Ver: 3.57.502.2 WWE
Radio: 1.65.21.18
What ROMs can I use?
NOTE: I'm still using T-Mobile and would like something that will work with the MMS and email...
NEW COMMENTS:
Maybe I should have worded that differently...
What I mean is that I am a new Kaiser owner, I do NOT know how to update the ROM, I took the suggestion at the end of my first post which was to read the Sticky's. I did that I followed different directions. HOWEVER, i can not get the hardSPL to update or install. So that is now my question. If that won't update, I won't be able to update my ROM???
Please do not make new threads when threads exist.
[Resources] Flashing Your First Kaiser Rom (For Noobs)
Follow guide any ?'s ask in the thread.
Closed.
You should put this post in the Kaiser General Question, cos more people will help you out then, i havent had my HTC TyTN II long and i followed the instructions from the stickies and everything worked, i installed hardspl without no problems whatsoever, so i dnt know whats going wrong with yours, normally when the phone starts up it should tell you which hardspl you have in red writing along with Radio version and Rom info, if you tried to install hardspl 3.29 and it worked then it will say that when the phone begins.